This legend got me back into this masterpiece after 20 years. And god dam I suck so bad but having so much fun. What an ambassador for the game just out of love. Much love grubby.
If kodo eats a banshee, what happens from the lore perspective? Can the banshee still possess kodo from the stomach? Does she possess the beast or the rider? If kodo eats an abomination, that is generally good, because it stops spreading plague. But doesn't it infect the kodo considering that the thing is made of multiple rotting carcasses? If kodo is a herbivore beast from lore perspective, how does it eat and digest other units? Why can't a pack kodo also eat units? They are the same thing (refer to Rexxar campaign). Can kodo beast eat away your student loans?
1. Possession requires a great deal of concentration. She can't move while she's casting and if she gets stunned, it gets interrupted. Therefore it's safe to assume that the banshee cannot pull of a possession while being digested by a kodo. And obviously she possesses the rider, since he changes sides and starts to attack his former allies. 2. Kodo beasts exist in a world where the Undead exists, and have therefore evolved to consume their rotting meat if need be. 3. There aren't really herbivores in nature. Every animal is essentially an opportunistic carnivore. If a cow, a rabbit or a kodo stumbles across a dead animals, they are known to eat it. The only reason they typically don't eat meat is because they are pathetic and can't kill anything. Also, meat is always easier to digest than complex plant fibers and proteins. 4. They've been domesticated and are only allowed to eat when the orcs want them to eat. 5. While kodos are massive beasts, their mouth and stomach do have their limitation. They cannot possibly fit your massive student loan into their stomach, no matter how hard they try. Unfortunately you're going to have to pay off your own loans, or atleast die so you can avoid paying them.
I finished the RoC campaign for the first time ever tonight, and Warcraft 3 is my favorite game of all time! I got hooked on multiplayer as a 13 year old and never looked back. Not sure if I'm going to get back into multiplayer, but it's been really fun revisiting the game with your tier lists. Thanks! And here's a random story about my first interaction with Grubby ever if anyone cares to read. When Blizzard were testing out a completely new MMR system on the test realm rather than the "level" system, I cheesed it by quitting 7 games in a row and then winning 7 in a row and getting first on the test realm 1v1 ladder with a 7-7 record. I was a bad player at the time, and could never get past the level 9 plateau and had like a 30% 1v1 record. I queue up again after taking a (now lost) screenshot of my next opponent. "gl hf" "gl hf" "who is this?" "im a level 9 player on lordaeron, who is this?" "i don't believe you. im the top player on the european ladder" (grubby) *3 minutes later after we have our first skirmish* "now i believe you" and i proceeded to get demolished I don't know why, but that memory has stuck with me. I'm glad Grubby is still making content, and I'm glad Warcraft 3 is still alive even after Reforged tried to kill it. Looking forward to finishing this video and the rest of your content. Cheers!
Dude thank you so much for this video. Im 22 years old, which means i was born the year that this game first came out, been watching a lot of your videos and streams and really liked this game. Now im gonna try it out for the first time and this is absolutely the perfect video.
The age of a game won't affect the fun you will get out of it. Reforged is a shame but the classic wc3 and expansion are still easily worth that money in my mind.
At 50:00 ish I like how you demonstrate with a slower (than pro) gameplay. It shows how fast a new/casual player is normally when just learning these skills, and not doing it too fast. I really love the idea of slow -> smooth -> fast progression, and having examples that are non-pro speed probably take away the intimidation that we need to do task fast. We need to get smooth first, and then gradually ramping up.
It's such an eye-opener. I made the mistake of practicing speed without understanding why I do the build orders. Better to learn by doing slowly and get faster naturally.
I played from 2003-2011, before SC2 came out. After seeing this video I have to buy reforged keys and grind again, UD isn't as bad now I think. Thanks! (this post was paid and written by GrubbyTalks) :)
I'm actually shocked to learn that one of the goats of this game didnt really use custom keys. I remember discovering you could do it when I was struggling on the ladder, and I did something very similar to grid system with 'Q' 'W' 'E' 'R' being my hotkeys for basically everything, including macro, and my skill level, rank, and control of everything sky rocketed. I thought this must be how the pros play.
This is amazing information! Thank you for the daily inspitation to play WC3 again. I have to watch your fights frame by frame to keep up. Please keep sharing that wisdom!! Love from Australia!
I literally downloaded it with my 15 year old key two days ago :D but after i heard they changed polish voice lines with reforged im really hesitant to open it again
I used to play DotA 1 with the Numpad Item Hotkeys… haha. It was insanity, and I was slower than the other players, but when I started I made it work, because of course I started with Warcraft 3’s Melee Default Hotkeys. Then I copied the Hotkeys other people did in the LAN, Alt+QWASZX, in DotA 1. When Dota 2 came around, I copied Dendi’s keys (with a few modifications like 2 and 5.), Legacy Keys from DotA 1 and all, because I hated needing Alt key modifier for my items all the time.
I like you Grubby. You're an allright guy *thumbs up* I like how you said everything that needed to be said about game versions without superimposing your opinion on others but still saying it all for those with ears to hear it. It is a skill and an artform and I wish I was fraction as good as you are at it.
