Some TRUTHS behind Sports Broadcast "Homers"

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @brodiebrazil
    @brodiebrazil  День назад +6

    I actually think it's okay to be a "homer" in a lot of cases.... it's expected
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  • @MrRicklynch57
    @MrRicklynch57 День назад +26

    Jon Miller was the best at turning the switch from local announcer to National announcer. I think it’s because Jon and Joe had a great relationship and they could tell stories and talk forever. Then Jon had the same home run call with the same enthusiasm for every batter. There are few storytellers today in baseball. It is a storytelling sport.

    • @craigcavaliere6744
      @craigcavaliere6744 День назад +2

      Miller was good on the Sunday night games, but Joe Morgan was biased. Nobody was ever as good as the Big Red Machine according to him.

    • @wmw3629
      @wmw3629 14 часов назад

      They were a fantastic team. Jon Miller is pure class and can be very funny. I miss Joe’s insights and enthusiasm.

    • @robertewalt7789
      @robertewalt7789 10 часов назад

      @@MrRicklynch57 Isn’t Jon Miller still calling games for his local team? And yes, baseball is a great story telling sport.

    • @MrRicklynch57
      @MrRicklynch57 9 часов назад

      @ he does, what does that have to do with him formerly calling national games?

    • @Bc232klm
      @Bc232klm 8 часов назад +1

      Love Jon Miller. Still try to catch a few Giants games just to listen to him.

  • @fixpacifica
    @fixpacifica День назад +24

    What I hate are broadcasters who are afraid to say anything negative about a team because they're paid by the team.

    • @JD_Walker
      @JD_Walker День назад +2

      @fixpacifica I agree with this, and this is the biggest issue and why there should always be a place for independent journalists/podcasters covering a team. Also, in many cases fans want “homers” who sound like them and respond positively to it.
      Another issue (I fall into this one myself with the teams I cover for Stream Punk Sports) is that independent media folks that don’t have a big legacy media apparatus (TV network, big newspapers) backing them up have to thread a fine needle where they want to be optimistic but also realistic. When a team is bad it can be tough to find the sweet spot of criticizing a team but then the team gets upset about it and retaliates against the independent journalist (implicitly or explicitly threatening credential access). So many have to go into the “unintentional Homer and overly optimistic” to try to bridge that gap and stay in good graces of the team they cover. It’s a delicate balance which creates a mishmash of messaging for a fanbase.

    • @valeriekeefe8898
      @valeriekeefe8898 День назад +1

      Well, we've seen how corrupt and cowardly everyone got the last 5 years... Fans just want announcers who remind them of them.

    • @Barrett619
      @Barrett619 10 часов назад

      You gotta go to Houston. They (used to) talk mad shit about their teams. It’s one of my favorite markets because of it 😂

    • @kjorlaug1
      @kjorlaug1 3 часа назад +1

      Way back in the 1980s when the Braves just sucked, longtime Braves announcer said, "And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field", live on air.

  • @bradjtrains
    @bradjtrains День назад +22

    I am good with homer announcers on regional networks. When its a national broadcast and you can clearly see and hear that some announcer or color commentator has their lips firmly planted on one teams rear end, that I have a problem with. CBS and ESPN cannot help themselves at all with the NY/PIT bias. Now, on the other hand, I am grateful to watch Capitals games on Monumental Sports network with the 2 best in the business in Joe Beninati and. Craig Laughlin. They are biased towards Washington, but do recognize great play from the opponents and have been together for over 25 years so there is great chemistry and banter.

    • @maxpowr90
      @maxpowr90 День назад +1

      I remember Eddie Olczyk having to color comment the Bruins-Capitals series in 2021, and he was insufferable. Couldn't say anything nice about either team and just wanted to be somewhere else.

  • @michaelbaucom4019
    @michaelbaucom4019 День назад +14

    Mike Krukow and Duane Kuiper for the Giants are " homers ", but, they're HONEST, and will point out the Giants' flaws. There are some " homers " who aren't honest

  • @pringlized
    @pringlized День назад +7

    Brodie you are top shelf man. I love your breadth and depth you bring to every segment you produce. Keep up the great work! I am a fan for life.

  • @v1__rotate
    @v1__rotate 22 часа назад +4

    Jack Edwards the classic example of being the worst kind of Homer possible

    • @Kevin_C_Leonard_63
      @Kevin_C_Leonard_63 7 часов назад +1

      Spoken by someone who must not have any memory of the late Johnny Most, the longtime Celtics radio announcer, who was the very definition of a homer. Like others of his era he called the action solo so his opinions were all you heard when the ball stopped moving.

