How MAC Made a New Wrench Outperform 100+ Years of Snap-On, Facom, Wera & More
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2023
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Correction, the Facom Anti-Slip gets a 9.33 total, for getting a 10 in performance per jaw thickness.
Today we test the all new Mac Tools RBRT Anti-Slip also available under Facom & USAG wrenches vs a few past brands like Snap-On, Proto, Wright, Wera & Stahlwille, as well as against its sister brand in Europe, Facom and their OGV non-slip wretches to see if we're just wasting our time with all these new wrench designs or if it really is cutting tech.
As always, the creator of this channel is working in product development for Astro Tools, who also makes wrenches. Always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool. - Авто/Мото
I’m a tool salesman and rely heavily on your channel for knowledge of the competition. Better, worse, or the same I believe in making informed decisions.
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Sounds ike something a MAC/Stanely tool owner would say
hello mister tool salesman. how the ever loving christ does anyone afford tools?
Half my toolbox tool selection is due to your videos. Been watching you since the beginning, keep up the great work!!
Really though. Him and Project Farm have helped a lot over the years. I wonder how much money I've saved
I swear by Project Farm. This channel, not so much.
@@MustangAficionado awesome👏
Project Farm hired a deceptive "expert" welder named Joe for his last video, who used the wrong rod and made a mess of his root passes (I assume on purpose). There was also that RTV silicone comparison, where he knew it hadn't cured properly but went on with the tests just the same. I unsubscribed, as he is too much the influencer who has gone beyond his own abilities/understanding, and his base is now too fanatical to notice the errors.
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Getting better and better with every video. Soon it's just TTC and Project Farm for all your tool needs. As a European I can't thank you enough for including these brands. 🤟🤟
@2000jago lol true but he is trying hard and he's honest. But you are correct he is screaming when talking
@@2000jago I've been a subscriber to PF for a couple of years and find his videos informative and useful. But one thing that irritates me is that he never answers anyone's comments with not much other than 'thanks for watching.' So bot like.
@@2000jago his voice can get annoying quick so I just skip to the graphs.
@@2000jago that was never a problem for me bc people tend to say i shout at them while talking... they never heard me shout at them haha
A buddy of mine was on the original RBRT design team. I got a lot of early prototype sockets as well as a few production sets. Still haven't broken one.
Bro you have the flex of the century. I’d hold onto those they will make a cool story to tell your grandkids
Ask your buddy why they thought it was a good idea to make it where you can easily break off the bolt(fastener) you trying to remove?
@@strikerj4810I don't see your point, if a bolt is on tight enough where it breaks before being loosened then you've got bigger issues than a shit ton of torque
1:37 oh my GOD what a throwback. When I was growing up, those brightly colored snap-on towels were the official beach/pool towels of the household. So nostalgic.
You guys should test some of the Japanese hand tools from like Tone and Ko-Ken
You guys have quickly grown to be my favorite channel! Love the content and the format. You do a great job of presenting numbers without getting too dry. Keep up the great work!
Loved this video! I never get tired of these wrench tests. There's a purity about testing a simple combo wrench in the same way there is measuring someone sprint 100 meters. Simple and straightforward. They should all be so similar, but they're not at all. Also, so happy you guys came around on Mac and started testing them. I must have poked you guys a half dozen times in the comments about their stuff haha...The downside to this video? This RBRT set is now going to sell out....Keep up the great work!
I have the Facom wrenches sold under Mac. I think they’re the standard ones though, I don’t think they’re the anti-slip. However I’ve loved them and it’s just nice to see that they actually do hold up to the competition as much as my gut has always told me they do
I have the MAC Precision Torque and they are the absolute best wrench I've ever used and I have used many including the old Flank Drive. Glad to see the data backs up my experience. If I were a mechanic in the rust belt I'd be trading up to the RBRTs for sure.
It's Friday, just had breakfast and have a coffee in hand. What more can one ask for ... the Torque Test channel.
Neat info as always. I'm glad a range is tested, so you get to know the best of the best performance, and a good performer at a budget price.
The rbrt line is so nuts. Working in heavy equipment I had a lot of really high torque fasteners, and standard drives would just round the fastener. Rbrt clearances are so much tighter and grip the fastener so much better and I have never rounded a bolt with them
Damn your channel is growing like crazy that's awesome. I've been here since y'all been under 50k or lower. Maybe even 20k I forget.
One of my favorite channels. Thanks for being awesome
I love my Irwin 7lw 3point/parrot grip pliers. Glad to see it being used here.
Dan the RBRT Guy is gonna be so happy and so won't I because I just ordered my set today from the Mac man 😊
I have some of the Mac RBRT wrenches and torx drivers and man I can say these things are worth every penny. Those torx have saved me plenty of times on bolts that where getting stripped and those things just cranked em out.
