Milwaukee's New Line Wrenches vs Professional Tools Mac, Snap-On, Proto
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Today we test the new Milwaukee Flarenut Wrenches 48-22-9471 & 48-22-9470 vs what are traditional known to be accepted "pro" options such as Mac Tool, Snap-On & Proto along with ranking against the long list of entries we've tested already.
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Not sure why sorting bumped the Proto to the bottom when we got to the final ranking, with 9.13 that puts it 3rd overall. We added a card at that point to see the top 10 and updated the rankings correctly for those of you with our rankings. For its price it is a stand-out worth highlighting. Options have been added to our list of tools that don't suck: www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel
Milwaukee wrenches is not new, I got a whole SAE set years ago
@@jlrockafella According to Milwaukee line wrenches are an all new offering. What model number is your Milwaukee flarenut wrench set?
He's probably talking about some other wrench set. Not Line Wrenches specifically.
hey torque test, i got a good idea for another video which socket brand will slip first and don't
We've tested thier wrenches. Also finish around top 20%. Taiwan made
Watching this at work now, hope I can convince the boss it’s market research 😂
That’s how I felt when I was shopping for utility knives during some downtime im a paramedic so it should be work research😂
Toolporn... NSFW !!! 😮
Same but my grandmother is my boss. She gets Lippy ill have to give her a german suplex.
Plot twist... Alex is a software engineer.
Bring it to true action would be buying the Boss a new set of wrenches for you to use
Seems like the Proto is the way to go for me on this set. Sick of my Gearwrench flexing.
Agreed, sorry for the ordering at the end. Proto 3rd place, 9.13 points. $28/wrench puts it in a high performance middle ground there
@@TorqueTestChannel I was wondering where Proto went!
I switched to Proto for my flare nut wrenches after dealing with a series of cheap Taiwanese and Chinese wrenches. It’s a night and day difference. I don’t use them that often so I was hesitant to spend the money. Now that I have, however, I’m very happy I did.
Keep an eye out for Wright. They can be found cheaper than proto
Wright > Proto
Proto has always been an overlooked quality tool brand. All of my 3/4” & 1” drive impact sockets as well as large wrenches are Proto.
Wright > Proto
I have the old old Snap-On double flair but wrenches that my grandpa passed on to me. They’re amazing!
What grinds my gears: stickers on everything. To manufacturers everywhere STOP IT! Put the 0.1% you save from omitting stickers back into your products material quality.
I agree on the stickers to be annoying but they can usually be removed very easily with a bit of WD-40.
@@vibeslide I just bought a 15mm gear wrench combination wrench, acetone wouldn't touch the sticker residue.
@@vibeslide Where did they say they found them difficult to remove? You completely missed the point.
For the little tiny flare nuts I encounter (bikes), I use a Park Tool 7 & 9mm (unknown Taiwanese maker) and Stahlwille (German, obvs) 8 &10mm. The Stahlwille was AUD$80 (USD$50), but I use it the most often, sometimes on steel nuts seized into delicate aluminium calipers and master cylinders, so a good fit and strength over a small range of movement and size is important.
proto looks like the real winner when looking at price to performance, really impressive
Yes, despite being rudely ignored when our overall ranking ordered these at the end. 9.13, 3rd, for $28 a wrench makes it in a bit of a sweet spot.
Not even on the list
Thanks for confirming what I've been telling people for a long time: MAC line wrenches fit better than Snap-on!
I even mentioned this in the comment section of your first flare nut wrench video
Keep the videos coming 👍🏾👋🏾
I’ve had a set of Proto flare wrenches for 18 years.
Never felt the need to replace them.
I’ve been hooked on Proto for about 5 years now. Can’t beat ‘em for the money.
For those who don't know, Milwaukee just built a big factory outside of Grenada Mississippi. Maybe they are going to start bringing tools back to being made in the USA, They were on a hiring spree, if anyone is close to that area and looking for a job.
As far as I know (Milwaukee employee) they are just expanding the manufacturing of tools already made in Greenwood Mississippi. Namely sawzall blades. I will be transferred to Grenada when that plant does open.