    • @chrisolson2846
      @chrisolson2846 6 часов назад +1

      According to jack, nobody is allowed to touch any bruins players and every call goes against Boston

  • @jimstewart7035
    @jimstewart7035 21 час назад +2

    Used to love Hawk Harrelson on White Sox games Not a Sox fan but loved listening to him with his "good Guys" for the Sox and "Bad guys" for the opposition among all his other stuff he would say during a game. It gave me a lot of laughs watching the games!

  • @mikepuncsak7297
    @mikepuncsak7297 День назад +3

    First it was Howard 'I never played the game' Cosell , then.Keith Jackson,Chris Economaki , Red Barber, Bill King, Jim Rome and now Brodie Brazil....These men have shaped my sporting life

  • @chrism70kc
    @chrism70kc День назад +8

    Please don't use AI - it hurts creatives who put care and effort into their art.

  • @briandonegan8480
    @briandonegan8480 День назад +20

    Local sports broadcasters should be homers or I don't want to listen to them.

    • @sunny1992s
      @sunny1992s День назад +4

      SNY(NY Mets) is the perfect standard of a homer. Ron Darling and Keith Harnandez were on the iconic 86 team; and Gary grew up in NYC. They love the Mets and want to see them succeed; but they are unafraid to call their team out when the Mets arent performing(Think of Gary Cohen's: Nobody in the ballpark. 0-5. Hitless through 7[innings]. This feels like rock bottom).

  • @LarryWeinreb
    @LarryWeinreb День назад +16

    TBS had Skip Caray, Pete Van Wieren, Ernie Johson and Don Sutton for decades - they were a great broadcast crew...but were 100% Braves homers and we loved it!

  • @jeremyd1869
    @jeremyd1869 4 дня назад +13

    Vin Scully was a homer, but he was also a great sports broadcaster. One if the greats. Bill King, too, although more regional. I prefer the announcers for my teams be homers, so long as they can report objectively on the other team.

    • @luissantoyo27
      @luissantoyo27 День назад +3

      I watched Vin from 1999 until his retirement and can’t remember him ever being a homer. He was the epitome of neutral, down-the-middle broadcasting. He rarely ever took stances on controversial things.

    • @danielzendejas3911
      @danielzendejas3911 22 часа назад

      I listened and watched Vin, God rest his soul, since the late 70s and he was never a homer. Sure he wanted to see the Dodgers win, but he stated himself he wasn’t a Dodger fan. His favorite player was Willie Mays who was a Giant, the Dodgers arch rival.

    • @ceave
      @ceave 16 часов назад

      Vin would always tell a long story about a player of the opposing team. How they grew up, the origin of the nickname, his favorite food from his home country and so on.

    • @pinverarity
      @pinverarity 11 часов назад

      Vin Scully was the model of the NON-homer announcer. You quite literally could not be more wrong.

  • @davidnoticiero6728
    @davidnoticiero6728 День назад +3

    Having grown up in LA, I was fortunate to have grown up listening to Vin Scully on Dodger broadcasts. Even as a rabid Dodger fan it was so enriching to hear Vin being neutral and sharing the backstory of opponents to the point that you empathized with a rival. It helped me develop as a Dodger partisan to a baseball fan, most broadcasts now are to various degrees being homers to the detriment of game, it's one aspect as to why baseball is so regional, if a local team doesn't qualify or is eliminated from the playoffs, that market's ratings will tank, but in the NFL and to a lesser extent the NBA, even if a local team is not playing there is a much greater interest in watching teams from outside markets play. Case in point a regular season Thursday Night matchup between Jacksonville and Tennessee will likely outdraw an Atlanta vs. Boston World Series game.

    • @geoff3103
      @geoff3103 День назад +3

      so lucky we had it with LA broadcasters. Vin, Bob and Chick. A hat trick.

    • @danielzendejas3911
      @danielzendejas3911 22 часа назад +2

      Chick Hearn was a prime example of NOT being a homer. When the Lakers stunk it up, he let them have it. 🏀

  • @tubefreeeasy
    @tubefreeeasy День назад +12

    Homer: Ken “the Hawk” Harrelson

  • @petermczip9011
    @petermczip9011 День назад +5

    Vin Scully did many nationally broadcast game for different sports but as many times I've seen the Kirk Gibson homerun in the 1988 WS, it might as well been a Dodgers' broadcast.

    • @craigcavaliere6744
      @craigcavaliere6744 День назад +3

      How so? He captured the excitement of the moment, just as Jack Buck did on radio.

  • @thomasjoseph3488
    @thomasjoseph3488 День назад +4

    You're right about all the factors that combine to make us who we are and form our opinions/perceptions/biases. Sports teams are a part of these things. This is why, losing one's team (as Expos and A's fans know first-hand) is traumatic. Rays fans - fight to keep your team and don't be cavalier about it!

  • @Jasontyo
    @Jasontyo День назад +4

    I love homers, I tune into teams home broadcasts instead of my away broadcast on the road just to hear the homers.