Crazy timing. I just got in some rbrt torx bits today for my optic mounting kit. So tired of those little tiny chinesium torx bolts lol... So far they've worked excellent for that task. Best when used to avoid rounding, other than rescuing something already rounded. In the torx bits atleast. The RBRT Torx T10 T-handle has been worth it's weight in gold so far! MAC!
Buy better bolts. You don't have to mount your optic with the cheap hardware they include.
@@jurban7998 Well aware. Thanks!
My Mac precision sets are the best wrenches I've ever used and have had techs of 40+ years buy them after one use. The finish, feel, and organizer they come with have lasted me in heavy daily use for years
The extra long matco ratchet wrenches are by fat my favorite. Everyone that use them want some but they are expensive
I am here once again, can you please test knipex raptor pliers in this type of test? From my experience they are absolute torque monster, but i would like to see how they compare to wrenches, vice grips etc.
Nice to see the line up here. been waiting to see you test the Mac precision torque. I have a set of them and like them quite a bit. I especially like the "blood groves" so to speak, makes handling and maneuvering them easy even with hydraulic oil running across the hand. thanks for another great video. well put together, good detail, systematic and to the point. 💯
I agree with your points, it's very nice to handle
They are the best feeling and using wrenches I've ever had.
@@jacobstrutner8232 they are fantastic, I love mine
I have the pre rbrt mac wrenches, which are now the current facom xls, they are unstoppable.
Great video and thanks for the shout-out! Many more great tools are coming soon!
Great… just as I finished upgrading my ratchet and socket collection and started to aim my focus towards wrenches. I was happy with the Icon wrenches… BUT as an Ohioan I’ve got a MAC box and if they’re THAT good, obviously I’m gonna spend the extra coin😭 you guys have helped me and my shop so much - this may be the first time you’ve convinced me to throw extra coin rather than save money😂
I lied, you made me get into dewalt for the DCF891 haha that wasn’t cheap, but it is a beast
I have been pretty darn happy with the Icon wrenches given their price point.
You should send me the Icons 😛
I've been using the icons for about a month in ohio. They rip and grip brother, I would recommend them to anyone
Hey Tyler, is Mac considered an Ohio thing? Mac is kinda everywhere in the US, but are most trades in Iowa preferring/supporting Mac for some reason?
Have a great day!
Great Video!!! Thanks for sharing. The box end on the MAC RBRT combination wrench appears to be the same as old MAC Edge design on their anti slip sockets from years ago. Have you tested the Capri wave drive pro or Astro Flank Bite wrenches? Keep up the great work!!
I'd love to see the matco hex grip wrenches next. I will also add that your testing on the wright wrenches led me to get an SAE set 5/16 to 1-1/4 and i use them everyday
I’d like to see Capri’s Wave Drive Pro tested. If you plan to do another round. I’ll gladly donate one of the Capri wrenches for testing.
Very interesting result, especially with less damage to the fastener!
Great job!
I'm also curious what type of results would occur by flipping the wrench head and applying force to the opposite side...maybe another interesting test!
Very nice testing I'm waiting to get my rbrt Mac wrenches still from my dealer
Awesome video! I own the WrightGrip 2.0. Very impressive. The box end test could have been better but let’s face it, I rarely use the box end so just merely interesting.
Mac's rounded bolt removal sockets are sold here in Australia as Kincromes Loc On range
The Facoms are also sold here in Aus as the Sidchrome 440 series. Flank Drive performance without the price
the one thing that kills it for me is the 6 point box end. in my current job i know several situations that just wont work. but those facoms on the other hand!
I wonder if you'd find the same hardness in different parts of the MAC wrench. Having different parts be harder or softer so that you could better control where and how the jaws flex would be an interesting way to get a performance improvement. I don't know enough about metallurgy or forging to say if it would be easy (or even possible) to produce, though.
Honestly, I completely love the Tekton ratchetting wrenches because of the 6 point design on the ratchet side. Those ratchets are absolutely PLANTED on a bolt head in a really awful spot, especially the 10mm heads on the back of engines.
They discontinued the reversible ones unfortunately .
I have the Wrightgrip 2.0 wrenches. Wish the box end would have performed a little better, but honestly they are still an excellent performer for the money.
Just a quick note, the box end of the regular snap on wrench and the flank drive plus are identical, the flank drive plus refers to the added grip of the open end!
Just picked up a set yesterday and right now my Snap-On Flank Drive Plus set is up for sale will no longer need any other wrenches but my rbrt wrenches amazing! MAC FOR THE WIN!!
Seeing that old SnapOn flank drive towel was a flashback and a half xD Wore that thing out as a kid lol
This video is gold. As a shade tree mechanic I really hate wrenches and hardly own any yet.
