@@DillsArtThing Nah it uses diferent frameworks for aplications than regular Desktop linux, and also is based for a diferent CPU's architecture. But uses the same base kernel for the sturcture of the os.
The Linux one does have a front Left and right RCA out as well as one for a subwoofer, It's funny he was pointing at them while saying it didn't have them. ( the Android one does have Rear out on top of that tho ) But one set is enough to hook up multiple amp channels.
yeah i just paused it at the same moment. the Lout and Rout rca would indicate that they are left and right outputs. unless he knows something we dont.
@@mooklaathegreat3662 Maybe the cable has the ports but the unit doesn't have the ability? As in that have a massed produced cable that can also apply to a unit with sub capabilities
@@damavox I guess anything is possible, But they are right on the back of the units, not on a cable, and the ads for the radio's say they have them also. No big deal, tho, people make mistakes. That's why it's Always a good idea to watch multiple video's and do your own research about features and such..
@@mooklaathegreat3662 True that, I was purely speculating, I've seen lots of different products where you have to pay more for added features, yet when you open them up and start looking at them it's all the same hardware, just with or without restrictions on the software side or need a simple connection made. I haven't actually done any research in to it, however if I was making a video about a product and putting it on the Internet I would and I would know more about the product and it's uses than the manufacturer... So why the creator didn't or seems to have not puts be beside myself.
A note on the android head unit. 2:30 You need to plug in the reverse camera cable in the back of the unit, even if you don't use it, because the small floating wires on it are the Bluetooth antenna and 2.4GHz wifi on most units (no matter what the SMA connectors say)
Android is based off linux so this test is basically against the different software and the hardware of 2 different manufacturers. But your features are going to vary wildly depending on what hardware and pcb's are installed in the unit. It can make major differences.
I like to use an android one as a completely standalone unit without using Android auto/carplay - I just have maps, music apps, etc right on it and have it get internet access from my phone which makes a hotspot automatically
android hed uint will get outdated, and after that, there is no option to update to the latest version I prefer the Linux version with Android auto option
It actually does update the android versions when they come out. Simple to hotspet your phone to the head unit and download the firmaware updates. Don't comment on things you don't know for a fact.
@@KhalScott24 He said that the Head Unit will get outdated and that it wont get updates after that. He did not say that you can't update. Every device will not be able to fulfill the rising hardware reqiurements for the updates, after a certain point.
I noticed on their website that the Android unit has subwoofer crossover frequency listed as a feature and the Linux unit does not. I thought you might have talked about that
It would be really cool if you could find a way to sideload native linux applications onto the linux ones. My car's tuning software runs on linux, I'd love to be able to get the 10 inch screen for the linux one and run it off the stereo.
You can put the android ones in recovery mode and root it and tinker with it but the brand name Linux ones like Sony JVC Kenwood Alpine and Pioneer are very locked down
Expected more talk about OS and less about just 2 different models. I assume you can reinstall the Linux unit yourself and put anything you want there. It must have a regular bios or coreboot on it. And it probably can use internet through USB, so if you put a VLC player or Kodi on it, suddenly it gains all the standalone media playing capabilities just like the Android unit.
Generally speaking Linux has full support for USB audio if they present the device to the OS as a generic USB Audio device. That's the simplified version. Weather or not they stripped that out of the head unit is a different story. The Linux kernel, which is the OS that runs the software you see, note Toid is using the name wrong in this video, generally has all of the hardware support desktop linux does unless they stripped it out. All of by USB DACs work out of the box on Linux. No, there is no SQ difference.
@@TheWebstaff like all "smart" tvs ...... linux is based GNU which is based on Unix etc etc ..... according to you, all operating systems in the world are actually UNIX
This video doesn't make a whole lot of sense I'm afraid. You can totally get the Lenox base 1 in a 10-in if you want it or the one that's running Android in the 7-in if you want. Also I guarantee the one on the right can be modified to do a lot of stuff that the one on the left possibly can't be modified to do.
So first of all, Android is basically a Linux distro. Second, the linux head unit also haves left and right channel outputs they are at the bottom right. Third, the android one is more expensive, that’s why it’s screen is better. But as it uses a fake Android 13 (its android 8 with a skin) those 2gb ram it haves are short for it, you can see carplay (and probably android auto) not being that smooth. While linux, being barebones is faster. Fourth, why would be having a sim card on your car be useful? you can just share your phone wifi, if you have the money to pay a internet plan only for your car you probably can get a better quality head unit. The same with having android, if you’re going to use carplay or android auto anyways? thats why no car comes with an android head unit, they all run unix or their own os (usually unix or linux based)
Can these devices mix audio signals? My experience is they can not. My oem Volkswagen unit can mix the navigation sounds of google maps coming from Carplay over the playing DAB radio, CD or USB audio. With most of these headunits you can’t and thats a shame. Most of the time i’m not playing music from my phone.