  • @YoureMyBoyBlue24
    @YoureMyBoyBlue24 День назад +1

    I find the timing of this to be interesting coming right after the Warriors' broadcasters finding no fault with Draymond's latest outburst last night. That was the definition of blind "homerism."

  • @edtruxal4693
    @edtruxal4693 19 часов назад

    And great job Brodie. Thanks for being real, and being that professional.

  • @charliem9831
    @charliem9831 День назад +2

    I spent weekend after Christmas in Pittsburgh and hot damn, the Penguin announcers, the entire broadcast team are the definition of homers.

  • @scottNNJ
    @scottNNJ День назад +2

    This might have been my comment that precipitated this video - if so, thanks for covering it! Interesting how you brought up the Dodgers announcer in the World Series. Generally, I think the championship games always get the best announcers - I remember Mike Emrick announcing the Devils/Red Wings Stanley Cup final in 1995. I thought he was fantastic (he’s arguably the best in the business) having known him from the Devils broadcasts, but I wonder how Red Wings fans felt.

  • @n8doggy733
    @n8doggy733 День назад +5

    I love my homers, my top three are Mark Jones, Bob Fitzgerald, Kilenna Azabuike. Lets Go!!! ❤

  • @KristianWontroba
    @KristianWontroba День назад

    Best situation is when you have a local broadcast duo where one is a "tough love"/passionate kinda homer (color commentator) with the other is playing the straight role (play-by-play person).

  • @zttz
    @zttz День назад +4

    The number of times Bob Fitzgerald would say things like “the Warriors won three of the four quarters”…

  • @fansince68
    @fansince68 День назад +2

    I never mind homerism. In today sports' broadcasting, the thing that annoys me the most is HYPE. We get so much of it, it really becomes sickening. Much prefer an announcer that understates the action.

    • @TuxedoEarth
      @TuxedoEarth День назад +1

      Too focused on trying to sound cool and hip instead of putting more focus on the game.

  • @drgti16v
    @drgti16v День назад +1

    Great video Brodie.

  • @henrymanzano2201
    @henrymanzano2201 День назад +4

    I think what happens,and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there are situations in sports broadcasting where the team owner,or the network owner (in many cases,as you know,the team and network owner are one and the same) obliges the broadcaster to never say anything bad about the team,and if there's negativity,it's directed at the opponent. Here in New York,for example,the Knicks and Rangers can NEVER be criticized, because of the owner's pressure. Meanwhile,with the Islanders,it's a case of the latter. Obviously,it's often true, but there are instances where it sounds like they're trying to sway the fans into saying "Oh,wow,the other team is really dirty"

  • @ericwebb5967
    @ericwebb5967 День назад +3

    The great Monte Moore was the ultimate Homer. But he had to play it straight on the national broadcasts during the World Series.
    Pretty cool the telecasts back in the day would feature the voice of each team in the WS.
    Hank Greenwald was the best though. Great stories and exuberant when things went well.
    Great stories and eloquently miserable when things didn’t.

    • @jamesteach540
      @jamesteach540 День назад +1

      I believe Monte Moore is still living in Porterville - “God’s Country” as he used to say - at age 94.

  • @doe3886
    @doe3886 День назад +5

    The MLB announcer referring to the home team as the "good guys" and the visitors as "bad" always rubbed me the wrong way. Especially when you try to teach in youth sports the other team is the opponent not the enemy.

    • @scottNNJ
      @scottNNJ День назад +4

      You remind me of a time I was talking to my young son (maybe 3 or 4 years old at the time) about hockey and all the different teams in the league, and I said “but we don’t like the Rangers”. (We are fans of the rival Devils).
      He responded with “Why not? They’re nice people.” I was speechless. I must admit, he got a win over his old man at that moment.

  • @kevinpotter2288
    @kevinpotter2288 День назад +1

    I lived in Pittsburgh for a number of years. The trick in "the Burgh" during Steeler Games was to turn on the TV and turn down the sound and listen to the local radio broadcast. People loved Myron Cope's commentary. I'm okay with homers, some of those people make listening to the home team broadcast fun and the things they say become a part of the hometown language. "Yoi and double yoi."

    • @edalder2000
      @edalder2000 День назад

      Yup. I would visit my grandma in Pittsburgh and we'd bond over The Steelers. Grandma and I would watch games together. She would criticize the pre-game show, players on both teams and especially The TV broadcasters. Grandma would say that the network announcer were against The Steelers. So-Grandma would go listen to Myron.

  • @tommypastena2901
    @tommypastena2901 21 час назад +1

    A lot of color analysts were former players for the teams they are broadcasting for and were fan favorites. so there is an aspect of rooting from that too. They are usually honest over the play of the game by both teams but over celebrate when their team scores or makes a great play.

