I'm happy someone finally see death as neutral since he's just doing his job as death and pretty much telling puss to always live your life well and don't laugh at the face of death
@@insertnamehere5145Isn't the presence of Death enough to make us value life? Isn't Death's presence what makes Puss finally value his because he'd never felt it before? I'd say that was part of his job. He doesn't kill. He claims, and makes you value what you have while you have it. If he wanted to kill Puss, he would've.
For anyone wondering why Pitch is both, it's cause he's not a spirit, he's an alien warrior who was possessed by demons who just wanted to see his family again.
I thought that at first too, but rewatching the scene you'll see that Drago really just kinda uses that as an excuse for justification, and Hiccup even sees straight through that and Drago essentially admits to what he was doing
Grimmel is the most evil, because of him the Night Furies nearly all went extinct and because of him the Berkians and Dragons couldn't stay together and the Berkains lost old Berk!
I wouldn't say that make him the most evil, but more so one of the most successful. He did drive the night furies to effective extinction at the very least, and he was able to drive humans and dragons apart. Just as a random example of more evil villains, I'd say that Lord Shen was actually more evil. While he had the same goal of genocide as Grimmel, he was genociding a race he knew for a fact were sentient, and while he far from succeeded, the fact attempted to in the first place is what matters. As real life comparisons, Grimmel forced lions to extinction, whilst Shen committed racial genocide (granted we don't know how many pandas he ended up killing, but still).
You do realize jack Horner couldn’t give 2 shits dying,grimmel only wiped out the night furies to make them extinct.Jack Horner killed his army in the process of dying himself
@zoorockf1 Hold up, let's old at what they both tried to do. Grimmel: Animal genocide, animal enslavement, mass expulsion (forcing Berk to move), mental warfare. Drago: Mass homicide, animal enslavement, animal abuse (expecally on a young Bewilderbeast, and using a bull hook no less), mental warfare (controlling Toothless), attempted world domination, annexing (taking over Berk) While I may of missed some of Grimmel's crimes (feel free to remind me if I have), but I'm pretty confident in saying that Drago is the more evil of the two. The both of them had an event in their lives that set the ground work for what they would do later in life, but only one of them would actively abuse and torture them to their own ends. And in my opinion at least, mass enslavement and abuse of the scale that Drago goes to is more evil then simply trying to kill all dragons.
My headcannon for Kai: Taking into account how he was ambushed, had his brother in arms in a near death state, and helplessly looked for anything or anybody that can help them for weeks on end. Kai most likely traumatized by these events, sought out the power of chi to strengthen himself further, not wanting to ever relive those moments of powerlessness ever again. Oogway betraying him was further insult to injury
@@shinobukoko204 Kai is never meant to be sympathy. He's created to be a evil villain wanting chi for himself which is selfish and not for pity. Don't you see?
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I mean I understand for Kai, he is portrayed as an evil villain, but he has preventions from being completely evil. But Tai Lung in my eyes is a tragic villain who should've had a chance at redemption, hopefully in KFP4 he'll return as a spirit warrior.
@@shinobukoko204 Like his comedic moments of people not knowing who he is, I get it. So it's not a pity that he's portrayed as a evil villain with no tragedy compared to Tai Lung and Shen (though for Shen's case, he's very evil too and his crimes outweighs his tragedy).
@Insertnamehere Puss mocked the very idea of Death going around getting himself killed thus wasting it. Everyone only have one life while cats have 9 and while Death admitted that he finds the idea of cat having 9 lives being absurd he still accepted it he doesn't go around hunting cats before their time because of his own personal opinion. But what exactly makes Puss deserving to live that life after what he did? He has already wasted 8 of his lives dying in the stupidest way possible? In Death eyes Puss no longer deserve to live his ninth life and he's right and it was until Puss finally accepted that he must fight for his last life no matter what and cherish it that Death finally lets him go.
Draco is not pure evil, he's kind of a bit of both. I remember him saying, " A dragon did this to my arm" or smth. Personally, maybe caused of his lost arm he became evil to make dragons over his command. And in order to do that he steps foot on the dragons snout or such with *no fear* because a second he already knows what they can do, his cloak can avoid it. Maybe not pure evil but evil after the arm injury. Literally
@@SirToaster9330 "Seeing how my village burned, lost my whole family, I was merely a boy, and I was left with NOTHING." this line is from the movie, Drago's broke, end Note: This might not be the actual line, as I watched the movie in Polish and just translated what I remember
@@addictedtofauna3838 well yes, but the betrayal was Oogway stopping him from killing pandas, if someone does not realise how wrong that is, he already is pure evil
@Wilt&Blush Someone made a good point on how Kai just wanted the power so that he wouldn't have to feel powerless anymore like he did when he nearly lost Oogway but I believe he is both
Let's draw a line here. The Red Death is an animal, a very very developed animal but still not on the same evolutionary level with humans. Which means that it only follows it's nature, good or evil can't be applied on it.
Exactly, I always saw it as a force of nature rather than an evil creature, it was intelligent but never showed signs of real malice until it was provoked. Insatiable is a better way to explain it's actions, it was always hungry and never satisfied which would make any animal aggressive and quick to rage especially when attacked in that state of being
@@Doctor_Portly_64 I think the circumstances made it so aggressive. Berk and the surrounding area wasn't exactly brimming with natural food supply, and a creature of this size has to eat A LOT. As you said, a constant state of hunger would make anyone and anything pissed.
@@Mediadosyeah and they are on her land driving out the servants attack her that was to add to the offensive but we can’t blame the Vikings she is neither with the other animal villain
True, but it was also committing cannibalism and overall enslavement, which based on the dragons reactions, was a huge fear of theirs. She was highly intelligent- showcasing the ability to destroy priority targets (the boats that the berk forces came in on) before systematically taking out the offenders on her island. After Hiccup and Toothless both emerged as a threat, she focused on them specifically, recognizing them as the biggest threat in the room and focused her attention on them. This plus the fact that we have witnessed throughout the series that dragons are highly emotive, intelligent creatures, some of which like toothless id bet have equal if slightly less intelligence than their Viking counterparts, is enough to suggest that dragons do have some moral standards.
Pure evil villains are the best kind because they have fully developed. The anti or broken villains are essentially the teenagers who don't know which way they want to go yet
I don't think there is one best kind of villain. Both pure evil villains and broken ones can be amazing characters or terrible ones, just depends on how well executed they are
Late, BUT. He's not supposed to KILL, he's supposed to GUIDE souls once they are officially DEAD. He tried to kill Puss before he died. When the Past Puss says "That's cheating!", Death shushes and says "Don't tell."