I have a Snap On and it's excellent . Yes just a 16 / 18 metric . On the Proto , if you look closely , it only contacts a hex nut on 4 corners . I think they would increase performance if they change to a 5 corner contact , like their competitors . Combined with the close tolerances , it would rival Snap On . I have old Craftsman from the 1970's and it has 4 corner contact . But overall , the Milwaukee is a great value .
I’ll keep my Snap-On set but it’s really impressive that Milwaukee can hang with wrenches that cost 4x the price.
Cornwell has the best line wrench i have used
With flare nut wrenches I would say snap on, mac, matco, or proto all the way the Milwaukee is a ehhh just my opinion As a mechanic
For a professional, Snap On or Mac are undoubtedly the way to go. For a DIYer like myself I have to think into what I want to spend. Im considering the Proto set unless I can find a used Snap on set. Strange that Mac and Proto are under the same parent company but their wrenches performed differently.
As an apprentice in Australia (2006-2010), a common job was fuel filters on BA-BF falcons, notoriously soft flare nuts, over torqued AF from factory. I bought myself some Sidchrome (a brand known for being good when they were locally made) flare pipe spanners, used them twice, then got the snap on ones. No regrets. Flare nut spanners are meant to remove flare nuts, not flare out at the slightest sign of resistance.
100% agree. There are plenty of good alternatives to *most* things snap on makes...but I have yet to find a set of flare nut wrenches as good as my snap ons.
I bought Jimy brand about 15 years ago for working on rusty and overtightened Datsun brake lines, and yet to have a failure on anything that would have moved with a different brand.
Just did one today on my BA Ute, the fuel tank side nut rounded off with a Repco wrench. Had to cut it off with the oxy and replace it.
@kristiandavis repco used to be professional grade tools aswell. Many older mechanics have boxes full of them. New repco is home gamer stuff
Cornwell would have been a good one to try.
I love my Milwaukee wrenches. I got like four sets. But If I could do it over I’d get Proto hands down.
I love my older craftsman tools, but there's something about my S/O flare nut wrenches that really makes them a joy to use. I've taken off some REALLY boogered up fittings with those things, even after someone else has mangled the flats with an open end wrench before handing the problem off to me. 😂
Just a note, the green text is harder to read on your chart. At least on my screen. Great testing love you did the wrenches.
Just happy to see my SK brand still in the top 10 lol
"Professional Grade"... so it's a rebadged Chevy with more chrome...
Curious how westward does. I know back in the day (80s to 90s) My dad swore by them for the price performance they offered, and the full warranty. Not sure how they do now, probably like the new craftsman stuff hahaha Jet and Gray tools are other brands that Id be interested in seeing done
Great job again guys!
I have some westward stuff and never really had a problem.
are you ever planing on torque testing a hydraulicly powered impact
Anyone who's dealt with what they thought was an impossible task that was effortless realizes the snapon flare wrench is unbeatable. You will use it rarely but it will never fail you when you need it.
A snapon flare wrench has never ruined a fitting for me. It will spin the connector and destroy the line before it strips the fastener
Unless it's rusty LOL
@@BassManStrikes if they're like caked and flakey rust and arrent an 11mm but now exist somewhere around a 9.5mm then no. Good luck with that. Lol8
Never tried any of their wrenches or ratchets but I picked up a set of their impact sockets awhile back and really like how they do the lettering on them. Now would that inlaid white paint last very long in a mechanics bay, I don’t know but for a weekend wrencher it’s nice how easy they are to read.
Haven't used them for myself but I really like the design, because they're nice and legible like most painted sockets, however 1) the painted parts being inset makes it more difficult to get rubbed off (at least I would think), and 2) even when it does get rubbed off, there's still numbers physically on the socket so you can still tell what size is what. Seems pretty smart to me.
Use Milwaukee sockets and wrenches on a daily basis repairing tractor trailers. Don't personally like their pliers, but everything else has been great
Can you test the Milwaukee combination wrench set? I havent seen these tested among the other combination wrenches on other channels and im very curious! Thanks!