6 point sockets are pretty much all I use.
I have a set of the Facom non-slip wrenches. We get a lot of rusty nuts and bolts over here in England, and so far the Facoms have performed well. The only downside is that they only seem to make a small range of sizes.... 11, 12 and 18mm don't seem to be available!
That's weird, I have those sizes. They should be available from 4 to 41mm. Is it the 440 range?
I have it all in 467
Got the first set to come off my local MAC truck today, excited to put them to work.
My Dad's toolbox was predominately Snapon, obtained when he worked in a 'preserved occupation', on the Flying Fortresses and Liberators bought by the RAF in WWII. Apparently the first thing they did when a plane was delivered was depanel and do a loose article check, recovering spanners, sockets, screwdrivers etc. All of them were called up when the apprentice who was supposed to take their forms stating they were still employed in the work to whatever office it was, stopped off in the pub, got drunk, the forms were not delivered, and most of the crew ended up in the Royal Artillery (even with all the a/c experience) in Burma.
Not part of this but there was a topic on Garage Journal Tool Forum recently with a picture of a Stahlwille 1/2" drive "breaker bar" 24" long flex handle which had the largest head/fork area I have ever seen on a 1/2" drive tool (type with the fork on the handle) but the main handle shank is sort of thin
would be interesting to feature in a test some day,the name of the topic was Beefy Stahlwille breaker bar in the General Tool Discussion. There are a couple pictures of its head measured and compared to other bars.
I love the content. I would like to see who has the highest torque 1 inch pneumatic impact when you get some extra time. Keep up the great work!
the only advantage of the wera is that you can place the screw in such a way that it doesn't slip through
Have the Mac precision wrench sae set and a full Wright 2.0 sae and metric sets, didn’t know you could get better than that, impressive.
i think the most informative part was the carbon fiber wheels! thanks for always sharing your knowledge
I would love to see you test some Australian brands: kincrome, sidchrome, sp tools etc
Been dying for an updated list of impacts, interested to see where green works could be on the list
In my experience, many times my MAC precision torque wrenches open ends would spread and slip. I would walk over to my bosses box and grab a snap on he bought in the 70s and take the fastener off no problem. They’re decent wrenches but now they live in my box at home and I have a snap on set in my box at work.
Ended up getting some wright wrenches on offer up because of your guys channel
Hey TTC, I know this is half a year down the road, but is there any chance you can directly compare the Mac RBRTs vs say the USAG version, or at the very least, the Craftsman ones?
I think the Stahlwille is great buy in Europe. It is so much cheaper here. Super thin and who needs to apply that much torque with an open end ... and it has normal jaws. So it won't mess up fasteners.
Have you guys considered doing wireless job site fans like Milwaukee, ryobi, etc. I'd be quite interested in knowing who has the best portable fan for some quick ventilation.
Wild to see open ended wrenches breaking off grade 8 bolt heads 🤯🤣 never thought I'd live to see the day
How do you attach that extension bar to the wrenches when you do the test? Is it a breaker bar with a specific adapter? Thanks!
Thanks! I would like to see Mac compared to grip edge, even though they say it's the same.
capri tools has wavedrive,, matco has non slip , would be nice to see these evaluated against your product list so far,,,, awesome content unwinding while learning is a treat i seldom miss so when your vids hit i'm glued!!!!!!
Great, now I will 100% be buying these when they are on the Mac truck. Was going to anyway but when I seen that snap it was a defining moment for me. 😅
I've got a wrench test from a while back from a German magazine that takes out the human variable by using a machine to apply torque. In other words a proper scientific test!
I would recommend grinding a nut down to half the size for the closed end testing. Then pressing against a spacer, so you can fit it on the center of the nut, instead of the edge. This would imitate a rusted bolt, as there's less material to grip and can be very precisely reproduced.
I bought these last week and I looooove them
Great video as always.
A future video idea, Hydraulic impact gun. I seen one on Facebook and it was a beast.
Proto tools, easy to access and not too expensive.
Awesome information.
The precision torques get the job done, but I do run into problems sometimes because of how the box end is blended in on the one side (even though it looks cool). It can be hard to get a solid grip when that side is needed.
That's a great point
Do you test adjustable wrenches? I just bought a fancy new titanium adjustable wrench to take while dirt biking. It doesn't feel like it's anything special besides its extreme light weight, but I'd be curious to see how it fares quantitatively against its steel competition that I'd use in the garage.