If you are using any app within the Android Auto or Apple Carplay system it will. I'm not sure aobut using an app outside of that ecosystem. I didn't attempt that.
Some do what you're asking, some don't, I have a cheaper one in my work truck that can't and a more $$ one in my car that will play thru or over other apps with some settings for those things in the menu
Having trouble folding RAM, Storage, and processor specs for the Eonon X3 (Linux). Anyone know what they are? For $100, I'm guessing they're pretty low.
Do you know how high the energy consumption in Standby is for the android car Stereo? I installed mine about 2 weeks ago and have it currently setup to power down after 5min of standby.
Hello, I bought a multimedia with a Linux system, is it possible to switch to Android? If the answer is yes, how can I do this? Sorry if it wasn't clear, I'm using Google Translate to write this question. Greetings from Brazil!
So the I/O and buttons etc... are more down to models of device, not the user interface and performance between your Linux & Android Linux head units. A true comparison would require a like for like unit on a spec level. Compairing Apples and Pairs before you even start talking about the OS differences at 4mins in
I have Allwinner head unit from aliexpress for 70$ lol, for that price it lags a little and is slower, but works very well.. only pain in the ass is that google play flags one system app as malware, and it cant be uninstalled.. and also pretty much pain is finding right home launcher that i would like,, took me about month and half to find something but it is still questionable if i really like it that much, but im happy with the unit anyway, way better then having old cd player.. but i also have to buy amplifier for antenna because the fm is unusable right now, and im gonna probably add DVR camera to the unit too soon
It has 5 RCA preouts. One for a subwoofer, 2 for rear and 2 for fronts. I mentioned that in the video , If you are looking more,t han this would not be the radio for you.
@@Clobercow1of course you do if you are any kind of audiophile. Why would surround sound be “needed” in one area over the other. Is your living room more important than your car? A majority of people spend more time listening to music in their vehicle than anywhere else. Not to mention one of the best places to watch a movie is in a vehicle with a good stereo system (parked of course).
@@ToidRCA outs are only as good as their volt capacity. It's the most important spec and I don't remember you ever discussing it. Under 4 volts and they're pretty much useless in my ideal application. I would suggest purchasing the equipment to test this going forward if you want to appeal to the more SQ-minded viewers. It would be a great service to them and a good move on your part
every android radio i have used was a clunky hunk of junk but i haven't ever used a very expensive one, but the normal non android ones of the same price are much better 🤷♂️
I'm still using my Eonon Android unit from 2017 but it's pretty much unusable at this point. I mentioned this on your last Eonon video and Eonon actually commented and told me I need to use less apps. I literally only have Waze installed and that's it. For me, the Android Auto app never worked wired or wireless on my galaxy S9 or my Galaxy S21. Basically the only way I can use it is by connecting to my hotspot which does not automatically connect so every time I start the car I have to open the wifi settings and connect to my phone. Then I open waze and cross my fingers in hope that it doesn't crash on open. (Google maps is the same. Then i wait a painfully long time for it to let me open the keyboard and inout an address and start navigation. Then I can use it for about 30 minutes before in inevitable crashes not only the app but the whole unit AMD it takes about 5 minutes to reboot. The Bluetooth does automatically connect but if you just start playing something from your phone it doesn't play. You have to actually open the Bluetooth app on the head unit and press play for it to start playing through the car speakers. It also hijacks the connection sometimes when im already listening with my headphones byt doesnt start playback in the car, my podcast just keeps playing with no audio anywhere which is super annoying because I have to rewind once i fix it. There are a lot of annoying UX bugs like that. The Bluetooth is also very flakey and only connects maybe 60% of the time. I have been thinking about upgrading but I'm not sure if I wanna take a second gamble on Eonon. I hope they have fixed a lot of the annoying UX bugs but that unit cost me a decent amount of money and time to install and watching it plummeting into obsolescence over the last 7 years has kind of put me off it so I'm still undecided
That really stinks. I don’t use mine in the same manner that you do. I mainly use mine for android auto and Apple CarPlay, which is why mine last longer. I think in general android units when you use them like an android phone struggle over time. After reviewing quite a few, the one thing that I can say for sure about the Eonon is it lasts. it doesn’t burn up on itself. You have no idea how many I’ve tried to review that it blown up on the test bench. It’s one of the reasons why they are the only one I currently recommend. But I’m sure there are other good ones out there.
