This was the first video I watch by Him, I might’ve been a newer fan but losing Ben hurt so much. Rest is peace Ben, and thank you for making me and many others fall in love with the comics
I think the Beyond storyline could be more. I saw this as a missed opportunity to explore Ben characters and truly establish him as his own character. Instead he became chasm. Don't get me wrong i like beyond storyline but they can do so much more with it.
@@SansoHumari mean its like Ben Riley is called Ben Riley and not just spiderman. Usually spiderman is just Peter Parker and he's the original so that title is forever attributed to him. Everyone else comes from him no matter what.
I feel like this is controversial, but Ben Reilly is a character Marvel has been lost of what to do with him. I like the story of him falling to tragedy, and though I think Dark Web handled him poorly, especially in the end, I think the Chasm persona is unique, especially since Spider-Man is defined by his trauma and lessons, so seeing a Peter without it, grasping for what made him him, is an incredible idea that I felt could have been explored even better, Ntm that the artwork of the chasm on Ben’s face is really cool.
I didn’t like the sad things in Beyond. How Ben’s story ended, separated from the woman he loves, and Queen Goblin made me sad. I hope they resolve that. Ashley was cool, and turned into another addition to Marvel’s vast assortment of Goblins.
I got to be honest seeing Ben Reilly back in his classic sensational Spider-Man costume brings tears of joy to my eye even if the ending was pretty bad
by god, its "the king of morbs around the globe" himself, yes you heard it right here folks, ITS MORBIUS, the half man half vampire, all legend, and twice the morbin' master, for he shall save us all with his awesome prowess of morbing.
I liked this run because it was super pretty, both Parkers were gorgeous in this. I know, quite a shallow reason to like it but what can I say I like my boy Ben. I really want him to be ok though, he doesn’t deserve the chasm. No idea why Kaine was completely forgotten. I need to see him again. I know it’s never in any Parker’s cards, but I really like watching characters heal mentally. Get better. And nobody deserves it as much as my boy Ben. He’s been through so much
Beyond didn't mesh well with me, and I think it's because they already did corporate Spider~Man (but I did appreciate the statement that Spider~Man can't be a corporate entity); one of the issues I had was how the story had both sidelined/disregarded Miles for no discernable reason, and had Ben go Through an identity crisis; this series would've been more appropriate as an Elseworld/What If? than the mainline series, because Beyond feels like a diss to those who had wanted the return of Ben
Dude, it almost seems that marvel thinks of Ben Reilly not as an alternative version of spider man, but as an alternative and even unluckier version of Peter Parker, and given Parker's luck that's telling al lot. Poor Ben, he doesn't deserve to go through all this.
The Spider-Man: Beyond story was one of the first ones I read when I got into comics at the beginning of 2022. Such a good story. Made me love Spider-Man more than I already did
I feel like Ben should become the Weaver of Fate and Destiny instead of that Spiderteen girl. It would further parallel the similarities to Barry Allen and Wally West that Ben and Peter have. If Ben became the Weaver, then he'd be more like Wally with the Dr Manhattan powers
Seeing Comicstorian vids still regularly pop up in my phone is always a shock to me without Benny actually around anymore RIP man. But on a positive note this story was awesome. I always loved Ben Riley as Spidey
This may be VERY controversial, but I think Ben Riley should’ve permanently become Spider-Man by the end of the Clone Saga. For one, because it would’ve finally given Peter Parker a chance to retire and move on with MJ, while also allowing Marvel to essentially soft reboot Spider-Man comics. And if they REALLY wanted to keep Peter around, easy fix: just make it so that Ben and Peter switch civil identities. Peter goes on to live his life officially as Ben Riley, and Ben adopts the identity of Peter (I mean, they’re the same person), making it so that new readers wouldn’t have to read ALL of the Clone Saga to understand why Peter Parker isn’t Spider-Man anymore.
I'm tired of how they keep tossing Ben Reilly to the side for no reason. They really need to let there be more than just Peter and Miles as Spider-Man. Bring back Ben as Scarlet Spider. Just update his suit a bit. Make it red with a black spider going from right hip to left shoulder. Drop the blue belly free sleeveless hoodie. Maybe integrate the hood to his actual suit if need be. Maybe even add a black spider web pattern to the suit. But get rid of the knockoff Spidy suit.
