What RUINED Butch Hartman? (A Legacy DESTROYED by Pride)
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Butch Hartman: a man who was once one of the most beloved creators in the world of animation. He was behind the creation of The Fairly OddParents, Danny Phantom and a few other less popular shows. However, the charming Butch we all thought we knew would eventually reveal his true colors and torpedo his own career and legacy. How did this happen? Well, let's find out!
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00:00 - 1:34 Intro
1:35 - 5:43 Sponsor
5:44 - 11:32 Butch's Beginnings
11:33 - 25:44 The Rise of Butch Hartman
25:45 - 1:00:33 The Fall of Butch Hartman
1:00:33 - 1:22:35 What Went Wrong Exactly?
1:22:36 - 1:31:23 Constructive Criticism for Mr. Hartman
1:31:23 - 1:33:54 Conclusion
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Hey folks! Sorry for being out of action these past few weeks. I'm trying to take more time to create longer form videos and to pursue projects that I feel more passionate about. This is one of them. I hope you enjoy!
Nice, New video after Smg4 Movie: PUZZLEVISION!
Also can you review and let's watch Eleanor's Secret (2009) that Italian-French animated feature film.
Yesss
Could you do another MLP G5 review, because the series has gotten better
@@riffraff7942It has
Fun fact: Trixie and Sparky were voiced by a blind actricess and a trans actricess respecteply, i can imagined how many jokes Butch made at their expence
Calling introverts selfish is rich coming from an extrovert whose entire personality revolves around himself being "the creator of your childhood"
classic extrovert projection
1:05:10
“If you don’t want to talk to me, it means you don’t like me.”
You’re right. ;)
The amount of introverts who will go out of their way to help people and not talk about doing so out ways the amount of extroverts who will do kind things just to be kind (clearly this is in my experience)
“Nobody ever knows what you’re thinking”
Okay??? You don’t need to broadcast every single thought that pops into your head Butch
Hartman is crazy for saying he "paved the way for serialized cartoons" while showing AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER💀💀💀
right avatar premiered only a year after danny but was in production way before danny
Teen Titans also started before DP and as much as some of the episodes can be rearranged there were arcs in that series and character development as well. Code Lyoko (also from '04) had some arcs and development. And of course there was already plenty of serialized anime.
You can go back further with X-Men, Spider-Man, and Gargoyles shows...
Astro Boy.
Yeah it's not like 90s x-men & spider-man existed or anything.
"This isn't me asking for your money, this is me asking for your prayers"
Damn, I didn't know prayers came in green
Legit! Funny how he felt the need to bring up funding THREE TIMES before saying that.
"I didn't know prayers came in green" is a bar ngl 👀
9 times out of 10 anybody asking for your prayers really means your money regardless of the religion involved
Maybe Peter Popoff was more successful than we all thought?
Damn! That phrase sounds like a tipical cult leader would say.
The whole “the ghosts were never deceased people” baffles me. Wasn’t there word from the show’s crew members that Ember’s backstory was; she died in a house fire cause she was exhausted after waiting all night for a date that stood her up. Not to mention Desiree’s living backstory is literally stated in the show. 😂
Word from writer, like six or seven explicitly dead people, cujo whom literally breaks into the now empty kennels to retreive his chew toy
He’s basically lying his pants off both to the Christian and to the secular world. Because the Ghost were dead people back then… Ember literally died and had a backstory and everything. And now he says they weren’t to avoid being cancelled by Christians (as a Christian, I don’t even care about that since the show was fictional anyway… and it had nothing to do with Bible stories, so the ghost thing never bothered me) but then he also lies to the secular world with the whole Oaxis thing… can this man be truthful at all?
The original idea was it suppose to be about demons not ghost after the concepts change it was about dead people
And the Dairy King haunting the castle he owned before he died and Vlad bought it!
Edit: AND THE DOG!!!
The entire ghost zone school that's trapped in the 50's is another potential contradiction to Hartman's statement.
Kuro here. I appreciate you covering my side of the story in this video. The conflict between Butch and myself happened years before I went public with the information. Originally I had no intention of making a big fuss about it, but I eventually decided to speak up against his mishandling of our contract to officially distance myself from him once I caught wind of the harmful and offensive statements he made about mental illness. I opened the court case as a testament that his "unstoppable force" is penetrable, in hopes to inspire others to take appropriate actions as well. It was also to clarify that despite previously working for him, I do not hold the same views and opinions, which many unfortunately assumed at the time.
