Alternative to Russian Join aka Needle Join aka Cheater's Braided Join
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- *2024, Note: Awhile back, I replied to a comment regarding my "stick the needle in your mouth" joke. It is indeed a joke because that's such a stupid thing to do which is why I thought it was funny. Anyway, it looks like youtube requires me to input a phone number to be able to pin comments, and I'm not doing that, so if it is not pinned, just look for the comment from carld9021, and you can see the conversation in the replies. To sum up: I appreciate the safety tips that have come through in the comments. Safety first, and while I did stick the needle between my lips...sorta tucked into my cheek, like you would a toothpick...I was indeed joking about that being an actual step in the process.*
I call this "The Alternative to Russian Join" because it is made using the same technique as a Russian Join, but threading the yarn tail through the tail it is joining rather than through itself. I discovered it on Ravelry where this person calls it the "Needle Join" and refers to it as a "Cheater's Braided Join". I have no basis to compare it to the Braided Join, but I prefer it to the Russian Join because I find it faster to make, a bit stronger, and slightly thinner.
Here is the link to where I discovered this technique on Ravelry, if you are on Ravelry and are a "Picutres Tutorial" type of person: www.ravelry.com...
Two things: the method she describes is slightly different than what i do here (she has you going up and down, over and under the plies, whereas I just drive it through the core), and she also suggests that this technique won't work for slippery yarns like silk rayon/viscose. I have used this technique to my great pleasure with many types of yarns (but certainly not every type): acrylic (Red Heart types and Simply Soft types and more), merino, cashmere, cotton, mohair, silk blends, and other various blends.
Your Mileage May Vary
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Wow, this join is so strong. Tried it for the first time just now and I'm so happy with it. No more little bump from a magic knot. Thank you so much for explaining it so well x
Wow! My crochet life is forever changed! Thanks a bunch!
Glad to have seen this. So much has changed and/or been added to the world of crochet and I'm just now learning this since I've been away from the art for many years. Thanks
This is how I was taught to join in 70s home economics class in jr high. You don’t even have to do the second step with the needle, just tug lightly from each direction until the tails are hidden.
Interesting! I tried the way you describe here, and I found little like .5cm tails sticking out--perhaps I needed to drive the yarn tail farther along through the other tail though. Thanks for sharing, your way is even quicker!
Never never put a needle in your mouth. Madam Sew does a safety bedroom on a woman who ended up with a needle in her lung because she got startled by something and took an unexpected breath in. Other than that, wonderful video. Thanks!
I suspect she was kidding us about putting the needle in her mouth.
@@voyager9028 not when she commented that it was hard to talk with it in her mouth.
Voyager got it right. It was a joke. Dry delivery. How I like it :)
The point is well noted, however, and I appreciate the feedback that has come through abt it. I have since stopped putting any kind of needle (from hand sewing to yarn darning) in between my lips for temporary storage, so to speak. Not completely. There are occasions when I do it, though they are much more rare and much shorter in duration, and always with a pause beforehand to check myself and surroundings before I get a needle down the gullet.
No amount of convenience is worth that pain and potential death.
I'm definitely going to try this the next time I need to join!
Never heard of this method but I think I will like it. Thank you!
This is awesome! I just watched your video and used it on a cloche hat I'm making. It's invisible, and no ends to deal with. Brilliant!
I am new to the world of crochet so I do find this very useful indeed. Thank you for this tutorial.
I’ve always used the Russian Join but I really like the use of the alternative Needle Join and will give this a go on my next knitting project. Thank you!
I was on the hunt for a specific russian join video off of tiktok and found this after three other wrong turns LOL
I think the one I was looking for was a braided join (untwisting yarn then twisting together) but this seems way more secure and easier on my poor grip. Thank you!!!
Just letting you know that I found this very useful; thanks so much for sharing!
Looks good to me, if it holds together thru washings and doesn't have lumpy knots it has done it's job. Thank you!!
leleslie45 Am almost positive it'll hold through washings - if you have worked enough stitches of your pattern "over" the joining part.
Turnbulls comments aside, this was extremely useful. It is narrower than the 'traditional' Russian join and at least as strong. Thank you for showing this. Very helpful.