Recall was given to us to use it as we see fit. Just use it when you feel you want to. People will all solve these puzzles their own way. Zach, do you. Let those who don;t want to use recall do themselves. Love your content. I’ve been watching you for many many years. TY for all you do. 🙏😊♥
I hate that the writers said, in layman's terms, "We don't like Ben Reily. We didn't know what to do with him so we did all this to set up him as a new villain." He deserved better. They set him up so well and they just threw all his progress away. Man, what is going on there in Marvel? There had to be people knowing that the story they had built up to destroy was such a waste. Ben really deserved more love.
That was really really good. Ben is one of my favorite characters. I would like it if you read/voice act another Spider-Man story. Thanks for the amazing sound effects and can’t wait till the next issue.
Ben reilly is my favorite spider person ever and he deserved more 😭😭. Also can you do a video of new miles morales comics and the gwenverse comic. Can you also do a scarlet spider kaine video.
"What happens when Peter Parker gets so injured he cannot be Spider-Man?" Peter: Hey Miles/Ben/Kane/Flash/[Insert desired Spider-Person here] can you take over for me for a while, I'm not in fighting shape?
I wanted to love this I wanted to see this be a springboard for something they've tried before and has only worked for two books maybe three if you count Venom. There is no reason Spider-man can't do what Batman does and have a book for every Spider person as well as multiple books for different types of main Spider-Man stories. my ideal world would have Amazing, Ultimate, Beyond, Ghost, Woman, Scalet, Amazing Friends, Friendly Neighborhood, and Web Warriors to name a few.titles that should be in print now and covering every Spider-Person.
They already do that but spider-qwen, and Miles books dont sell and have never sold well. Spiderwoman also has a series and has had many. Peter Parker already has a friendly neighborhood series. Web warriors is from a poor preforming cartoon, and ultimate spider-man already had a run lmfao
So, lemme get this straight. Spencer re-united MJ and Peter after years of nonsense, hyped up their daughter as a Demon-slaying Spider, and they're together for this arc. Then they immediately break them up again in the next arc, and have MJ being the mother to someone else's children? I love Spider-Man, but holy shit, if Peter's life is constantly this depressing why would I *ever* buy his comic books?
Bro, somebody needs the time travel and let Peter know an alternate timeline that this girl is going to ruin his life. I guarantee you if he never talks to her, his whole life will be much better
Starting around 27:47 Gee lady! It’s like being Spider-Man comes with a whole bunch of weight and responsibility or something! Surely, you didn’t think throwing a brand on Spider-Man would keep those things away? RiGhT?! 😂
They need to stop trying to have Ben replace Peter. Didn't work in the 90s, and won't work now! How quickly they scraped the whole idea and is proof of that
Aw man c'mon :( Ben Reilly was a hero first and foremost. Then they brought him back decades later and did what ever they wanted with him having no relation to his original purpose. They just messed with the character, made him evil, good, evil, I couldn't even keep track of how badly they trounced such an incredible character. To say he did some really bad things first is a real disservice to his original story long long before he was ever resurrected decades later. It's also a lie. He was a hero from the very beginning, even when he knew he was the clone. It didn't stop him from being a hero even though he felt he had no life of his own.
I think at this point, you just gotta pick and choose what comic runs to consider cannon for different stories, cause lining them all up just doesn’t make sense
turning Ben into a bad guy...again? why can't they just make him another spin-off GOOD spiderman with his own new set of adventure and enemies, heck they did it to miles and gwen... love the story but hated the ending.
I sweat these guys do NOT use the resources available. Why not take Peter to Night Nurse? Or if there's a spider sense issue, surely some of the spiderverse folk know something?