Here's the thing: Lord Farquaad-Pure Evil, he literally ruined a bunch of fairy tail's lives and tried to usurp and cheated the throne. Fairy Godmother-Both, well she does have care for his son, but also evil she tried to cheat someone's love and tried to usurp the throne. Prince Charming-Broken, he does have a few downsides like taking over the kingdom and attempted murder. Rumpelstiltskin-Pure Evil, he's a dirty cheater and ruined the lives of Far Far Away and Shrek. Fossas-Neither, well because it's just natural instincts on what animals have they're not that malicious or evil. Makunga-Pure Evil, doesn't care about anyone not even his subjects and once again usurped and cheated the throne. Chantel Dubois-Pure Evil, at first it looked like she was doing her job but when you realize she did a lot illegal things that she did not even regret like animal abuse, poaching, trespassing, aggrevated assault and attempted murder on Alex the Lion and lastly the use of a deadly poison. Red Death- Both, well it's obviously animal instincts because we'll she's a dragon but on the other hand she also kills her subjects and tried to kill Toothless and Hiccup and his friends and family. Drago Bludvist-Pure Evil, a complete whack job! Includes murdering Hiccups father, tried to destroy his village and enslaving the dragons a complete tyrant. Grimmel the Grisly-Pure Evil, another whack job! Including once again attempted murder, extinction of the night furies and dragon poaching and enslavement not a good person at all. Lord Shen-Pure Evil, including slaughtering an entire village full of pandas, killing his subjects who don't listen to orders, conquering other places and lastly usurping the throne. Kai-Pure Evil,sure he did help Oogway survive but his greedy actions for power literally costed him everything and has regard from anyone at all, and lastly he steals souls. Literally Evil.
It's interesting to see how Villians differ from franchise to franchise. In Madagascar and in HTTYD they are exclusively pure evil, in Shrek they are both or more mixed, and in Kung Fu Panda they all are Broken. This can also correlate with amount of conflict and tension between them and the protagonist. In Madagascar, HTTYD and Shrek the emphasys is more on internal challenges that heroes face, their interactions and struggles. And in Kung Fu Panda it is more about Chemistry between villain and hero, which makes part 2 so good.
I kinda consider Jack Horner on the "both" list, considering the shitty childhood he had to endure with loving parents, a mansion, and a successful enterprise for him to inherit.
The reason he became evil was because he saw that magic was better than what he had so he wanted stuff was better he simply has high ambitions but a low moral standard so I'd kind of say both
Even though he isn't here, I'd say Tighten is both too. Man was broken after being rejected by Roxanne, but then he really did go pure evil in destroying the town and doing whatever the hell he wanted to its people for his own enjoyment, like the "under new management" scene and all that
Tighten was an incel who didn't understand the concept of a woman just not being interested in him. I'd say there was a bit of broke but don't put it on Roxanne, put it on his mentality.
@@alannatherson7721Tightens issue is he was gaslit by an evil supervillain who promised him everything hed ever wanted if he got super powers. And why shouldnt he believe the magic glowing man, Metroman had his powers, adoring fans, beloved by everyone and got the girl. So clearly getting Metromans powers would do the same for him. Hell the start of the movie even has Megamind believe the same thing, that the other kids liked Metroman more than him because his powers were better than his intelligence. We even see a glimpse of how even after "winning" megamind wasnt happy with ruling the city so he created some to fight him and basically figured Jimmy Olsen would work.
So proud of you for putting “Neither” for the Fossa as they were just being predators on pure instinct same with Thunderclap the pterosaur from the good dinosaur.
He cheated, though. Puss still had one life left, but since he didn't value any of the other ones, he decided that it would be better for him to just take the last one. So, he was abusing his power.
@@camilavalencia4646 i mean, shifu filled his head with dreams just to end up in prison for 20 years, and when he got the scroll, his motivation was gone Tai Lung is actually relatable if you listen closely when he was fighting shifu
A quote from Dean Deblois describing Grimmel for those of you who thinks he’s “broken” “Grimmel, he's just all about intolerance. He thinks dragons are vermin. They are the enemy, they must be suppressed or removed. He cannot tolerate a world in which he has to live with dragons, and the idea that there's some young Viking chief on the island of Berk trying to teach people that they can all live together is personally offensive to him.”
In my opinion Drago is both. He quickly adapted to harsh ways like he was born to be ruthless. But if his village wasn't killed and arm taken by Dragons he would not have ended up where he did
@@guitarist2463 Nah I rewatched that moment Hiccup confronted him. He said despite it all he would promise to liberate humanity. He never mentioned not being affected
@@gardenerguy2.065 Yes for those who do not follow his views on how to liberate humanity because he believes they do not want that if they don't. He thinks his way is the right way because no one has been as successful as him or even tried,. But then again that does contradict the fact that he agreed.
Oh it was pointed out that it was an excuse he didn’t want dragons to conquering dragons for revenge just to conquer humans hiccup said it and he agrees he may have made that up too grimmel and him are pure evil
Mate literally said that he was using dragons to conquer other dragons, before hiccup called him out on his BS and said that the real reason was that Drago was using Dragons to conquer those that didn’t fall in line, which Drago affirmed with a “smart boy”.
Nice touch that Death isn't Pure Evil nor Broken. As he's the literal manifestation of "Death", He can't really be Pure Evil, as Death is natural, he doesn't pick sides; and he can't really be Broken either, cause he's not there to exact revenge or get back at someone, he is only doing his job to take someone's life when their life is up.
@@matityaloran9157 yes, but it does not make him evil. Yes, death was breaking the rules by hunting puss down himself, but he only did so because puss broke the rules first. He however is not impartial since he enjoys puss' fear. Just as much as Lobo was death taking phisycal form, to him, puss was the embodyment of an insult to all the people who valued their lives and still met him in the end, so he hated him in a fundamental level, that being said, he wanted to torture him before the kill and that is why he kept letting him escape, puss coming to understand the value of life was just a consequence. Long story short, Death is more pissed about puss not valuing life than about his disrespect towards him.
@@LuizGontijo10 Puss didn’t break the rules. Puss didn’t cherish his lives. That’s not against Death’s rules. And trying to murder someone for disrespecting you is evil
@@matityaloran9157 What i was trying to say is, the reason Death hated Puss was his lack of value for life but the true reason he wanted him dead was him having 9 lives which he considered breaking the rules and still not valuing even his last. I'm sorry if i frased it badly.
I think Kai is moreso both than just broken. Oogway betrayed him but he seeked revenge upon people not related to anything Oogway created. Edit: On top of that, he wanted the Chi of the pandas that saved Oogways life for the sake of power.