This is terrific. No more bump of a knot!
Thank you for showing this, I've tried several ways of joining yarn & this is now my go to for knitting & crocheting
This is awesome! Thank you so much for sharing your method. I just used it and tried as hard as I could to pull it apart and it didn't budge. This is my new favorite way to join yarn!!
So glad you like it! It's my favorite way too! Sometimes it doesn't pass the "as hard as I can" test and needs a second doing. Nothing's perfect! But it's certainly effective :)
Also, I can't take any credit for inventing the method. Found a terriffic pictoral tutorial on Ravelry, and I decided to make a video of how I do it.
I'm knitting the Pure Joy shawl by Joni Locatelli and just used your technique and it worked AMAZING!!!!! Perfect join that blends beautifully.. thank you so much for sharing.
Hi, I am Rose, new subscriber, and I appreciate your patience ❤️ on showing how to do this join. Thank You 🤗
I can’t even tell the difference! Very nice, thank you.
This may be the greatest thing I’ve ever watched.
Thank you so much! I have tried several other joins with my merino lace yarn, this one is the best!
I was terrified of the Russian join but I did the work right along with you and it was a breeze!!! I am ready to do it again!!
That looks very sturdy. I have tried a couple different joins with different results. Thanks for the demonstration.
It is a very good idea. Thinner than the Russian Join
Thank you for this tutorial! I started a blanket about a year and a half ago when I was newer to crochet, and I've come back to it recently to see about 3-4 inch long tails- not nearly long enough to weave in for my taste. I believe I may be able to save some of the shorter tails with this join to add on some extra length to weave in for extra security, maybe. It's at least worth a try.
I hope this reply finds you in time, although I'm sure you've figured out a solution by now! When I was brand new to crochet, to deal with the ends I would weave one way, then the other way back through the tail itself (sounds like you probably are already familiar with that), and then, before snipping, I'd add just a dab of fabric glue to the end, squeeze it, let it dry for several minutes (while working with other tails), and go back to snip.
I tell you what, that blanket hasn't come apart, but with thorough end weaving (especially if you can weave it back through itself), I don't find the glue to be necessary anymore. All a part of the learning experience!
Cheers!
p.s. while tedious, you could use needle and thread to secure the ends as well.
Thank you so much for sharing this - it is brilliant! I'm a big fan of the Russian join, but that's not easy to do when you are attaching from a working project - this one is very handy!
@Bobbi Bernardini - I agree wholeheartedly!
Can not remember the name but I have used this join for many years, I love it thanks for reminding me about it.
I think I'll have to try it. It looks like a great alternative when using small balls instead of tucking all the ends.
Beautiful work in your lap! Cool technique! Thank you for sharing!
Great video! Just did it and it worked for me the first Time ty!!
Beautiful job on the joining the two together thanks?🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
This IS very useful .... Thank you so much for sharing this with us!!!
Thank you for this video! Very easy to follow and quick, straight to the point.
Love this method! Thank you for sharing.
I appreciate this! If I could suggest shifting the angle of the camera so we can see your fingers the entire time though?
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What a great technique! Thank you so much!! Superb!!
Genius! I'm trying both this and the knotless Russian join to see which works best on single ply yarn, I have hopes.
what did you find?
Awesome Jenny..thanks very much. Enjoyed your video. Very informative and thorough.
This is the best join ever!!!!
This is excellent! Thank you!
omg wow, thank you.. I feel so enept at 53 just learning this.. better late than never..
Mistress Dreama ha ha, I'm also 53 and learning this now.
53 and just learned it too!!
54 here & just learned how to do this 😁
I just learned it and I’m 73. Better than the Russian Join IMHO.
Conroecurio - Absolutely! I started in my 60's
I like them and will use them. Thank you.
Thank you! Your tutorial has been really helpful to me and my blanket! Will definitely use this technique from now on 🌺
♡♡That was great, the Russian joint is to thick, witch disturbed me often. Thank u so mutch! ♡♡
Thank you for showing ♥
Thanks so much! Awesome join, it will help a lot.
Oh wow game changer thank you
Cheatingly usefull, thank you so much!