Using WC3 to get a feel for RTS before the new games come out but wow, does it feel good! Everything combines into a great experience every time I play. Evergreen!
Ive alwasy wanted to play, ive played warcraft since i was 7 or 8 with my brothers and I'd always play custom games like footies, x hero siege, or just amass a giant army of frost wryms against an AI and lose. Now that I'm 18 with a brain and love strategy games, mtg, mobas, boardgames, I'm excited to get into warcraft and get good :D. Thanks so much for the video, love the content by the way! You got me back into the game last year and I watch almost every video on both channels :D
I've been practicing with build orders (bloody beginner guides ofc) for the first time in my life this week. This video couldn't have been made at a better time! :D Thanks Grubs
GRUBBY! Thank you so much for making this video, I didn't know I got access to Reforged and it's multiplayer with my old CD keys, I bought the Battle Chest 10 years ago and wasn't ever really able to get into the multiplayer, excited to start now!
I have been playing since the beginning of wc3 watching my older bros play it when it came out. Never was brave enough to go to the servers but now am feeling like working up to it after getting some better hot keys.
This is EXACTLY the kind of video I was looking for. Even if I discovered your main channel durin second half of the pandemic, your tier list arc just popped back again in my yt home, and I was thinking "mmhm maybe I could start playing wc3 online, i never tried that" but as a new player is REALLY hard to understand what to do in order to survive an online match, even a lowest rank one. I still get rekt by ai, imagine a real player... Thanks for your help!
You keep doing that man.. I dont even know how to express my gratituide for all hard work you put into making those videos, helping us to get into W3, and in general, all RTS genra. From my end I can only confirm that it works and you are a great teacher. I already went from being smashed by easy AI to win with insane and 2v1 vs easy xd please, keep that coming, want to play ladder but I wont without, a best in class, preparations beforehand
Я довольно хорошо знаю и помню основы игры PvP 1:1 в варкрафт, не играю уже много лет, но с удовольствием слушаю это видео, потому что я люблю эту игру. Варкрафт 3 повлиял на мое детство, вдохновлял меня много лет своим миром и геймплеем. Так я с детства полюбил жанр стратегий, открыв целый мир игр. Потом была эпоха кастомных карт. Это не описать парой слов, но нам с друзьями было невероятно весело ночами зависать в варкрафте. Затем однажды я задался целью не просто играть в варкрафт, а научиться хорошо играть 1:1 матчи. И я усердно учился, и мой навык быстро рос. Естественно, я смотрел все видео по варкрафту, и наткнулся на Grubby. Мужик, ты просто лучший. Ты не только профессиональный игрок, тебя просто приятно слушать. Ты всегда говоришь так жизнеутверждающе, с огнем в глазах. И я очень рад, что ты до сих пор не бросаешь нашу игру. Игре столько лет, но ты все еще продолжаешь развивать коммьюнити, привлекать новых игроков и учить их. Мне очень нравится коммьюнити варкрафта. Уверен, для многих это игра детства, навсегда занявшая особое место в сердце, как и для меня. Всем отличного дня, работяги, культисты и светлячки! 🫡
Hey Grubby, this video and your other learning content has inspired me to get back into WC3 and I would love to play 1v1s more. It would be amazing if you created a beginner build order video for each race, I'm sure it would encourage even more people to get into the versus scene which builds the community!
YES! after so much bronze league heroes and months of following your channel, i finally have the courage to try wc3 multiplayer, i have hundreds of hours in single player and campaigns or custom maps, but thanks to your channel and how it makes the meta more accesible to noobs like me i think i will finally try wc3 LOK TAR!
19:0023:00 - Orc is easiest to learn but hardest to master (require a lot of micro on units later on, for example to beat elf) - Elf is not that easy to learn but after you learn the basics as elf you snowball in low lv mmr, and the higher mmr is the harder it is to you and because most of people are not pro players this is the best race for beginners to feel fulfilment unless it's vs rushy UD - Human is the hardest to learn and is hard to master (require a lot of micro early on, later on it's full focus on macro. Their win condition compared to other races is unit composition, counters etc and thats unique, gain the most from game knowledge like timeing pushes, tricks etc) - Undead easy to learn hard to master. Punished by small mistakes, meta is brutal. But if you don't do mistakes on map movement you can win just by having heroes alone.
Bought the game December of last year (after playing it pirated since like 2004) and I've been having fun playing the campaign again, and some maps against the AI. I even installed a modified AI that is smarter and better than Blizzard's. It's pretty fun. I haven't played against other people at all though. I feel like I'm not good enough or ready yet. Maybe one day.
Ha, amazing timing... I've just discovered your alt channel and those tier vids made me try out some qvw vs the conputer. Gotta love being able to play classic W3 at 3440x1440
Hey, perfect timing! Watching some of your matches and tier lists convinced me to download and replay the campaign, was thinking of maybe trying my hand at multiplayer in the future. :)
Funny enough, I think noobs to Wc3 don't like upkeep, while veterans/old players really understand it and start to love it. Like you said Grubby, it makes you really think differently about how you're building your army, compared to most games where bigger army = better army. It's an additional layer of complexity, since the macro side of Wc3 is relatively so simple!
