Only bought the marvel vs capcom machine, the one with the special edition art, because that was the art I was planning on using for the sides of the custom build arcade I was planning, thought I would save a couple bucks by Frankenstein-ing it together with my plans. Turns out it was still a little too small for my six foot tall self😂 should’ve read the measurements more carefully I guess but I’ve still made it work. Nevertheless your video was quite enjoyable, well reasoned and structured, a good watch. Thumbs up from me
Thanks, and that's EXACTLY the point I'm trying to make when people argue about modding a 1up... it's still just too small and flimsy no matter what you put inside it. You could have 1000s of games and the best controls but it's still a tiny poorly made cabinet. You just got pinned 👍
You’re still paying too much for those crappy countercades you now love that will sit and collect dust from here on our. But I guess since MLP said it and got views , it’s good to copy popular content . Both of you doing a disservice to your viewers.
@@therexershow nah, $99 was fine for me. As far as popular content, if I cared about that, I would have talked about these machines years ago when the hypetrain was hot.
@@Calwinn nope. Just people who do things and say things that aren’t genuine , not accurate, not honest. And it’s not hard to figure who and when people do those things.
@@The_RadicalOne I guess you missed it when these things were $50 all over the place , probably cause you don’t follow all the 1up shills who were creaming their pants to do social media content covering the $50 dollar countercades.
Born in 74. I own 2 cabs, ATM pinball, and 2 Partycades. While I agree with your points, I have no complaints. My cave looks amazing, my friends love playing them, as do I. Straight out of the box. I don't feel the need to upgrade. It just fills my need for some nostalgic fun, when I need that need filled, at a fraction of the price. Although I should point out, that I've never paid close to full price. Again, all of your points are completely valid, and you do address myself, as a type, I just thought I'd give my two cents on the subject.
I appreciate that Mikey. Unfortunately there's still a lot of people out there that just don't see that Arcade1up products are a waste of money and are strictly decor items. Every day there's a new content creator showing off their new cabinet and how "awesome" it is. I do feel a lot of these people will eventually come around and see these toys for what they really are, but there's always another to take their place
The kool-aid wore off when they trippled the prices and the quality took a massive dive. The controls are cheap, the speakers are garbage, they're still using 14 inch displays when they should be at a 19 inch standard by now. If I'm paying $800/$900 for a 3/4 cabinet, it should be worth the $900. But, the quality has taken such a dive, I'm not interested in buying them anymore. I'm saving up for a legends ultimate, a1up by now should have opened a store front (since Gen 3 + have a micro SD card port) and started selling just the games to add to your cabinet instead of paying $800 for 2-5 games on 1 cabinet.
This is why I only buy them when they're discounted. By then, I know all the pros/cons and common or even necessary mods. Only then do I truly know the value proposition they offer.
@@redroversk It's worth will vary from one individual to another. It's definitely not worth $700 to me. I got mine at $400 and feel that's a more honest MSRP IMO.
I think the issue for most people who got in during the ground floor of Arcade 1UP is the fact that a lot of them feel dissatisfied. In terms of me, I'm kind of glad I waited because I get a complete experience with Mortal Kombat 2. Everything lights up, everything looks good, but if someone had the previous versions, you had to buy the riser, you had to do all this other stuff, and some of the other versions had issues, so I'm glad I waited. I think this is the version I wanted, the deluxe version, and that's what everyone wanted, so I can understand if people feel burnt out. I would feel burnt out too if I bought a little mini arcade and expected something that's bigger, that you're pretty much paying the same amount as what a new deluxe is.
I will say the Deluxe's took a long time coming. I never liked the riser and the front panel artwork. However I still feel they are just too flimsy and the screens are just too small. Even if you mod them they still are what they are. As a decor piece in a man cave I think one or two is fine but I'm not a fan of mini arcades but that's just my two cents
@@show-me-retro I'm in agreement. Again, I'm just very happy I waited for so long because I've been on the fence about buying these things and then I finally saw the deluxe one day and yeah, I'm just glad I got it now rather than buying the older ones and then feel like I wasted my money because that's all you see over RUclips. I mean a lot of RUclipsrs they do feel burnt out so you're not the only one and again your feelings are legitimate and they're shared with a lot of people who are again early adopters like yourself. I think as you mentioned you have people who don't own arcade one-ups who have kind of joined the conversation about whether or not arcade one-ups are good or not because you have a lot of people who are lurking who are very interested but are waiting for the right cabinet and honestly I feel this new version is the right cabinet. I only wish though that it included a store where you could buy more digital games and upload it on this set. That's just me.
@@HisShadowX I think if they could offer the XL cabinets at the price of the some of these other ones like TMNT that would make a lot of people happier. Larger screen, more weight and overall height.
The main reason people like A1Up is that you can just turn it on a play. There is something said about that. People say just get the actual arcade. You going to rent that truck for me and then help me move it in my home? Let alone the maintenance that nobody talks about with a purchase like that, particularly with CRT's and how dangerous those can be. Well then go to a vendor that builds multicades and buy that. Ok...still talking about 1000's of dollars for one that has all the controls and computer in there. And if it is less, then have to provide a monitor, computer and then start dealing with finding roms and emulators. Most poeple do not want to deal with a computer or raspberry pi for hours editing config files and adjusting setting just to get that extra frame dialed in so you can perform that Street Fighter move 1ms quicker. They just want to take the hour to build it, turn it on and play. I understand that this may not be for some people. I also understand that some of the things A1UP has done has turned them off to the product. But there is something to be said about just turning it on and playing the game. Are there some issues? Yes...not going to lie about this, but for some it is more of an issue than others. The online play for NFL Blitz for example. Should online have been out when the cab was released. Yes. However, some do not care because they do not use online and if they do, they will wait until it is available. Does this mean A1UP should have delayed online? No...NFL Blitz, and MVC2 were major snafu's as far as releases, but there are a number of buyers who do not think this is a big issue. Some weigh the faults higher than others and purchase accordingly. As for people lying...this is done on both sides of the debate. Take the wood quality issue. Even in the response in this chat, I hear people say it is 1/4" thick...it is particle board, which is not true. 1/2 MDF...may not be the quality MDF that you buy in Home Depot...but MDF. But people will still lie about it. At any rate, I will probably be roasted for this or be called an A1UP fanboy...and so be it...I do not care...at end of the day it is what you enjoy. If not yours, or anyone else's, cup of tea, fully understand that. A1UP has fumbled and hope they make it right. I like the products and will continue to buy.
Great video, I bought the Marvel vs Capcom 1 and 2 Cabinet and I will say this. It will definitely be the last time I ever preorder from them ever again. Worst experience ever and the fact that they went radio silent after everyone got their Blitz Cab really says a lot about them as a company. I treat these as furniture that looks nice in my room setup so something aren't really a big deal but it doesn't excuse the fact that they treat their customers with no ounce of respect with their products. So I won't be buying another Cabinet until I see some improvements from them. I did an unboxing vid of the MVC2 Cab and even had to mod the sticks and buttons, you're right I just don't know why they can't just come out the box with better sticks and buttons, it baffles me. Subscribed!
Your point about them being luke furniture it well said. I think they are "decor" but essentially the same thing. But yeah, anything over $400 for one of these is too much for what you're getting.
I really don't blame you bro. I agree 100 percent with you. They are just too damn small, and the quality isn't up to par, and not made to withstand grown adults playing on them. It's a kid's toy, and a nostalgic trip. I admire you for speaking out on this topic. Amen about the people who don't even own an Arcade1up and getting in on the drama for clout and views. Well done sir.
Thanks Los. I was initially drawn in by nostalgia and admittedly probably had my expectations too high. I understand why people like them but I can't pretend to anymore
Yep, it's the same people that buy those "mini" consoles. They play them once or twice and never again but just had an overwhelming urge to buy them. Foolish people... oh wait. I did that...
I picked up a Galaga and Final Fight from Walmart for $50 each at the start of Covid. Later that summer, I got a Street Fighter 2 Cocktail version for $150 from Costco (this was the display unit so it was "open box" but complete and working). I'd like to pick up a T2, Killer Instinct, or Simpsons, but not for the prices they are asking. Keep your eyes out for deals, don't pay full price.
Agreed. I got Simpsons for $300 about a month ago. Came with the stool, riser and wall sign. For that price it was worth it, but for the MSRP of $700? No way.
Yeah for those prices for sure worth it.... We got three kids 9, 6 and 4 so these seem like a decent idea.... I just recently came across them while looking at other emulators and similar things. The kids don't really get to play the modern games so much but I could see having one of the multi game emulator set ups for a family game night now and then... and now I'm in a rabbit hole and there are the ubiquitous warring factions apparently. I didn't know there were knockoff arcade loyalists... We really have too much time on our hands I think. We don't need to be passionately attached to every little thing.... Not every slight incline need be a hill on which to die, friends.
I purchased one of them (Pac-Man Namco Legacy) at launch for $349 on sale which I really like. The newer machines are just too expensive and somewhat downgraded in some areas so I have not purchased anymore.