I like this so much better. Thank you.
Excelente, muchas gracias !!
I agree with C, NEVER PUT A NEEDLE OR A PIN IN YOR MOUTH !! Have a needle book or a pin cushion near to your work and place the needle or pin in it.
Genius! Thank you!
(Please never stash the needle in your mouth. That part gave me the heebiejeebies. Just get one of those magnetic wristbands(.
fabulous tip but seriously use a pincushion for that needle... excellent video.
This is a me changer for me! Thank you!!
This is very helpful! Thanks!
Best one yet!
Amazing!!i just did it and love this method:)
Thank you so much I would tie the yarn it left a big knot annoying bless you stay strong
Great video about something new!!
Very useful. Thanks you
Brilliant!
great method. but @4:20 you say "stick the needle in your mouth so you dont lose it!" just so you know; If you lose it in your mouth the only way it can be removed is by surgery. it is very risky to have a threadless needle in your mouth as it can travel with your blood flow and cause great injury or even death! i would recommend a pin cushion! i have known someone who went through this! thankfully they survived!
Sarah A thank you for warning ⚠️ 🙂
Sarah A .....booo
Totally incredible!
Excellent job!
Thank you. That was helpful. I had wondered if that would work but never tried it out and then saw your video. I shared on Pinterest. : )
I'm glad you found it helpful.
Thanks to your sharing it on Pinterest, the video now has over 100k views and my channel has over 500 subscribers. So, that's kind of neat :-D
I like that your name is Ann With A Plan, lol...almost like you knew what you were doing when you pinned it, thanks again!
Ahh Jenny, I wanted to see your WIP. It looked like it was fabulous.
www.ravelry.com/projects/1337andj/afghan-555-granny-afghan
Here's a link to my project page on Ravelry :-) if you're not on Ravelry, you should still be able to view it, I make all my project pages public...
Nice project. Usually I'm not into "granny squares" but this is definitely a strong contender for my new goddaughter's baptismal blanket (goddaughter status is still pending). 😃
Ditto! I like the look of them, but the repetitive tedium and joining squares gets to be a bit much for me. It was a bit of an honorary blanket though. I found 53 little one-round granny squares in the bottom/back of my dad's linen closet with a schematic and yarn shopping list in my deceased grandmother's handwriting. She died like 25 years ago--I felt compelled to finish the project. The whole story is in the link to my Ravelry project page in the above reply. My Ravelry projects are all public so you don't need to be a member to see. ;-)
Great video thanks so much
PLEASE, don’t ever put a needle or pin in your mouth. My uncle was holding a small nail in his mouth while building something. He ended up in the ER because the nail was inhaled. He had to have it surgically removed. Everyone can always have a small pincushion nearby to be their needles in. Great video. Thank you.
Awesome, thank you!
Never put a pin in your mouth, had a friend swallow one and was very, very lucky they were able to get it out without much damage.
You're not supposed to put it all the way inside your mouth! Just tuck the very end between your lips until you have a hand free. I've been hand sewing and occasionally holding the end of a needle or pin for decades now and will continue to do so just like my grandmother and mother did.
Thanks so much! It works!
Thank you for that. I'm guessing that once you crochet over that row you would be hard pressed to find that join.
I’d like to know the pattern you’re working on, please?!
Looks great.
Thanks for the compliment! It's actually a vintage pattern that it seems my grandmother had planned to reverse engineer, but she only got as far as making 53 one-round granny squares. The whole story is on my Ravelry project page here: www.ravelry.com/projects/1337andj/afghan-555-granny-afghan The page is public so you don't need to be a member to view it. It's pretty simple. Just joined the granny squares on their points so that there's a few rows of sc blo ripple between each row of squares. Or maybe it was flo🤔🤷🏻♀️😂
Looks great! Thank you. :)
Thanks, I'm going to try this.
I just came across this video for the first time today. What a wonderful tutorial. I have been looking everywhere to find a method that looks really secure and this is it! By the way, which brand of crochet hook are you using in this video? Thanks again.