I can't really see Kai as "Broken" considering he wanted to steal the Chi of every panda in the village for his own personal gain and no other reason so Oogway stopped him, but "Pure Evil" is a bit much cause before Oogway got hurt he was a loyal and pure hearted warrior that cared about Oogway
Verdict: Near Pure Evil. The only thing that prevents him from being pure evil is that he failed Heinous Standards to Shen, another Near Pure Evil, who did far worse things than him with lesser resources.
@@Marcuski31 He’s quite literally death. Death doesn’t murder, it just happens. Death, however, is a result of murder. But they didn’t get murdered by death, they were murdered by the murderer and death took them away.
@@domino-vi6ns Death is only meant to take people who are dead away, Puss is not dead yet Death is unhappy because of how Puss is so uncaring of his remaining life.
@@Marcuski31 u just elaborate why death is neither lol , he was teaching him a lesson , love puss so much but i gotta admit he was too arrogant and stuff
Why death is not a bad guy is because he thought puss was going to waste his last life so Death decided to take matters into his own hands, but during their last fight, Death sensed that Puss has truly learned his lesson and decided to leave him alone
I think lord Shen would be straight-up pure evil. I mean, he was just a spoiled brat, that sought to make all pandas go extinct because of some prophecy about what would happen if he stay on the BAD path. And then, he was so shocked his parents were terrified of his action and banished him from the city. And then, he wanted to conquer the whole of China and kill kung-fu warriors that would stand against him. It nice compilation by the way, and very good. I am glad you have put Death (wolf) as "Neither"
@@nhatminhhoa the human race has been the worst enemy for the planet because of our knowledge and technology no matter if we call it survival we are doing it in the worst way to damage the planet
Tbh I think rumpel stiltskin is both. At the start of Shrek 4 we see he just wants to rule far far away but after that plan fails, due to Shrek having just rescued Fiona at the time, he becomes a disrespected, unloved outcast of society living on scraps so he wants to rule far far away even more so because he has ended up with such a miserable and lonely life and is fueled by his hate of Shrek ruining his original plan by rescuing Fiona
Red death is just doing what it naturally does. Drago: I know what it's like, to live in fear. My village burned, my family taken. But even as a boy, left with nothing!
Red Death can eat fish tho, but it chooses to enslave dragons as it is too lazy to hunt for itself. Drago is slightly broken, he admitted he only wants power.
@@guitarist2463 yeah that's what the red death does, it has similar abilities to bewilderbeast so obviously its meant to control dragons and I agree that Drago is evil but that's because of his past. So he should be broken and evil.
Shen is not broken, his parents disowned him after he committed genocide. He grew up in a palace with adoring parents, he was the evilest villain in the king fu panda trilogy.
I'd argue Grimmel is both. On one hand, he went on a genocide of the Night Furies, but he also never had any designs on power or dominance over others, rather just killing dragons for the sake of peace for humanity - the same way all Vikings were at the start of the series.
I see no one defending the Red Death. Sure she was a giant destructive monster, but at the end of the day she’s an animal. A large one too so hunting would be a problem for her. And yeah she ate that Gronkle, but it bring her like 1 tiny fish 💀. Vikings came to her territory and attacked it. Not saying they had no reason, but if you’re gonna say the Fossa’s were neither, then Red Death is too for defending her territory.
The only one I disagree with is Kai, he became a Chi vampire the moment he learned he could, and was beaten by Oogway afterwards. At best he’s both, but he was certainly Evil before he was broken.
Jack Horner is both Pure evil: wants to rule the world with his magic Broken: when he was a child he tried so hard to impress customers with his Horner pies but they were more impressed at ponocioh as seen in his flashback.
I think Lord Shen is pure evil, I see no reason why he should be broken. He is the one who creates the broken. While for kai, I guess he's pure evil too, caus first he was good, but he became evil when he found out he could steal chi, there wasn't really anything that made him become evil.
Thank you for saying shen is both people thinks Either a evil for the sake of being evil villain or a misunderstood victim when in reality he's neither He was driven by fear of the prophecy but in end he ended destroyed other people lifes and his own in the process and ended up dying anyway that's what makes him a interesting character
Shen is half half, his actions are inexcusable because there wasn't a reason for him to actually commit a genocide. But on the other hand, him believing his parents hated him is heartbreaking too.
Only Tai is broken for Kai he's pure evil he'd kill for power, but kinda broken to because of oogway, but he did it for the right reason to stop Kai from taking people life from power. Can't judge him for that
I like how Death not pure evil or Broken. The dude just Death doing his job but just is annoyed with cats having 9 lives. Death a sick villain though 😁
Oogway didn't betray him, he feels betrayed though in his perspective and was lonely for 500 years. Oogway was right but Kai still cared enough to atleast have reservations and held on to his amulet till the end. That's why I said he's broken.
Imo Lord Farquad - Pure evil Fairy Godmother - Pure evil Prince Charming - Broken Rumpelstiltskin - Pure evil Fossas - Neither Makunga - Pure evil Captain DuBois - Pure evil Red death - Neither Drago Bludvist - Both Grimmel the grisly - Pure evil (100℅) Tai Lung - Broken Lord Shen - Pure evil Kai - Both Pitch Black - Pure evil Jack Horner - Pure evil DEATH - Just doing job
Why people are saying death is not a villian? People keep forgetting he broke the rul. Death was suppose to do his 'job' after someone dies, instead he tried to kill Puss coz he hurt Death's ego
puss was arrogant and say he laugh at the face of death , death teach him a lesson and put him in his place , even spared puss life once puss decided to change for good , puss is still alive right now bcz of this
Don’t make him evil for trying to someone eliminate/ teach someone who didn’t value 8 extra lives ppl would do anything for. Everyone is supposed to fear death even kitty did who also had 8 extra lives
Personally I think he is pure evil because he himself stated that he just wanted to conquer the world, just using that backstory as an excuse for his actions as he knows he is evil deep down.
The reason I said no is because despite his backstory, he didn't care about anyone anyways, while Kai or Shen cared about Oogway and the Soothsayer respectively.
Drago just got laughed at If a crowd of people laughed at me because they didn't believe I can't control dragons is because it's nothing they've never seen or heard before so in that case Drago is the one who decided to take it personal because his endurance is not that good
@@addictedtofauna3838 I have to say no to that Kai could have lived a good life with Oogway if he wasn't so selfish with taking away peoples' Chi for himself he put himself in that situation of betrayal as for Tai Lung and Shen are much deeper than that especially Shen Tai Lung was always told that he'd be more than just a master of Martial Arts but the dragon warrior after his hard effort to make Shifu proud it never paid off which infuriated him but then he was abandoned and left to die alone while someone else takes his place Shen has a more darker backstory when he was younger he dedicated his time to create weapons which in everyone's perspective would help defend China but his parents didn't see peace in that and called Soothsayer to predict what will happen if he follows his path when he overheard what the prophesy was he had a mission to kill all Pandas to secure his future out of fear, but permanently marked it and it goes to him by getting banished by his parents and leaving him with the idea that they never loved him and must have fallen into a river of denial
@@DVDTAPEAFKs I get that his ACTIONS were wrong, but Kai did it to protect Oogway (so he was pretty much already a paranoid psycho). You're right though, Shen and Tai Lung are deeper villains.