I bought a street fighter II and threw a pi in it in 2018. It was a Christmas gift for my daughter who was 5 at the time. For that purpose it was a good fit. I now have a second daughter who's 4 and she loves smacking around on it too. I spent $200 on the cab and about $250 on everything I've done to it since the initial purchase. I still check in to see if there are any other ones that make sense for me to make space for but so far I've pulled the trigger on none of them. I just haven't had a compelling reason to get any of the other offerings from them. Now that any of the cabinets even on sale still run $300+ I don't think that will change for me anytime soon. I've been tempted by a couple here and there but unless they come out with a good light gun cabinet at a good price with a good screen I don't think I'll be purchasing another one.
Keep in mind, the 3/4 scale is designed for home use, not too heavy, not too large, and more reliable than old school arcades. I agree the buttons and joysticks aren't the best. I swapped mine for Sanwa's. It's also possible to mod these, but the idea is to provide a multi-cade with authentic looking artwork and style, at a fraction of the cost of buying a 40 year old real arcade, even if the prices have basically doubled since they launched in 2018. Now as for that.... That's another issue altogether! Greed and lack of listening to their fan/install base
Agree with size, home use comments Collecting vintage Golden Age CRT arcade games is a big undertaking, a niche of a niche. Weight, size and tech maintenance are too much for most people, same for full size pinball machines. So it's a hobby for dedicated tech oriented types, like guys who have been doing diy PCs or similar for years, including software, is and hardware maintenance. 1up and atgames are targeted at the average consumer, with cost and components to match the market. Imo, it's a Good Thing the market is flooded with 1ups and similar,. Been seeing many on the craigslists and offerups of the world. This means lots of cabs and parts for collectors and diyets who want a base to mod from. A lot of us don't have or want a full woodworking shop with CNC machine to make a good looking cabinet. So it's finished flatpacks or used 1ups as a base. It's all good
@@williambatson2514 agree . Fun for a personal arcade. I don't want to work on them or collect them just play when I can. Total respect for people who can keep the old school cabs alive.
Lol. Man I just subscribed to you. Real adult talking. You are funny as hell, and I don’t know if comedy was your attempt here but you executed, I mean I watched this entire video. The “WTF” will image was golden with the guy playing on the Street Fighter. My opinion, they are literally toys.
I've owned defender and star wars games a couple years now. There are 12 in 1, and 3 in 1 games. I made 4 inch risers to go under the 1up risers. They look more realistic and easier to play, love them. I own a huge heavy original defender cabinet that doesn't work. These hit the spot for nostalgic game play, lightweight and not space eaters. Clean working Defender can cost upwards of $1,800 and you need lot of help moving it for ONE game.
My take on this! Real Arcade machines will have more problems down the line. I enjoy both - but I prefer Arcade1up for now. Reasons: The Weight of the machines. Being able to enjoy these games the way they should be played. The Killer Instinct Pro is going in the right direction and glad I got one.
Make a mame cab. If that isn't good enough for you then the arcade 1up is going to fail you in the end. You are trying to get the feeling of having an arcade and 1up cabs aren't going to scratch that itch. You are just buying into things that you will end up either ignoring or selling at a huge loss. Buy once cry once... you are working your way to a deluge of tears.
I agree with you, these things suck out of the box. However, they're perfect for someone like me who is essentially looking for a shell with artwork to mod out. I get most of mine when they're on clearance/used around $200-$300. At that price I can't get a cabinet with artwork and monitor anywhere else. But yes, it's infuriating how they cut corners for the out of box experience. At the very least they should spend a few extra dollars for better joystick/buttons.
Bought a cabinet from them for $500 and it never turned onn. They did little to nothing to help the situation. I mean they sent me a new bored but that didn’t fix the problem…. So now it just collects dust
I started watching your content after seeing you on @therexershow and really enjoy the great content. Sadly your frank assessment is shared by the silent majority within the arcade community as Arcade1UP have constantly failed to deliver and cut way too many corners... Big respect from Australia!
A lot of people liked the Class of 81 A1up but games like pac-man have to have good quality joysticks because of the precise movements and if you're wanting to break your high scores, the stock controls will need to be replaced first thing
Here in England we can barely get them anyway and they are very expensive. I was very tempted with Dragons Lair as it looks amazing but again I’ve heard stories where seasoned gamers can’t finish the Timewarp and Space Ace games as joystick inputs aren’t good enough and also Dragons Lair apparently has audio sync issues. But the Star Wars cabinet does look amazing but that’s not even for sale in England. Thanks for the info man. Appreciate it.
I have to admit that I have had a nostalgic interest in these cabinets but once I got an opportunity to get some hands on time with a few of them I quickly realized that they are an expensive novelty at best. To each their own but for me I can't see myself spending enough time with them to justify the cost and they would quickly become something that is just taking up space in the room.
They look really cool. Nostalgic and all that with the art, but they are just so tiny. I had seen my first one a few months ago and it came up to my chest on a riser. I have the Legends Ultimate arcade on a 5-inch riser and it's unbelievably comfortable and the space for two players is great, with no wobble. That's all anyone needs.
I appreciate that your not "shill-ing" for them. So many other channels wont say anything negative because they NEED Arcade1up to be successful, because thats what their channel is predominately based on. They're to "ties-in" to the brand.
You hit the nail in the head with these by saying its for a mancave or hobby room. Ideal for someone like myself who just dabbles in retro gaming has a huge nostalgic connection to the Konami 2d sidescrollers of the 90s. But to a retro gamer who is full into the hobby (like I am with transformers) they just won't meet the expectations. Great video explaining your thoughts man.
Amazing video , the sentiments I’m sure are felt by many. This was good stuff , so much is spot on. The Jr cade hahaha. And people were talking about it.
I think you’re forgetting these cabs aren’t really meant to be played….they’re a novelty item that you can simulate and relive the feeling of walking into an arcade during your younger years. The purpose of these cabs is to make you think of memories or times in your life you enjoyed these games, at the end of the day they’re just a display piece.
I'm pretty sure I said the exact same thing LOL. I think the difference is I had higher expectations but I gave them a pass in the beginning but I refuse to anymore
Great video. I have been saying this for a while “they look great turned on in my game room when I’m watching football or shooting pool”. They get played some - but not a ton. I have 4 and the ultimate legends - that’s probably it for me. The prices are too high now and the quality hasn’t improved. Give us a bigger screen, no riser, and Sanwa controls and I’m in again - not sure why that’s so hard??
Thank you for your honesty I was going to buy the killer instant cabinet seems like you’re saving me a lot of money and a lot of heartache and pain already have a real Arcade’s in my house that already came full assembled so once again thanks a lot I appreciate it And thanks for laughing at jumping on the bandwagon
Hey man, you might remember me from way back. I REALLY appreciate this video. I get people all the time leaving me comments on my old videos about why I haven't really made any vids in 2 years. 2 years!! Well, I've made a couple, but most of them have just been quick little "here's an updated tour of my game room" (and one review, but it was the MVSX), but nothing at all for over a year now. This video you've made here basically sums it up and really hits home. Like you said, they look nice. That's about all you can say about them. And you can dump $2k in to modding the shit out of them, and you still have this tiny thing that's 5 feet tall and built out of 75% 1/8" MDF with a couple 1/2" panels. You can put all the lipstick you want on a pig, and it's still a pig. I loved A1Up's vision when it was all really early, and just like you, I bought the Marvel LE and felt they were going in the right direction, but since then, things have been all over the place. I'm not aligned with A1Up's vision anymore, whatever their vision even is, which is a bigger problem because we can't even tell. Thanks for the vid man!
I agree 💯 I just sold my second cab... my Marvel LE and it felt like a weight lifted off my sholders. I have a replacement coming Sun. It's nothing special but still way better than both 1uos I sold. I will probably make a quick vid talking about it
Ohhh, now I made the connection... I seriously love your channel. You are very talented modder. Hopefully you will be making more content soon, I could learn a lot from you. Thanks for the comment and look forward to new videos!
@@ArcadeSchool I'd really hate to tell you what content to make on your own channel. I know many of my subscribers would rather hear me do 1up content but that's not happening. I will say I enjoy lighthearted honest reviews, simple easy to follow mod tutorials that people like me can follow LOL and videos on topics where people speak from the heart and it shows. I look forward to your return
Great video. Like many I found them in 2018 and didn’t pay full price then. I’ve owned many full size cabinets over the years and know these 1ups are cheap toys. I’m baffled by the prices they are asking now when nothing has really improved or changed other than the aesthetics.
I'm sorry but they have changed. I bought an Arcade1up back when they first came out in September 2018 and EVERYONE new they were cheap, cookie cutter shape toys but that didn't matter because you can upgrade any parts you wanted and still came out cheaper than buying a real arcade or multicade. That created a huge boom for the arcade aftermarket. Today there are different shapes and sizes of cabinets, ever so slightly better parts, light up marquees, more powerful hardware to run more games, WIFI and many other things which resulted in Arcade1up pricing themselves out of a market they created. No one asked to make Arcade1up cabinets to be more like the real ones with better parts and light up marquees. I blame Arcade1up for listening to RUclipsrs for all this mess.
thanks for this in-depth breakdown. I had one of these arcades as a 'maybe some day' idea, but this helped me realize that the workmanship is nowhere near what I would want for the spend. I'd sooner spend a few hours here and there over a few months building my own out of pine or something.