I wasn't aware that there were still uploaded files of the last patch before blizzard went all "scorched earth" on wc3... i need to find that patch!! I absolutely loved the added 12 player colors for custom games and whathaveyou.
I just started WC3 campaign for the first time about a week ago, so this video is perfect for me as someone who hasn't the first clue about multiplayer. Also edit to your comment about gfx, even as a modern player of this old game I much prefer the original gfx, they are dated as you said but also appear much nicer and clearer, as well as having that original artistic inspiration intact.
I play mostly RT and AT random. Learning the game was tough but now the game is so diverse for me I play all the time still and stay fresh. I thought I would pick a race by now but I love them all. Human is my weakest but that doesn’t even matter unless my opponent is the same or better than me.
i think it's easy to overburden ones self as a beginner with all these technical things and all the cool shit everyone else does. there are just a few things i think that would help a beginner in an rts game, don't play online the first thing you do if you have a choice, you want to learn the basics in a low stake environment, against cpu is what i would recommend, that is something i think most gamers are used to anyways because most single player games are like that, and it's there for a reason in pvp games, use it. mess around, lose, do some silly stuff, get aquainted with the mechanics and the cpu is there to basically test you. now the things i think that is important to get down early for your own enjoyment especially in an rts game is hotkeys, making control groups and using hotkeys, you want to be able to walk around with your hero and your units without feeling like training units and creating things in your base is a hindrance to you where you constantly camera pan with your mouse and mouseclick on things to create units etc, so hotkeys allows you to do that, using hotkeys to train units let's you see your squad or your unit still and it goes really fast, being able to just double click on a hotkey can let you jump between looking at your hero to your base and back to your hero again which is such a relief in how little effort it takes to go fix something quickly and be back to your hero. see it like movement in a shooter game, you're always clicking buttons to move around, your hotkeys should be used roughly the same way so hotkeys are that fundamental to the game, it's to allow you to move around and do stuff with your units and keep much of your focus on them because they are the active component to the game, if you're just looking at your base it's basically watching grass grow. as for what you should be aiming to do to orient your gameplay around, it's to kill the enemy as fast as possible, this means as early as you can is to try and beat your opponent, everything else trickles down from that, this means you need to know what they are doing in order for you to know if you can kill them and the only way you will start to learn when you can do this is to attack them as early as possible and from there you will figure out how you can do that and what you need to do to be able to do that, so for example you can push out a hero really fast and just go over there and kill all their workers and win pretty much, but more often than not it won't be that easy and that's when you learn to level up your hero and how to creep which will teach you what you need to do in order to kill creeps by failing and learning and when you've done that you can now try and kill the opponent again because now the basic things that saved the enemy the first time you tried just rushing over there is gonna be less of an issue, so you have more lethality in your ability to destroy someone elses base but they also have more ability to defend their base, so it kinda goes on and on til someone wins. but essentially the longer the game goes the more difficult and tricky the game gets, more units, more upgrades, more abilities etc, that's why attacking early is better because it's like a tree that branches out in possibilities in how they can survive and beat you and you want to leave as little possibilities you can to the enemy. now what makes WC3 special amongst RTS games, it's the army size, it's constantly skirmishing, with typically a rather few units in comparison to most other RTS games, it even tries to hinder you from amassing too many units by having this upkeep mechanic that tries to incentivize you to attack early or keep your army size lower, the other part is the hero obviously but something very special about WC3 is how actually strong the hero is, you will be pretty much shooting yourself in the foot if you choose to play without a hero. TLDR, if you're a beginner play against CPU, learn hotkeys and try to kill the enemy as fast as possible, and when the CPU is too easy play online against others.
I really liked WC3 back in the day… but was so disappointed about Reforged that even decided not to buy it… honestly, I’m more of SC guy… but still… don’t understand why WC3 reforged couldn’t be like SC remastered (both in price and (non-)changes implemented)? It was an older game
I'd love to play Warcraft 3 TFT, but my friend at the time lost my copy. And also I get intimidated by pvp matches, but they are so fun to watch. And win vicariously hahah
After CD key stuff I tried to find my cd of RoC from almost 20 years ago just for fun of it and I fucking found it. It made me so happy for nostalgia sake. It had no cd key on it tho but so many memories floded my mind ... thanks I would never go down this rabbit hole if it wasnt for this video
Such a good video, I have an old CD key and I’ve been wanting to get back into the game this is such good information tyty! (Make a new Night Elf beginners guide tho ❤😂)
Perfect video for me. I was like "B" tier, in RoC / early TFT. I made EU 1v1 top 500 very briefly which I guess would have put me in the top 2 or 3% at the time, but I was still miles off the true top players. I've also not touched the game for nearly 20 years and honestly if I played against players today I'd be lucky to get out the bottom 10%, but at least tells me what I'd need to know if I was to go get my butt kicked by people with many more reps than me !
38:18 I think it's less "this has to be a good strategy" and more "the good strategy is properly judging fights or predicting outcomes, which I can't do yet as a new player, so I have to default to playing safe." A beginner doesn't know who wins a fight, but can safely assume the beginner is at a disadvantage just by being new so fighting is bad for them. Obviously losing fights is just part of the limit testing necessary for learning, but the initial instinct is always not to. Plus fully teching up theoretically has the added benefit of learning what all the units and upgrades do (which should be reserved for the no opponent games before facing even the bots).