  • @ultimatemaitai
    @ultimatemaitai День назад +2

    I don't love the AI art in the thumbnail

  • @robertewalt7789
    @robertewalt7789 День назад +4

    As a Yankee fan, I quickly tired of John Sterling’s shtick. Listened to Yankee games in the opponent’s broadcast.

    • @guyfaux3978
      @guyfaux3978 День назад

      He sucked. Even Phil Rizzuto was better, and HE sucked.

    • @robertewalt7789
      @robertewalt7789 10 часов назад

      @ Both were homers of course. At least Rizzuto told some interesting stories.

    • @guyfaux3978
      @guyfaux3978 9 часов назад

      @@robertewalt7789 In between plugging all his friends' bussinesses... ;-)

  • @matthew01234
    @matthew01234 День назад +3

    I think the only time homerism is actually a problem is if a journalist is a beat writer or announcer for one team but is a homer for another team. I know a lot of people would say that a former Braves announcer was actually a homer for the Cubs who was his former team. People said he would get excited when the Cubs did well even against the Braves. Then he move teams to the Cardinals and St. Louis fans complained that he did the same thing by appearing to root for the Braves even when they played the Cardinals. There was a specific play he was called out for when Austin Riley homered against the Cardinals an he was the Cardinals play-by-play announcer and appeared to get excited and happy about the home run. I'm not sure it was really that big of a deal. Probably way overblown. But I can see if an announcer were to actually be very biased in that way it could obviously be a bad thing because that is the opposite of what he is supposed to do. It does get a little irritating too if a national announcer is clearly biased as well. Either way not that big of a deal. Great video BrodieBrazil.

  • @jjraider9168
    @jjraider9168 День назад +4

    4:10 that's worse than a Homer, that's what I call a Galzer.

  • @jimwoodruff5091
    @jimwoodruff5091 День назад +3

    College football radio announcers are the perfect example of “homers”; and having lived in SEC Country for nearly 20 years, that’s not a bad thing. Homers bring an additional level of excitement to what can be a lackluster matchup (Alabama- Kentucky) and stoke the flames of traditional rivalries (Iron Bowl, Egg Bowl, etc).

  • @Tomasitooo
    @Tomasitooo День назад +1

    Happy New Year 🎆 🎊 🎉 Brodie 🇧🇷!!

  • @Scantronimus466
    @Scantronimus466 День назад +2

    Possible homer-sexual?

  • @DANZIG138
    @DANZIG138 21 час назад +1

    In todays day in age in digital streaming you should be able to choose which announcer you hear

  • @darlawittmier1793
    @darlawittmier1793 День назад +1

    Happy New Year 🎉

  • @dcfog81
    @dcfog81 День назад +2

    I'm not completely opposed to favoritism for local broadcasts, but I just don't like it when it hurts the quality of describing to the audience what is happening in the game.
    Example: August 3, 2003 NY Yankees vs Oakland Athletics. I was visiting Las Vegas, and couldn't find a way to watch the game, but I found out that they had the Yankees radio broadcast. A's were down 1 in the bottom of the 9th facing Rivera. Ellis on 3rd. Chavez on 1st. Reigning MVP Tejada hits a double in the gap. All John Sterling said was something like "The ball gets all the way to the wall, and the game is over". I'm thinking, "What is happening? I guess Ellis scored. Where is Chavez? Is he rounding 3rd? Is there a play? I don't know!" I just had to assume all of that happened. Something exciting was happening against the greatest closer ever, no less, which was rare; and there was barely any description. That's when it gets ridiculous.

  • @mattyc2200
    @mattyc2200 День назад

    Toronto was never allowed to have a tv homer because their broadcast was too big to have something like that, adam wilde of SDPN would explain it so much better than I ever could.

  • @TwonVonJon
    @TwonVonJon День назад

    I really don't like subscriptions and all that, but the great thing about the ESPN+ is that you can select which broadcast you want to listen to. Being a Sharks fan living in Florida, and who works at night, I can watch the games and listen to Randy and Drew and they are great. You can tell they both love the Sharks, but they give you great info about the other team and they really aren't too biased. They are great. I'm from NJ and as a kid I would have to sneak and stay up late with the volume off so I could occasionally watch a Sharks game on national TV that didn't end until 1 AM + in the east coast. So I really do like that I can actually use ESPN+ to watch the games now 20 years later.
    Watching other broadcasts just aren't as good. Doc and Chico from back in the day in NJ were great so shout out to them.

  • @guyfaux3978
    @guyfaux3978 День назад

    The biggest "homer" call was a HR-- "The Giants win the pennant!" Remember, Russ Hodges was NOT the ONLY one doing that famous game-- Red Barber was doing the game for the Dodgers, too.