If you can find one on marketplace for cheap, like less that $200 they're alright but don't have high expectations... like I stated tbey are essentially decor
When you promise things that are on the box and don't work as such, that's a major problem with promising things weeks to months (if at all) later. Having to put quality parts in after the fact when you can get a quality pre-made cab or DIY for the cost just defeats the purpose. You can only put out the same games so much before people take notice along with the huge quality issues in regards to functionality. Great video man. This is also someone who has five of their games and I won't be buying any more from them for the aforementioned reasons and for taking advantage of people not realizing they're getting a full game with the last two titles. And a "pro" version for almost $1000 is nearing actual arcade game prices. Many will be out on those alone.
100% Agreed. I started getting into Arcade1up machines a few years back and have been in the process of selling them off to make room for pinball machines (real machines, from Stern and Jersey Jack, not virtual ones). To be fair, the Arcade1Up machines served as a gateway drug that convinced me to create a mini home arcade in my basement, but at some point I just realized that they weren't cutting it for me and I needed the real thing.
That Costco MK cabinet was also my first (and only) Arcade 1Up. Now, as someone who has owned, and still owns, a full size cabinet, I pretty much knew what I was getting into. It really is a big, pretty toy, but I still enjoy it. Granted, I don't play it that often, but I'm happy I own it. I would like to own the Sega OutRun and Golden Axe cabinets, but I just don't have room, and really can't justify the price anymore. I haven't been keeping up on these, but I was stunned to see the cost of them now. $600 to 800, or more? No. Just, no. At that point, just spend a little more and get a MAME cabinet or something. And to be honest, I'm surprised Arcade 1Up is even still around. I expected them to be a flash in the pan and be gone in a year or so. I expected to see Craigslist flooded with old cabinets for $50, but that hasn't really happened.
Arcade 1Up is built for the Walmart crowd, not the enthusiasts, and anyone reviewing them for enthusiasts saying "mod this mod that" are just ... wrong. This is why I built my own arcade machine that stands 6' tall with a 27" monitor and Sanwa sticks. In my opinion if you're buying an Arcade 1Up it's for your 8 year old and you should expect him to break it in under a year.
Dude you don’t have to understand!!! I’m sure if I came to your home I could say the same thing about most of the stuff you have! Where does it end. I own a motorcycle that I have 40k invested in, can you understand that purchase? People buy what they like that’s all you have to understand.
Bro can you recommend an arcade cabinet etc please ? I just want one cabinet with four players controls and multiple games already installed ready to go. Cheers buddy.
Getting a four player cab with games installed would probably be from a company that ells custom arcades which might be expensive. A1up makes 4 player cab butvin reality you're lucky to be able to play 2 player and they're just soo small
@@show-me-retro Ok but if my budget was about £750 then what ? I've seen that 4 stick ultimate thing but I presume that's not with a cabinet so maybe you could make a video of this please what you think? £750 to I guess £1000
Just bought 40th anniversary pac man black edition cocktail table 12 in 1, for 399.00. Sitting here in the box unopened ! Should I keep it, or return it ? Lol.
I mean in all honesty it's about price paid and expectations. If you didn't pay much and don't have high expectations you should be good. I have zero experience with a 1up cocktail but the main issue will be controls and buttons. Not sure about the quality of the monitor or wood used.
What wait, you have a pinball machine that can play any game? How do I get that or build that? I love pinball but also wouldn't mind playing some old videos roms.
The thing people keep forgetting with Arcade1up is has very limited options for games. They DO NOT own the rights to any of these games and have pay a licensing fee for EACH machine sold. They have never been a real arcade machine manufacturer. They fill a simple hobby niche market that has to focus on keeping the cost manageable while making some profits. Also, as much as people want to complain about the continual re-releases, there were never that many great arcade games that could justify fabricating an entirely new machine and pay the licensing fee for that one mediocre game you slightly remember. Arcades were always filled with a lot of lousy games so it seems rather stupid to suggest Arcade1up should introduce new titles that never existed.
i m 5.7 3/4 foot and i m comfortable playing them on a chair without any riser installed...that aside i understand where youre coming from on the cheapness of these oversized but cool (for me at least) toys eheh
I love your brutel honesty and I agree with most of what you're saying. The problem I have with 1up as you said they keep making mistakes with their cab. You shouldn't have to mod something that you're paying $600+ defeats the purpose.
People mod them because the experience is lackluster out of the box. But I refuse to mod them because it's like putting s V12 in a Pinto. What's the point of having a big fast motor when the car itself is still a pos
I agree about the quality. I only ever purchased a series 1 Pacman and a riser both at a reduced price and then modded it right away with a pi4, real buttons and controls, stereo sound, a lit marquee, and a 20-inch dell 4:3 monitor. It plays thousands of games and a bunch of older consoles now. I don't have much space so this works for me. I just shake my head in disbelief every time I see A1U release another Pacman cabinet that just either has new artwork on the cabinet or a couple more games for hundreds more than what I spent originally, and they seem to be doing that a lot with other games lately. It would've been cool if they kept releasing other games but honestly how many versions of the same thing do they expect people to buy with the low-grade controls and that goofy 5:4 monitor.
I’m glad that you did your due diligence and found that you no longer want to support Arcade1Up at its current state. I agree with 100% of what you said. Thankfully, you haven’t fully let it affect your passion for arcades and retro games. Looking forward to more content.
I honestly still really like overall and play my Simpsons arcade cab from them, but I probably won't ever get another one, unless they are deeply discounted potentially, because I just enjoy going to the arcades more themselves and enjoy playing outside of my home with friends. Cheers and another great video my friend!
I'm glad you put this out there! It's good to hear some honest opinions, and be warned about the quality of the product. Seems like they are only worth it if you get a killer deal and want a project. One thing I would like to know is how do you recommend people get into arcade gaming without Arcade 1up?
That's not gonna happen. They still don't use real t- molding, the screen is still only 19" and they didn't add that much weight. I don't think they justify the price but I appreciate the comment.
Agree with Show-Me Retro. The XL would need “real” upgrades all the way around to make sense. Better monitor, cabinet, and controls. Worse yet, it’s going to be repeats of all the same cabs that they’ve already run into the ground. Too little, too late.
Dude, I totally love your honestly in your reviews and that is what I love. I've always been like Nah with the Arcade1up stuff, the TMNT one is the only one that almostt made me pull a trigger on it, but it was totally for the TMNT fandom not that it was actually Arcade1UP. I then realized that I have a BarTop arcade machine that I built with a raspberry pi and I have no room for that and I can play 1000s of games on it. I have no need for something that is goona take up room I don't have and only have 2 titles on it. Then like you said I would have to mod it anyways.
What I've found with playing emulator handhelds is that these games just don't hold my attention but I think it would be fun to have 1 for when people come over. I don't think I'd make it my personality though.
I bought and have some, but they are games that either I dont want to dedicate the space to a full size arcade cabinets too. Or the game is so expensive, that i am fine with the arcade1up version, like star wars or major havoc, tempest, etc. I also dont pay full price when I do pick them up.
Yeah, I agree about the quality. My first and probably last 1up I bought was mvc2. The buttons are really bad on it. I couldn't even DP. I thought I was just bad at it, since I've never actually played an arcade version of the game before. I ended up getting sanwa buttons and noticed an immediate difference. I was able to DP and the buttons were more responsive. For $600 you'd think it would be better with the buttons and sticks. Plus there's still no online.
Dang!!!! This makes me feel so much better! When I first began hearing about these things and then I saw one in Walmart I was like these are so little and delicate looking! If I bought one and let my sons middle school friends play on it they would destroy it, not because they were abusive but just kids using something not designed for normal play! Yet I keep seeing RUclips videos extolling how great there were!
Yeah, as long as you don't have high expectations and you get one on the cheap... like 200 or less you'll probably be alright with one. Otherwise you'll probably be disappointed
Just built Dragons Lair today and control panel entirely unresponsive. On/off works but stick, buttons, even volume switch do nothing rendering my new cab unplayable. Don’t know if it’s a bad port, bad wire, or something loose inside cpu behind monitor. Everything is hooked up correctly. Any suggestions on a fix without waiting months for new parts would be greatly appreciated.
Oh wow, sorry to hear that. It's really hard to say since there's not much going on inside there. If nothing is loose then it probably needs new control panel
I got the now sold out pro version to have one that’s close to full size. I can’t have real cabs in my room. Size, weight, etc. Simpsons, TMNT in Time can be modded to play more games without replacing the hardware with a keyboard and mouse.
I'm 5'7 and these machines are way too small for me as well. I never understood the hype for these things. There are so many paths to go that gets you in the end a way better machine. Great video Pat!
I really do like my ALP but I would be lying if I said I spend a lot of time playing it. I really do need to jump back into it but I have the attention span of a nat. Lol
@@midwestmediashow8863 I haven't either although I play fx3 via my Switch and it's actually pretty fun although no backglass support but I have the vibs board but never installed yet LOL
I first really liked the idea of 1up as yes the machines were smaller recreations but the price of entry into home arcade was really pretty low, so I could make that trade off. However, a few years later they would already start rereleasing these machines and doubling the price. At 600 to 700 a pop, it got more and more worth it to just spend more for an actual machine instead of buying 2 or 3 of these little 1up machines. So I agree with a lot of what you are saying after buying just a couple of these machines.