@@Toid I would love to only use mine for Android Auto but that never actually worked as it was advertised. It was never able to connect to my phone. Whether you use it like that or you use apps on it, it shouldn't crash when you just have a single maps app installed and running.
In today's marketplace, just the fact that it's lasted 7 years for you is pretty good by its self, feature wise 3 to 4 years is the most you can hope for. Have you tried multiple usb cables for your android auto? Most of the time I have had connection issues, it turned out to be the cable. Even if the cable worked for everything else. Many are just made cheap, I'd try a good name brand one if I was you, it may just work.
The most important metric, for me at least, is the time it takes from me turning the key of my car to it connecting to my phone and play my music, hence why Linux OS wins.
do you have the x3? I'm interested in buying one as I have the ua13 Android version. can you please measure the time it takes to connect to your phone?
You are using a Generic title such as linux head unit and say it doesn't have blah blah hardware which is a limitation of the model itself rather than Linux. If you are comparing based on an operating system level, you should show pros and cons of the operating system rather than tagging the hardware ports as a difference which itself may vary model to model.
There was a lot of confusion on that. The stand alone phone app was discontinued. Which really should have. But Android Auto is still very much a thing for Car Stereos.
Android : Has Google downloading and scraping data off the head-unit to grab your data. Linux: Doesn't. (so long as you dont connect your phone, which i hope wouldnt be required)
I actually said that in the review and even linked it in the description. which is nice because now if you want the bigger screen and you like the Linux, you can get that. I appreciate them doing that.
i upgraded head unit for one reason - just to play from Bluetooth I bought a Sony DSX-B710D I opted out from the smart one since all modern electronics phones, navigation, and cars heavily depend on software updates i don't believe manufacturers will support their products in the long run. So now I'm navigating with my phone 😋
Lol, I used to feel the same way, but a few years ago when i got a new used car, I was getting ready to upgrade the sound system in it and My daughter talked me into getting a touch screen one, Once I had it ( it was one with DSP, eq, Time alignment and such. ) I liked it so much, I would never go back to not having one. Just for the audio features alone. Being able to hook up an external usb drive to save your song collection and having the screen to search thru them and use the EQ on alone is worth it to me now.
On my channel you can find a reviews of an Android screen that I have installed in my Mercedes GL500 x166 I was also able to ROOT it using Wifi using a script that I ran from my Windows 11 PC. I also debloated my head unit using ADB App Control from Windows. Android uses Linux kernel.
Hm. Linux based player? Isnt that the same as most chinese MP5 players? I would prefer to not link my phone to the player as Android Auto / CarPlay like these Linux machines. Sure, Android based player is kinda slow. No matter. Just dont install more apps inside. It will run fast as the Linux ones. What apps do I really need? Just Waze and RUclips Music.
there is so many things worng first of all android is only a distribution of Linux that means it´s almost the same, android/linux are OS but you compare the phsycal units what dosn´t make sense..... when you what a real comparesing you have to compare two off the same units both with android and linux
They both have android auto dose that not say anything dude ones just heavily stripped down for the fact it has like 1 or 2gb of ram most headunits over 3gb have native android with the playstore youre info is mainly rubbish 🗑 🙄
@@uss-dh7909 wdym broken into? i think its windows ce and it doesnt have any internet connectivity. ain't no way that anyone is breaking into my headunit
Linux headunits are far superior over Android based headunits and yes there are much larger Linux based headunits with bigger display screens, I know this because I put one in my BMW. Android headunits are resource hogs, and slow down over time with all of the added apps and customization. Android audio works great on linux based head units and yes you can use apps though Android audio on linux based headunits.
Mine has been solid and they even implemented some of my suggestions into a firmware update. With pioneer I tried to report a bug and it was impossible...
Android runs on a modified version of the Linux kernel. However, Android is not GNU/Linux, which is the operating system from the GNU project. Android is based on its own project, the Android Open Source Project (AOSP).