I used to love playing TFT back in the day...but now I suck haha and forgot all the build orders. Watching Grubbys videos everyday make me want to play again but man its not so easy and feels like a time dump. I will be searching 1v1 in Asia so leggo
Thank you sir for explaining me how can i still play my old wc3 cd copy this day. I dont say i will, 30gb is too much for my 15 yo laptop but maybe few years from now i will, when childrens will move out finally:-)
the best game ever made, the graphics tho dated are still powerful and beautiful, perfect color combos and textures. Everything from the music, game art, voice actors for units/heros are amazing. game mechanics and how the game is played are both super deep and dynamic. even if youve never played i recommend doing so, there are surprisingly a decent amount of lower killed/new players in the community as of late. the game is perfect, timeless. GET IN. (reforged graphics suck-somehow)
I asked blizz support 2 years ago about what he says at 6:38 and they failed to tell me how to launch WC3 without buying reforged, twice, the second reply simply saying that the first person who replied to me was correct... which wasn't the case at all.
The last version that's still pretty much the old version is 1.29 (patches after this require Bonjour for LAN etc and it's clunky), I have it side by side with my paid Reforged. NOTE: The old editor will crash upon opening it if you open the Reforged editor. You'll need to go and remove the Registry keys associated with the editor to access the older editor (which wipes all settings in both editors).
I disconnect from every single BNet ranked game I play. I just got 1gig speed fiber optic but it happened with cable before too. I've spent hours searching for solutions and tried many things. Ready to give up. Please help :)
Personally I've found using custom grid hotkeys very useful because as opposed to Starcraft 2 that displays the hotkeys in the icon, Wc3 doesn't display shit. So you can't learn the "native" hotkeys without mousing over the icons over and over.
How are the resources that people get back from canceling a building under construction calculated? When is it better to cancel a building under attack right away or wait to cancel at the very last second?
hmm , i think best beginner race is human, a warrior melee a ranged a healer, a flying machine etc units are simple for understand, good defense, and heros are strong etc.
Hey! I'm starting to play Warcraft III again because when I played as a child, I literally just acted like a God in custom mode, not knowing what to do. This time I want to actually figure out how this game works
I started playing Dota 2 because of Grubby, I played only 3 months, but without him I would never tried it. It would be funny if I started playing W3 as well, but.. I am not really in my RTS phase.
This legend got me back into this masterpiece after 20 years. And god dam I suck so bad but having so much fun. What an ambassador for the game just out of love. Much love grubby.
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If kodo eats a banshee, what happens from the lore perspective? Can the banshee still possess kodo from the stomach? Does she possess the beast or the rider?
If kodo eats an abomination, that is generally good, because it stops spreading plague. But doesn't it infect the kodo considering that the thing is made of multiple rotting carcasses?
If kodo is a herbivore beast from lore perspective, how does it eat and digest other units?
Why can't a pack kodo also eat units? They are the same thing (refer to Rexxar campaign).
Can kodo beast eat away your student loans?
1. Possession requires a great deal of concentration. She can't move while she's casting and if she gets stunned, it gets interrupted. Therefore it's safe to assume that the banshee cannot pull of a possession while being digested by a kodo. And obviously she possesses the rider, since he changes sides and starts to attack his former allies.
2. Kodo beasts exist in a world where the Undead exists, and have therefore evolved to consume their rotting meat if need be.
3. There aren't really herbivores in nature. Every animal is essentially an opportunistic carnivore. If a cow, a rabbit or a kodo stumbles across a dead animals, they are known to eat it. The only reason they typically don't eat meat is because they are pathetic and can't kill anything. Also, meat is always easier to digest than complex plant fibers and proteins.
4. They've been domesticated and are only allowed to eat when the orcs want them to eat.
5. While kodos are massive beasts, their mouth and stomach do have their limitation. They cannot possibly fit your massive student loan into their stomach, no matter how hard they try. Unfortunately you're going to have to pay off your own loans, or atleast die so you can avoid paying them.
the real questions
The banshee has to posess the rider, not the kodo, and she can't do that when eaten.
If Tauren eat Kodo (as stated in Rexxar campaign) do they also eat the Devoured enemy or do they have to fight an enemy while prepping their meal?
How does a horse digest chickens and ducks if its a herbivore irl?
I finished the RoC campaign for the first time ever tonight, and Warcraft 3 is my favorite game of all time! I got hooked on multiplayer as a 13 year old and never looked back. Not sure if I'm going to get back into multiplayer, but it's been really fun revisiting the game with your tier lists. Thanks!
And here's a random story about my first interaction with Grubby ever if anyone cares to read. When Blizzard were testing out a completely new MMR system on the test realm rather than the "level" system, I cheesed it by quitting 7 games in a row and then winning 7 in a row and getting first on the test realm 1v1 ladder with a 7-7 record. I was a bad player at the time, and could never get past the level 9 plateau and had like a 30% 1v1 record. I queue up again after taking a (now lost) screenshot of my next opponent.