Great video I agree with your point of view. These cabs are not with the money. There are various companies that make custom-made arcade machines. All reviewers should be honest.
I didn't even know the Amico had a community lol. I am looking for an arcade machine but just didn't like arcade 1up. I thought about the UMK cab because it is only like 250 right now at Walmart. It is my favorite game but I am leery about the buttons. The only issue is that UMK3 has such a unique controller layout that if I get a normal 6 button arcade machine with multiple games, it will never be the same. Good video and breakdown man. Thanks for this.
@@show-me-retro started game collecting 2 yrs ago. I've come so close to getting 1ups but they just always seemed too expensive for what they look. After this video makes me happy wjrh my non-purchase
@@brittzank8987 if you can find one on marketplace for cheap you might be happy with it... just don't have high expectations and make sure to get a stool LOL
I love your honesty. I have four Arcade1up's and I enjoy them for what they are but they have become to expensive and the customer service sucks. I also didn't like that depending on where you purchase one you end up with one without a lit marquee, no riser, and no stool and some other place has everything for the same price if not cheaper. And that pretty much killed it for me.
The reason people by arcade1up is because they want a home arcade/ for a man cave and gameroom. Size and weight matter. Price matter and ease of maintenance vs real arcade cabs. Real arcade cost 1500 plus where i live. Arcade1up got greedy . At the old prices no one cares. At the new price ponit arcade1up are make money on hardcore fan base and when they drop in price they still make money. Arcade1up use cheap parts to maximize profits like all business.
Bravo!!!! Finally, someone said what I’ve been thinking for so long… and I pose this question, if these machines are so great, then why do the majority of people end up modding them or getting rid of them? Just saying…
I ve been wanting an infinity table but don't want to waste my money. Love the idea, but look at that product, it's been out for a year or more and they have done very little with it as far as games and content.
@@show-me-retro so unfortunate too. It was a great idea. But arcade1up seems to have abandoned it. Happy to get the quick sale but then on to the next half finished quick sale product. Same with the pinball machines ot would seem (at least it is a good product out of the box) but it clearly had so much more potential that we are seeming from the team encoder guys... but why isn't arcade1up supporting this type of stuff? We ve heard zen is totally on board for pushing more from the product.... again, get something out to get the big sale and move on to the next
I've always thought of the Arcade 1up as a toy for kids. But even then they are much more expensive than they ought to be and you are lucky if you get only a few games. For a minute I thought about picking one up on craigslist and making a cheap MAME out of it but the quality of the controls and the displays are sub-par and I would end up replacing everything anyway. I totally understand the nostalgia though and people wanting to have that arcade experience. I think these fill a void for people wanting that nostalgia but don't want to know or care about a full-mame cabinet. I think any gaming enthusiast who has played around with emulation and the potential will see these as a toy and nothing else.
Appreciate your insight into A1up. I have a few buy until they are perfect out of the box it's a no go. Would you be able to shoot a link or be able to show me where you get the atgames pinball with the vertical games on it.
Partycade with $30 button/stick replacement, $50 pi4 and $30 adapter to connect the LCD to the pi, works pretty good and is cost effective. I'm a developer for numerous single board computers, so I opted to put an odroid h2+ x86 board into mine. Now it runs killer instinct, Dreamcast, Naomi, atomiswave, psp and anything earlier I want. Psp and Dreamcast have the same 6 buttons as my sf2 partycade. I took the white led bar out and added 2 rgb bars with remote into the marquee. Your best bet is a sbc with retroarch and netplay. I strongly advise if you get an arcade 1up, you want to use it for it's shell and casing and make some internal changes. It will dramatically improve the experience.
Bruv, a lot of what you mentioned I also saw a couple years ago. I was really determined to get a SF2 A1UP cabinet and mod it because I knew it was kinda crap. That wouldn’t fix the size but I could at least fix other things and add a PC for some more games. Then I discovered the AtGames Legends Ultimate. Bought one of those and while it’s not perfect, I’m glad I didn’t get sucked in to a A1UP purchase. Don’t get me wrong, the LU isn’t perfect but I’m pretty happy with it and know it was a better purchase than the SF2 cabinet I wanted. I think there’s a place for the A1UP machines, but it’s not in the home of an arcade enthusiast.
Yeah I actually had no idea about the woes of the 1up world until today I was about to snag the NFL Blitz for here at my computer repair shop- messaged the wife, she said uh no. It’s on sale! $449 No. Then I was looking at modding options and how expensive that can get and then saw your videos and was like wow this guy is right. I’m on board with you good sir and now am subscribed. Thanks for the great content!
Thank you for saying what I've been saying to people since these things came out. People may hate emulation but I have 2 full sized cabs playing all the games I want to play on arcade monitors. I'd choose those 2 cabs over any arcade1up anybody could ever offer me. Kudos to you and you gained a sub.
100% agree that at the price point, they are not worth it. But if you can get them cheap second hand on marketplace, totally worth it. They are cool and fun to have and fun to play at a certain price point.
Only bought the marvel vs capcom machine, the one with the special edition art, because that was the art I was planning on using for the sides of the custom build arcade I was planning, thought I would save a couple bucks by Frankenstein-ing it together with my plans. Turns out it was still a little too small for my six foot tall self😂 should’ve read the measurements more carefully I guess but I’ve still made it work.
Nevertheless your video was quite enjoyable, well reasoned and structured, a good watch. Thumbs up from me
Thanks, and that's EXACTLY the point I'm trying to make when people argue about modding a 1up... it's still just too small and flimsy no matter what you put inside it. You could have 1000s of games and the best controls but it's still a tiny poorly made cabinet. You just got pinned 👍
Not to mention MvC2 still isn't online, it was my first and last cabinet from them.
I’m so glad I didn’t pay top dollar for these arcades. You are so right about everything you said.
You’re still paying too much for those crappy countercades you now love that will sit and collect dust from here on our. But I guess since MLP said it and got views , it’s good to copy popular content . Both of you doing a disservice to your viewers.
@@therexershow nah, $99 was fine for me. As far as popular content, if I cared about that, I would have talked about these machines years ago when the hypetrain was hot.
@@therexershow are you just bitter towards everyone 😂?
@@Calwinn nope. Just people who do things and say things that aren’t genuine , not accurate, not honest. And it’s not hard to figure who and when people do those things.
@@The_RadicalOne I guess you missed it when these things were $50 all over the place , probably cause you don’t follow all the 1up shills who were creaming their pants to do social media content covering the $50 dollar countercades.
Born in 74. I own 2 cabs, ATM pinball, and 2 Partycades. While I agree with your points, I have no complaints. My cave looks amazing, my friends love playing them, as do I. Straight out of the box. I don't feel the need to upgrade. It just fills my need for some nostalgic fun, when I need that need filled, at a fraction of the price. Although I should point out, that I've never paid close to full price. Again, all of your points are completely valid, and you do address myself, as a type, I just thought I'd give my two cents on the subject.
I totally get your point and I appreciate the comment.
8:22 9-months later… you were 100% right haha. Rewatched this and it’s one of your best videos that everyone is finally coming around to agree with.
I appreciate that Mikey. Unfortunately there's still a lot of people out there that just don't see that Arcade1up products are a waste of money and are strictly decor items. Every day there's a new content creator showing off their new cabinet and how "awesome" it is. I do feel a lot of these people will eventually come around and see these toys for what they really are, but there's always another to take their place
The kool-aid wore off when they trippled the prices and the quality took a massive dive. The controls are cheap, the speakers are garbage, they're still using 14 inch displays when they should be at a 19 inch standard by now. If I'm paying $800/$900 for a 3/4 cabinet, it should be worth the $900. But, the quality has taken such a dive, I'm not interested in buying them anymore. I'm saving up for a legends ultimate, a1up by now should have opened a store front (since Gen 3 + have a micro SD card port) and started selling just the games to add to your cabinet instead of paying $800 for 2-5 games on 1 cabinet.
This is why I only buy them when they're discounted. By then, I know all the pros/cons and common or even necessary mods. Only then do I truly know the value proposition they offer.
true, I just bought the Ridge Racer one at 300, originally 700, but is it really worth 700 if tgey could slash it down to 300 so easily
@@redroversk It's worth will vary from one individual to another. It's definitely not worth $700 to me. I got mine at $400 and feel that's a more honest MSRP IMO.
I think the issue for most people who got in during the ground floor of Arcade 1UP is the fact that a lot of them feel dissatisfied. In terms of me, I'm kind of glad I waited because I get a complete experience with Mortal Kombat 2. Everything lights up, everything looks good, but if someone had the previous versions, you had to buy the riser, you had to do all this other stuff, and some of the other versions had issues, so I'm glad I waited.
I think this is the version I wanted, the deluxe version, and that's what everyone wanted, so I can understand if people feel burnt out. I would feel burnt out too if I bought a little mini arcade and expected something that's bigger, that you're pretty much paying the same amount as what a new deluxe is.