  • @JD200_
    @JD200_ День назад

    The jays broadcast is the perfect balance imo. They love the jays players but really appreciate and talk up the other teams players

  • @Mike.T.
    @Mike.T. День назад

    I'm a Pirates fan and I definitely prefer my homer announcers. I want to hear guys calling the game that knows the players, talk to them daily, and has been there through the good and the bad of my team.

  • @n2da9
    @n2da9 День назад +2

    lol I don’t rlly mind it cuz I’m just here for the sports news and Brody, but when I saw the AI thumbo, I knew people wouldn’t like it. Hella ppl in other communities despise any use of AI, but I also understand you wanted to remove the personal factor from the term “Homer” in the thumbnail.

  • @ghowardgilbert2281
    @ghowardgilbert2281 23 часа назад

    The biggest Homer broadcast for me was the 2006 World Series, Cardinals v Tigers. Fox announcers were Tim McCarver and Joe Buck. McCarver was a Cardinal catcher for most if not all of his career including 1968 when the Tigers beat the highly favored Cardinals. Joe Buck’s father Jack was a longtime Cardinal broadcaster so little Joey (sorry not a fan of his) grew up in a Cardinal household. Needless to say, that 2006 WS broadcast was so one sided with these two Homers that many of us Tiger fans turned to the radio for the verbal content of the games.

  • @MrMaelstrom07
    @MrMaelstrom07 День назад +1

    Speaking of Homer's. I always thought the MLB Home Run Derby broadcast should feature all the different home run calls around the league. I hated it when Boomer announced it one year and EVERY. SINGLE. CALL. was, "BACK BACK BACK BACK... GONE"

    • @scottNNJ
      @scottNNJ День назад

      I remember that. That tagline got really old, really fast.

  • @imrahil_327
    @imrahil_327 День назад +1

    Enjoy the video! Hope you discontinue the use of AI art, though.

  • @maxpowr90
    @maxpowr90 День назад

    I'm a Bruins fan and I miss Jack Edwards. I wish he could still call games. Yes, he was a massive homer, but he was very eloquent and a wordsmith until his speech issue caused a severe decline in his ability. I know NHL ESPN has a few Bruins homers like Buccigross, AJ Mleczko, and Sean McDonough was before he was canned.

  • @Not_a_smart_man
    @Not_a_smart_man День назад

    Joe Buck is the prime example of this. People hated him for decades saying how he “hated” every team because he wouldn’t shower bug plays and players with praise, so it meant he hated their teams. I agree he did have an enthusiasm issue, but I think he wanted to keep it more professional than to be the guy shrieking over big plays like Gus Johnson.
    He’s gotten better in the past 5 years but any time I think of homer announcers, I think of Joe

  • @theprismaticbee
    @theprismaticbee День назад

    I think folks need to be able to determine between an announcer who is a homer, and one who is just a hack. Those two terms do not mean the same thing.

  • @valeriekeefe8898
    @valeriekeefe8898 День назад +1

    I like my homers blatant, or like Mets homers, so in our own psychodrama that we rag on our own guys.

  • @BoyNamedSue4
    @BoyNamedSue4 День назад +1

    If I’m watching a local broadcast or RUclips channel I want it to be focused on the home team. It’s only national broadcast where I feel that the play by play and color need to be more neutral.

  • @thewannaberunner
    @thewannaberunner День назад

    I was a local radio broadcaster/producer for 18+ years, mostly high school sports in Northeast Indiana. It is rough if you cover a hand full of area schools and have to remain "Neutral" in your broadcast, but in the #88 media market, there are allot of High schools you can cover. Good thing is you can do "Game of The Week and usually that is going to be an exciting game and even if you have a favorite, you play it cool and give love to both sides.
    The great thing is when you venture out to do playoff games against teams from outside your broadcast area, you get to let loose and go all homer for the team from your area and maybe criticize the refs a little more here and there to show the love for your team. But when you area the neutral station for the area, yes it is very hard to keep neutrality cause from time you let a little bias out here and there and it maybe the AD has been a dick to you in the past or its covering a game between two catholic schools and the one school has student athletes that list as being from a parish in the area and the other catholic school is basically a public school with a crucifix in the lobby and its only about them and their athletic dominance not so much the doctrine of the school so you see they are only about winning and it rubs you a bit raw. Those are the games you don't put out a bias, but listeners will blow up the PD's inbox the next day if you say something.

  • @johnu1100
    @johnu1100 День назад

    It's worse to hear an announcer constantly beaching about a player or team that is consistently inept. But there are not very many screaming homers now. The advertisers don't want that because they are selling products, not history.

  • @tobybartlett8449
    @tobybartlett8449 День назад

    Good video, how much pressure (if any) comes from the producers to be a Homer?

