“Why am I the first Kinnock, in a thousand generation’s to get to university, was it because they were thick?” “Of course not, it was because there was no platform, Upon which they could stand.” Absolutely brilliant, spot on! We need to learn from this man’s message today!
you know guys...forget that he is labour and listen to the passionate speech from the labour conf in 1985.......its about opportunity, strength, courage and most of all the life that many Welsh people lived in earlier times when there was no platform for a way to get to univ or to get on in life.....pity the whole speech is not here.....a prime minister? maybe not......but this speech rates highly in my books and i'm not a labour supporter lol
Neil Kinnock was a Legend to Liverpool. Militant and The Loony Left must never be Allowed to to Rise Again. The Labour Council need to put a Statue Up For This This Man.
Ironic that you wrote this 11 years ago considering the events that have happened since. But Labour have learnt their lesson (again, but at least it was quick this time around). Finally, Britain is back.
Christopher Hitchens referred to this (in a C-SPAN overview from the time of the election), how it bumped Kinnock 14 points in the polls overnight. Hitchens credits the part at 7:14 where Kinnock asks why he and his wife are the first of 1000 generations to go to university. Not because the others were thick or weak or lacked talent, but because Kinnock's generation were the first to have a platform, a party to represent them. (The Hitchens video was "Christopher Hitchens on class inequality and Margaret Thatcher".)
Watching this broadcast, I find it funny to hear Kinnock described as a young man, almost as if he had just graduated from college, when in fact he was already 41 in the summer of 1983.
This is an immensely beautiful and powerful broadcast, but it's not an election winner. It makes Kinnock seem a very sympathetic character, even if in reality he was a traitor to the cause. He was a magnificent orator, perhaps one of the best of the 20th century, but this is all he talks about, himself, whilst echoing some vague political sentiments of working class pride. He was very good at invoking passion in committed Labour voters, but was woeful at converting swing voters, which unfortunately is what you need to win an election. This broadcast doesn't show us the dreadful hardship Thatcher's Britain had created, because it presumes that the audience *already knows* this, it doesn't explain how Labour will get Britain out of the crisis, because it is confident that with a lot of fancy words people will be emotionally inclined to vote for *what is morally righteous.* If you compare this to the Conservative's 1987 broadcast, that really incites *fear* of a Labour government and what that would do to people's standard of living and effect on public services based on the Winter of Discontent. The 2017 Labour broadcast was absolutely genius because it showed deprivation and echoed popular sentiments, but also highlighted these things for voters who were unaware of them, and outlined policies that Labour would take to *rebuild Britain.* Political broadcasts can be as beautiful and as moving as can be, but if the policies and arguments of the opposition are not dealt with, you won't win swing voters.
A traitor? He either had to save Labour or it died. The irony of tat protestor Hatton is like Burnham a slick mullet haired scouser you could imagine Burnham shouting at starner the same..
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“Why am I the first Kinnock, in a thousand generation’s to get to university, was it because they were thick?” “Of course not, it was because there was no platform, Upon which they could stand.” Absolutely brilliant, spot on! We need to learn from this man’s message today!
you know guys...forget that he is labour and listen to the passionate speech from the labour conf in 1985.......its about opportunity, strength, courage and most of all the life that many Welsh people lived in earlier times when there was no platform for a way to get to univ or to get on in life.....pity the whole speech is not here.....a prime minister? maybe not......but this speech rates highly in my books and i'm not a labour supporter lol
Neil Kinnock was a Legend to Liverpool.
Militant and The Loony Left must never be Allowed to to Rise Again.
The Labour Council need to put a Statue Up For This This Man.
Ironic that you wrote this 11 years ago considering the events that have happened since.
But Labour have learnt their lesson (again, but at least it was quick this time around). Finally, Britain is back.
Christopher Hitchens referred to this (in a C-SPAN overview from the time of the election), how it bumped Kinnock 14 points in the polls overnight. Hitchens credits the part at 7:14 where Kinnock asks why he and his wife are the first of 1000 generations to go to university. Not because the others were thick or weak or lacked talent, but because Kinnock's generation were the first to have a platform, a party to represent them.
(The Hitchens video was "Christopher Hitchens on class inequality and Margaret Thatcher".)
And US Vice President Joe Biden liked the speech so much he pinched it!
Thank you for sharing this.
@@pickledegg1989 He did?
_From Hugh Hudson, who gave you_ Chariots of Fire, _comes... progressive social change, but nothing too radical._
KINNOCK! The Musical
So much charisma
More like my mp Damian Green it's that Welsh thing
New Labour Party same old danger
Hahahaha now clear and present harrison ford with griffith and Weaver.. working girls on starmers arms..
Neil Kinnock could have been a great prime minister
I blame mandelson he's been terrible for Labour
Watching this broadcast, I find it funny to hear Kinnock described as a young man, almost as if he had just graduated from college, when in fact he was already 41 in the summer of 1983.
I know. 41? He's fucking ancient.
@@Clydesider711 Yeah; it would have made him the youngest PM since Lord North. ; )
@@jackmatthew1880 We could have done a great deal worse.
Did kinnock ever define in which way he was ‘strong’
This commercial was referenced in this Spitting Image skit: ruclips.net/video/N1rJW2P2rFY/видео.html
This is an immensely beautiful and powerful broadcast, but it's not an election winner. It makes Kinnock seem a very sympathetic character, even if in reality he was a traitor to the cause. He was a magnificent orator, perhaps one of the best of the 20th century, but this is all he talks about, himself, whilst echoing some vague political sentiments of working class pride. He was very good at invoking passion in committed Labour voters, but was woeful at converting swing voters, which unfortunately is what you need to win an election.
This broadcast doesn't show us the dreadful hardship Thatcher's Britain had created, because it presumes that the audience *already knows* this, it doesn't explain how Labour will get Britain out of the crisis, because it is confident that with a lot of fancy words people will be emotionally inclined to vote for *what is morally righteous.*
If you compare this to the Conservative's 1987 broadcast, that really incites *fear* of a Labour government and what that would do to people's standard of living and effect on public services based on the Winter of Discontent. The 2017 Labour broadcast was absolutely genius because it showed deprivation and echoed popular sentiments, but also highlighted these things for voters who were unaware of them, and outlined policies that Labour would take to *rebuild Britain.* Political broadcasts can be as beautiful and as moving as can be, but if the policies and arguments of the opposition are not dealt with, you won't win swing voters.
A traitor? He either had to save Labour or it died. The irony of tat protestor Hatton is like Burnham a slick mullet haired scouser you could imagine Burnham shouting at starner the same..