I would argue that the first one is also "neither". He is what to be expected from a medieval ruler, nothing special, not worse, not better than the average
Rumpelstiltskin is both he did kill one of his henchmen but he cares for his pet goose when shreks time was up his his pet goose disappeared and he called for her when she disappeared showing he has a heart
We really can’t blame Jack for how he turned out. All he had as a kid was a mansion, loving parents and a successful baking interprise to inherit.
i get it
Useless crap like that.
But that's useless crap.
man, just wanted all the magic in the world for himself and no one else, is that too much to ask?
Exactly, what did he do to deserve death? I mean what specifically?
I'm happy someone finally see death as neutral since he's just doing his job as death and pretty much telling puss to always live your life well and don't laugh at the face of death
@@insertnamehere5145Isn't the presence of Death enough to make us value life? Isn't Death's presence what makes Puss finally value his because he'd never felt it before?
I'd say that was part of his job. He doesn't kill. He claims, and makes you value what you have while you have it. If he wanted to kill Puss, he would've.
@Insertnamehere Also, Deaths 'job' is to deal with the dead not deal with those who are alive, like murdering them, for instance
@Insertnamehere shush don't tell!
@Insertnamehere true but I feel like death also tried to teach puss the value of death
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For anyone wondering why Pitch is both, it's cause he's not a spirit, he's an alien warrior who was possessed by demons who just wanted to see his family again.
Where is it stated that he was an alien? I don't remember
@@karaqi_2104 - In the books somewhere, I'm sure. That bit of knowledge never made it into the movie.
As I recall, Mother Nature is his daughter.
Wut?
@@kevinlane1219 the fuck?
I’d say Drago isn’t pure evil. He was emotionally and physically scarred by dragons attacking him as a child.
@@jesseangreen9613 drago:Seeing how my village burned, lost my whole family, I was merely a boy, and I was left with nothing: his still bit of both
I thought that at first too, but rewatching the scene you'll see that Drago really just kinda uses that as an excuse for justification, and Hiccup even sees straight through that and Drago essentially admits to what he was doing
@@theguywhodoesbeyblade1v1ed21 and then he makes a child about to get blasted by a damn night fury? yea totally broken
@@jesseangreen9613 this path you walk....... vengeance...... you will find no peace....... I know.
fr like he had his arm ripped off when he tried to train a dragon as a kid as a parallel of hiccup training toothless. his broken not pure evil
Grimmel is the most evil, because of him the Night Furies nearly all went extinct and because of him the Berkians and Dragons couldn't stay together and the Berkains lost old Berk!
Tbh he's tied with Jack Horner
I wouldn't say that make him the most evil, but more so one of the most successful. He did drive the night furies to effective extinction at the very least, and he was able to drive humans and dragons apart.
Just as a random example of more evil villains, I'd say that Lord Shen was actually more evil. While he had the same goal of genocide as Grimmel, he was genociding a race he knew for a fact were sentient, and while he far from succeeded, the fact attempted to in the first place is what matters.
As real life comparisons, Grimmel forced lions to extinction, whilst Shen committed racial genocide (granted we don't know how many pandas he ended up killing, but still).
You do realize jack Horner couldn’t give 2 shits dying,grimmel only wiped out the night furies to make them extinct.Jack Horner killed his army in the process of dying himself
@zoorockf1 Hold up, let's old at what they both tried to do.
Grimmel: Animal genocide, animal enslavement, mass expulsion (forcing Berk to move), mental warfare.
Drago: Mass homicide, animal enslavement, animal abuse (expecally on a young Bewilderbeast, and using a bull hook no less), mental warfare (controlling Toothless), attempted world domination, annexing (taking over Berk)
While I may of missed some of Grimmel's crimes (feel free to remind me if I have), but I'm pretty confident in saying that Drago is the more evil of the two. The both of them had an event in their lives that set the ground work for what they would do later in life, but only one of them would actively abuse and torture them to their own ends. And in my opinion at least, mass enslavement and abuse of the scale that Drago goes to is more evil then simply trying to kill all dragons.
Ya and he basically won
Lord Shen is committing a genocide like it's a walk in the park, now that's a true villain
Everyone's favorite Near Pure Evil, I swear.
He was so cruel
My headcannon for Kai:
Taking into account how he was ambushed, had his brother in arms in a near death state, and helplessly looked for anything or anybody that can help them for weeks on end.
Kai most likely traumatized by these events, sought out the power of chi to strengthen himself further, not wanting to ever relive those moments of powerlessness ever again.
Oogway betraying him was further insult to injury
That is what the movie implied from the backstory. Its hard not to feel bad for Kai
@@guitarist2463 Too bad him and Tai both got treated like Pure Evil villains instead of Broken villains and were both killed off.
@@shinobukoko204 Kai is never meant to be sympathy. He's created to be a evil villain wanting chi for himself which is selfish and not for pity. Don't you see?
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I mean I understand for Kai, he is portrayed as an evil villain, but he has preventions from being completely evil.
But Tai Lung in my eyes is a tragic villain who should've had a chance at redemption, hopefully in KFP4 he'll return as a spirit warrior.
@@shinobukoko204 Like his comedic moments of people not knowing who he is, I get it. So it's not a pity that he's portrayed as a evil villain with no tragedy compared to Tai Lung and Shen (though for Shen's case, he's very evil too and his crimes outweighs his tragedy).
Red Death is just a big fish in a small pond. Imagine struggling to survive when everything is too small to fully sate your hunger.
The Bewilderbeast mang very well
And so do other deaths like the green death
Finally a video that does not put death being Pure Evil like he's just doing his job
A job that he takes a bit too much joy out of it
@@supertrike5893 I think that's more like goofing around than being pure evil
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because Puss is a unique case. it's not hard to grasp
@Insertnamehere Puss mocked the very idea of Death going around getting himself killed thus wasting it. Everyone only have one life while cats have 9 and while Death admitted that he finds the idea of cat having 9 lives being absurd he still accepted it he doesn't go around hunting cats before their time because of his own personal opinion. But what exactly makes Puss deserving to live that life after what he did? He has already wasted 8 of his lives dying in the stupidest way possible? In Death eyes Puss no longer deserve to live his ninth life and he's right and it was until Puss finally accepted that he must fight for his last life no matter what and cherish it that Death finally lets him go.