Meh I beg to disagree. It was sad. Depressing. Ruined Ben once again after having him finally be a good guy and written decently. Then they took it away. They had stupid unlikable Maxine. They made Ben a villain. They just basically said screw you to every single Ben Reilly fan. Myself included this was a massive disappointment that had a few good moments but overall sucked so much. Why they gotta keep character assassinating Ben Reilly ffs
Ah yes the story where Ben got EVERYTHING Peter was SUPPOSED to have by now. Mainly a suit that is NOT MADE OF PAJAMA MATERIAL😭🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. The 616 Spidey Universe is such a TRAVESTY since Nick Spencer took over and then whoever the hell wrote after him...WHAT ARE THEY DOING😭
This was after Nick Spencer left. As a Black Cat fan, I cannot possibly hate his work, but in general I don't think the worst he did was any worse than Dan Slott's worst. Beyond was written by like 8 people, including Wells who took on Spidey after this, and somehow combined the worst parts of Spencer & Slott's runs.
@@Carlitonsp1idk that sin fre shotgun almost made my hand go through my head when I saw it and then the audacity to use it on GREEN GOBLIN of ALL people. I'd just like ONE consistently good run😭. I havent had one for spidey since Renew Your Vows😭😭🤦♂️.
@@no.1spidey-fan182 Yeah, I'm not going to deny that that decision was bad. I put it in the category of "I get what you're going for, but you probably shouldn't have done that." A lot of Slott's stuff by comparison just felt like it actively rejected the idea of progressing things forward without somehow making Peter act even more out of character. Spider-Island to me was the last time Spidey was consistently strong, but that was also full of event comic bloat.
@@Carlitonsp1 Yh I enjoyed Spider Island. I believe Slott shot himself in the foot cause he was a bit TOO ambitious😂. Seriously some of the BIGGEST spidey events this era got produced by him. Big Time, Spider Island Ends of Earth, Superior and Parker Industries. You dont really see much talk of anything else in the 21st century for spidey unless its infamous like OMD or Reign or a hidden gem like Back In Black. I enjoyed all of Slott's events to some degree but the smaller arcs like Big Time and Ends of Earth work best imo cause they're more contained while still doing something new and interesting with Spidey and progressing him more. I just couldnt get that much into Nick when I saw he put Peter back into university and reset ALL the development of Spidey and his villains
@@no.1spidey-fan182 I'm genuinely curious as to what development you're talking about when it comes to the Villains. I bring this up because Black Cat might have had some of the harshest character regression during the Slott era, and some of the most strongest progression under Spencer & MacKay. Jameson got his development continued. Plus to me, the reset to University researcher makes sense to me, sort of a ground-level science guy without the corporate overtones that just makes him Tony Stark-lite.
39:40 Striker or Stinger would actually be AMAZING names for Miles. I've been thinking about Stinger Especially for a while, Venom comes from a Spider's Stinger and Electricity stings🤔🤷♂️. Miles NEEDS his OWN name in otder to start his OWN. Its sad that he has to put his Government Name in the TITLE of his books or else we wouldn't know its him in reference to his books🤦♂️😭. EVERY other Spider Person got their OWN name...but Marvel is STILL trying to FORCE Miles under a legacy that spans 50 YEARS🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Miles is Literally a Legacy Character Living up to the name is the very point he exists. Giving him a new name isn't like Nightwing becoming his own person so much as it would be like Terry going by something other than "Batman"
@@zacharybosley1935 Is Terry active while Bruce Wayne is? Or is Bruce Retired which allows Terry to be his own version of the character aka the BEYOND version? Your right Miles is a legacgy character...carrying a Mantel of another Character who is STILL active ultimately making him REDUNDANT in any universe where he shares the name Spider-Man while Peter is active as Spider-Man. Miles was literally made to take up the Mantel of a DEAD Peter...putting him in a universe where Peter is ALIVE as Spiderman...defeats the ENTIRE POINT of him EXISTING Miles doesnt even have his OWN ADJECTIVE that defines HIS version of Spiderman. No...his government name and borough he's living in is not enough and frankly its kinda pathetic. Ultimate Belongs to Peter still because Miles never properly inherited it. And even then why is Miles the ownly legacy character FORCED to accept hand me downs?