  • @patmanbnl
    @patmanbnl День назад

    I'm a Washington Capitals fan. Was watching the Caps play the Rangers last Saturday on ABC and it felt like the broadcasters and broadcast in general were more interested in the Rangers. I often wonder if the fact that Baseball/Hockey/Basketball broadcasts are usually regional that viewers see a neutral national broadcast as being biased against their team.

  • @mitchelmodine9197
    @mitchelmodine9197 День назад

    Homerism is 99% listeneer perspective imo. I am a Royals fan and was convinced in 2014 that Joe guy wanted to marry Madison Bumgarner, but then I saw Giants fans on the socials claiming Joe loved him some KC barbecue so 🤷‍♂️

  • @TuxedoEarth
    @TuxedoEarth День назад

    Surprised no one brought up that announcer who calls the Minnesota Vikings.
    He's the first one I think of when it comes to being a homer.

  • @Vern01
    @Vern01 День назад +1

    disappointed in the AI thumbnail :/

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 День назад

    I’ve always divided it into bad homerism and good homerism. The bad Homer sees the game through biased glasses. Every penalty should have been called on the other team. Every player on our team is great, etc. But then there are good Homers. They call the game reasonably straight, but are openly and passionately rooting for their team. I grew up listening to one of the all time greats - Larry Munson for Georgia football. He would beg, plead and even pray for good things to happen on the field. Some of his best calls are on RUclips, people should check them out.

  • @edtruxal4693
    @edtruxal4693 19 часов назад

    We get the sense of times that sometimes “Homer ism“ is a condition of employment with some teams. I’ll speak for one National league team that really gives you that flavor… To the point where a lead play-by-play guy will say, “player X (rival team)you know, has been saying really bad thing about your ”
    That’s where professionalism erodes, but it’s a minority. I love broadcasters rooting for their team, but have the confidence to be objective… Some are very, very good at that. Statesmanship. Professionalism. They go a long way. “Homer” it’s not a bad word at all… It all comes down to objectivity and professionalism. Some guys are great… Others either try too hard or seem to be under the thumb of the policies of their employer/team!

  • @NickG6489
    @NickG6489 23 часа назад

    This is one man's opinion, and a New Yorker to boot. as a fan, i *do not* want an optimistic broadcaster covering my team. Because if things are really good, their praise means more. I want a broadcaster - and journalists - quick to criticize, and criticize hard. Gary Cohen wants called Roberto Alomar, who was playing for the Mets at the time, a disgrace when he started working hard because he wanted to be traded, versus his lackadaisical play before. He's absolutely blasted management of teams, his included, on air. He isn't perfect, I feel like he failed to read the room when Javier Baez instigated an anti-fan campaign and then scored a winning run ("TURN THOSE THUMBS AROUND!") but I can forgive him this, he did what he legitimately felt. But he earns that with me because he is such a Gold Standard for integrity - praise when good, eviscerate when bad.

  • @ReikazeRambles
    @ReikazeRambles День назад

    I want a team broadcast to lean twords the home team for sure but when it's to the point where they cannot see their team do anything wrong and miss things obvious to any neutral person because of their homerism, then it's a problem. Both NorCal NBA broadcasts have this problem.

  • @stevewicker3304
    @stevewicker3304 День назад

    I thought there would be a little more emphasis on "Rights Holders." I am a St. Louis Cardinals fan, and the Cardinals did, and likely still do, own a significant percentage of what is now FanDuel Midwest. That puts pressure on the announcers whether or not it is ever spoken to them

  • @danieljackett4193
    @danieljackett4193 22 часа назад

    Not naming names, but the worst selection in the history of the Baseball HOF was the 2019 Ford Frick Award winner, who was a very off putting homer for the team he broadcast for

  • @jimlittle5769
    @jimlittle5769 День назад +1

    Ken 'Hawk' Harrelson, when he was a White Sox announcer, was the worst 'homer' ever. John Maddon, when talking about Favre, was just unbearable.

  • @728huey
    @728huey День назад

    I think the golden age of "homer" broadcasters were from the early days of broadcast sports till around the mid-1990's which were pre-ESPN, Fox Sports, and Turner Sports national telecasts. Red Barber, Vin Scully, Ernie Harwell, Jack Brickhouse, Jack Buck, and Harry Caray were legendary "homer" announcers who spent years or decades with one franchise. While there is still some homerism with the regional telecasts, it's a bit more nuanced as some of the franchise announcers also do some national telecasts on ESPN, Fox Sports, and Turner Sports. I can think of a few announcers who do this (Joe Davis, Michael Kay, Brian Anderson, Jon Schiambi, Jason Bennetti),and their telecasts aren't too much different regionally than their national telecasts. I know this usually focuses on baseball, but it applies to the NBA and. NHL as well.