"gl hf"
"gl hf"
"who is this?"
"im a level 9 player on lordaeron, who is this?"
"i don't believe you. im the top player on the european ladder" (grubby)
*3 minutes later after we have our first skirmish*
"now i believe you"
and i proceeded to get demolished
I don't know why, but that memory has stuck with me. I'm glad Grubby is still making content, and I'm glad Warcraft 3 is still alive even after Reforged tried to kill it. Looking forward to finishing this video and the rest of your content. Cheers!
Wait till you complete tft campaign, makes me want to reinstall
Dude thank you so much for this video. Im 22 years old, which means i was born the year that this game first came out, been watching a lot of your videos and streams and really liked this game. Now im gonna try it out for the first time and this is absolutely the perfect video.
Fantastic video, can't emphasize enough how important this is! well done
Yes, I did consider trying out WC3 as a brand new player, but then I saw the 50 USD price tag on a 22 year old game.
The age of a game won't affect the fun you will get out of it. Reforged is a shame but the classic wc3 and expansion are still easily worth that money in my mind.
Somebody is ripping you off by about 20 USD
What sort of scam website have you looked up that price at? It's 30 usd on original battle net. Not defending reforged in any way, just curious
as it is a Blizard game, the yarrr option is morally justifiable
Don't do it. Not a lot of new players.. you will get wrecked every game
At 50:00 ish I like how you demonstrate with a slower (than pro) gameplay. It shows how fast a new/casual player is normally when just learning these skills, and not doing it too fast. I really love the idea of slow -> smooth -> fast progression, and having examples that are non-pro speed probably take away the intimidation that we need to do task fast. We need to get smooth first, and then gradually ramping up.
It's such an eye-opener. I made the mistake of practicing speed without understanding why I do the build orders. Better to learn by doing slowly and get faster naturally.
Mate I use auto pause in rts so they r basicly turn based:-) thats how speedy im
I played from 2003-2011, before SC2 came out. After seeing this video I have to buy reforged keys and grind again, UD isn't as bad now I think. Thanks! (this post was paid and written by GrubbyTalks) :)
6:30 this is such an incredibly valuable piece of information.
I'm actually shocked to learn that one of the goats of this game didnt really use custom keys. I remember discovering you could do it when I was struggling on the ladder, and I did something very similar to grid system with 'Q' 'W' 'E' 'R' being my hotkeys for basically everything, including macro, and my skill level, rank, and control of everything sky rocketed. I thought this must be how the pros play.
This is amazing information! Thank you for the daily inspitation to play WC3 again. I have to watch your fights frame by frame to keep up.
Please keep sharing that wisdom!! Love from Australia!
A Sorcerer!
How did he know I was thinking of starting Warcraft?!
A sorcery, that's what it is!
I literally downloaded it with my 15 year old key two days ago :D but after i heard they changed polish voice lines with reforged im really hesitant to open it again
I used to play DotA 1 with the Numpad Item Hotkeys… haha.
It was insanity, and I was slower than the other players, but when I started I made it work, because of course I started with Warcraft 3’s Melee Default Hotkeys.
Then I copied the Hotkeys other people did in the LAN, Alt+QWASZX, in DotA 1.
When Dota 2 came around, I copied Dendi’s keys (with a few modifications like 2 and 5.), Legacy Keys from DotA 1 and all, because I hated needing Alt key modifier for my items all the time.
Me, who won't be playing WC3 in 2024 (and probably never again), but who will still be watching this video
Lmao same
Same here 😂😂
If it releases skins
Unfortunately.. I can't stand the stench of Reforged installed on my pc
Fr fr fam
This is awesome to see. I am starting wc3 and lost my first game to the AI on easy so I know I can definitely use the help!
i've actually just started playing again after over 20 years, fantastic to see you still making content, thanks for all your videos!
I'm so happy this channel exist grubby, I love hearing your input on things, those things being warcraft 3 is a plus
I like you Grubby. You're an allright guy *thumbs up*
I like how you said everything that needed to be said about game versions without superimposing your opinion on others but still saying it all for those with ears to hear it. It is a skill and an artform and I wish I was fraction as good as you are at it.
Thanks this was perfect for me, I played WC1+2 but missed 3 and very keen to start it this year 😎🤙
Using WC3 to get a feel for RTS before the new games come out but wow, does it feel good! Everything combines into a great experience every time I play. Evergreen!
Ive alwasy wanted to play, ive played warcraft since i was 7 or 8 with my brothers and I'd always play custom games like footies, x hero siege, or just amass a giant army of frost wryms against an AI and lose. Now that I'm 18 with a brain and love strategy games, mtg, mobas, boardgames, I'm excited to get into warcraft and get good :D. Thanks so much for the video, love the content by the way! You got me back into the game last year and I watch almost every video on both channels :D
Really like the mention of micro custom maps, I wouldn't have thought to even check they exist!
I always felt like making the hot keys make sense was my next plateau to cross. Thanks!