No he not just doing his job, puss still had one life. Death should have waited instead of trying to kill puss
Draco is not pure evil, he's kind of a bit of both. I remember him saying, " A dragon did this to my arm" or smth. Personally, maybe caused of his lost arm he became evil to make dragons over his command. And in order to do that he steps foot on the dragons snout or such with *no fear* because a second he already knows what they can do, his cloak can avoid it. Maybe not pure evil but evil after the arm injury. Literally
Oop not Draco, Drago-
Drago lost his entire family to dragons
@@SirToaster9330 kinda forgot the movie, been a while since I watched it but if you remember that in the movie then I'll believe you
@@SirToaster9330 "Seeing how my village burned, lost my whole family, I was merely a boy, and I was left with NOTHING."
this line is from the movie, Drago's broke, end
Note: This might not be the actual line, as I watched the movie in Polish and just translated what I remember
Hiccup ends up calling it an excuse, because Drago just wants to rule over everyone. And Drago concedes.
1 problem, Kai is not broken, any excuse he has is ultimately petty and not taken as sympathetic in the slightest.
Doubt that. Many people do actually feel sympathy for him when he is actually talking about his betrayal.
He's honestly broken to a point. He did feel extremely hurt by Oogway's "betrayal" and keeps reservations for Oogway's amulet.
@@addictedtofauna3838 well yes, but the betrayal was Oogway stopping him from killing pandas, if someone does not realise how wrong that is, he already is pure evil
@Wilt&Blush if it's messed up, then it's wrong...
@Wilt&Blush Someone made a good point on how Kai just wanted the power so that he wouldn't have to feel powerless anymore like he did when he nearly lost Oogway but I believe he is both
Kai had evil intentions before he was broken
Not really. He wanted to protect Oogway, which was selfless. He was corrupted by paranoia and insecurity.
He treated Oogway like a brother before paranoia got the best of him to think Chi is worth taking than giving
Let's draw a line here. The Red Death is an animal, a very very developed animal but still not on the same evolutionary level with humans. Which means that it only follows it's nature, good or evil can't be applied on it.
Exactly, I always saw it as a force of nature rather than an evil creature, it was intelligent but never showed signs of real malice until it was provoked. Insatiable is a better way to explain it's actions, it was always hungry and never satisfied which would make any animal aggressive and quick to rage especially when attacked in that state of being
@@Doctor_Portly_64 I think the circumstances made it so aggressive. Berk and the surrounding area wasn't exactly brimming with natural food supply, and a creature of this size has to eat A LOT. As you said, a constant state of hunger would make anyone and anything pissed.
@@Mediadosyeah and they are on her land driving out the servants attack her that was to add to the offensive but we can’t blame the Vikings she is neither with the other animal villain
True, but it was also committing cannibalism and overall enslavement, which based on the dragons reactions, was a huge fear of theirs. She was highly intelligent- showcasing the ability to destroy priority targets (the boats that the berk forces came in on) before systematically taking out the offenders on her island. After Hiccup and Toothless both emerged as a threat, she focused on them specifically, recognizing them as the biggest threat in the room and focused her attention on them.
This plus the fact that we have witnessed throughout the series that dragons are highly emotive, intelligent creatures, some of which like toothless id bet have equal if slightly less intelligence than their Viking counterparts, is enough to suggest that dragons do have some moral standards.
Pure evil villains are the best kind because they have fully developed. The anti or broken villains are essentially the teenagers who don't know which way they want to go yet
I don't think there is one best kind of villain. Both pure evil villains and broken ones can be amazing characters or terrible ones, just depends on how well executed they are
@@anatoldenevers237 didn't ask anything related to that
Jack Horner, all he had as a kid was a mansion, loving parents, a successful baking interprise to inherit and all that useless crap
Shen is pure evil, bro attempted panda genocide and got pissed that his parents banished him
I agree
I'm glad someone actually realized that death is just doing his damn job
Late, BUT. He's not supposed to KILL, he's supposed to GUIDE souls once they are officially DEAD. He tried to kill Puss before he died. When the Past Puss says "That's cheating!", Death shushes and says "Don't tell."
Glad to see pitch being included in something
Yeah ROTG is sooo underrated in general
@@addictedtofauna3838 Yeah I watched that movie so much and I went to school with some toys of it if I Was shocked When no one knew what it was😅
Finally someone now doesn't see death as evil or broken.
Here's the thing:
Lord Farquaad-Pure Evil, he literally ruined a bunch of fairy tail's lives and tried to usurp and cheated the throne.
Fairy Godmother-Both, well she does have care for his son, but also evil she tried to cheat someone's love and tried to usurp the throne.
Prince Charming-Broken, he does have a few downsides like taking over the kingdom and attempted murder.
Rumpelstiltskin-Pure Evil, he's a dirty cheater and ruined the lives of Far Far Away and Shrek.
Fossas-Neither, well because it's just natural instincts on what animals have they're not that malicious or evil.
Makunga-Pure Evil, doesn't care about anyone not even his subjects and once again usurped and cheated the throne.
Chantel Dubois-Pure Evil, at first it looked like she was doing her job but when you realize she did a lot illegal things that she did not even regret like animal abuse, poaching, trespassing, aggrevated assault and attempted murder on Alex the Lion and lastly the use of a deadly poison.
Red Death- Both, well it's obviously animal instincts because we'll she's a dragon but on the other hand she also kills her subjects and tried to kill Toothless and Hiccup and his friends and family.
Drago Bludvist-Pure Evil, a complete whack job! Includes murdering Hiccups father, tried to destroy his village and enslaving the dragons a complete tyrant.
Grimmel the Grisly-Pure Evil, another whack job! Including once again attempted murder, extinction of the night furies and dragon poaching and enslavement not a good person at all.
Lord Shen-Pure Evil, including slaughtering an entire village full of pandas, killing his subjects who don't listen to orders, conquering other places and lastly usurping the throne.
Kai-Pure Evil,sure he did help Oogway survive but his greedy actions for power literally costed him everything and has regard from anyone at all, and lastly he steals souls. Literally Evil.
Death is honestly my favorite character next to Grimmel, Drago, and the Red Death. Yes I am a Httyd fan.
Same
I hate Grimmel because he was ruthless
@@IDESPISEPILLOWNot a valid reason
@@IDESPISEPILLOWYou hate him because he's ruthless well that what villains do, not a valid reason
@@mr.ghiblidude whoops
Congratulstions, you are the first person that catalog Pitch Black like Both
It's interesting to see how Villians differ from franchise to franchise. In Madagascar and in HTTYD they are exclusively pure evil, in Shrek they are both or more mixed, and in Kung Fu Panda they all are Broken. This can also correlate with amount of conflict and tension between them and the protagonist. In Madagascar, HTTYD and Shrek the emphasys is more on internal challenges that heroes face, their interactions and struggles. And in Kung Fu Panda it is more about Chemistry between villain and hero, which makes part 2 so good.