Just one pernickity point from someone who has been using Linux for 30+ years...Android *is* a version of Linux. According to Linus Torvalds (The person who invented and wrote *Linux*) what makes something Linux is using the Linux kernel. Android, and ChromeOS as well both use a Linux kernel, and thus are versions of Linux. The only real difference is the stuff they put on top of the kernel, but basically Android is much like Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc. The biggest difference really is the User Design/User Experience. Desktop Linux is a very different beast from an embedded system like a car head unit. Android does that type of job very well. The Linux head unit is OK, but it could also be running a Web Server, edit video and log all of the wireless access sites that you drive by, or run a wireless access point! But 98% of the people don't care about those things, they just want a simple to use head unit, and that is where Android shines. I'm one of those weird 2% members where running a webserver on my head unit would be fun, as well as playing native DOOM...🙂 [insert standard disclaimer about GNU/Linux]
@@DoeBoy999 He's right. Bitching about someone who actually knows something compared to a reviewer is really stupid. Toid misnaming this as "Linux" presents a problem with product classification. Both head units are Linux based. Comparing a Ram Truck to a "generic truck" is ignorant and spreads misinformation. That "Linux" head unit is not representative of Linux. So calling it the all encompassing name "Linux" is wrong and ignorant.
Ok. Let's talk about the names you're using because it's important. Android is an OS that runs on Linux. The OS that you're calling "Linux" on that head unit is not "Linux". It's some UI built on top of Linux like Android is. That's like comparing your Ford to a generic Truck. Or a Subwoofer to a Speaker. It's nonsensical. So let's stop calling it "Linux". It's not. It's just the software that runs the hardware. Everything you're doing with it is the brand, not "Linux". It's the GUI and tools on top of Linux like Android. How do I know? I'm literally an engineer that works on Linux.
@@callmebigpapa No. I'm good. Linux is fine. BSD is just contrarian Linux with a lack of drivers and support compared to Linux. No one actually cares about the underlying OS. What are people going to do, ssh to their head unit? No. Just use Linux and have driver support. If you hate the init system your car uses so much, I'll argue you're missing the point.
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So... a Linux headunit vs a Linux headunit?
Kinda. Android uses the Linux kernel but alot of the OS is its own.
@@zapa47 isn't that also the case with most desktop linux distros?
@@DillsArtThing Desktop Linux is actually GNU/Linux. You could call it Android LInux but its not the same OS as GNU/Linux
@@DillsArtThing Nah it uses diferent frameworks for aplications than regular Desktop linux, and also is based for a diferent CPU's architecture. But uses the same base kernel for the sturcture of the os.
@@luiscarlosgm123 so... both types of OS's use the linux kernel but a lot of each OS is their own thing?
The Linux one does have a front Left and right RCA out as well as one for a subwoofer, It's funny he was pointing at them while saying it didn't have them. ( the Android one does have Rear out on top of that tho ) But one set is enough to hook up multiple amp channels.
yeah i just paused it at the same moment. the Lout and Rout rca would indicate that they are left and right outputs. unless he knows something we dont.
I wasn't even actively watching the video when I heard this and it triggered my WTF-detector. I mean: why would a radio not have outputs for speakers?
@@mooklaathegreat3662
Maybe the cable has the ports but the unit doesn't have the ability?
As in that have a massed produced cable that can also apply to a unit with sub capabilities
@@damavox I guess anything is possible, But they are right on the back of the units, not on a cable, and the ads for the radio's say they have them also. No big deal, tho, people make mistakes. That's why it's Always a good idea to watch multiple video's and do your own research about features and such..
@@mooklaathegreat3662
True that, I was purely speculating, I've seen lots of different products where you have to pay more for added features, yet when you open them up and start looking at them it's all the same hardware, just with or without restrictions on the software side or need a simple connection made. I haven't actually done any research in to it, however if I was making a video about a product and putting it on the Internet I would and I would know more about the product and it's uses than the manufacturer... So why the creator didn't or seems to have not puts be beside myself.
You can get the Linux one in the big screen too, x30 plus
A note on the android head unit. 2:30 You need to plug in the reverse camera cable in the back of the unit, even if you don't use it, because the small floating wires on it are the Bluetooth antenna and 2.4GHz wifi on most units (no matter what the SMA connectors say)
Android is based off linux so this test is basically against the different software and the hardware of 2 different manufacturers. But your features are going to vary wildly depending on what hardware and pcb's are installed in the unit. It can make major differences.
Yeah and probably you can install Linux on android one and the second way too!
That's like comparing SuSe with MacOS on the grounds they're both Unix derivatives
I like to use an android one as a completely standalone unit without using Android auto/carplay - I just have maps, music apps, etc right on it and have it get internet access from my phone which makes a hotspot automatically
And you can sign in to RUclips in it?
@@youragronk6208 yep
android hed uint will get outdated, and after that, there is no option to update to the latest version I prefer the Linux version with Android auto option
It actually does update the android versions when they come out. Simple to hotspet your phone to the head unit and download the firmaware updates. Don't comment on things you don't know for a fact.
@@KhalScott24 He said that the Head Unit will get outdated and that it wont get updates after that. He did not say that you can't update. Every device will not be able to fulfill the rising hardware reqiurements for the updates, after a certain point.
i have the linux one. but there some issue on
-the DSP. it keeps auto off.