I left WC3 in like 2010 but still got hooked to your content
I've been practicing with build orders (bloody beginner guides ofc) for the first time in my life this week. This video couldn't have been made at a better time! :D Thanks Grubs
GRUBBY! Thank you so much for making this video, I didn't know I got access to Reforged and it's multiplayer with my old CD keys, I bought the Battle Chest 10 years ago and wasn't ever really able to get into the multiplayer, excited to start now!
your tier lists have brought me back - this is beyond perfect, thanks!
I have been playing since the beginning of wc3 watching my older bros play it when it came out. Never was brave enough to go to the servers but now am feeling like working up to it after getting some better hot keys.
Been playing this game on and off 20 years. Great video learned so much!
I did it. I am playing WC3 again in 2024. Thank you for the guide Grubby and zug zug!
This is EXACTLY the kind of video I was looking for. Even if I discovered your main channel durin second half of the pandemic, your tier list arc just popped back again in my yt home, and I was thinking "mmhm maybe I could start playing wc3 online, i never tried that" but as a new player is REALLY hard to understand what to do in order to survive an online match, even a lowest rank one. I still get rekt by ai, imagine a real player... Thanks for your help!
This is such a great video. So nice to see Grubby explaining the game this way for both old and new players.
You keep doing that man.. I dont even know how to express my gratituide for all hard work you put into making those videos, helping us to get into W3, and in general, all RTS genra. From my end I can only confirm that it works and you are a great teacher. I already went from being smashed by easy AI to win with insane and 2v1 vs easy xd please, keep that coming, want to play ladder but I wont without, a best in class, preparations beforehand
Я довольно хорошо знаю и помню основы игры PvP 1:1 в варкрафт, не играю уже много лет, но с удовольствием слушаю это видео, потому что я люблю эту игру.
Варкрафт 3 повлиял на мое детство, вдохновлял меня много лет своим миром и геймплеем. Так я с детства полюбил жанр стратегий, открыв целый мир игр. Потом была эпоха кастомных карт. Это не описать парой слов, но нам с друзьями было невероятно весело ночами зависать в варкрафте. Затем однажды я задался целью не просто играть в варкрафт, а научиться хорошо играть 1:1 матчи. И я усердно учился, и мой навык быстро рос.
Естественно, я смотрел все видео по варкрафту, и наткнулся на Grubby. Мужик, ты просто лучший. Ты не только профессиональный игрок, тебя просто приятно слушать. Ты всегда говоришь так жизнеутверждающе, с огнем в глазах. И я очень рад, что ты до сих пор не бросаешь нашу игру. Игре столько лет, но ты все еще продолжаешь развивать коммьюнити, привлекать новых игроков и учить их.
Мне очень нравится коммьюнити варкрафта. Уверен, для многих это игра детства, навсегда занявшая особое место в сердце, как и для меня. Всем отличного дня, работяги, культисты и светлячки! 🫡
Hey Grubby, this video and your other learning content has inspired me to get back into WC3 and I would love to play 1v1s more. It would be amazing if you created a beginner build order video for each race, I'm sure it would encourage even more people to get into the versus scene which builds the community!
Crazy value video. So many questions answered which I had for years and couldn't find an answer to.
i will play on a beginner level with a friend today so this video is really helpful thank you alot grubby
YES! after so much bronze league heroes and months of following your channel, i finally have the courage to try wc3 multiplayer, i have hundreds of hours in single player and campaigns or custom maps, but thanks to your channel and how it makes the meta more accesible to noobs like me i think i will finally try wc3 LOK TAR!
I know I say this each grubby talks video, but these really are a good way to pass time on a walk :)
Its good that people know that if you get the game. Even if you only ever play the campaign its still super fun. The WC3 Campain is a FUCKING BANGER
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- Orc is easiest to learn but hardest to master (require a lot of micro on units later on, for example to beat elf)
- Elf is not that easy to learn but after you learn the basics as elf you snowball in low lv mmr, and the higher mmr is the harder it is to you and because most of people are not pro players this is the best race for beginners to feel fulfilment unless it's vs rushy UD
- Human is the hardest to learn and is hard to master (require a lot of micro early on, later on it's full focus on macro. Their win condition compared to other races is unit composition, counters etc and thats unique, gain the most from game knowledge like timeing pushes, tricks etc)
- Undead easy to learn hard to master. Punished by small mistakes, meta is brutal. But if you don't do mistakes on map movement you can win just by having heroes alone.
Bought the game December of last year (after playing it pirated since like 2004) and I've been having fun playing the campaign again, and some maps against the AI. I even installed a modified AI that is smarter and better than Blizzard's. It's pretty fun. I haven't played against other people at all though. I feel like I'm not good enough or ready yet. Maybe one day.
Try it. You might be surprised. The avg newbie is usually easier to beat than a bot.
@@HighLanderPonyYT Maybe, yeah.
Ha, amazing timing... I've just discovered your alt channel and those tier vids made me try out some qvw vs the conputer. Gotta love being able to play classic W3 at 3440x1440
Hey, perfect timing! Watching some of your matches and tier lists convinced me to download and replay the campaign, was thinking of maybe trying my hand at multiplayer in the future. :)
Funny enough, I think noobs to Wc3 don't like upkeep, while veterans/old players really understand it and start to love it. Like you said Grubby, it makes you really think differently about how you're building your army, compared to most games where bigger army = better army. It's an additional layer of complexity, since the macro side of Wc3 is relatively so simple!