I used to work on aero derivative jet engines. We had some really tight 12 point fasteners on the discharge of the jet where it connected to the power turbine. Basically heat corroded together. I think they were 5/8 wrench sizes or something close to that. We had both Mac and Snap on wrenches. The nuts were so tight we had to use a pipe over the wrench ends to loosen them. The Mac wrenches bent, while the snap on didn't. This despite the mac's being quite a bit thicker in the handle. Be interesting to see if this is still the case as this was 25 years ago or so. Obviously the fasteners were very high grade steel.
Now I've gotta mortgage the house to buy a set these beauties.
Thanks!....really wish the capri wave drive was included
i think the only issue with the rbrt wrench that wasnt mentioned was that since its 6 point it is less useful then the others in that way as a daily wrench, maybe if you have a bunch of jobs in mind that always has soft bolts and you cant fit a extractor socket or rbrt socket itd be good but i cant see the justification. aswell if a 12 point snap on or mac is that close on the box end but twice as usefull in work angle would any 6 point do just as well in this test? awesome video ttc as always just questions i think make sense
Awesome video guys!!!
I would like to see a wrench and socket test of the new Craftsman V Series made in Twian.
I've got the RBRT hex keys, and they work great
I have had a proto set since 1965, still great
I still have my original Metrinch set from 1991, has been the best wrench set I've ever owned, my GO-TO wrenches for most task,,,,,,, removes the rounded off nuts and bolts by pressing against the side walls.
I considered the Facom XL but I have yet to see the inclusion of a 12mm in that series.
Hey Torque Test Channel, that portion of a video that you showed at 10:09 was from Eric at South Main Auto!!!
Unsure if anyone has asked.. but I'd love to see the new Craftsman Overdrive which oddly enough looks damn close to RBRT
have you tried the new Craftsman V series combination wrench to put on your leader board?
any chance of the craftsman version of the rbrt line being bought and added to the ranking? at only 80$ a set it could be an absolute steal.
Would love to see Gray tools Canada in the mix 100 years of tool manufacturing
why I cant find mac rbrt wrenches on their websites ? any link ? thank you
For those interested you can get the new RBRT under the USAG line, same design, and everything. The lowest price I've found them for is 135$ euros. That is the full line with no skips, 8 to 19mm. The Facom XL is only offered in a set of 8 skipping sizes 9-11-12-18. Facom doesn't offer the skipped sizes, so you have to resort to MAC or USAG if you want to complete a set. Both in my opinion are bargains, the Falcom set will set you back 70$. I don't use 9-11 that much and occasionally use 12-18 so I just bought them from a different company as they will collect dust most of the time. Stanley B&D is such a weird tool company, the European offerings are better than their domestic ones. The antislip design is shared across the board, for the skipped sizes I went for the Stanley fat max anti-slip wrenches, they look similar to the Proto's, they also super cheap. link below for the USAG.
www.toolshopitalia.it/shop/chiavi-di-manovra/serie-di-12-chiavi-combinate-con-profili-speciali-usag-285-x-se12
How did you get it shipped to north America?
They do, I have 8-19mm 440 set here in the UK, Facom I suspect aim at the Euro market where the huh sizes get a bit more application because 'reasons'
@@alan-sk7ky that's the 440 short set m8. We are talking about the 440xl or precision torque line. Facom only offers 8 sizes(I own them). USAG has the complete 8 to 19mm set, with the same RBRT design.
Please test Capri Tools’ Wave Drive wrenches, if you go another round and also the USAG 285 X. Thanks!
Can you test the capri wavedrive pro wrenches?.. curious how they will hold up
I have these and they are great for iffy situations, but they are a bit large in the ends for daily use
Very educational, thank you kindly!
Have you guys tested the gearwrench 120xp spline drive wrenches?
dear torquetest: can you dig us up some "roller clutch" combo wrenches to test? I prefer them bc they wind back better than ratchet wremches, but somehow they are scarcely on the market. my current set is Kobalt, discontinued 2016
Those new wrenches are wild. Definitely on the list
Thanks for this video!
For a budget version of the MAC RBRT, check out the USAG 285X 12 piece. Just ordered from Tech's Choice. Exact same set minus the 6 and 7 and missing the case clip for $199.
Glad I have a RBRT set waiting for me.
You need to get Mass fabs wrenches on here
Great you tested Facom
Hey guys, I’m really interested to see a lumens test of Energizer’s headlamp series. I’m a tradesman and outdoorsman and have been using this affordable line of headlamp for a while and wonder how it stacks up to the stupidly expensive headlamps that are marketed to hunters/outdoorsmen?
You guys are the best!! thanks
Great video! could you please do a video with capri tools extraction wrenches and or astro pneumatic extraction wrenches? There are a lot of people saying they are as good as RBRT wrenches and flank drive plus. I have both one in metric and one in sae that I will gladly lend for testing just let me know!
Awesome job everyone. Love the Austin Powers reference lol