  • @KenGuy517
    @KenGuy517 День назад

    Aren’t local broadcasts supposed to be “homer”

  • @billlong8385
    @billlong8385 День назад

    "Homers" are OK on teams local broadcasts. They should support and root for the home team but be fair in their assessment of the play by both teams. It's OK to get excited or disappointed but give credit or criticism of a play by players of either team when warranted.

  • @gordongross6311
    @gordongross6311 2 часа назад

    Lol the ai is hilarious I’m glad you called it out

  • @christophercraig9611
    @christophercraig9611 День назад

    All I can think of is when Bill Walton would do a national broadcast where the Lakers were playing. They could be down by 30 points and Walton would espouse how amazing the team was, or a Lakers player could do something clearly terrible to the other team without provocation and he'd call it like the Lakers player was the victim. He was great if it was a game without the Lakers, but when he announced their games it was so bad I turned it off.

  • @okami1101
    @okami1101 День назад +1

    Can someone explain to me what is a homer

    • @zttz
      @zttz День назад

      Monte Moore

    • @JefferyBarnes
      @JefferyBarnes День назад +1

      In general, I think it means people who root for the home team. For broadcasters, it refers to how broadcasters' viewpoints are slanted toward the team that employs them, whether the game is being played at home or the opponents' location.

    • @robertewalt7789
      @robertewalt7789 День назад +1

      In this usage, a “homer” is a sports commentator who uses his broadcast to root for his team, maybe excessively.

  • @irvinecattleranch
    @irvinecattleranch 5 дней назад +6

    Be a homer! Embrace it!

  • @Bc232klm
    @Bc232klm День назад +3

    Really hope you're not using AI thumbails. Love homers that respect the opponent, but don't like AI thumbnails.
    /end rant

    • @brodiebrazil
      @brodiebrazil  День назад +6

      the reason why: didn't want to use an actual photo of any identifiable human. would seem too suggestive.

    • @Dratchev241
      @Dratchev241 День назад

      @@brodiebrazil dude how else we going to get made up drama?

    • @d.b.4671
      @d.b.4671 День назад

      @@brodiebrazil - Understandable, but we have good reasons for disliking AI art-likes as well. In a nutshell, these programs learn to "draw" by trawling the Internet for artwork made by human artists, often without the permission of said artists, and mimicking the forms and styles of their art. There isn't much legal precedent to address this situation at the moment, but many artists consider it tantamount to theft, not least because it can be used to make an image in the style of a particular artist without actually paying that artist to make it.
      What we are asking you to consider is, if you want to use original artwork in your channel media, that you commission a human artist to create it for you. We don't expect that you have money to burn for such commissions, but when your channel needs it, you would be providing much-needed work to professional artists during a period of heightened uncertainty that AI art-likes have created. The right artist, if you find them, can even create an original style specific to your channel that is unique and readily identifiable as yours, something that generative AI by its very nature cannot do. Please at least think about it when the occasion next arises.

    • @Bc232klm
      @Bc232klm 8 часов назад +1

      Totally get it, and this is definitely a channel that's getting my support no matter the thumbnails, since I've seen so much and love what I've seen. Didn't really know how else to share that thought and initial reaction. If you just keep doing what you're doing, I'll still be watching as many vids as I have time for 😎

  • @PedersonPantry
    @PedersonPantry День назад +1

    Paul Allen entered the chat

    • @darrinthurston3308
      @darrinthurston3308 День назад +1

      Oh my the Homer of Homers and I'm a Vikings fan....😂

  • @rickmoreno7166
    @rickmoreno7166 День назад

    It's also fair to point out that the broadcasters for some teams, especially in baseball, are paid BY THE TEAM, not the broadcasting network, so of course they're going to be homers. I don't mind a bit of homerism, but sometimes the spin around a terrible team can be too much.

  • @jerryharris6342
    @jerryharris6342 23 часа назад

    Hawk Harrelson and Vin Sculley are the opposite ends of the spectrum for homer announcers, but both were entertaining to listen to. The question is whether someone is a good announcer or a bad one. And the name that just snapped into your head was Joe Buck as one of the worst (certainly for baseball). Compare your broadcasters to him and see where you're at.
    Other issues are that the home announcers aren't allowed to talk about certain things about the team for possible legal reasons. Home announcers might also play up blow out games to keep fans viewing and listening.

  • @mstoops64
    @mstoops64 День назад

    I don’t like homers. I want the guy who does the national call to do the local call the same way. Do you think they have to treat local telecasts differently for ratings? Fans would get turned off by someone who isn’t “rooting” for their team?

  • @edalder2000
    @edalder2000 День назад

    Harry Caray was the most "homer" that I ever saw and he was beloved.
    I grew up listening to Jon Miller doing radio for The Orioles. Very even. If you did well, you were praised. Miller would criticize as well. I learned a lot from him.
    Miller is my template for an announcer, so I have never cared for homers of any sort.