Grubby so much love for this video I am restarting playing the game so this helps a lot. Thanks my peon overlord!
A great topic! Grubby 2024 is awesome!
I have played so many RTS and WC3 was always the least intuitive to me. This video helps a ton
I was hoping for such a video on this channel! Thank you for uploading, will make sure to perfect my skills using your toolbox!
55:40 you can open that map in editor and see for yourself. Creep with a white circle is an item dropper.
Nice work, this answered a lot of my questions.
I wasn't aware that there were still uploaded files of the last patch before blizzard went all "scorched earth" on wc3... i need to find that patch!! I absolutely loved the added 12 player colors for custom games and whathaveyou.
Omg that's the perfect video for me, this is gold !!
Im currently downloading wc3 right now just had the urge to play again.. hope its like i remember
I just started WC3 campaign for the first time about a week ago, so this video is perfect for me as someone who hasn't the first clue about multiplayer.
Also edit to your comment about gfx, even as a modern player of this old game I much prefer the original gfx, they are dated as you said but also appear much nicer and clearer, as well as having that original artistic inspiration intact.
Very good content. Helpful for newer players. Thank you!
I play mostly RT and AT random. Learning the game was tough but now the game is so diverse for me I play all the time still and stay fresh. I thought I would pick a race by now but I love them all. Human is my weakest but that doesn’t even matter unless my opponent is the same or better than me.
Isn't human the weakest race in general?
I actually started WC3 in 2024 after I was playing it as a kid in 2003/2004 and got hit by nostalgia about month ago xD
So much value in this video. Thank you Grubby
i think it's easy to overburden ones self as a beginner with all these technical things and all the cool shit everyone else does.
there are just a few things i think that would help a beginner in an rts game, don't play online the first thing you do if you have a choice, you want to learn the basics in a low stake environment, against cpu is what i would recommend, that is something i think most gamers are used to anyways because most single player games are like that, and it's there for a reason in pvp games, use it.
mess around, lose, do some silly stuff, get aquainted with the mechanics and the cpu is there to basically test you.
now the things i think that is important to get down early for your own enjoyment especially in an rts game is hotkeys, making control groups and using hotkeys, you want to be able to walk around with your hero and your units without feeling like training units and creating things in your base is a hindrance to you where you constantly camera pan with your mouse and mouseclick on things to create units etc, so hotkeys allows you to do that, using hotkeys to train units let's you see your squad or your unit still and it goes really fast, being able to just double click on a hotkey can let you jump between looking at your hero to your base and back to your hero again which is such a relief in how little effort it takes to go fix something quickly and be back to your hero.
see it like movement in a shooter game, you're always clicking buttons to move around, your hotkeys should be used roughly the same way so hotkeys are that fundamental to the game, it's to allow you to move around and do stuff with your units and keep much of your focus on them because they are the active component to the game, if you're just looking at your base it's basically watching grass grow.
as for what you should be aiming to do to orient your gameplay around, it's to kill the enemy as fast as possible, this means as early as you can is to try and beat your opponent, everything else trickles down from that, this means you need to know what they are doing in order for you to know if you can kill them and the only way you will start to learn when you can do this is to attack them as early as possible and from there you will figure out how you can do that and what you need to do to be able to do that, so for example you can push out a hero really fast and just go over there and kill all their workers and win pretty much, but more often than not it won't be that easy and that's when you learn to level up your hero and how to creep which will teach you what you need to do in order to kill creeps by failing and learning and when you've done that you can now try and kill the opponent again because now the basic things that saved the enemy the first time you tried just rushing over there is gonna be less of an issue, so you have more lethality in your ability to destroy someone elses base but they also have more ability to defend their base, so it kinda goes on and on til someone wins.
but essentially the longer the game goes the more difficult and tricky the game gets, more units, more upgrades, more abilities etc, that's why attacking early is better because it's like a tree that branches out in possibilities in how they can survive and beat you and you want to leave as little possibilities you can to the enemy.
now what makes WC3 special amongst RTS games, it's the army size, it's constantly skirmishing, with typically a rather few units in comparison to most other RTS games, it even tries to hinder you from amassing too many units by having this upkeep mechanic that tries to incentivize you to attack early or keep your army size lower, the other part is the hero obviously but something very special about WC3 is how actually strong the hero is, you will be pretty much shooting yourself in the foot if you choose to play without a hero.
TLDR, if you're a beginner play against CPU, learn hotkeys and try to kill the enemy as fast as possible, and when the CPU is too easy play online against others.
Because of your recent videos I am waiting reforged to be on sale to buy it and relive the 2004 experience
I really liked WC3 back in the day… but was so disappointed about Reforged that even decided not to buy it… honestly, I’m more of SC guy… but still… don’t understand why WC3 reforged couldn’t be like SC remastered (both in price and (non-)changes implemented)? It was an older game
Just got it 2 days ago awesome 👌
Brilliant guide!
Thank you Grubby!
I bought reforged yesterday - and custom hotkeys tip is a must-do.
Having a lot of fun playing, although still losing to AI :)
There was a gem like that ? Damn. I need to watch it !