I will say the Deluxe's took a long time coming. I never liked the riser and the front panel artwork. However I still feel they are just too flimsy and the screens are just too small. Even if you mod them they still are what they are. As a decor piece in a man cave I think one or two is fine but I'm not a fan of mini arcades but that's just my two cents
@@show-me-retro I'm in agreement. Again, I'm just very happy I waited for so long because I've been on the fence about buying these things and then I finally saw the deluxe one day and yeah, I'm just glad I got it now rather than buying the older ones and then feel like I wasted my money because that's all you see over RUclips. I mean a lot of RUclipsrs they do feel burnt out so you're not the only one and again your feelings are legitimate and they're shared with a lot of people who are again early adopters like yourself.
I think as you mentioned you have people who don't own arcade one-ups who have kind of joined the conversation about whether or not arcade one-ups are good or not because you have a lot of people who are lurking who are very interested but are waiting for the right cabinet and honestly I feel this new version is the right cabinet. I only wish though that it included a store where you could buy more digital games and upload it on this set. That's just me.
@@HisShadowX I think if they could offer the XL cabinets at the price of the some of these other ones like TMNT that would make a lot of people happier. Larger screen, more weight and overall height.
100 percent agree. By now, Arcade 1up products should be leaps and bounds better over their original releases.
The main reason people like A1Up is that you can just turn it on a play. There is something said about that.
People say just get the actual arcade. You going to rent that truck for me and then help me move it in my home? Let alone the maintenance that nobody talks about with a purchase like that, particularly with CRT's and how dangerous those can be.
Well then go to a vendor that builds multicades and buy that. Ok...still talking about 1000's of dollars for one that has all the controls and computer in there. And if it is less, then have to provide a monitor, computer and then start dealing with finding roms and emulators. Most poeple do not want to deal with a computer or raspberry pi for hours editing config files and adjusting setting just to get that extra frame dialed in so you can perform that Street Fighter move 1ms quicker.
They just want to take the hour to build it, turn it on and play.
I understand that this may not be for some people. I also understand that some of the things A1UP has done has turned them off to the product. But there is something to be said about just turning it on and playing the game.
Are there some issues? Yes...not going to lie about this, but for some it is more of an issue than others. The online play for NFL Blitz for example. Should online have been out when the cab was released. Yes. However, some do not care because they do not use online and if they do, they will wait until it is available. Does this mean A1UP should have delayed online? No...NFL Blitz, and MVC2 were major snafu's as far as releases, but there are a number of buyers who do not think this is a big issue. Some weigh the faults higher than others and purchase accordingly.
As for people lying...this is done on both sides of the debate. Take the wood quality issue. Even in the response in this chat, I hear people say it is 1/4" thick...it is particle board, which is not true. 1/2 MDF...may not be the quality MDF that you buy in Home Depot...but MDF. But people will still lie about it.
At any rate, I will probably be roasted for this or be called an A1UP fanboy...and so be it...I do not care...at end of the day it is what you enjoy. If not yours, or anyone else's, cup of tea, fully understand that.
A1UP has fumbled and hope they make it right. I like the products and will continue to buy.
I'm glad you enjoy them
Absolutely spot on.
Great video, I bought the Marvel vs Capcom 1 and 2 Cabinet and I will say this. It will definitely be the last time I ever preorder from them ever again. Worst experience ever and the fact that they went radio silent after everyone got their Blitz Cab really says a lot about them as a company. I treat these as furniture that looks nice in my room setup so something aren't really a big deal but it doesn't excuse the fact that they treat their customers with no ounce of respect with their products. So I won't be buying another Cabinet until I see some improvements from them. I did an unboxing vid of the MVC2 Cab and even had to mod the sticks and buttons, you're right I just don't know why they can't just come out the box with better sticks and buttons, it baffles me. Subscribed!
Your point about them being luke furniture it well said. I think they are "decor" but essentially the same thing. But yeah, anything over $400 for one of these is too much for what you're getting.
Arcade1Up is a scam.
I really don't blame you bro. I agree 100 percent with you. They are just too damn small, and the quality isn't up to par, and not made to withstand grown adults playing on them. It's a kid's toy, and a nostalgic trip. I admire you for speaking out on this topic. Amen about the people who don't even own an Arcade1up and getting in on the drama for clout and views. Well done sir.
Thanks Los. I was initially drawn in by nostalgia and admittedly probably had my expectations too high. I understand why people like them but I can't pretend to anymore
Yep, it's the same people that buy those "mini" consoles. They play them once or twice and never again but just had an overwhelming urge to buy them. Foolish people... oh wait. I did that...
I picked up a Galaga and Final Fight from Walmart for $50 each at the start of Covid. Later that summer, I got a Street Fighter 2 Cocktail version for $150 from Costco (this was the display unit so it was "open box" but complete and working). I'd like to pick up a T2, Killer Instinct, or Simpsons, but not for the prices they are asking. Keep your eyes out for deals, don't pay full price.
Agreed. I got Simpsons for $300 about a month ago. Came with the stool, riser and wall sign. For that price it was worth it, but for the MSRP of $700? No way.
Yeah for those prices for sure worth it.... We got three kids 9, 6 and 4 so these seem like a decent idea.... I just recently came across them while looking at other emulators and similar things. The kids don't really get to play the modern games so much but I could see having one of the multi game emulator set ups for a family game night now and then... and now I'm in a rabbit hole and there are the ubiquitous warring factions apparently. I didn't know there were knockoff arcade loyalists... We really have too much time on our hands I think. We don't need to be passionately attached to every little thing.... Not every slight incline need be a hill on which to die, friends.
Are you guys still on board with Arcade1up or like me has the Kool-Aid finally worn off?
I purchased one of them (Pac-Man Namco Legacy) at launch for $349 on sale which I really like. The newer machines are just too expensive and somewhat downgraded in some areas so I have not purchased anymore.
I'm not an end user. I've got a whole different goal in mind with owning these.
Still waiting on new cabinets 🤷🏽♂️
I bought a street fighter II and threw a pi in it in 2018. It was a Christmas gift for my daughter who was 5 at the time. For that purpose it was a good fit. I now have a second daughter who's 4 and she loves smacking around on it too. I spent $200 on the cab and about $250 on everything I've done to it since the initial purchase. I still check in to see if there are any other ones that make sense for me to make space for but so far I've pulled the trigger on none of them. I just haven't had a compelling reason to get any of the other offerings from them. Now that any of the cabinets even on sale still run $300+ I don't think that will change for me anytime soon. I've been tempted by a couple here and there but unless they come out with a good light gun cabinet at a good price with a good screen I don't think I'll be purchasing another one.
@@panikk2 Yeah, sinden tech is great but that tiny screen with the white border i can't do for a light gun game
Keep in mind, the 3/4 scale is designed for home use, not too heavy, not too large, and more reliable than old school arcades. I agree the buttons and joysticks aren't the best. I swapped mine for Sanwa's. It's also possible to mod these, but the idea is to provide a multi-cade with authentic looking artwork and style, at a fraction of the cost of buying a 40 year old real arcade, even if the prices have basically doubled since they launched in 2018. Now as for that.... That's another issue altogether! Greed and lack of listening to their fan/install base
I still think they could've made them at least taller. They had/have to know that the people buying these are Adults and not kids, right?
I just bought a bunch, I just want to pack 4 of them in my laundry room
It’s still too damm small. Looks like crap. Plus it almost mocks what they we’re attempting to do.
Blah Blah Blah “I swapped mine…. possible to mod” shouldn’t be the issues 😢
Agree with size, home use comments
Collecting vintage Golden Age CRT arcade games is a big undertaking, a niche of a niche.
Weight, size and tech maintenance are too much for most people, same for full size pinball machines. So it's a hobby for dedicated tech oriented types, like guys who have been doing diy PCs or similar for years, including software, is and hardware maintenance.
1up and atgames are targeted at the average consumer, with cost and components to match the market.
Imo, it's a Good Thing the market is flooded with 1ups and similar,. Been seeing many on the craigslists and offerups of the world.
This means lots of cabs and parts for collectors and diyets who want a base to mod from.
A lot of us don't have or want a full woodworking shop with CNC machine to make a good looking cabinet.
So it's finished flatpacks or used 1ups as a base.
It's all good
I think it's cool . Never thought I'd own a game cabinet. I have 5 of them. Yes they had there problems but it beats restoring a 40 year old cabinet.
Those old cabinets look better, run better and play better than those Arcade1Up toys.
@@williambatson2514 agree . Fun for a personal arcade. I don't want to work on them or collect them just play when I can. Total respect for people who can keep the old school cabs alive.
Lol. Man I just subscribed to you.
Real adult talking.
You are funny as hell, and I don’t know if comedy was your attempt here but you executed, I mean I watched this entire video.
The “WTF” will image was golden with the guy playing on the Street Fighter.
My opinion, they are literally toys.
Appreciate brother.
BTW, that pic of the guy that looked like Santa on his day off bending to see the screen is of a popular A1up content creator LOL
I've owned defender and star wars games a couple years now. There are 12 in 1, and 3 in 1 games. I made 4 inch risers to go under the 1up risers. They look more realistic and easier to play, love them. I own a huge heavy original defender cabinet that doesn't work. These hit the spot for nostalgic game play, lightweight and not space eaters. Clean working Defender can cost upwards of $1,800 and you need lot of help moving it for ONE game.