@@JJPlayzGames You are aware that Ben Reilly and Miguel Ohara proved that a LONG time ago right? Just cause Spiderverse used that as his selling point...it doesn't change already established history that Miles is the LEAST newest alternate Spiderman in the mainstream Ben Reilly Kaine Parker Miguel Ohara And Every what if story where Betty Brant, Flash Thompson etc etc proved that already Every alt Peter Pretty much EVERY Spiderwoman outside of Gwen Miles isnt living proof of anything when it comes to that😭💀
@@no.1spidey-fan182 miles has Rabble, the Assessor, Ultimatum & more. Dude's got his own villains. Furthermore, if Spider-Man & the Scarlet Spider can exist simultaneously, if 2099 can visit Manhattan regularly, then Spider-Man & Spider-Man can coexist.
This was the first video I watch by Him, I might’ve been a newer fan but losing Ben hurt so much. Rest is peace Ben, and thank you for making me and many others fall in love with the comics
Peter's life is so messed up that even the clone needs therapy.
Damn that is really mess up 😂, kind of like father like son type of thing.
Otto is actually attacking Beyond Corp not to reclaim his tech
But to reclaim his hairdo from Maxine
58:24
That Beyond suit is so damn cool to me. That and the Superior Spider-Man suit are my favorites
Search for kaine parkers scarlet spider suit you will like it
I think the Beyond storyline could be more. I saw this as a missed opportunity to explore Ben characters and truly establish him as his own character. Instead he became chasm. Don't get me wrong i like beyond storyline but they can do so much more with it.
I agree and I loved the May and doc Oct detective angle. Cant he be an Arrogant Jerk Mr. Monk?
Maybe you should apply for marvel
I love the idea of Miles being referred to as The Brooklyn Spider-Man.
Yeah bro 💀
But too bad he’ll always been known as miles morales. Not Spider-Man.
@@SansoHumar dude he is Spider-man, get over it
@@jst1532 I think he means people wont call him spider-man, not that he thinks he isnt spidey. You may be right though
@@SansoHumari mean its like Ben Riley is called Ben Riley and not just spiderman. Usually spiderman is just Peter Parker and he's the original so that title is forever attributed to him. Everyone else comes from him no matter what.
They should add this "Beyond" suit in Marvel's Spider-Man 2. This is a dope design for an outfit!
I feel like this is controversial, but Ben Reilly is a character Marvel has been lost of what to do with him. I like the story of him falling to tragedy, and though I think Dark Web handled him poorly, especially in the end, I think the Chasm persona is unique, especially since Spider-Man is defined by his trauma and lessons, so seeing a Peter without it, grasping for what made him him, is an incredible idea that I felt could have been explored even better, Ntm that the artwork of the chasm on Ben’s face is really cool.
Ben Reilly deserves more love. The Scarlet Spider is one of the coolest characters in Marvel
I didn’t like the sad things in Beyond. How Ben’s story ended, separated from the woman he loves, and Queen Goblin made me sad. I hope they resolve that. Ashley was cool, and turned into another addition to Marvel’s vast assortment of Goblins.
100%
So True 😭
00 yes 00
And one of the coolest Spider-Suits
20:58 "Whoops! All Scorpions!" I'm dead, I love modern comics still holding onto a lot of old school campiness 😂
I got to be honest seeing Ben Reilly back in his classic sensational Spider-Man costume brings tears of joy to my eye even if the ending was pretty bad
Ben Reilly's the Spider-Man again? What is this, the 90's?
by god, its "the king of morbs around the globe" himself, yes you heard it right here folks, ITS MORBIUS, the half man half vampire, all legend, and twice the morbin' master, for he shall save us all with his awesome prowess of morbing.
I liked this run because it was super pretty, both Parkers were gorgeous in this. I know, quite a shallow reason to like it but what can I say I like my boy Ben. I really want him to be ok though, he doesn’t deserve the chasm. No idea why Kaine was completely forgotten. I need to see him again. I know it’s never in any Parker’s cards, but I really like watching characters heal mentally. Get better. And nobody deserves it as much as my boy Ben. He’s been through so much
Beyond didn't mesh well with me, and I think it's because they already did corporate Spider~Man (but I did appreciate the statement that Spider~Man can't be a corporate entity); one of the issues I had was how the story had both sidelined/disregarded Miles for no discernable reason, and had Ben go Through an identity crisis; this series would've been more appropriate as an Elseworld/What If? than the mainline series, because Beyond feels like a diss to those who had wanted the return of Ben
Dude, it almost seems that marvel thinks of Ben Reilly not as an alternative version of spider man, but as an alternative and even unluckier version of Peter Parker, and given Parker's luck that's telling al lot. Poor Ben, he doesn't deserve to go through all this.