I'd love to play Warcraft 3 TFT, but my friend at the time lost my copy. And also I get intimidated by pvp matches, but they are so fun to watch. And win vicariously hahah
After CD key stuff I tried to find my cd of RoC from almost 20 years ago just for fun of it and I fucking found it. It made me so happy for nostalgia sake. It had no cd key on it tho but so many memories floded my mind ... thanks I would never go down this rabbit hole if it wasnt for this video
Such a good video, I have an old CD key and I’ve been wanting to get back into the game this is such good information tyty! (Make a new Night Elf beginners guide tho ❤😂)
Perfect video for me. I was like "B" tier, in RoC / early TFT. I made EU 1v1 top 500 very briefly which I guess would have put me in the top 2 or 3% at the time, but I was still miles off the true top players.
I've also not touched the game for nearly 20 years and honestly if I played against players today I'd be lucky to get out the bottom 10%, but at least tells me what I'd need to know if I was to go get my butt kicked by people with many more reps than me !
thank you very much for the hotkey part!
38:18 I think it's less "this has to be a good strategy" and more "the good strategy is properly judging fights or predicting outcomes, which I can't do yet as a new player, so I have to default to playing safe." A beginner doesn't know who wins a fight, but can safely assume the beginner is at a disadvantage just by being new so fighting is bad for them. Obviously losing fights is just part of the limit testing necessary for learning, but the initial instinct is always not to. Plus fully teching up theoretically has the added benefit of learning what all the units and upgrades do (which should be reserved for the no opponent games before facing even the bots).
Great Video! I was just thinking about hopping into wc3 again today and then I stumbled upon these 1 day old video.. fate?
I used to love playing TFT back in the day...but now I suck haha and forgot all the build orders. Watching Grubbys videos everyday make me want to play again but man its not so easy and feels like a time dump. I will be searching 1v1 in Asia so leggo
Thank you sir for explaining me how can i still play my old wc3 cd copy this day. I dont say i will, 30gb is too much for my 15 yo laptop but maybe few years from now i will, when childrens will move out finally:-)
the best game ever made, the graphics tho dated are still powerful and beautiful, perfect color combos and textures. Everything from the music, game art, voice actors for units/heros are amazing. game mechanics and how the game is played are both super deep and dynamic. even if youve never played i recommend doing so, there are surprisingly a decent amount of lower killed/new players in the community as of late. the game is perfect, timeless. GET IN. (reforged graphics suck-somehow)
Damn, only thing i got from this video were memories of leveling in barrens. RIP wow.
Oh I didn't know my old CD key would work! Time to hunt that down
41:30 and on
what's this music called? I feel like I recognize it from somewhere (maybe Diablo 3?)
I asked blizz support 2 years ago about what he says at 6:38 and they failed to tell me how to launch WC3 without buying reforged, twice, the second reply simply saying that the first person who replied to me was correct... which wasn't the case at all.
The last version that's still pretty much the old version is 1.29 (patches after this require Bonjour for LAN etc and it's clunky), I have it side by side with my paid Reforged.
NOTE: The old editor will crash upon opening it if you open the Reforged editor. You'll need to go and remove the Registry keys associated with the editor to access the older editor (which wipes all settings in both editors).
Grubby plays, Grubby talks but most importantly Grubby teaches.
I disconnect from every single BNet ranked game I play. I just got 1gig speed fiber optic but it happened with cable before too. I've spent hours searching for solutions and tried many things. Ready to give up. Please help :)
Thanks for this video and thanks for keeping this game alife
this was very helpful for me thank you
Personally I've found using custom grid hotkeys very useful because as opposed to Starcraft 2 that displays the hotkeys in the icon, Wc3 doesn't display shit. So you can't learn the "native" hotkeys without mousing over the icons over and over.
How are the resources that people get back from canceling a building under construction calculated? When is it better to cancel a building under attack right away or wait to cancel at the very last second?
the Starcraft 2 Warcraft 3 MOD, is the best version i have ever seen
Great vid!! Thank you
Please make standard build beginner videos of each race please! With build order and creep order.
Perfect! Thank you Grubby. See you in Iron rank or whatever is the lowest one.
What the heck is wrong with the custom hot keys, why isn't there just a options menu to change it.
I also have a question. Is it normal that Acolyte unsummons a building without performing his animation?
hmm , i think best beginner race is human, a warrior melee a ranged a healer, a flying machine etc units are simple for understand, good defense, and heros are strong etc.
9:10 "as long as you stay and play offline, that is legal"
...and as soon as you use a local network emulator, you essentially say "Yarrr!"
Hey! I'm starting to play Warcraft III again because when I played as a child, I literally just acted like a God in custom mode, not knowing what to do. This time I want to actually figure out how this game works
46:57 Okay, Step-warcraft 3 coach 😏😏😏😏😏
"I have questions, questions that need answering"- Gandalf
Chrysalis
Can you make a advanced creep guide? Like specific strategies for each class and each creep
back2warcraft channel has that already check it out
I started playing Dota 2 because of Grubby, I played only 3 months, but without him I would never tried it. It would be funny if I started playing W3 as well, but.. I am not really in my RTS phase.
Can a kodo eat the reforged graphics?