I have some very old Mac ones I bought at a yard sale as well as some metric Stahlwille ones I bought in Germany. I also have some special application ones made of billet 7075 aluminum that my friend made for me at the machine shop that are specifically for AN hard lines which have aluminum nuts. Cut with waterjet then finished, and all different thickness as well for different size AN lines. The Macs get the most use as most of my cars have had SAE fasteners only. The custom ones also get a fair bit of use and the Stahlwilles mostly get used on my 79 subaru although slowly but surely the metric brake hardware on that car is being replaced with a combination of SAE hard line fittings and AN hose. Just much easier to find around here. Metric to AN brake fittings are almost impossible to find where I live, and I really hate buying fittings online. It's less work to just convert most of the fittings to SAE. But with both the Mac and Stahlwille, if it didn't move it wasn't going to move without destroying the nut anyway.
Cornwell , wright tool flare nut wrenches next?
I’ve had my MAC sets in SAE and metric since 1988 and have really misused them with zero problems.
I just bought a couple set of ratcheting combo wrench of theirs for 79 a set, I'm actually surprised how nice they are. I haven't ratcheted anything yet, but they do feel nice in the hand.
Would love to see a video comparing different ratchet sets. I mostly do hobby stuff but still got frustrated by cheap sets from Bahco and the like, the ratchet would invariably break and slip eventually. The other day I had to tinker on a military vehicle and I borrowed a ratchet set from the Sgt. at the shop, I think it was a Wera set, 1/4" ratchet, bits and sockets. Wow, was it ever nice and tight, I thought I'd go and get a set for myself. €1100... yeah maybe not. Settled for Gedore which was spendy but still reasonable, and has served me well so far.
These comparison videos are invaluable when shopping... More expensive doesn't always mean better, and knowing which brands are cheap but good (enough) saves hundreds of €/$
I just got some milwaukee ratcheting wrenches YESTERDAY!!! Haven't used them, but they do feel and look great.
@Kaasmeester
I just replaced a couple of Wera joker wrenches that were stolen with milwaukee.
Haven't turned the milwaukee yet, but they feel good.
Still eagerly waiting to see testing on those new Texas made Craftsman wrenches whenever they come out
Please review gray tools out of Canada
Great video as always. Thanks for everything you do their.(try out the Texton brand)
Tekton doesn't have flarenut wrenches in wrench form
Good to know. Milwaukee for home & if that doesn't do it, I'll bring the snappy from work
They need undersized ones for rusty fittings, like a 11.75 for a rusty 12mm. These only work well on new or pristine ones that dont see winter salt....
I really wish their was a better selection of Brick&Mortar stores that sold tools .
How significant is Milwaukee's struggle on the partially rounded nuts? Many wrenches below it maxed out.
The average wrench calculates to a 7 and 7.7, it is ranked with a 5 and 7
Thanks for covering these, good info for further purchases! Keep up the good work! 💪🏻💪🏻😎😎🛠️🛠️
would love to see the crows foot style flare nuts in these comparisons as well!
While shopping for an electric mower I noticed torque is one of the main things they advertise. You gotta figure out a way to test them!
MORE EDC GEAR TESTS. Been watching y'all for a very long time
I have the 33" 4 drawer cart and I wish I would have got one like yours.
Milwaukee is professional grade and good for the price it seems like ! In australia theres heaps less brands around unless you go to some botique shops, or want to order things in without being able to see it first. I just wish more companies made spanner sets that were gapless and the full range eg 6 to 32 in a combo spanner. and not skipping
I scrolled past an article the other day, I don't remember which site so I probably won't have luck finding it again, not that the article would have much relevance to anything here, but the topic of it was metal 3D printing wrenches. Which now makes me curious, with metallic additive manufacturing quickly becoming a thing, and with metal blends definitely being a thing, I wonder if additive manufacturing could eventually find optimizations that forging, or even cutting sheet stock, lacks. I also believe that additive manufacturing will provide highly accurate tolerance, as there's not really a tool to wear out, at least not at the time scale that forge tools and routing bits wear at. Manufacturing scale may also be an eventual benefit given that build volumes, especially for 2.5D (stepped z axis layers, not true 3D movement), can be fairly small and easily stacked, while individual piece times might lack bulk manufacturing times could easily excel, and while initial print farm costs might be high they also don't need individual tools for each piece nor a wearing tool like subtractive manufacturing has; 3D printing farms for various plastic parts are already showing viability for this method of manufacturing scale, have for some number of years now. Give it another decade and I wouldn't be surprised if there's some brands taking this approach at a reasonable scale, assuming they're not stuck in the past and are actually willing to accept newer manufacturing methods.