I will NEVER forgive Spider-Man Beyond for Ben's character assassination.
Colleen and Misty's custom car looks like a 1970 Mustang Mach 1 with a 426 Hemi. You gotta love it when a comic book artist gets their cars right.
The Spider-Man: Beyond story was one of the first ones I read when I got into comics at the beginning of 2022. Such a good story. Made me love Spider-Man more than I already did
"Ben hold on, instead of using the bad guys helmet, lets go visit one of my telepath or magic friends to get your memories back." Cue credits.
I feel like Ben should become the Weaver of Fate and Destiny instead of that Spiderteen girl. It would further parallel the similarities to Barry Allen and Wally West that Ben and Peter have. If Ben became the Weaver, then he'd be more like Wally with the Dr Manhattan powers
i would be all for that
Lmao Hi Tevya
DC writers need to move to Marvel at this point😭
Damn, I didnt think we would get to a day where a spiderman would receive a cease and desist.
Seeing Comicstorian vids still regularly pop up in my phone is always a shock to me without Benny actually around anymore RIP man. But on a positive note this story was awesome. I always loved Ben Riley as Spidey
Kaine would have ripped apart Beyond and the Goblin Queen.
Ben is also very naive. The one thing Kaine has that the other doesn't is street smarts.
This may be VERY controversial, but I think Ben Riley should’ve permanently become Spider-Man by the end of the Clone Saga. For one, because it would’ve finally given Peter Parker a chance to retire and move on with MJ, while also allowing Marvel to essentially soft reboot Spider-Man comics. And if they REALLY wanted to keep Peter around, easy fix: just make it so that Ben and Peter switch civil identities. Peter goes on to live his life officially as Ben Riley, and Ben adopts the identity of Peter (I mean, they’re the same person), making it so that new readers wouldn’t have to read ALL of the Clone Saga to understand why Peter Parker isn’t Spider-Man anymore.
I can’t begin to explain how much I love this channel 🔥🔥😩
I'm tired of how they keep tossing Ben Reilly to the side for no reason. They really need to let there be more than just Peter and Miles as Spider-Man. Bring back Ben as Scarlet Spider. Just update his suit a bit. Make it red with a black spider going from right hip to left shoulder. Drop the blue belly free sleeveless hoodie. Maybe integrate the hood to his actual suit if need be. Maybe even add a black spider web pattern to the suit. But get rid of the knockoff Spidy suit.
Recall was given to us to use it as we see fit. Just use it when you feel you want to. People will all solve these puzzles their own way. Zach, do you. Let those who don;t want to use recall do themselves. Love your content. I’ve been watching you for many many years. TY for all you do. 🙏😊♥
Guess it was too much to ask for Ock to get some lasting character development.
I hate that the writers said, in layman's terms, "We don't like Ben Reily. We didn't know what to do with him so we did all this to set up him as a new villain." He deserved better. They set him up so well and they just threw all his progress away. Man, what is going on there in Marvel? There had to be people knowing that the story they had built up to destroy was such a waste. Ben really deserved more love.
I hope this and his original spiderman suit come to Marvel's Spiderman 2
That was really really good. Ben is one of my favorite characters. I would like it if you read/voice act another Spider-Man story. Thanks for the amazing sound effects and can’t wait till the next issue.
Never was a big fan of scarlet spider but Spider-Man beyond made my respect for Ben Riley greatly
Ben reilly is my favorite spider person ever and he deserved more 😭😭. Also can you do a video of new miles morales comics and the gwenverse comic. Can you also do a scarlet spider kaine video.