- pannel dimmer. it will set back to default after some time.
I noticed on their website that the Android unit has subwoofer crossover frequency listed as a feature and the Linux unit does not. I thought you might have talked about that
It would be really cool if you could find a way to sideload native linux applications onto the linux ones. My car's tuning software runs on linux, I'd love to be able to get the 10 inch screen for the linux one and run it off the stereo.
I'm sure it's possible. I don't see why it wouldn't be.
fake android 13 they all run 8.1 /8.1go/and 9.1
Not true, some actually do I have android 10+ on them.
However I do know what you are speaking of and there is alot that are like you said.
@@damavox If there is they must be like BigFoot. or there 2 grand
they actually run android 6.
I need to understand why do they need to run a fake Android when it's open source and free for companies?
@@wtalkieit takes work to port all their customisations to new software, and to work with existing hardware probably
Is that really Linux or Windows CE?
do these head units have custom OSes or have a usable package manager like apt (debian) rpm (centos/rhel) or have custom recovery (android) ?
You can put the android ones in recovery mode and root it and tinker with it but the brand name Linux ones like Sony JVC Kenwood Alpine and Pioneer are very locked down
What about about the boot time?
My trunk opens plenty fast.
what about waiting startup times? when the unit is not hardwired and powered on all the time? and need to power on on every engine statup?
Expected more talk about OS and less about just 2 different models.
I assume you can reinstall the Linux unit yourself and put anything you want there. It must have a regular bios or coreboot on it. And it probably can use internet through USB, so if you put a VLC player or Kodi on it, suddenly it gains all the standalone media playing capabilities just like the Android unit.
Curious whether the linux system supports output to USB audio devices like an external DAC.
That’s an interesting question. I didn’t try that.
Generally speaking Linux has full support for USB audio if they present the device to the OS as a generic USB Audio device. That's the simplified version. Weather or not they stripped that out of the head unit is a different story. The Linux kernel, which is the OS that runs the software you see, note Toid is using the name wrong in this video, generally has all of the hardware support desktop linux does unless they stripped it out. All of by USB DACs work out of the box on Linux. No, there is no SQ difference.
Why didn't you make a comparison between the 7inch UA13 and 7inch X3? They both look the same.
Android IS Linux.
Android using linux kernel but its not linux ……
@@aaveisenandroid uses the Linux kernel.
Thus is Linux!
@@TheWebstaff like all "smart" tvs ...... linux is based GNU which is based on Unix etc etc ..... according to you, all operating systems in the world are actually UNIX
@@aaveisen Linux is the kernel, GNU is the user space. Together they *might* be an OS
I guess he didn’t do his homework before saying that😂😂😂😂😂
so smaller one "Linux" actually does have RCA Left and Right out. They are on the bottom right of the back.
This video doesn't make a whole lot of sense I'm afraid. You can totally get the Lenox base 1 in a 10-in if you want it or the one that's running Android in the 7-in if you want. Also I guarantee the one on the right can be modified to do a lot of stuff that the one on the left possibly can't be modified to do.
Anyone know how to get shell/tty/root access on either of these?
So first of all, Android is basically a Linux distro.
Second, the linux head unit also haves left and right channel outputs they are at the bottom right.
Third, the android one is more expensive, that’s why it’s screen is better. But as it uses a fake Android 13 (its android 8 with a skin) those 2gb ram it haves are short for it, you can see carplay (and probably android auto) not being that smooth. While linux, being barebones is faster.
Fourth, why would be having a sim card on your car be useful? you can just share your phone wifi, if you have the money to pay a internet plan only for your car you probably can get a better quality head unit. The same with having android, if you’re going to use carplay or android auto anyways? thats why no car comes with an android head unit, they all run unix or their own os (usually unix or linux based)
Can these devices mix audio signals? My experience is they can not. My oem Volkswagen unit can mix the navigation sounds of google maps coming from Carplay over the playing DAB radio, CD or USB audio. With most of these headunits you can’t and thats a shame. Most of the time i’m not playing music from my phone.
If you are using any app within the Android Auto or Apple Carplay system it will. I'm not sure aobut using an app outside of that ecosystem. I didn't attempt that.
Some do what you're asking, some don't, I have a cheaper one in my work truck that can't and a more $$ one in my car that will play thru or over other apps with some settings for those things in the menu
how to set dark t
mode to android? how to enable developer options?
what resolution does the HDMI output? And does it duplicate the GUI?