I think I would lean towards the Williams based on the performance on a rounded fastener over the Milwaukee.
I got a Harbor Freight set that’s done fine keeping saltwater trailers brake systems functioning
Need to add Wright unless I missed it somewhere
I've run into several line nuts lately that I cannot get a wrench on some of the sides because it was previously rounded....
Leading me to NEED a looser fitting line wrench... grr
Is it just me or the audio is audibly compressed? I hear artifacts quite quite clearly. Otherwise great vid as always
I’m not a mechanic and just the other day I used a cheap 10mm line-wrench I had in a drawer to loosen a rusty brake-line…
Thrash !
Was better off using my open, old school craftsman
Why does the Proto disappear from the final ranking chart?
Proto is good. I use a lot of their stuff and even their cheaper brand blackhawk is decent
Test the new tekton crow foot line wrenches
Invalid test. Test results skewed due to addtional adhesive left on the Williams. 😅
You need good line wrenches, get the tool truck ones IMO or Proto.
I'm curious how the duratech ones would perform on your testing. They have really good reviews and the price is hard to beat at under $50 for a 10 piece set.
Honestly, at the price, the Milwaukee is the best prosumer option.
I have the Blackhawk set by Proto..not cheap but worth it...
10:20.. where's the Proto on the final list with a 9.13?...Proto should be 3rd..it's not listed..you have Millwaukee at 3rd..
Correct, that was a booboo. See pinned and card in video
Thanks for the detail!
I thought Proto and Mac were one in the same both under SBD
Been waiting on these.
According to rankings it looks like, if you're starting out and are regularly using them for work, they are a great option. If you keep in mind that if you are trying to truly max something out, maybe try a second wrench and or borrowing a snap on or mac, if you can only fit one. Although I wouldn't be shocked if the owner makes you leave your phone or wallet as collateral.
wallet every time, i dont play
I got a set of Anbull ratcheting flexhead flarenut wrenches, so far have been very very useful when I need them. I'm very curious though on what kind of performance they have.
Fantastic, as always
any idea who's manufacturing the milwaukees?
Unfair error: around 8:30 with the hard steel adapters you had some line wrenches facing the wrong way.
The jaw opening orientation is what is kept the same, the wrench handle either being angled down or up while at that jaw angle is a brand choice and differed quite a bit which was surprising. Some brands have the cut-out exactly center and then it doesnt matter up or down on the handle.
@@TorqueTestChannel gotcha thnx
Why isn’t Proto in 3rd?
I LOVE Milwaukee tools, but damn, I've been through 3 of their mowers in 6 months.......AND their string trimmer quick is amazing at small applications but for this spring bloom of weeds the poor guy can't keep up, I'm burning through batteries like a crazy person and the trimmer overheats all the damn time after more than 5-10 min of sustained use.
Great job man!
Im curious how their v groove wrenches hold up compared to others. Theyre in a weird price point.
Is Proto China ? Or USA ? So confused. I have them coming today
Hey the flex mid torque is out and available from acme(600ft lbs and 750 breakaway). Also I’m curious if the high torque makes more with stacked lithium. I have a 6ah battery if you wanna use it.
Available for pre-order*
Flare nut? Go with Wright.
Your Etsy page is sayin SOLD OUT. Is it just a set of login credentials to a online spreadsheet? Not sure how that can be sold out. Are you discontinuing doing it?