The Scarlet Spider Kaine saga was one of my favorites! I just like Kaine’s character in general
Crazy how Marvel just FORGOT about Kaine😭
This was character assassination of the highest order on Ben Reilly. I hate what Marvel has done to him.
Imagine getting downed by the U-Foes.
Man, it's more dignified to get beat up by Kangaroo.
"What happens when Peter Parker gets so injured he cannot be Spider-Man?"
Peter: Hey Miles/Ben/Kane/Flash/[Insert desired Spider-Person here] can you take over for me for a while, I'm not in fighting shape?
Fun fact according to Andy(bennys brother) on dungeons and Ale Spiderman clone saga is Benny's favorite even if he "forgot about it" 😀
Never thought I'd see such a wide range of opinions about Spider-Man - some love it, some despise it. I'm here for all the drama! 😂
37:04
J Jonah Jameson??? When did he become a prison guard??? 😂😂😂
I love this !!!! Just wanted to note that at 1:25:38 you refer to both as Peter instead of one being Ben. If that was on purpose ignore what I said
13:17 it's morbin' time!
I wanted to love this I wanted to see this be a springboard for something they've tried before and has only worked for two books maybe three if you count Venom. There is no reason Spider-man can't do what Batman does and have a book for every Spider person as well as multiple books for different types of main Spider-Man stories. my ideal world would have Amazing, Ultimate, Beyond, Ghost, Woman, Scalet, Amazing Friends, Friendly Neighborhood, and Web Warriors to name a few.titles that should be in print now and covering every Spider-Person.
They already do that but spider-qwen, and Miles books dont sell and have never sold well. Spiderwoman also has a series and has had many. Peter Parker already has a friendly neighborhood series. Web warriors is from a poor preforming cartoon, and ultimate spider-man already had a run lmfao
the voice acting of kraven was amazing from you
Man...they really had a shot to develop Ben and do better by him...
I love how May and dr oct have a thing if you ask me dr Oct is the best I miss him being spiderman also
I feel like ben has a great heart but he's not the smartest spider on the web 😂😂😂
Marvel writers just loves to dump b.s on Peters 'evolving' potential. Even his clone shows SUPERIOR vibes🙄
Cry more.
What do you mean by that exactly?
@@joshuaa7223🥲😭
So, lemme get this straight.
Spencer re-united MJ and Peter after years of nonsense, hyped up their daughter as a Demon-slaying Spider, and they're together for this arc.
Then they immediately break them up again in the next arc, and have MJ being the mother to someone else's children?
I love Spider-Man, but holy shit, if Peter's life is constantly this depressing why would I *ever* buy his comic books?
Bro, somebody needs the time travel and let Peter know an alternate timeline that this girl is going to ruin his life. I guarantee you if he never talks to her, his whole life will be much better
616 has been GARBAGE since Nick Spencer started writing😭
Like Stan Lee made Spider-Man a character about GROWTH but ever since the Raimi movies...he just HARD RESETS😭
You pretty well summed up why comics are dying, sadly.
Why even care at this point?
Ben getting hit with the glider into the desk and Peter trying to save a former girlfriend with a web...well last time that happened yikes 😢
6:56 “MJ Is CoNFused” sounded hilarious 😂😂😂
Yesss the Comic Book Story has arrived.
Yes!!
Captain america and black cat was the last duo i was expecting to see
After a year of going to the gym I don't know what music to listen to so I'm listening to these storys
god dammit Marvel, stop making Ben a bad guy. He's been through enough.
Loving the story. Need more skarlet spider and superior Spider-Man
I like Ben and they did him wrong in this but if you’re going to have a “new” Spider-Man take over for Peter it’s not ben. It’s SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN!
One of the best Spiderman storylines of all time
So in this story, Peter is Spiderman, but Ben is Spiderman™
Starting around 27:47
Gee lady! It’s like being Spider-Man comes with a whole bunch of weight and responsibility or something! Surely, you didn’t think throwing a brand on Spider-Man would keep those things away? RiGhT?! 😂
what's up with the sudden change in style of 43:55 ?