Having trouble folding RAM, Storage, and processor specs for the Eonon X3 (Linux). Anyone know what they are? For $100, I'm guessing they're pretty low.
Linux "distro" vs another linux "distro"?! I'm in! :-D
Do you know how high the energy consumption in Standby is for the android car Stereo?
I installed mine about 2 weeks ago and have it currently setup to power down after 5min of standby.
Wow, cool...
But where to put my mixtape?
Hello, I bought a multimedia with a Linux system, is it possible to switch to Android? If the answer is yes, how can I do this? Sorry if it wasn't clear, I'm using Google Translate to write this question. Greetings from Brazil!
It's a really good head unit my only issue is that dust enters behind the glass
Which one?
@@youragronk6208 the android one
So the I/O and buttons etc... are more down to models of device, not the user interface and performance between your Linux & Android Linux head units. A true comparison would require a like for like unit on a spec level. Compairing Apples and Pairs before you even start talking about the OS differences at 4mins in
The Linux one does have RCA out. Look closer
Why would you use android auto on the android powered head unit when it has its own GPS module and full fat Google Maps?
Whats better, water or H2O
I hate Android head units.
Just give me a clean Linux headunit with Radio, Android Auto and Carplay.
5 channel amp only needs 1 set or 4 channel and mono
I have Allwinner head unit from aliexpress for 70$ lol, for that price it lags a little and is slower, but works very well.. only pain in the ass is that google play flags one system app as malware, and it cant be uninstalled.. and also pretty much pain is finding right home launcher that i would like,, took me about month and half to find something but it is still questionable if i really like it that much, but im happy with the unit anyway, way better then having old cd player.. but i also have to buy amplifier for antenna because the fm is unusable right now, and im gonna probably add DVR camera to the unit too soon
if here no root access to terminal, there nothing to see
Over time linux based headunit or a windows CE is better since andriod tend to slow overtime
He neglected to say the android is only a 2ch rca output....
Why does that matter? Do you need 5.1 in your car? Stereo is two channels.
It has 5 RCA preouts. One for a subwoofer, 2 for rear and 2 for fronts. I mentioned that in the video , If you are looking more,t han this would not be the radio for you.
@@Clobercow1of course you do if you are any kind of audiophile. Why would surround sound be “needed” in one area over the other. Is your living room more important than your car? A majority of people spend more time listening to music in their vehicle than anywhere else. Not to mention one of the best places to watch a movie is in a vehicle with a good stereo system (parked of course).
@@ToidRCA outs are only as good as their volt capacity. It's the most important spec and I don't remember you ever discussing it. Under 4 volts and they're pretty much useless in my ideal application.
I would suggest purchasing the equipment to test this going forward if you want to appeal to the more SQ-minded viewers. It would be a great service to them and a good move on your part
Oh yes, I really need netflix in my car. Driving has been so boring since they made illegal to have a beer or two while driving
every android radio i have used was a clunky hunk of junk but i haven't ever used a very expensive one, but the normal non android ones of the same price are much better 🤷♂️
I'm still using my Eonon Android unit from 2017 but it's pretty much unusable at this point. I mentioned this on your last Eonon video and Eonon actually commented and told me I need to use less apps. I literally only have Waze installed and that's it.
For me, the Android Auto app never worked wired or wireless on my galaxy S9 or my Galaxy S21.
Basically the only way I can use it is by connecting to my hotspot which does not automatically connect so every time I start the car I have to open the wifi settings and connect to my phone. Then I open waze and cross my fingers in hope that it doesn't crash on open. (Google maps is the same. Then i wait a painfully long time for it to let me open the keyboard and inout an address and start navigation. Then I can use it for about 30 minutes before in inevitable crashes not only the app but the whole unit AMD it takes about 5 minutes to reboot.
The Bluetooth does automatically connect but if you just start playing something from your phone it doesn't play. You have to actually open the Bluetooth app on the head unit and press play for it to start playing through the car speakers. It also hijacks the connection sometimes when im already listening with my headphones byt doesnt start playback in the car, my podcast just keeps playing with no audio anywhere which is super annoying because I have to rewind once i fix it. There are a lot of annoying UX bugs like that. The Bluetooth is also very flakey and only connects maybe 60% of the time.
I have been thinking about upgrading but I'm not sure if I wanna take a second gamble on Eonon. I hope they have fixed a lot of the annoying UX bugs but that unit cost me a decent amount of money and time to install and watching it plummeting into obsolescence over the last 7 years has kind of put me off it so I'm still undecided
That really stinks. I don’t use mine in the same manner that you do. I mainly use mine for android auto and Apple CarPlay, which is why mine last longer. I think in general android units when you use them like an android phone struggle over time. After reviewing quite a few, the one thing that I can say for sure about the Eonon is it lasts. it doesn’t burn up on itself. You have no idea how many I’ve tried to review that it blown up on the test bench. It’s one of the reasons why they are the only one I currently recommend. But I’m sure there are other good ones out there.