Fixed. Thanks for letting us know!
How about some SK tools testing🤷♂️ I’ve used them since 1978. I’ve busted some deep well sockets but I know I was abusing them not with an impact but over- torque with cheater bars and such. My SAE wrench set is rough forge finish my metric set is the shiny chrome vadnium. It’s my pretty set for working on motorcycles. 😏🤷♂️ Sorry, correction. I did see SK on your chart. 👍🏻🤭
SK just sold out to a Chinese owner... info might quickly become particularly irrelevant.
Do you have in your "to test list" Torx sockets and wrenches ?
Can you guys review Sonic Tools?
since mac doesn’t make tools can you find the original maker of it and test it against it ?
Mac has many hand tools made in the USA for just them, pretty close to them making it. Like Appve v Foxconn
when will you test capri, duralast, and other auto store gear???? best tools are afordable !!!!
Flare nut wrenches are used for one purpose and one purpose only. Flare nuts are generally made of a brass alloy that do not need the excessive force that these tests the wrenches underwent. In a nutshell, the most practical flare nut wrench is one with tight tolerance and ample length, regardless of the cost.
0.007" is 0.18mm, not 0.08mm.
I wonder how Harbor Freight's Icon would fare?
They dont make em
@@TorqueTestChannel huh. I didn't know that. HF dropped the ball on the that. Quinn is what they offer. Tekton stuff seems pretty good too.
@@Rick_Kn Tekton doesn't make flarenut wrenches either, though they just came out with crowfeet. Quinn here: ruclips.net/video/kkCIjl5aEoA/видео.html
Lol, no one in the history of, well history has copied ICON anything. Harber Fake ie:Icon is a almost direct copy from some other company. They have never had a original idea, Especially their ratchets. Their ratchets are a exactly the same ratchet Amazon sells for around 20.00. Right down to the same part number. The only difference is the Logo.
will u test kobalt xtr 24v rachet againest others and other xtr impacts
ruclips.net/video/zPoiTdy8f2A/видео.html
"Leave it on in protest." That's the line of the day. We can all stop trying to be funny, win.
What happened to PROTO on the rank list? Shouldn't it have been 3rd?!?
Correct. See pinned
Please test electric vehicle winches
I am curious how an sk (USA) or nos Bonney stack up on these as they seem the best that I have used
Personally I don't think the S-K flare nut wrenches are much better than old school craftsman. I've had both and if the craftsman didn't work neither would the S-K.
Doesn't Mac have a lifetime warranty.
i wouldnt support any of their hand tools. mikwaukee told me when i asked about warranty that its lifetime warranty but only for factory defects from manufacturing and not wear and tear
I'd stay away from the milwaukee wrenches regardless of their overall finish. The torque on rounded fasteners is just too low compared to most other brands. If I reach for a flare nut wrench, I want to know it's gonna grab that FUBAR fastener and give it hell. Not slip right away.
Do you hardness test your coupling nuts? Or work to ensure that they are repeatable batch to batch? An XRF could be helpful here as well. (By the time we're done you're going to comissioning your own hex nuts from certified alloy barstock with aerospace-grade heat treat, etc etc)
Boys the channel needs some Jeremy Clarkson flare man
when i took us good, say it’s dam good and you love it
throw more grenades around man!
Well, in this episode, Hammond crashed the Mac, sooo....😅
why never no cornwell......
We dont have a dealer around here, our last wrench episode had cornwells though
@@TorqueTestChannel damn that sucks
You should really trying to get some in all the rachets are made in U.S.A. I’d like to see how everything compares to to line like snap-on and if it’s worth saving a couple bucks .
I hate snap on and want them to fail
Why? They are one of the last great American company.
You crazy?
Some of their tools are proven to be genuinely overpriced garbage. (See their pathetic electric tools) and they are American like Ford: one reliable and now complete shit
Snapped
that is a REALLY old mac wrench!! look at the date codes a I2??? from the 70's likely!!! newer mac wrenches will not pop like that and grip even better
Better to watch you knuckle bust!