My take on this! Real Arcade machines will have more problems down the line. I enjoy both - but I prefer Arcade1up for now. Reasons: The Weight of the machines. Being able to enjoy these games the way they should be played. The Killer Instinct Pro is going in the right direction and glad I got one.
Make a mame cab. If that isn't good enough for you then the arcade 1up is going to fail you in the end. You are trying to get the feeling of having an arcade and 1up cabs aren't going to scratch that itch. You are just buying into things that you will end up either ignoring or selling at a huge loss. Buy once cry once... you are working your way to a deluge of tears.
@@thomgizzizif you can convert an arcade 1up to mame what is the issue?
I agree with you, these things suck out of the box.
However, they're perfect for someone like me who is essentially looking for a shell with artwork to mod out. I get most of mine when they're on clearance/used around $200-$300. At that price I can't get a cabinet with artwork and monitor anywhere else.
But yes, it's infuriating how they cut corners for the out of box experience. At the very least they should spend a few extra dollars for better joystick/buttons.
Bought a cabinet from them for $500 and it never turned onn. They did little to nothing to help the situation. I mean they sent me a new bored but that didn’t fix the problem…. So now it just collects dust
Oh jeez, that's unacceptable
I started watching your content after seeing you on @therexershow and really enjoy the great content. Sadly your frank assessment is shared by the silent majority within the arcade community as Arcade1UP have constantly failed to deliver and cut way too many corners... Big respect from Australia!
Thanks, much appreciated. Rexer is a good friend and tells it like it is. I have a lot of respect for that.
Are there any good version of Ms. Pacman other than the original arcade?
A lot of people liked the Class of 81 A1up but games like pac-man have to have good quality joysticks because of the precise movements and if you're wanting to break your high scores, the stock controls will need to be replaced first thing
@@show-me-retro Thanks. That is what I heard. I am really really good at Ms. Pacman, I need those premium controls. Love the channel friends. Thanks.
Here in England we can barely get them anyway and they are very expensive. I was very tempted with Dragons Lair as it looks amazing but again I’ve heard stories where seasoned gamers can’t finish the Timewarp and Space Ace games as joystick inputs aren’t good enough and also Dragons Lair apparently has audio sync issues.
But the Star Wars cabinet does look amazing but that’s not even for sale in England. Thanks for the info man. Appreciate it.
Hello sir, yes you are correct that Star Wars is the only A1up worth buying quality wise. It is hard to find used here as well
Wait Dragons Lair 2 and Space Ace wasnt playable? Glad I passed for nfl blitz.
I have to admit that I have had a nostalgic interest in these cabinets but once I got an opportunity to get some hands on time with a few of them I quickly realized that they are an expensive novelty at best. To each their own but for me I can't see myself spending enough time with them to justify the cost and they would quickly become something that is just taking up space in the room.
Well said
They look really cool. Nostalgic and all that with the art, but they are just so tiny. I had seen my first one a few months ago and it came up to my chest on a riser. I have the Legends Ultimate arcade on a 5-inch riser and it's unbelievably comfortable and the space for two players is great, with no wobble. That's all anyone needs.
I appreciate that your not "shill-ing" for them. So many other channels wont say anything negative because they NEED Arcade1up to be successful, because thats what their channel is predominately based on. They're to "ties-in" to the brand.
You hit the nail in the head with these by saying its for a mancave or hobby room.
Ideal for someone like myself who just dabbles in retro gaming has a huge nostalgic connection to the Konami 2d sidescrollers of the 90s.
But to a retro gamer who is full into the hobby (like I am with transformers) they just won't meet the expectations.
Great video explaining your thoughts man.
We need more videos like this that give an honest review
Amazing video , the sentiments I’m sure are felt by many. This was good stuff , so much is spot on. The Jr cade hahaha. And people were talking about it.
Lol, that Jr. video was my Citizen Kane. Thanks for helping me see the light 😉
I think you’re forgetting these cabs aren’t really meant to be played….they’re a novelty item that you can simulate and relive the feeling of walking into an arcade during your younger years.
The purpose of these cabs is to make you think of memories or times in your life you enjoyed these games, at the end of the day they’re just a display piece.
I'm pretty sure I said the exact same thing LOL. I think the difference is I had higher expectations but I gave them a pass in the beginning but I refuse to anymore
the free cabs stopped coming is the real reason
Yup, you got me... the cat's out the bag
Great video. I have been saying this for a while “they look great turned on in my game room when I’m watching football or shooting pool”. They get played some - but not a ton.
I have 4 and the ultimate legends - that’s probably it for me. The prices are too high now and the quality hasn’t improved. Give us a bigger screen, no riser, and Sanwa controls and I’m in again - not sure why that’s so hard??
Ikr... how hard is it too change those 3 things?
I have 10 1ups and retired from them. Its hilarious how many more people are done with these.
The company is in trouble, if they don't create some buzz and announce some new ip's soon it's over
@@show-me-retro I heard they partnered with Raw Thrills. If that's the case, I'll consider Halo:Fireteam Raven if that releases.
Thank you for your honesty I was going to buy the killer instant cabinet seems like you’re saving me a lot of money and a lot of heartache and pain already have a real Arcade’s in my house that already came full assembled so once again thanks a lot I appreciate it And thanks for laughing at jumping on the bandwagon
No problem, glad I could help
Hey man, you might remember me from way back. I REALLY appreciate this video. I get people all the time leaving me comments on my old videos about why I haven't really made any vids in 2 years. 2 years!! Well, I've made a couple, but most of them have just been quick little "here's an updated tour of my game room" (and one review, but it was the MVSX), but nothing at all for over a year now. This video you've made here basically sums it up and really hits home. Like you said, they look nice. That's about all you can say about them. And you can dump $2k in to modding the shit out of them, and you still have this tiny thing that's 5 feet tall and built out of 75% 1/8" MDF with a couple 1/2" panels. You can put all the lipstick you want on a pig, and it's still a pig. I loved A1Up's vision when it was all really early, and just like you, I bought the Marvel LE and felt they were going in the right direction, but since then, things have been all over the place. I'm not aligned with A1Up's vision anymore, whatever their vision even is, which is a bigger problem because we can't even tell. Thanks for the vid man!
I agree 💯
I just sold my second cab... my Marvel LE and it felt like a weight lifted off my sholders. I have a replacement coming Sun. It's nothing special but still way better than both 1uos I sold. I will probably make a quick vid talking about it
Ohhh, now I made the connection... I seriously love your channel. You are very talented modder. Hopefully you will be making more content soon, I could learn a lot from you. Thanks for the comment and look forward to new videos!
@@show-me-retro I'm up for starting to make videos again. What would you personally like to see?
@@ArcadeSchool I'd really hate to tell you what content to make on your own channel. I know many of my subscribers would rather hear me do 1up content but that's not happening. I will say I enjoy lighthearted honest reviews, simple easy to follow mod tutorials that people like me can follow LOL and videos on topics where people speak from the heart and it shows. I look forward to your return
How many different ways do I need to play Pacman? Lol
That would make a great video 🤔
Great video. Like many I found them in 2018 and didn’t pay full price then. I’ve owned many full size cabinets over the years and know these 1ups are cheap toys. I’m baffled by the prices they are asking now when nothing has really improved or changed other than the aesthetics.
$600+ for a 1up is ludacris
I'm sorry but they have changed. I bought an Arcade1up back when they first came out in September 2018 and EVERYONE new they were cheap, cookie cutter shape toys but that didn't matter because you can upgrade any parts you wanted and still came out cheaper than buying a real arcade or multicade. That created a huge boom for the arcade aftermarket.
Today there are different shapes and sizes of cabinets, ever so slightly better parts, light up marquees, more powerful hardware to run more games, WIFI and many other things which resulted in Arcade1up pricing themselves out of a market they created.
No one asked to make Arcade1up cabinets to be more like the real ones with better parts and light up marquees. I blame Arcade1up for listening to RUclipsrs for all this mess.
@@sunquestenergyhomesolution96 I'm glad you're happy with 1up but I stand by what I said about these just being decor items.
@@show-me-retro They really are decor. Now they are overpriced decor for I don't even know who?
Yup. Their pro series sell for $1,000! I bought a REAL Galaga for $600 a few months ago.
Thanks for the honesty! I started feeling this exact way after Dragon's Lair released.
this aged like fine wine
thanks for this in-depth breakdown. I had one of these arcades as a 'maybe some day' idea, but this helped me realize that the workmanship is nowhere near what I would want for the spend. I'd sooner spend a few hours here and there over a few months building my own out of pine or something.
If you can find one on marketplace for cheap, like less that $200 they're alright but don't have high expectations... like I stated tbey are essentially decor
When you promise things that are on the box and don't work as such, that's a major problem with promising things weeks to months (if at all) later. Having to put quality parts in after the fact when you can get a quality pre-made cab or DIY for the cost just defeats the purpose. You can only put out the same games so much before people take notice along with the huge quality issues in regards to functionality. Great video man. This is also someone who has five of their games and I won't be buying any more from them for the aforementioned reasons and for taking advantage of people not realizing they're getting a full game with the last two titles. And a "pro" version for almost $1000 is nearing actual arcade game prices. Many will be out on those alone.