@@Toid I would love to only use mine for Android Auto but that never actually worked as it was advertised. It was never able to connect to my phone. Whether you use it like that or you use apps on it, it shouldn't crash when you just have a single maps app installed and running.
In today's marketplace, just the fact that it's lasted 7 years for you is pretty good by its self, feature wise 3 to 4 years is the most you can hope for. Have you tried multiple usb cables for your android auto? Most of the time I have had connection issues, it turned out to be the cable. Even if the cable worked for everything else. Many are just made cheap, I'd try a good name brand one if I was you, it may just work.
But yeah just like taking an iPhone 5 and comparing it to an iPhone 10 I mean you got to at least get the same sizes lol
Isn't Andoid a Linux
The most important metric, for me at least, is the time it takes from me turning the key of my car to it connecting to my phone and play my music, hence why Linux OS wins.
do you have the x3? I'm interested in buying one as I have the ua13 Android version. can you please measure the time it takes to connect to your phone?
Only drawback I see is they don't have connection for Sirius Radio and cameras
“I’ve never seen a Linux headunit get an update”
Oh god….
You are using a Generic title such as linux head unit and say it doesn't have blah blah hardware which is a limitation of the model itself rather than Linux.
If you are comparing based on an operating system level, you should show pros and cons of the operating system rather than tagging the hardware ports as a difference which itself may vary model to model.
Thanks for your sharing~
I thought Android Auto was being sunset ??
There was a lot of confusion on that. The stand alone phone app was discontinued. Which really should have. But Android Auto is still very much a thing for Car Stereos.
Android : Has Google downloading and scraping data off the head-unit to grab your data.
Linux: Doesn't. (so long as you dont connect your phone, which i hope wouldnt be required)
Linux with 120hz screen would be a good update
They have a Linux one in 10.1 too, had nothing to do with the software...
I actually said that in the review and even linked it in the description. which is nice because now if you want the bigger screen and you like the Linux, you can get that. I appreciate them doing that.
i upgraded head unit for one reason - just to play from Bluetooth
I bought a Sony DSX-B710D
I opted out from the smart one since all modern electronics phones, navigation, and cars heavily depend on software updates i don't believe manufacturers will support their products in the long run. So now I'm navigating with my phone 😋
Definitely a great way to go if you’re only interested in Bluetooth
Lol, I used to feel the same way, but a few years ago when i got a new used car, I was getting ready to upgrade the sound system in it and My daughter talked me into getting a touch screen one, Once I had it ( it was one with DSP, eq, Time alignment and such. ) I liked it so much, I would never go back to not having one. Just for the audio features alone. Being able to hook up an external usb drive to save your song collection and having the screen to search thru them and use the EQ on alone is worth it to me now.
Ya if you are just going to use car play it doesn't matter but i like android
On my channel you can find a reviews of an Android screen that I have installed in my Mercedes GL500 x166
I was also able to ROOT it using Wifi using a script that I ran from my Windows 11 PC. I also debloated my head unit using ADB App Control from Windows.
Android uses Linux kernel.
The Linux has low level outputs to connect an amplifier !!
Android is an App running on top of modified linux kernel.
@@atmegaatmega Android is an operating system running on a Linux kernel.
Hm. Linux based player? Isnt that the same as most chinese MP5 players? I would prefer to not link my phone to the player as Android Auto / CarPlay like these Linux machines. Sure, Android based player is kinda slow. No matter. Just dont install more apps inside. It will run fast as the Linux ones.
What apps do I really need? Just Waze and RUclips Music.
there is so many things worng first of all android is only a distribution of Linux that means it´s almost the same, android/linux are OS but you compare the phsycal units what dosn´t make sense..... when you what a real comparesing you have to compare two off the same units both with android and linux
android hea units are so fake dont uses 13 or 12 or 11 9.1 or 10 uses
They both have android auto dose that not say anything dude ones just heavily stripped down for the fact it has like 1 or 2gb of ram most headunits over 3gb have native android with the playstore youre info is mainly rubbish 🗑 🙄
my headunit is running windows🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I hope your windows don't get broken into or worse....
.... force upgraded! Dun dun dunnn.