Kai is not shown to be broken to me.
Dave the octopus is the only villain in Madagascar that is broken
@@Marquis-w1t your right actually
I kinda consider Jack Horner on the "both" list, considering the shitty childhood he had to endure with loving parents, a mansion, and a successful enterprise for him to inherit.
True
True
But does he really have to conquer the world with magic?
The reason he became evil was because he saw that magic was better than what he had so he wanted stuff was better he simply has high ambitions but a low moral standard so I'd kind of say both
Useless crap like that 😔
Even though he isn't here, I'd say Tighten is both too. Man was broken after being rejected by Roxanne, but then he really did go pure evil in destroying the town and doing whatever the hell he wanted to its people for his own enjoyment, like the "under new management" scene and all that
I agree
Tighten was an incel who didn't understand the concept of a woman just not being interested in him. I'd say there was a bit of broke but don't put it on Roxanne, put it on his mentality.
@@alannatherson7721 I didn't put it on Roxanne, she was justified. I was just saying that was the instance that broke him
@@flatstheflounder2884 My argument is that getting rejected isn't what broke Hal, he was already broken by his own toxic mentality.
@@alannatherson7721Tightens issue is he was gaslit by an evil supervillain who promised him everything hed ever wanted if he got super powers.
And why shouldnt he believe the magic glowing man, Metroman had his powers, adoring fans, beloved by everyone and got the girl. So clearly getting Metromans powers would do the same for him.
Hell the start of the movie even has Megamind believe the same thing, that the other kids liked Metroman more than him because his powers were better than his intelligence.
We even see a glimpse of how even after "winning" megamind wasnt happy with ruling the city so he created some to fight him and basically figured Jimmy Olsen would work.
So proud of you for putting “Neither” for the Fossa as they were just being predators on pure instinct same with Thunderclap the pterosaur from the good dinosaur.
Death: I'm just doing and enjoying my work
Tai lung was such a badass, one of my favourite villains from my favourite movie, would love to see him again.
I think he died
Está confirmado que aparecerá en Kung fu panda 4 (use translate)
Finally someone who understands that death isn’t broken or pure evil. Death is just a force that comes for us all one day
He cheated, though. Puss still had one life left, but since he didn't value any of the other ones, he decided that it would be better for him to just take the last one. So, he was abusing his power.
I like how most of DreamWorks characters are more vibrant than any other characters in the history of entertainment.
Tai Lung is the best Example of a broken Villain
I agree
@@camilavalencia4646 i mean, shifu filled his head with dreams just to end up in prison for 20 years, and when he got the scroll, his motivation was gone
Tai Lung is actually relatable if you listen closely when he was fighting shifu
Tai Lung deserved redemption
You forgot Hal Stewart(a.k.a Tighten)
I don't know if he is pure evil or broken
A quote from Dean Deblois describing Grimmel for those of you who thinks he’s “broken”
“Grimmel, he's just all about intolerance. He thinks dragons are vermin. They are the enemy, they must be suppressed or removed. He cannot tolerate a world in which he has to live with dragons, and the idea that there's some young Viking chief on the island of Berk trying to teach people that they can all live together is personally offensive to him.”
In my opinion Drago is both. He quickly adapted to harsh ways like he was born to be ruthless. But if his village wasn't killed and arm taken by Dragons he would not have ended up where he did
He’s still pure evil, he wasn’t at all affected by the village destruction. He admitted it to Hiccup.
@@guitarist2463 Nah I rewatched that moment Hiccup confronted him. He said despite it all he would promise to liberate humanity. He never mentioned not being affected
@@Havoc_cultleader
"Maybe you need dragons to conquer people. To control those that follow you. And to get rid of those who won't."
"Clever boy."
@@gardenerguy2.065 Yes for those who do not follow his views on how to liberate humanity because he believes they do not want that if they don't. He thinks his way is the right way because no one has been as successful as him or even tried,. But then again that does contradict the fact that he agreed.
I wouldn't say Drago Bludvist is pure evil: dragons destroyed his village and killed his kid.
Oh it was pointed out that it was an excuse he didn’t want dragons to conquering dragons for revenge just to conquer humans hiccup said it and he agrees he may have made that up too grimmel and him are pure evil
Mate literally said that he was using dragons to conquer other dragons, before hiccup called him out on his BS and said that the real reason was that Drago was using Dragons to conquer those that didn’t fall in line, which Drago affirmed with a “smart boy”.
@@XVX_Nickdabeast_XVX oh I don't remember that, thank you for pointing it out!
Drago started as a broken person. But by the time we see him in rtte and httyd 2, he's become a pure evil monster.
Nice touch that Death isn't Pure Evil nor Broken. As he's the literal manifestation of "Death", He can't really be Pure Evil, as Death is natural, he doesn't pick sides; and he can't really be Broken either, cause he's not there to exact revenge or get back at someone, he is only doing his job to take someone's life when their life is up.
Actively seeking to kill Puss himself because Puss has disrespected him is taking sides.
@@matityaloran9157 yes, but it does not make him evil. Yes, death was breaking the rules by hunting puss down himself, but he only did so because puss broke the rules first. He however is not impartial since he enjoys puss' fear. Just as much as Lobo was death taking phisycal form, to him, puss was the embodyment of an insult to all the people who valued their lives and still met him in the end, so he hated him in a fundamental level, that being said, he wanted to torture him before the kill and that is why he kept letting him escape, puss coming to understand the value of life was just a consequence. Long story short, Death is more pissed about puss not valuing life than about his disrespect towards him.
@@LuizGontijo10 Puss didn’t break the rules. Puss didn’t cherish his lives. That’s not against Death’s rules. And trying to murder someone for disrespecting you is evil
@@matityaloran9157 What i was trying to say is, the reason Death hated Puss was his lack of value for life but the true reason he wanted him dead was him having 9 lives which he considered breaking the rules and still not valuing even his last. I'm sorry if i frased it badly.
@@LuizGontijo10 Okay. I can accept that is his motivation but it still makes him evil
Good job on making Death neither. It's accurate because he's just doing his job.
I think Kai is moreso both than just broken. Oogway betrayed him but he seeked revenge upon people not related to anything Oogway created.
Edit: On top of that, he wanted the Chi of the pandas that saved Oogways life for the sake of power.