However, I do want to clarify that some of the statements in this video are incorrect. I was not replaced for ImagiNathan, but in fact was the replacement for the original animator, Jeremy Chinshue, whose work you are showcasing in the video. That version was completed and scrapped before he brought me on. The version of ImagiNathan I worked on was a more action-focused reboot featuring an older version of Nathan. Aside from showcasing a few frames of an animatic I put together featuring boards from an unknown artist, all of my work on my version of ImagiNathan never saw the light of day. This also includes the work I did for Elf Detective, which I also largely went underpaid for and was scrapped as well.
Kuro you're an amazing artist and you seem like good guy, I'm sorry you got screwed over by this man you called your hero. I hope you're doing better now and I love your Ben 10 videos keep up the good work my man.
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Respect that you chose to speak up when you did. Respect that you didn't want to make it public and personal at first, until the patterns of Butch being a gaslighting cultish manipulator started becoming too obvious for him to keep hidden away any further. And respect for your talents and where they'll take you next!
I'm really happy you added some clarifications. I'm sad thus comment wasn't at the top when I first found it
holy shit lois its the creator of peak fiction
Butch Hartman is a good case study on what happens when you let popularity get to your head. First, his writing started to suffer. Then, he basically became a poorly written cartoon character himself.
Greek tragedy, every time.
If anyone from UTTP comments below, please report them. First option - only takes a second.
basically a greek tragedy, except that butch hartman probably couldn't fight a chimera
@@DangericeDreams You can say that: Butch Hartman went from a fairy to an anti-fairy
so you're saying he became what became of his characters?
It’s wild to me that he is so insensitive about depression especially because there’s literally a danny phantom episode about the kids getting depressed because of a villain and Danny has to process it and overcome it, which was always really cathartic for me as I have depression
Wish we knew which writer to thank for it instead of Butch...
@@admiralofcuteness You mean "My Brother's Keeper"? FYI, it's written by Sib Ventress from a story by Steve Marmel...
@@gavrilosinaga yup that one
@@admiralofcuteness Me and my sister have a thing with butch hartman, he may have given 'life' to these characters, but he certainly didn't raise them, he just left them in the hands of other people who gave them personality, that's why any episode that he usually had a hand in was subpar at most and terrible at 'best'...
@@michelleb4852 So what you’re saying is he may have been the cartoons’ father but he wasn’t their daddy?
As a Christian… I just feel the need to point out that the seven mountains thing isn’t even biblical. The idea that humans can facilitate the return of Christ is contradictory to what it actually says in the Bible about the return of Christ. The idea that human’s have any authority over the return of Christ is contradictory over what the Bible says. It’s false doctrine fueled by pride and hubris. Even the Bible says that Pride comes before Destruction and it also says not to lie, so the fact that Butch Hartman lied about the mission of Oaxis and used a loophole to not pay Kuro breaks my heart, since he’s not even acting the way Christian faith says we should be (a problem with lots of modern Christians, truth be told). It’s just painful to see how Butch conducted himself through everything after his Nick days.
As someone who was raised Christian... Wanting to be personally credited with someone getting into Heaven has to be one of THE most blasphemous things I've ever heard in my LIFE!
Yea. I'm not christian anymore, but I still remember so many verses like the back of my hand, and what Hartman wants does sound like blasphemy. He might be able to spread the gospel, but taking credit for directly saving people and getting them into heaven? That's God's doing according to the bible, not Hartman's nor anyone else's.
1 Corinthians 3:5-7: What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe-as the Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.
It’s the most ironic thing about people like Hartman. Speaking as a fellow Christian, I’ve seen this all too many times. Funnily enough, there is an entire commandment about false prophets, those who would pride themselves on being the ones to give you the keys to the pearly gates. And I’m pretty sure god isn’t a big fan of them.
@@gunchapred8933yeah. Because both God and Jesus were like "hey look, watch out for false prophets. Don't pray publicly."
@@angelsartandgamingAnd do your good works in private, not make documentaries about them.
Amen to that, I can't believe he said that.
Tara's uncomfortable laugh as Butch blames her for her friend's unaliving on live media is just horrifying.
My jaw hit the floor. I couldn't believe an actual human being could say something like that so nonchalantly.
If s is a sin, isn't joking about it and accusing others for causing it even worse?
Say what you want about Tara Strong, but even she didn't deserve that.
@@tylerfish2701yeah even if Tara has some racial religious issues (anti Muslim or anti Islam) she’s still a great person
@@ryanlozano9086 I'll take your word for it.
"I defy you, Heartman!" Patrick Star.
You know, with people now wondering if "Dirty Dan" was a foreshadowing of Dan Schenider, one has to wonder whether that "Heartman" joke was onto something too?
Holy shit. This goes deep.