@@uss-dh7909 wdym broken into? i think its windows ce and it doesnt have any internet connectivity. ain't no way that anyone is breaking into my headunit
Linux headunits are far superior over Android based headunits and yes there are much larger Linux based headunits with bigger display screens, I know this because I put one in my BMW. Android headunits are resource hogs, and slow down over time with all of the added apps and customization.
Android audio works great on linux based head units and yes you can use apps though Android audio on linux based headunits.
I will take linux Headunit and customize the heck out of it. because its linux
2 different hardware running 2 different software configuration, both linux.
The Linux system is the better ons
ive been through like 3 eonon head units, They are hot trash. Im not sure how everyone has flawlessly working ones
Mine has been solid and they even implemented some of my suggestions into a firmware update.
With pioneer I tried to report a bug and it was impossible...
I don't have a headunit at all but I've seen Atoto being a good brand
But Android * *_IS_** a Linux Based.
Android runs on a modified version of the Linux kernel. However, Android is not GNU/Linux, which is the operating system from the GNU project. Android is based on its own project, the Android Open Source Project (AOSP).
Just one pernickity point from someone who has been using Linux for 30+ years...Android *is* a version of Linux. According to Linus Torvalds (The person who invented and wrote *Linux*) what makes something Linux is using the Linux kernel. Android, and ChromeOS as well both use a Linux kernel, and thus are versions of Linux. The only real difference is the stuff they put on top of the kernel, but basically Android is much like Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc. The biggest difference really is the User Design/User Experience. Desktop Linux is a very different beast from an embedded system like a car head unit. Android does that type of job very well. The Linux head unit is OK, but it could also be running a Web Server, edit video and log all of the wireless access sites that you drive by, or run a wireless access point! But 98% of the people don't care about those things, they just want a simple to use head unit, and that is where Android shines. I'm one of those weird 2% members where running a webserver on my head unit would be fun, as well as playing native DOOM...🙂
[insert standard disclaimer about GNU/Linux]
Didn't take long for the Ackshually guy to show up.
@@DoeBoy999 When you have done important things in your life, you will become one too!
@@DoeBoy999 He's right. Bitching about someone who actually knows something compared to a reviewer is really stupid.
Toid misnaming this as "Linux" presents a problem with product classification. Both head units are Linux based. Comparing a Ram Truck to a "generic truck" is ignorant and spreads misinformation. That "Linux" head unit is not representative of Linux. So calling it the all encompassing name "Linux" is wrong and ignorant.
@@Clobercow1the modern consumer is wrong and ignorant. The manufacturer refers to them the same way to differentiate to the general public.
Linux head unit was downplayed a lot. Do a proper review on it.
Linux vs Linux with bit modify
Android is a platform based on Linux!!!
Just get a pioneer head unit
Android is Linux
Dont buy either. Junk. Buy a brand that is actually a brand and preferably a proven track record as well as customer support.
Like Pioneer??? LOL they have no support at all and they don't fix bugs....
@@BassManStrikesSony maybe?
Kenwood is very good, Use too be a Major Brand also Sharp and Panasonic are also good
@@BassManStrikes "a proven track record as well as customer support"
Read.
If sim isn't LTE then its useless
Android use SeLinux
Linux is better for me
android is linux!
android is a linux btw
Neither! buy a reputable brand
Android you can use it for ads ads ads ads ads ads ads
Android is basically linux ...
LOL they are both "linux"
Ok. Let's talk about the names you're using because it's important.
Android is an OS that runs on Linux. The OS that you're calling "Linux" on that head unit is not "Linux". It's some UI built on top of Linux like Android is. That's like comparing your Ford to a generic Truck. Or a Subwoofer to a Speaker. It's nonsensical.
So let's stop calling it "Linux". It's not. It's just the software that runs the hardware. Everything you're doing with it is the brand, not "Linux". It's the GUI and tools on top of Linux like Android.
How do I know? I'm literally an engineer that works on Linux.
They are the same shit 💀
Android is Linux. The topic is irrelevant.
Linux is a kernel not an OP.
Android has another kernel and is an OP.
Both of them are crap
Both Android OP and Linux OP is based on an Linux kernel.
So you’re wrong
Yeah I agree thats why we need a BSD based car stereo.
@@Ulven3829 Android use another Kernel 😂
@@callmebigpapa No. I'm good. Linux is fine. BSD is just contrarian Linux with a lack of drivers and support compared to Linux. No one actually cares about the underlying OS. What are people going to do, ssh to their head unit? No. Just use Linux and have driver support. If you hate the init system your car uses so much, I'll argue you're missing the point.
@@villageroma Android uses GNU Linux, but they have their own fork. It's still Linux. People on here know nothing about anything it seems.