How to repair a WDI Novelli toilet Inlet valve without removing it
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The WDI inlet valve is sometimes fixed in a way which makes it almost impossible to remove. We show you how to repair it without removing it. Valves can be ordered here for Australia and NZ
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PLEASE NOTE I HAVE FOUND A MUCH BETTER WAY TO DO THIS. CHECK THE OTHER VIDEO IN THE DESCRIPTION
Awesome. This solution fixed my toilet. I don't need to call out a plumber(which I can't afford after this covid scenario). Thanks heaps for the knowledge
Thanks for this video. It helped my fix our toilet.
Found that by popping black rubber valve seal out of the white plastic moulding and then inserting a very thin piece of plastic film into the bottom of the black rubber valve holder( to act as spacer) prior to the re-insertion of black rubber valve seal , I was able to get an effective way of stopping water flow when level was reached . In effect I had compensated for 5 years of wear on the rubber surface and hopefully this fix will work for a reasonable period of time .
Thanks Richard - this was a very handy video to find to help me fix our toilet. Cheers
Great work, mate. Very helpful.
Glad we could help :)
You can also hold the neck of the valve and rotate the whole float assembly (you can rotate the whole big bit off the neck). I re-seated some washers and that temporarily fixed my overflowing issues, but it started leaking again after 2-3 weeks. Going to need a new assembly as i broke the clip on the neck.
Both my toilets had these fill valves, and both failed after only 5 years you cannot buy replacement parts unless you but a new valve and take the parts off of it. They are crap and I replaced both of mine with different fill valves
Thanks. Very helpful.
Hi Richard, I'd like to increase the water level in my cistern. I have the WDI infill valve like yours in the video but it seems the black clip was missing. I still can move the valve clockwise and back but can't pull the valve up or down to increase or decrease the water level. What can I do? Thanks.
I have the same issue as I can't pull the valve up or down at all. Hopefully we can get some advice from Richard.
It looks like we have to remove the WDI Novelli toilet inlet valve but the whole to access the plastic bolt is not much bigger than the bolt. Is there a tool to access the plastic bolt?
My Novelli constantly running water too (trickling once the float rises), unclipped the float and sealing up the hole with finger was still not enough to stop the valve, as the other post suggested maybe there is an inner seal that does the hard work, this little top seal seams to be used to put pressure on inner one (i.e most water flow is not through that top tiny hole).
Just wondering how the inlet attaches in the bottom of cistern with no rear/ under access on the pan there is no way to access without taking cistern tank from pan (hoping that gives level of access necessary and pan doesn't have to also be moved! ) Will try that part from toiletspares firstly without removing cistern tank if I can get into the assembly of the valve, but maybe a better generic valve would be better that allows maintenance from above. Can't believe it is gone after only 3 years!
Our Geberit inlet valve is a Swiss valve which can be overhauled from the top and can be found here toiletspares.com.au/inlet-valves/geberit/geberit-360-bottom-entry-inlet-valve hope that helps.
@@richardharrison6439 Thanks Richard. We have the Novelli Varese (unfort), the cistern inlet valve looks the same as in this vid and has WDI B3300-U on top, and ATS5200.016 WMKA00626 on the lower part of that grey hood, the number doesn't quite match the replacement on toiletspares which is ATS5028, is there any difference before I order one? (I will attempt to transfer parts to top without removing cistern tank if at all possible, before resorting to the full cistern tank removal to replace whole assembly). Hard to find any info on the net about this, your video and toiletspares (which also references this vid) seems to be the top of all the search lists ;)
Edit: I hardly need bottom entry anyway apart from not being able to mount the thing because this is the setup with rear/top entry, then the stainless flexihose running down the back to the bottom-
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Presumably the flexihose and bottom of the valve will be quite accessible once I separate the cistern and pan and don't have to pull the whole pan away from the wall...
The people who reno'd my bathroom and foistered this Novelli rubbish onto me put the inlet valve assembly hard against the cistern side, I couldn't rotate it counter-clockwise to allow the height adjustment, luckily there was a tiny bit of looseness on the thread to allow me to rotate to where you see in the photo which can allow the height to be changed (not that it helped with the valve allowing water through). Can't get my hands in there to put the clip back in though... The valve behavior is a bit odd. If I turn the water supply off and back on again, the valve will be sealed properly, but if I flush and the cistern fills, it never stops filling (trickles through when the float raises).
@@TonyHamlyn Valve will be the same. If there is a problem, i will refund no problem. I can't give too much advice on the setup without being there but trying this fix should be the go.
@@richardharrison6439 very quick shipping, thanks. Was able to rotate the float/valve assembly relative to its shaft and remove and replace with the new one all from the top(once I worked out how with the new one, not a lot of room in the tank to see how it all went together) , so the Gerberit assembly will be for next time this happens and can't get WDI bits any more.
I guess the part# difference for ATS5028 vs ATS5200 is that the 5028 pumps water out that small top hose section, (along with the bottom of the assembly below the waterline for silent filling), so I put some narrow rubber hose onto it into the cistern overflow hole (has a small piece to hold this size hose too) which effectively pumps water through into the toilet pan while the cistern is filling. Uses more water, but found it helps clean any remaining "stuff" from the back of the pan better this way anyway (rather than blocking it off like my original WDI valve had).
This video isn't telling the whole picture about the failure mode btw. That little hole and the float+rubber section is only for applying small pressure to push on the bigger seals below the assembly, they really need to be swapped out also, not just the float part shown in the video. It requires an anticlockwise turn of the upper part of the valve relative to the lower part on the main shaft (there is a clip on the float reservoir piece holding into the shaft). This gets access to the main washers in the assembly which can be swapped over for the new unit (effectively you can swap the majority over except the part that screws into the cistern, and the up/down shaft that holds the float assembly).
Be careful, there are small detents in one of the washers to align it both above and below the washer.
How to I increase water level while it's all attached in the cistern as I can't get it to turn
The worst thing is you must buy the whole set just to replace the tiny rubber grommet! Not good enough.
Richard are you able to tell me, how long should it roughly take to fill the cistern to its proper level. I find my cistern takes just over 4 mins. Is that to long and why please.
It depends on the size of the cistern and water pressure but I would have thought around 1 minute would be plenty of time. More than that sounds like the inlet valve may need replacement.
to remove the float it is better to use a pair of long nose pliers and squeeze in the two connector arms, the float easily pops out no risk of damage to the fingers or the valve assembly. your video does not show how to access the main rubber washer so if you can update to include further disassembly that would be useful.
Thanks David, i'll look into that.
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