  • @thomasjoseph3488
    @thomasjoseph3488 День назад

    As far as homer announcers, it's fine with me. These folks might be irritating to other teams' fans, but the passion must be viewed within the environment. I grew up listening to Marty Brennaman, who was a huge Reds fan, of course, but never shied away from criticism if it was necessary. Other announcers are comically homers and much less credible.

  • @archstanton6102
    @archstanton6102 День назад +2

    Can you do a video on your predictions for the NFL play-offs?

  • @GeraldBacon-si5mx
    @GeraldBacon-si5mx 4 часа назад

    it's too bad we couldn't get a small percentage of the videos monetary gain if we give you a good suggestion :)

  • @ericwiederhold9141
    @ericwiederhold9141 День назад

    I miss the late great Larry Munson.

  • @davidthomas8766
    @davidthomas8766 День назад

    I prefer the home broadcast team. Im a Twin's fan and them being a small market team you find ESPN and Fox's broadcast teams know much if anything about the smaller market teams. I will admit as much as I have a sour taste in my mouth from Apple they actually have a really damn good broadcast team for their baseball games. You can tell that they send out journalists to get the scoop on the teams and hands off that info to the broadcast team. Once again going to the Twins I miss Dick Bremer, he was a Twins fan through and through but he wouldn't sugar coat everything where as the Twins new play-by-play guy Cory Provus is actually just a really damn good broadcaster. He actually called a Sunday night game for Fox that wasn't the Twins (which was weird) but he's pretty good at being a professional nationwide broadcaster but I think part of that makes him a slightly less entertaining home team guy. Another kind of neat thing we saw this year from a broadcast perspective which I was flabergasted by was the few games Roku did. I turned on the first Twins game on Roku against the Astros in like the 2nd innings and heard Todd Kalas and Cory Provus in the booth. They literally just grab one homer from each booth and have them call the game. It was cool to see both callers be excited about their teams but be respectful of the audience.

  • @Surl9596
    @Surl9596 День назад

    To me a Homer is fanboyism. Has rose colored glasses for their own team that no other team does and has trouble seeing fault in anything they do. In my opinion, that doesn’t enhance viewership especially to those who are into the intricacies of the game

  • @pandaotu
    @pandaotu День назад +6

    Don't use ai plz

  • @heathrunyon4036
    @heathrunyon4036 День назад

    Jack Buck was awesome.

  • @PauMaz
    @PauMaz День назад

    Brodie, unless I missed hearing it, you overlooked the single biggest factor in contributing to awful Homer announcers, and perhaps it was intentional. Who pays you? Always, always follow the money to get at the truth. Homer announcers are homers because they get paid directly or indirectly by the home team. The absolute worst Homer announcer ever was Boston Bruins NESN announcer Jack Edwards. Jack Edwards generated more hate of the Boston Bruins than Brad Marchand’s dirty plays ever could. The absolute best home team announcer, and never a homer, is New York Yankee Yes Network announcer Michael Kay, a complete professional. Kay is never afraid to criticize the Yankees when warranted. As you mentioned the worst situation for a fan is when the home team is playing poorly and the Home Team Homer, who is on the payroll, keeps telling me how great things are and is afraid to call out poor play by the Home team because in their mind, keeping those paychecks coming is sacrosanct. I also thought it was more than a little arrogant for you to say “I know things that fans don’t know.”

  • @JD200_
    @JD200_ День назад

    Jack Edwards

  • @truckermikemct1
    @truckermikemct1 17 часов назад

    Tom Hamilton, play by play man of the Cleveland INDIANS gives me a headache at times.
    But no one can accuse him of being a homer.
    Listen to his play by play of exciting moments of an opposing team.

  • @iljackb
    @iljackb День назад

    I hate homers, even for my teams, a classic example of which is Fitz (Warriors TV broadcaster). I also can't stand when they say "we", e.g. Hawk Harrelson

  • @GeraldBacon-si5mx
    @GeraldBacon-si5mx 4 часа назад

    Homers don't bother me it's announcers personality and voice are what i care about.My Tigers hired a stand up comedian for their lead guy i can't stand him.

  • @janeblackbird6160
    @janeblackbird6160 День назад

    I’m old; a definition of a “homer” might’ve helped. Sorry, couldn’t finish this video. 🤷‍♀️

  • @msn64man1
    @msn64man1 День назад

    It’s going it’s going it’s out of here

  • @GeraldBacon-si5mx
    @GeraldBacon-si5mx 4 часа назад

    I wish you'd do a video about bandwagon fans i can't stand them.

  • @sunnysimmons
    @sunnysimmons День назад

    cool