Well said. It will be interesting to see where 1up goes in the next few years... what kind of changes they make etc if any
100% Agreed. I started getting into Arcade1up machines a few years back and have been in the process of selling them off to make room for pinball machines (real machines, from Stern and Jersey Jack, not virtual ones). To be fair, the Arcade1Up machines served as a gateway drug that convinced me to create a mini home arcade in my basement, but at some point I just realized that they weren't cutting it for me and I needed the real thing.
Yeah, I gave 1up credit as a gateway to bigger and better things
That Costco MK cabinet was also my first (and only) Arcade 1Up. Now, as someone who has owned, and still owns, a full size cabinet, I pretty much knew what I was getting into. It really is a big, pretty toy, but I still enjoy it. Granted, I don't play it that often, but I'm happy I own it. I would like to own the Sega OutRun and Golden Axe cabinets, but I just don't have room, and really can't justify the price anymore. I haven't been keeping up on these, but I was stunned to see the cost of them now. $600 to 800, or more? No. Just, no. At that point, just spend a little more and get a MAME cabinet or something. And to be honest, I'm surprised Arcade 1Up is even still around. I expected them to be a flash in the pan and be gone in a year or so. I expected to see Craigslist flooded with old cabinets for $50, but that hasn't really happened.
Integrity. The value that guarantees all other values. Something lost by a lot of RUclipsrs. Thank you for your honesty!
Arcade 1Up is built for the Walmart crowd, not the enthusiasts, and anyone reviewing them for enthusiasts saying "mod this mod that" are just ... wrong. This is why I built my own arcade machine that stands 6' tall with a 27" monitor and Sanwa sticks. In my opinion if you're buying an Arcade 1Up it's for your 8 year old and you should expect him to break it in under a year.
Dude you don’t have to understand!!! I’m sure if I came to your home I could say the same thing about most of the stuff you have! Where does it end. I own a motorcycle that I have 40k invested in, can you understand that purchase? People buy what they like that’s all you have to understand.
Lol, thanks for for stopping by 👍
I have 8 cabs and a pinball, the MVC2 will likely be my last. The quality has been going down while prices have been going up
For sure, with every improvement there are always new issues that take away from them.
Bro can you recommend an arcade cabinet etc please ? I just want one cabinet with four players controls and multiple games already installed ready to go. Cheers buddy.
Getting a four player cab with games installed would probably be from a company that ells custom arcades which might be expensive. A1up makes 4 player cab butvin reality you're lucky to be able to play 2 player and they're just soo small
@@show-me-retro Ok but if my budget was about £750 then what ? I've seen that 4 stick ultimate thing but I presume that's not with a cabinet so maybe you could make a video of this please what you think? £750 to I guess £1000
Just bought 40th anniversary pac man black edition cocktail table 12 in 1, for 399.00. Sitting here in the box unopened ! Should I keep it, or return it ? Lol.
I mean in all honesty it's about price paid and expectations. If you didn't pay much and don't have high expectations you should be good. I have zero experience with a 1up cocktail but the main issue will be controls and buttons. Not sure about the quality of the monitor or wood used.
Great viewpoints. It is so sad when something doesn't live up to the expectations and love we have for the hobby.
What wait, you have a pinball machine that can play any game? How do I get that or build that? I love pinball but also wouldn't mind playing some old videos roms.
Atgames Legends Pinball
@@show-me-retro Cool, would you recommend getting that or somehow building something yourself?
I bought 2 then pretty much gave them away and got actual machines. Now I have a room full of actual industrial machines
The thing people keep forgetting with Arcade1up is has very limited options for games. They DO NOT own the rights to any of these games and have pay a licensing fee for EACH machine sold. They have never been a real arcade machine manufacturer. They fill a simple hobby niche market that has to focus on keeping the cost manageable while making some profits. Also, as much as people want to complain about the continual re-releases, there were never that many great arcade games that could justify fabricating an entirely new machine and pay the licensing fee for that one mediocre game you slightly remember. Arcades were always filled with a lot of lousy games so it seems rather stupid to suggest Arcade1up should introduce new titles that never existed.
i m 5.7 3/4 foot and i m comfortable playing them on a chair without any riser installed...that aside i understand where youre coming from on the cheapness of these oversized but cool (for me at least) toys eheh
I love your brutel honesty and I agree with most of what you're saying. The problem I have with 1up as you said they keep making mistakes with their cab. You shouldn't have to mod something that you're paying $600+ defeats the purpose.
People mod them because the experience is lackluster out of the box. But I refuse to mod them because it's like putting s V12 in a Pinto. What's the point of having a big fast motor when the car itself is still a pos
@@show-me-retro Exactly. 😂
I agree about the quality. I only ever purchased a series 1 Pacman and a riser both at a reduced price and then modded it right away with a pi4, real buttons and controls, stereo sound, a lit marquee, and a 20-inch dell 4:3 monitor. It plays thousands of games and a bunch of older consoles now. I don't have much space so this works for me. I just shake my head in disbelief every time I see A1U release another Pacman cabinet that just either has new artwork on the cabinet or a couple more games for hundreds more than what I spent originally, and they seem to be doing that a lot with other games lately. It would've been cool if they kept releasing other games but honestly how many versions of the same thing do they expect people to buy with the low-grade controls and that goofy 5:4 monitor.
I’m glad that you did your due diligence and found that you no longer want to support Arcade1Up at its current state. I agree with 100% of what you said. Thankfully, you haven’t fully let it affect your passion for arcades and retro games. Looking forward to more content.
I just sold one this morning so I feel good and got a good price for it considering. Thanks for the comment 👍
It saddens me to remember how excited I used to be for these things. Thankfully, I stopped at buying only 11. 🙄
I honestly still really like overall and play my Simpsons arcade cab from them, but I probably won't ever get another one, unless they are deeply discounted potentially, because I just enjoy going to the arcades more themselves and enjoy playing outside of my home with friends. Cheers and another great video my friend!
Yeah, deeply discounted is def the way to go.
I'm glad you put this out there! It's good to hear some honest opinions, and be warned about the quality of the product. Seems like they are only worth it if you get a killer deal and want a project.
One thing I would like to know is how do you recommend people get into arcade gaming without Arcade 1up?
Watch my follow up video
by far the most realistic review i've heard - this really applies to MVC2 - well done
Thanks brother
This dude is so right and still get backlash from people who don’t want to acknowledge that a lot of the arcade1ups aren’t any good. Speak the truth
This is the content we need right now.
I am new to this channel but I subscribed. Enjoyed the video. Looking forward to more.
Thanks, appreciate it
Would be cool if you came back to try out their XL line one time
That's not gonna happen. They still don't use real t- molding, the screen is still only 19" and they didn't add that much weight. I don't think they justify the price but I appreciate the comment.
Agree with Show-Me Retro. The XL would need “real” upgrades all the way around to make sense. Better monitor, cabinet, and controls. Worse yet, it’s going to be repeats of all the same cabs that they’ve already run into the ground. Too little, too late.
Dude, I totally love your honestly in your reviews and that is what I love. I've always been like Nah with the Arcade1up stuff, the TMNT one is the only one that almostt made me pull a trigger on it, but it was totally for the TMNT fandom not that it was actually Arcade1UP. I then realized that I have a BarTop arcade machine that I built with a raspberry pi and I have no room for that and I can play 1000s of games on it. I have no need for something that is goona take up room I don't have and only have 2 titles on it. Then like you said I would have to mod it anyways.
My expectations were just too high I guess with A1up. They are decor only at this point and at $600 they are a hard pass
What I've found with playing emulator handhelds is that these games just don't hold my attention but I think it would be fun to have 1 for when people come over. I don't think I'd make it my personality though.
First time seeing your channel! Liked
Thanks brother
I bought and have some, but they are games that either I dont want to dedicate the space to a full size arcade cabinets too. Or the game is so expensive, that i am fine with the arcade1up version, like star wars or major havoc, tempest, etc. I also dont pay full price when I do pick them up.
They got Star Wars right, I've said it before and I would say it's their best by far
@@show-me-retro ahhh maybe I will pick up a Star Wars 1-up then… what is a fair price for it, if you would pick it up used?
@@volt8ge I've never seen one used for less than $500. They are sought after.
@@show-me-retro thank you!
Yeah, I agree about the quality. My first and probably last 1up I bought was mvc2. The buttons are really bad on it. I couldn't even DP. I thought I was just bad at it, since I've never actually played an arcade version of the game before. I ended up getting sanwa buttons and noticed an immediate difference. I was able to DP and the buttons were more responsive. For $600 you'd think it would be better with the buttons and sticks. Plus there's still no online.
How much would an actual pro level full-size arcade machine replica cost?
You can buy kits from gameroom solutions or microcrnter that honestly aren't much more than a retail 1up and the quality is vastly better
@ 5:54 this man is CLEARLY playing Footsies with Guile's Fierce Punch lol
LOL, clearly
Dang!!!! This makes me feel so much better! When I first began hearing about these things and then I saw one in Walmart I was like these are so little and delicate looking! If I bought one and let my sons middle school friends play on it they would destroy it, not because they were abusive but just kids using something not designed for normal play! Yet I keep seeing RUclips videos extolling how great there were!