0:24 That Guy Scared The Shit Out of Me, When I Used to Be a Kid ☠️
Jack is a example to all cartoonishly evil villains
0:46 I love how serious Jack looks 😂
I can't really see Kai as "Broken" considering he wanted to steal the Chi of every panda in the village for his own personal gain and no other reason so Oogway stopped him, but "Pure Evil" is a bit much cause before Oogway got hurt he was a loyal and pure hearted warrior that cared about Oogway
Verdict: Near Pure Evil. The only thing that prevents him from being pure evil is that he failed Heinous Standards to Shen, another Near Pure Evil, who did far worse things than him with lesser resources.
@@ollie_raviollie As well as the comedic gag of everyone not knowing who he is.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 lol.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 haha
I love how Death is like "You know that true, I'm just doing my damn job"
YESS FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GETS IT DEATH IS NOT EVIL HE IS JUST DOING HIS JOB
If someone was a murderer would you be fine with it just because it is their job?
@@Marcuski31 He’s quite literally death. Death doesn’t murder, it just happens. Death, however, is a result of murder. But they didn’t get murdered by death, they were murdered by the murderer and death took them away.
@@domino-vi6ns Death is only meant to take people who are dead away, Puss is not dead yet Death is unhappy because of how Puss is so uncaring of his remaining life.
@@Marcuski31 Death shows up to remind Puss not to be careless about his lives. Puss being on his last life also plays a factor.
@@Marcuski31 u just elaborate why death is neither lol , he was teaching him a lesson , love puss so much but i gotta admit he was too arrogant and stuff
Shen only needed to see one single prophecy to commit mass panda genocide and he would have pushed it to extinction if he new about the secret village
Okay so I haven’t seen Madagascar but I agree with the fossas being neither, they’re just animals being guided by natural hunting instincts.
They were just hungry
Please make a part 2
Why death is not a bad guy is because he thought puss was going to waste his last life so Death decided to take matters into his own hands, but during their last fight, Death sensed that Puss has truly learned his lesson and decided to leave him alone
How does that make him a villain? Death’s gonna come back when it’s actually time anyway
lord Shen is obviously both because neither he needed to change his fate or he was gonna die but he was probably gonna kill those pandas anyway
I think lord Shen would be straight-up pure evil. I mean, he was just a spoiled brat, that sought to make all pandas go extinct because of some prophecy about what would happen if he stay on the BAD path. And then, he was so shocked his parents were terrified of his action and banished him from the city. And then, he wanted to conquer the whole of China and kill kung-fu warriors that would stand against him.
It nice compilation by the way, and very good. I am glad you have put Death (wolf) as "Neither"
He has two preventions from being pure evil, his insecurity of thinking his parents hated him and his love for the Soothsayer.
And the only reason he wanted to kill all the pandas was because his Ultimate plan would be stopped by a panda
Death is death . You can neither break nor it is a evil.
Fossas were just eating animals like all nature does LOL
human more evil than those fossas it just nature
@@nhatminhhoa the human race has been the worst enemy for the planet because of our knowledge and technology
no matter if we call it survival
we are doing it in the worst way to damage the planet
I love how Addicted to Fauna put Pitch as both. Most people who haven’t read the books would think he was actually Pure evil.
Tbh I think rumpel stiltskin is both. At the start of Shrek 4 we see he just wants to rule far far away but after that plan fails, due to Shrek having just rescued Fiona at the time, he becomes a disrespected, unloved outcast of society living on scraps so he wants to rule far far away even more so because he has ended up with such a miserable and lonely life and is fueled by his hate of Shrek ruining his original plan by rescuing Fiona
Rumpel was going to rule ffa like that since the beggining
I was also thinking Rameses from The Prince of Egypt who is broken but I don't know if he would count since he is hand drawn.
You forgot Megamind💙🖤
To be fair, he was a villain but he turned a hero
@zoorockf1 True. But he lacked PRESENTATION!!!
He's more of an anti-hero because he was portrayed as the main hero of the story
Red death is just doing what it naturally does.
Drago: I know what it's like, to live in fear. My village burned, my family taken. But even as a boy, left with nothing!
Red Death can eat fish tho, but it chooses to enslave dragons as it is too lazy to hunt for itself. Drago is slightly broken, he admitted he only wants power.
@@guitarist2463 yeah that's what the red death does, it has similar abilities to bewilderbeast so obviously its meant to control dragons and I agree that Drago is evil but that's because of his past. So he should be broken and evil.
@@jesseangreen9613 and he gained his want for power because of his past so he's still broken
Shen is not broken, his parents disowned him after he committed genocide. He grew up in a palace with adoring parents, he was the evilest villain in the king fu panda trilogy.
Yeah but he felt betrayed by his parents, thats all, he also let the soothsayer go
I hate him for this reason
How it fascinates me to see the "pure evil" in jack horner.
i still need to watch puss in boots 2. i wish i could have seen it in theaters😢
Watch it on Netflix, its soooo good.
@@addictedtofauna3838 it's on netflix!?
Rumpel is the biggest menace in dreamworks
Jack Horner is more since Rumpel cares for Fifi.
@@guitarist2463maybe jack has committed manslaughter
I'd argue Grimmel is both. On one hand, he went on a genocide of the Night Furies, but he also never had any designs on power or dominance over others, rather just killing dragons for the sake of peace for humanity - the same way all Vikings were at the start of the series.
Hé did it for the Fame not humanity
Mate committed genocide of an entire species (personally I think that was a total lie, he prob killed one and was like “I KILLED THEM ALL!!!”)
I kinda agree with you I'm going to change Grimmel the grisly to both
Nice
My villains favorites
Kai,grimel the grisly and chantel Dubois 😊
0:22,0:31 and 0:40
If I hate Grimmel for being cruel, do you respect my opinion?
I see no one defending the Red Death. Sure she was a giant destructive monster, but at the end of the day she’s an animal. A large one too so hunting would be a problem for her. And yeah she ate that Gronkle, but it bring her like 1 tiny fish 💀. Vikings came to her territory and attacked it. Not saying they had no reason, but if you’re gonna say the Fossa’s were neither, then Red Death is too for defending her territory.
Yes, but she's shown to have sapience and moral agency just like any other Dragon in the Franchise.
Drago looks so cool
The only one I disagree with is Kai, he became a Chi vampire the moment he learned he could, and was beaten by Oogway afterwards.
At best he’s both, but he was certainly Evil before he was broken.
Not really. The Chinese handwriting said he was fighting for justice.
@@guitarist2463 he WAS.
_"Big Jack Horner (Broken)"_
Jack Horner is the most stable pure evil in my opinion, the only broken thing in his character is his dream xD
the red death isn't evil its just animalistic
Not really. Bewilderbeasts eat fish at their size, not dragons. The Red Death enslaved and slaughtered dragons for food without a justifiable cause.