It is a Lion Brand plastic hook. Originally I got it as part of a set from Michael's, and I recently went back to replace one of the set which had broken to find that they no longer carry them. Loops & Threads brand has taken over the aisle ;-)
They're good hooks, and I prefer them for their inline shape. You can probably find them on ebay or amazon.
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Wow I like your video/way. TY so much. very informative.
Sorry about the typo. Safety video. My apologies.
New Subscriber here. I've tried the Russian join, and while it works, it's harder to plan where the color change will happen and it is a little bulkier. Going to try this on my baby afghan.
I made a reply to this about a year ago but realized today that my information was incorrect. So I have deleted the old reply and typed up this new, accurate one:
I've successfully done it while changing colors. This involves an extra step or so, and if you'd like to try it, here's what I've done in the past: First you work your stitches up to where you will be changing colors, as if you were just going to join the new yarn in the last yarnover of crochet or the next stitch of knitting, as the case may be. Have your new yarn threaded onto your needle and ready to work. Then you mark the working yarn tail where the new color should begin (I usually just pinch the yarn at this spot), and unravel about 3-4" (7.5-10cm), and insert the needle with the new color at this marked (pinched) spot. Work as for the join, cut the old yarn with about a 2" (5cm) tail, and work it as usual for the join. voilà! color-change join!
For intricate colorwork or persons who are particularly picky about clean color changes, this might not be the best option, but it is an option nonetheless.
I am going to try this way to join.
Will have to try this.
Yes, nice idea but I couldn't see what you were doing most of the time. Please check to make sure the video is more viewable. Thank you.
Looks good, like this join,
beautiful pattern :) is it available on youtube? the yarn to join for this can only be wool is that right?
Nope, the yarn in the video is acrylic, and I've used this join for all kinds of fibers! But I believe the join will be strongest between two yarns that are wool.
The pattern is one I reverse engineered from an old newspaper clipping I found in my grandmother's belongings. She had made 53 one-round granny squares and had a schematic and plans for the whole blanket but never got around to it. So I finished it for her :-)
In essence, it's 3-round grannies placed on their points and joined by rows of sc in a ripple pattern made in back loops only.
Here is a link to my project page: www.ravelry.com/projects/1337andj/afghan-555-granny-afghan
You might be able to discern more from the pictures.
that is soooo much better!!
Thank you
Nice option, results about the same either way, but thanks for the video.
Yep, totally just an option with negligibly different results, haha!
I like it. Thank You
Another nice join, thank you.
How is this different than a Russian join?
Others have called this a Russian join as well, but the way I learned it, a Russian Join is where you run one tail back through itself, leaving a small loop at what is now the new end, then thread the yarn to be joined through that small loop and run that tail back through itself.
This one runs the tail of the old yarn through the new yarn and vice versa. Ultimately the difference is very slight, but I find this way to be a little faster to work and a little less bulky.
I will definitely try this method next time I need to join yarn. One thing I won’t do though... putting needle in mouth.
Awesome! Let's call it the USA join.
Why do people say: " You're going to...? "
What are u making ?what type of yarn do u like to use for blanket /throw ?!
This was a throw blanket project. There's a link to my project in the video's description if you'd like to see more details.
As far as afghan yarn--that all depends on your preference. This blanket was all acrylic aran weight. I've also made many blankets out of unraveled sweaters. Some have been a dk weight cotton which turn out to be light and lovely. Then I also have an aran weight blanket also from unraveled sweaters in aran weight that is all wool and wool blends. It is wonderfully warm and squishy.
So when choosing an afghan yarn, you may want to consider the recipient and how it will be used. A busy single parent family may want something that's easy-care like cotton or acrylic. Whereas a single person who is laundry savvy may be happy with a wool/blend blanket.
Thank you! What is the work you are making ?
It was a throw blanket. There is a link to my project in the video description.
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nice
Other than saying "put your needle in your mouth" (whaaaaaat?) , thanks for your video.
I find cutting my yarn at an angle to form a knife, enables it to slide into the needle; also I use a tiny piece of Sellotape wrapped around the end of the yarn works ace. Another tip is to save old candle wax and dip into it.
Interesting! I'll start cutting my yarn at an angle now and see how I like it...thanks!