I wouldnt be surprised
Someone in another comment had a ‘tinfoil conspiracy theory’ that when Timmy’s dad shouts “Dinkleburg!”, that Dinkeburg is secretly Hillenburg. With Hillenburg having the more popular show/Dinkleburg having the better yard, house, etc.
@@Lawnmower737damn, honestly you might be on to something
I tell this story all the time but here we go: I met Butch Hartman while I was a barista at Starbucks. I was working the register during a busy peak on a Saturday when this woman came in and ordered a decaf London fog. The hot teas come in bags and we do not and never have carried decaf Earl Grey tea, the main ingredient in a London fog. After explaining this, she rolled her eyes at me said “I’ve always ordered this! You clearly have no idea how to do your job”. She proceed to just order it regular. That’s when her partner come in, Butch Hartman. I was bamboozled but wasn’t entirely sure it was him so I stayed silent. The first thing she says to him is “She doesn’t know how to make a decaf London Fog” and he goes “is that the spiced drink or the Peach one?”. I was thrown for a loop because that confused me more. Peach. She wanted the Peach herbal tea (which was non caffeinated, not decaf) to replace the main ingredient in a London fog which is the Earl Grey. I finished their order and Butch asked for a Berry Trio parfait. After I scan his account, that’s when I realized it was in fact Butch Hartman standing before me. I quickly finished up without acknowledging him in any way because they both were kind of snide and giving off awful energy. The last thing I wanted to do was fangirl about Danny Phantom after I pissed his partner off. They get their drinks and go to sit down before Butch comes back to the counter and goes “I’m gonna need a spoon with this unless you want me to eat it with my hands”. Yeah I don’t miss working at Starbucks.
bc “excuse me, could i have a spoon please?” is so hard 😒
what a dick.
"Never meet your heroes" summed up perfectly
@@KingRandor82truly
It's so disappointing that they're like that. Sadly they are not the first or the last people who claim how wonderful they are for being Christian yet are complete snakes in the grass. If I was as well-known as him I'd be the nicest guy to everyone, and my fans. Sad how most just let it go to their head.
Isn't decaf and non caffeinated the same thing?
"People who critique are weak"
How did this man even survive art school??
There is a difference in critiquing and pointing out things to make improvements. That is considered constructive criticism. Any good Director should be able to do that. In doing that, the actor or Animator is motivated to do better and the results are mutually satisfying. A number of Animation Directors I worked under did not have this understanding. And any Director who belittles someone working for him is a hack, while the best know how to lead and inspire.
@@RayPointerChannel Critique is the word for constructive criticism. I think you mistook critique for criticise?
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 They're all the same thing. Criticize is the action of giving critique. Also to remark on what RayPointer says, critiquing is the act of pointing things out to make improvements. Not all forms of criticism are constructive and helpful, but constructive criticism is still a form of critique, and are not actually two different things
@@Lucario-Knight_Aura No. No they're not all the same thing.
To criticise is to be thoroughly negative. It is to just tear someone down with no regard for their improvement. Destructive criticism.
Critique is a detailed analysis and assessment. To have your words be considered a critique it has to describe the issue and then offer up suggestions on how to improve or make it better.
@@Lucario-Knight_Aurathe other person is right, the official definition of criticize is to indicate the faults of someone or something in a disapproving or negative way
I find it funny that almost every Butch Hartman drawing of Butch Hartman looks like the Chad meme
It’s because he wasn’t the character designer of his shows
I just see the trollface. lol
"Nice argument, however I draw myself as the Chad"
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I get the feeling in his mind he’s like “the Virgin John K and the Chad Butch”
Watching his cartoons will ruin your life with zero logic nonsense.
Christian with depression here. I've always found it so confusing when other Christians tell you that depression is some kind of personal failure on your part. We are supposed to help and soothe those who are suffering. Kindness and caring for others is supposed to be a cornerstone of our faith. (Also, we're not supposed to pass judgement on others.)
Oh they love to put their hands on their hips and judge while swaying from side to side
I hope you are having the opportunity to tackle the depression. I know words from an outsider doesn't really help much, but still.
YES, SOMEONE SAID IT.
HUMANS AREN'T THE ONES WHO CHOOSE WHO GOES TO HEAVEN OR HELL, WE CAN'T JUDGE OTHERS OURSELVES-
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THISSSS
"we're not supposed to pass judgement on others" yeah no sorry that isnt biblical at all
I mean, Matthew 7:1-2? John 8:7? Well known Luke 6:31? James 4:12? Romans 2:1?