@@guitarist2463 the dragons chose the red death to be their're ruler
@@DringusHasDrp nah they were threatened to do so,otherwise the red death could unleash havoc
@@DringusHasDrp It has the power to control dragons like Bewilderbeast.
@@luishenrycamacho3159 oh yeah i forgot lmao
I'm glad you said the foosa were neither broken or pure evil, they were just animals
Fairy is evil and Rumpel is both.
Death: *just doing his job🙂*
For me, Kai isn’t broken. He was greedy for more chi, and fought oogway, sent to the spirit realm.
Jack Horner is both
Pure evil: wants to rule the world with his magic
Broken: when he was a child he tried so hard to impress customers with his Horner pies but they were more impressed at ponocioh as seen in his flashback.
Technically grimmel is both because he did grow up in a society constantly attacked by dragons then loved how loved he was for killing the night fury
He was basically just what if hiccup killed toothless
@Jessean Green he isn’t rewatch the movie and have no bias
Finally an accurate edit about these characters
I think Lord Shen is pure evil, I see no reason why he should be broken. He is the one who creates the broken.
While for kai, I guess he's pure evil too, caus first he was good, but he became evil when he found out he could steal chi, there wasn't really anything that made him become evil.
He was ruthless
Shen is pure evil, he commit a massacre against the pandas.
Why did you put #shorts in the title? This is a video, not a short.
Humpty Dumpty would be broken, the irony
He became good
Kai and Tai Lung I instantly knew they'd be pures broken. Such sad past
Thank you for saying shen is both people thinks Either a evil for the sake of being evil villain or a misunderstood victim when in reality he's neither
He was driven by fear of the prophecy but in end he ended destroyed other people lifes and his own in the process and ended up dying anyway that's what makes him a interesting character
Kai and Tai are broken
Shen I am not sure?
The Shrek Villains are evil apart from Charming
Shen is half half, his actions are inexcusable because there wasn't a reason for him to actually commit a genocide. But on the other hand, him believing his parents hated him is heartbreaking too.
@@addictedtofauna3838his parents hated him bc I’m pretty sure he killed people or something I csnt rememeber
@@santinopugliese1837 committed a genocide,, but they didnt hate him, he just believed they hated him.
Only Tai is broken for Kai he's pure evil he'd kill for power, but kinda broken to because of oogway, but he did it for the right reason to stop Kai from taking people life from power. Can't judge him for that
@@destroyerdog Kai's reason of taking chi because of healing! It was Oogway's fault for not talking it out rather than fighting him
Finally someone that understands Death is not evil or broken hea just doing his job
I like how Death not pure evil or Broken. The dude just Death doing his job but just is annoyed with cats having 9 lives. Death a sick villain though 😁
he's just a annoyed with cats having 9 lives but didn't value any of them because of their ignorance.
Image jack horner being stated as: *broken*
Kai isn’t broken, he wasn’t betrayed by oogway, he became obsessed with stealing chi, so oogway had to stop him. he’s pure evil
Oogway didn't betray him, he feels betrayed though in his perspective and was lonely for 500 years. Oogway was right but Kai still cared enough to atleast have reservations and held on to his amulet till the end. That's why I said he's broken.
Imo
Lord Farquad - Pure evil
Fairy Godmother - Pure evil
Prince Charming - Broken
Rumpelstiltskin - Pure evil
Fossas - Neither
Makunga - Pure evil
Captain DuBois - Pure evil
Red death - Neither
Drago Bludvist - Both
Grimmel the grisly - Pure evil (100℅)
Tai Lung - Broken
Lord Shen - Pure evil
Kai - Both
Pitch Black - Pure evil
Jack Horner - Pure evil
DEATH - Just doing job
Why people are saying death is not a villian? People keep forgetting he broke the rul. Death was suppose to do his 'job' after someone dies, instead he tried to kill Puss coz he hurt Death's ego
He tried to kill Puss because he’s not using his life’s properly. Death is Actully doing his job
@@Kuiper_Starz still he going against rules
First of all, Jack Horner is the main villian of puss in boots: The last wish Not Death, Death is an antagonist the main villian is Horner.
puss was arrogant and say he laugh at the face of death , death teach him a lesson and put him in his place , even spared puss life once puss decided to change for good , puss is still alive right now bcz of this
Don’t make him evil for trying to someone eliminate/ teach someone who didn’t value 8 extra lives ppl would do anything for. Everyone is supposed to fear death even kitty did who also had 8 extra lives
0:06, fair assessment
Drago bludvist is both because of his backstory
Personally I think he is pure evil because he himself stated that he just wanted to conquer the world, just using that backstory as an excuse for his actions as he knows he is evil deep down.
The reason I said no is because despite his backstory, he didn't care about anyone anyways, while Kai or Shen cared about Oogway and the Soothsayer respectively.
Drago just got laughed at
If a crowd of people laughed at me because they didn't believe I can't control dragons is because it's nothing they've never seen or heard before
so in that case Drago is the one who decided to take it personal
because his endurance is not that good
@@addictedtofauna3838 I have to say no to that
Kai could have lived a good life with Oogway if he wasn't so selfish with taking away peoples' Chi for himself
he put himself in that situation of betrayal
as for Tai Lung and Shen are much deeper than that
especially Shen
Tai Lung was always told that he'd be more than just a master of Martial Arts but the dragon warrior
after his hard effort to make Shifu proud
it never paid off which infuriated him
but then he was abandoned and left to die alone while someone else takes his place
Shen has a more darker backstory
when he was younger he dedicated his time to create weapons
which in everyone's perspective would help defend China
but his parents didn't see peace in that and called Soothsayer to predict what will happen if he follows his path
when he overheard what the prophesy was
he had a mission to kill all Pandas to secure his future out of fear, but permanently marked it
and it goes to him by getting banished by his parents and leaving him with the idea that they never loved him
and must have fallen into a river of denial
@@DVDTAPEAFKs I get that his ACTIONS were wrong, but Kai did it to protect Oogway (so he was pretty much already a paranoid psycho). You're right though, Shen and Tai Lung are deeper villains.
Bro this is good
Death is doing his job so he can not even count as villain
Dream work villains hit different
I would argue that the first one is also "neither". He is what to be expected from a medieval ruler, nothing special, not worse, not better than the average
Your right about death because death is just doing his job that people who don't like there lives or doesn't care about them
Drago Bludvist was borken the guy had his family killed by dragons
He didn't care for his family, he just wanted to use it as an excuse for his actions, he admitted it to Hiccup.
Rumpelstiltskin is both he did kill one of his henchmen but he cares for his pet goose when shreks time was up his his pet goose disappeared and he called for her when she disappeared showing he has a heart
i was watching dreamwork when i was young
Drago Bludvist watched his village get destroyed by dragons and even had his arm ripped off.