They need to stop trying to have Ben replace Peter. Didn't work in the 90s, and won't work now! How quickly they scraped the whole idea and is proof of that
Love it ❤️
Aw man c'mon :( Ben Reilly was a hero first and foremost. Then they brought him back decades later and did what ever they wanted with him having no relation to his original purpose. They just messed with the character, made him evil, good, evil, I couldn't even keep track of how badly they trounced such an incredible character. To say he did some really bad things first is a real disservice to his original story long long before he was ever resurrected decades later. It's also a lie. He was a hero from the very beginning, even when he knew he was the clone. It didn't stop him from being a hero even though he felt he had no life of his own.
I think at this point, you just gotta pick and choose what comic runs to consider cannon for different stories, cause lining them all up just doesn’t make sense
first 30 mins whoevers writing this comic has a fetish for injections of toxins/poisons
turning Ben into a bad guy...again? why can't they just make him another spin-off GOOD spiderman with his own new set of adventure and enemies, heck they did it to miles and gwen...
love the story but hated the ending.
58:20 “here’s Otto”
Spiderman cant have nothin!
Ben deserve mads respect
I just watched an almost 2 hour long video just to see what voice he would give chasm
I sweat these guys do NOT use the resources available.
Why not take Peter to Night Nurse? Or if there's a spider sense issue, surely some of the spiderverse folk know something?
“Captain Marvel like powers” considering she was captain marvel before carol id say carol is using Captain marvel like powers.
How do you guys tell what issue come next after the story I’m trying to continue Spider-Man beyond
Epic!
His appointment with Kafka? the Queen Goblin? the Red Goblin Lady?
1:39:31 Oh my god. Peter was cloned again... Peter, Ben and Ben..
Superior, Beyond, what’s next…Spider-Man: Spider to the Future, The Spider-Trap and/or Spider-Goblin
All of those sound cool honestly.
Make a better name then
Hey dude, would you ever cover Rogue Sun Volume 1? I think it's a really cool new book, so far. It's a spin-off of Radiant Black from Image Comics.
This honestly was a pretty fun run!
Meh I beg to disagree. It was sad. Depressing. Ruined Ben once again after having him finally be a good guy and written decently. Then they took it away. They had stupid unlikable Maxine. They made Ben a villain. They just basically said screw you to every single Ben Reilly fan. Myself included this was a massive disappointment that had a few good moments but overall sucked so much. Why they gotta keep character assassinating Ben Reilly ffs
@@Wortwort-Spooderbat Oh yeah what they did with Ben was horrible and with Dark Web I have not much hope for. It was different enough so I enjoyed it
So we just gonna ignore the weird hospital monster?
So this is basically vought in the marvel universe
The whole corporations using superheroes is a lot like 2099
This is such an amazing storyline i love it!
Can yu do one about anya corazon spider girl
They should make Miles the Scarlet Spider.. I mean it’s available right 🤔 lol
kaine is the scarlet spider
So the goblin queen was the therapist right?
Ah yes the story where Ben got EVERYTHING Peter was SUPPOSED to have by now. Mainly a suit that is NOT MADE OF PAJAMA MATERIAL😭🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. The 616 Spidey Universe is such a TRAVESTY since Nick Spencer took over and then whoever the hell wrote after him...WHAT ARE THEY DOING😭
This was after Nick Spencer left. As a Black Cat fan, I cannot possibly hate his work, but in general I don't think the worst he did was any worse than Dan Slott's worst.
Beyond was written by like 8 people, including Wells who took on Spidey after this, and somehow combined the worst parts of Spencer & Slott's runs.
@@Carlitonsp1idk that sin fre shotgun almost made my hand go through my head when I saw it and then the audacity to use it on GREEN GOBLIN of ALL people.
I'd just like ONE consistently good run😭. I havent had one for spidey since Renew Your Vows😭😭🤦♂️.
@@no.1spidey-fan182 Yeah, I'm not going to deny that that decision was bad. I put it in the category of "I get what you're going for, but you probably shouldn't have done that." A lot of Slott's stuff by comparison just felt like it actively rejected the idea of progressing things forward without somehow making Peter act even more out of character. Spider-Island to me was the last time Spidey was consistently strong, but that was also full of event comic bloat.