Yeah, as long as you don't have high expectations and you get one on the cheap... like 200 or less you'll probably be alright with one. Otherwise you'll probably be disappointed
Just built Dragons Lair today and control panel entirely unresponsive. On/off works but stick, buttons, even volume switch do nothing rendering my new cab unplayable. Don’t know if it’s a bad port, bad wire, or something loose inside cpu behind monitor. Everything is hooked up correctly. Any suggestions on a fix without waiting months for new parts would be greatly appreciated.
Oh wow, sorry to hear that. It's really hard to say since there's not much going on inside there. If nothing is loose then it probably needs new control panel
@@show-me-retro thanks man
@@lethalwolf7455 Their customer service is better than it used to be if that's any consolation. Good luck brother
I got the now sold out pro version to have one that’s close to full size. I can’t have real cabs in my room. Size, weight, etc. Simpsons, TMNT in Time can be modded to play more games without replacing the hardware with a keyboard and mouse.
I'm 5'7 and these machines are way too small for me as well. I never understood the hype for these things. There are so many paths to go that gets you in the end a way better machine. Great video Pat!
Thanks, appreciate it brother. Are you still happy with your ALP? Would love to have a conversation with you about that.
I really do like my ALP but I would be lying if I said I spend a lot of time playing it. I really do need to jump back into it but I have the attention span of a nat. Lol
@@midwestmediashow8863 did you hook up.a pc to it?
No but I have seen it done on other channels. I was thinking about trying it out.
@@midwestmediashow8863 I haven't either although I play fx3 via my Switch and it's actually pretty fun although no backglass support but I have the vibs board but never installed yet LOL
Hey! That was 1984 in Branson. Been there a couple times. Great arcade! Highly recommended! Glad you made it there.
Yeah, I did a video on our visit there. It's an awesome place
@@show-me-retro Nice. I'll go look it up. And subbed. Good video as well
@@atariforever2002 appreciate it
I first really liked the idea of 1up as yes the machines were smaller recreations but the price of entry into home arcade was really pretty low, so I could make that trade off. However, a few years later they would already start rereleasing these machines and doubling the price. At 600 to 700 a pop, it got more and more worth it to just spend more for an actual machine instead of buying 2 or 3 of these little 1up machines. So I agree with a lot of what you are saying after buying just a couple of these machines.
My video was exactly what you just said
@Show-Me Retro It certainly was and I couldn't agree more. First time viewing your channel btw. I enjoy your videos!
@@BAM5636 thanks brother
Hey man if your done with arcade 1up do you have the burger time cab? If so and you don't want it would you be interested in selling it top me?
I do.no have that one lol, sorry but I have my marvel LE and MK on marketplace now
Agree with this. Though I do enjoy the partycades as playable decoration (just a few) as you said.
Great video
I agree with your point of view.
These cabs are not with the money. There are various companies that make custom-made arcade machines. All reviewers should be honest.
I didn't even know the Amico had a community lol. I am looking for an arcade machine but just didn't like arcade 1up. I thought about the UMK cab because it is only like 250 right now at Walmart. It is my favorite game but I am leery about the buttons. The only issue is that UMK3 has such a unique controller layout that if I get a normal 6 button arcade machine with multiple games, it will never be the same. Good video and breakdown man. Thanks for this.
This video was AWESOME!! Thank you for making this! 🤙
Thanks for your honesty & keeping it real 💯
Fellow MO resident here, just found your channel looking forward to more!
What part of MO?
@@show-me-retro Marshall. Just north of Sedalia off 70 & 65
@@brittzank8987 nice
@@show-me-retro started game collecting 2 yrs ago. I've come so close to getting 1ups but they just always seemed too expensive for what they look. After this video makes me happy wjrh my non-purchase
@@brittzank8987 if you can find one on marketplace for cheap you might be happy with it... just don't have high expectations and make sure to get a stool LOL
I'd never pay full price but for the heavily discounted prices I bought 2 for I don't regret it at all. Sounds like you suffered burnout.
What was that 32 pin ball arcade deal u were playing?
Atgames Legends Pinball
John D is a shyster.
I love your honesty. I have four Arcade1up's and I enjoy them for what they are but they have become to expensive and the customer service sucks. I also didn't like that depending on where you purchase one you end up with one without a lit marquee, no riser, and no stool and some other place has everything for the same price if not cheaper. And that pretty much killed it for me.
Amazing video. I think most people agree with what you say. The issue is their channels would not get the views they do if "1up" isn't in the title.
Thanks Kev, you and I i feel came from similar circumstances... driven by nostalgia but ultimately feeling the need for something more.
@@show-me-retro 1up and rexer pushed me to buy a real golden tee.. and there is no feeling in the world like playing a real arcade
@@kevgret absolutely, no comparison
@@kevgret yeah. Now stop ducking me so I can win my title back !!!
The reason people by arcade1up is because they want a home arcade/ for a man cave and gameroom. Size and weight matter. Price matter and ease of maintenance vs real arcade cabs. Real arcade cost 1500 plus where i live. Arcade1up got greedy . At the old prices no one cares. At the new price ponit arcade1up are make money on hardcore fan base and when they drop in price they still make money. Arcade1up use cheap parts to maximize profits like all business.
Bravo!!!! Finally, someone said what I’ve been thinking for so long… and I pose this question, if these machines are so great, then why do the majority of people end up modding them or getting rid of them? Just saying…
They are decor, nothing more
I ve been wanting an infinity table but don't want to waste my money. Love the idea, but look at that product, it's been out for a year or more and they have done very little with it as far as games and content.
I have a friend who bought one, he said he could count on one hand how many times he's used it
@@show-me-retro so unfortunate too. It was a great idea. But arcade1up seems to have abandoned it. Happy to get the quick sale but then on to the next half finished quick sale product. Same with the pinball machines ot would seem (at least it is a good product out of the box) but it clearly had so much more potential that we are seeming from the team encoder guys... but why isn't arcade1up supporting this type of stuff? We ve heard zen is totally on board for pushing more from the product.... again, get something out to get the big sale and move on to the next
I've always thought of the Arcade 1up as a toy for kids. But even then they are much more expensive than they ought to be and you are lucky if you get only a few games. For a minute I thought about picking one up on craigslist and making a cheap MAME out of it but the quality of the controls and the displays are sub-par and I would end up replacing everything anyway. I totally understand the nostalgia though and people wanting to have that arcade experience. I think these fill a void for people wanting that nostalgia but don't want to know or care about a full-mame cabinet. I think any gaming enthusiast who has played around with emulation and the potential will see these as a toy and nothing else.
Exactly, well said
Appreciate your insight into A1up. I have a few buy until they are perfect out of the box it's a no go. Would you be able to shoot a link or be able to show me where you get the atgames pinball with the vertical games on it.
It's just running coinops through a mini usb
Partycade with $30 button/stick replacement, $50 pi4 and $30 adapter to connect the LCD to the pi, works pretty good and is cost effective.
I'm a developer for numerous single board computers, so I opted to put an odroid h2+ x86 board into mine. Now it runs killer instinct, Dreamcast, Naomi, atomiswave, psp and anything earlier I want. Psp and Dreamcast have the same 6 buttons as my sf2 partycade. I took the white led bar out and added 2 rgb bars with remote into the marquee.
Your best bet is a sbc with retroarch and netplay.
I strongly advise if you get an arcade 1up, you want to use it for it's shell and casing and make some internal changes. It will dramatically improve the experience.
The letterkenny clip, hahahha, im Canadian.....awesome. great video b.t.w.
Bruv, a lot of what you mentioned I also saw a couple years ago. I was really determined to get a SF2 A1UP cabinet and mod it because I knew it was kinda crap. That wouldn’t fix the size but I could at least fix other things and add a PC for some more games.
Then I discovered the AtGames Legends Ultimate. Bought one of those and while it’s not perfect, I’m glad I didn’t get sucked in to a A1UP purchase. Don’t get me wrong, the LU isn’t perfect but I’m pretty happy with it and know it was a better purchase than the SF2 cabinet I wanted.
I think there’s a place for the A1UP machines, but it’s not in the home of an arcade enthusiast.
Legit down to earth brother- agreed- moved my three from the house to my shop and have them on just for the nostalgia when folks come in -
Yup, they are great decor but that's it for me 👍
Yeah I actually had no idea about the woes of the 1up world until today I was about to snag the NFL Blitz for here at my computer repair shop- messaged the wife, she said uh no.
It’s on sale! $449
No.
Then I was looking at modding options and how expensive that can get and then saw your videos and was like wow this guy is right. I’m on board with you good sir and now am subscribed. Thanks for the great content!
@kendallbeckwith335 I appreciate it. There are other good options, especially on the second hand market as a good alternative to an A1up
Thank you for saying what I've been saying to people since these things came out. People may hate emulation but I have 2 full sized cabs playing all the games I want to play on arcade monitors. I'd choose those 2 cabs over any arcade1up anybody could ever offer me. Kudos to you and you gained a sub.
Appreciate it. I will be multicade in the near future... no more 1ups
100% agree that at the price point, they are not worth it. But if you can get them cheap second hand on marketplace, totally worth it. They are cool and fun to have and fun to play at a certain price point.
Dude, I respect your thoughts on the Arcade 1up. There is no doubt they are sub par machines. No fret in you owning your feelings.
Thanks Andy, appreciate it. Hope all is well brother 🍻