@@Carlitonsp1 Yh I enjoyed Spider Island. I believe Slott shot himself in the foot cause he was a bit TOO ambitious😂. Seriously some of the BIGGEST spidey events this era got produced by him. Big Time, Spider Island Ends of Earth, Superior and Parker Industries. You dont really see much talk of anything else in the 21st century for spidey unless its infamous like OMD or Reign or a hidden gem like Back In Black.
I enjoyed all of Slott's events to some degree but the smaller arcs like Big Time and Ends of Earth work best imo cause they're more contained while still doing something new and interesting with Spidey and progressing him more. I just couldnt get that much into Nick when I saw he put Peter back into university and reset ALL the development of Spidey and his villains
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I'm genuinely curious as to what development you're talking about when it comes to the Villains. I bring this up because Black Cat might have had some of the harshest character regression during the Slott era, and some of the most strongest progression under Spencer & MacKay. Jameson got his development continued. Plus to me, the reset to University researcher makes sense to me, sort of a ground-level science guy without the corporate overtones that just makes him Tony Stark-lite.
I hope that they take from some of the story for the upcoming Miles project: Beyond the Spider-Verse 🔥🎯
I genuinely did not think of Ben as someone dumb enough to literallt have his actions as a hero get controlled by a private company like sir tf?👀👀
37:00 is that jjj??
Awesome
I Own The Amazing Spider-Man Beyond Novel 9 As a Comic In my collection.
Interesting 😊
39:40 Striker or Stinger would actually be AMAZING names for Miles. I've been thinking about Stinger Especially for a while, Venom comes from a Spider's Stinger and Electricity stings🤔🤷♂️.
Miles NEEDS his OWN name in otder to start his OWN. Its sad that he has to put his Government Name in the TITLE of his books or else we wouldn't know its him in reference to his books🤦♂️😭. EVERY other Spider Person got their OWN name...but Marvel is STILL trying to FORCE Miles under a legacy that spans 50 YEARS🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It's the whole point, Miles is living proof that ANYONE can be spider-man
Miles is Literally a Legacy Character
Living up to the name is the very point he exists. Giving him a new name isn't like Nightwing becoming his own person so much as it would be like Terry going by something other than "Batman"
@@zacharybosley1935 Is Terry active while Bruce Wayne is? Or is Bruce Retired which allows Terry to be his own version of the character aka the BEYOND version?
Your right Miles is a legacgy character...carrying a Mantel of another Character who is STILL active ultimately making him REDUNDANT in any universe where he shares the name Spider-Man while Peter is active as Spider-Man. Miles was literally made to take up the Mantel of a DEAD Peter...putting him in a universe where Peter is ALIVE as Spiderman...defeats the ENTIRE POINT of him EXISTING
Miles doesnt even have his OWN ADJECTIVE that defines HIS version of Spiderman. No...his government name and borough he's living in is not enough and frankly its kinda pathetic. Ultimate Belongs to Peter still because Miles never properly inherited it. And even then why is Miles the ownly legacy character FORCED to accept hand me downs?
@@JJPlayzGames You are aware that Ben Reilly and Miguel Ohara proved that a LONG time ago right? Just cause Spiderverse used that as his selling point...it doesn't change already established history that Miles is the LEAST newest alternate Spiderman in the mainstream
Ben Reilly
Kaine Parker
Miguel Ohara
And Every what if story where Betty Brant, Flash Thompson etc etc proved that already
Every alt Peter
Pretty much EVERY Spiderwoman outside of Gwen
Miles isnt living proof of anything when it comes to that😭💀
@@no.1spidey-fan182 miles has Rabble, the Assessor, Ultimatum & more. Dude's got his own villains.
Furthermore, if Spider-Man & the Scarlet Spider can exist simultaneously, if 2099 can visit Manhattan regularly, then Spider-Man & Spider-Man can coexist.
Will the spin offs in the complete stories be continuing going forward
Who remembers when we thought this is the worst storyline we’d see
Where is Kaine? Did those two make peace?
Writers forgot he existed like they do with A LOT of Spiderman characters
Bro that's omni-man at the left corner at 37:05
It's Morbin Time