The main thing about the "Wise like the serpent, harmless as a dove" that bugs me is that that line was to tell the disciples how to preach the gospel around people that were *active threats to their lives*. The way Butch quotes it, implies that he sees everyone that he isn't buddy-buddy with as a threat to him. And that is legitimately terrifying.
He's like a chipmunk, in the forest, whose pupils dilate at every bird chirp.
"Butch claimed God told him to make Oaxis"
Mama always said that if someone tells you God spoke to them, fucking RUN.
For a guy who boasts credit about his art, he sure as shit won't take credit for lying and stealing from people. Ridiculous.
I'm glad for all the honest creators from all faiths. ❤
Мдауж, как у нас говорится:если ты разговариваешь с богом, то это называется молитва. А если бог с тобой разговаривает, то это шизофрения
For real. You'd think that with all the warnings about liars and charlatans in scripture, Christians of all people would be more skeptical of a voice that whispers to them in moments of solitude.
@@MHurley21 I know right? Their bible is full of such warnings, such as Mathew 7, which Jesus plainly says "A lot of you might think you're 'The real Christians', but only a few are actually gonna get into heaven." But all these people in hundreds of different denominations think they're the one denomination that got it right and all the others are wrong. The lack of humility and self awareness is astounding.
Mathew 7:13-23
13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. 15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves....
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Lol trying to use God as a scapegoat.
"You are making everyone else feel uncomfortable" bro that is the worst thing to say to an introvert.
I’m not introverted but SOOOO many of my loved ones are. They never make me uncomfortable! They just don’t express their feelings exactly the same as I do! People can be different from one another. It’s okay! But telling introverts there’s something “wrong” with them is just as hurtful as telling extroverts that the fact they like to talk and go to social functions more is “too much” and makes them insufferable. I truly believe there’s supposed to be HARMONY, not DIVIDE here
That is the worst thing to Say to anyone
How would being an introvert make anyone uncomfortable. I can maybe see it a little if you were stuck in a one-on-one situation with one for a really long time, but does that ever happen? Even if it did, I assume that the non-introvert would eventually get used to the idea that that is just how the other person is.
@@mavortius8768Some people can’t handle silence or being with someone who isn’t constantly volunteering information. I’m an introvert and even though I’ve tried to be friendly and somewhat proactive in conversations, it hasn’t prevented some people from still having an issue that I don’t talk as much as they do, as if I have something to hide or am “too good” to talk to them. If anything, it just reveals who they are. I wish they’d get used to it, but sometimes what happens is that they’ll just create a negative opinion of you to fill the void rather than give the benefit of the doubt.
The hilarity being that Hartman surely makes ppl uncomfortable by the way he speaks as well
Hillenburg =Dinkleburg
Timmy's dad features, jaw line haircolor = Butch Hartman
Fruadian slip in the greatest way possible 😂
I’ve heard that Mr. Turner is actually modeled after his voice actor not butch Hartman for once, at least.
The Chad Hillenburg vs the Virgin Hartman
Butch Hartman blocked me on Tick Tock because I kept calling him out about his oaxis scam. he has no intention of ever following through with that project, and the people who donated to it got their money stolen from them. not only is he a piss poor artist, he's also a scam artist. I wish nothing but the worst for Butch Hartman
"He fights ghosts, but not the ghosts of dead people-" Well what are they then? The ghosts of christmas past, present and future?
They're Cybernetic Ghosts of Christmas Past from the Future.
I would’ve absolutely stood up and asked him “then what about Sidney Pointdexter?”
Wait, Desire, the Lunch Lady, and Sidney Poindexter *were* ghosts of dead people! The Lunch Lady was literally Casper High's former lunch lady, and Desire was a woman who never found love, and Sydney...I think he was actually bullied to death. Pretty screwed up when you think about it.
That was actually something that annoyed me about Danny Phantom when I looked back at it. I liked the show, but they actually started with an interesting premise about talking to the actual dead...then you got tech-obsessed Gilbert Godfrey and the cyborg hunter. I liked some of that stuff, but it kind of took away the whole "ghost" part.
@@tiraXpyrrhabased aqua teen enjoyer.
Can... Hmm. Can emotions have ghosts? Is that what they are?
He gave Butch the “what happened” video essay with the thumbnail of the person with their eyes crossed out by their actions, it’s so over.
Very over
It's joever
Liar isn’t the best word for him either. Arrogant is the best description of him
At least he's not as bad as John Kricfalusi.
@@stoopidpursun8140 Yeah at least he's not a pedophile. YET.
Hearing his wife say that they want people to approach them in Heaven and tell them that they're the reason they're there makes me question their faith in general. Who's the Savior here, Butch?
I'm shivering just thinking about it.
False prophet behavior at its finest.
The "I did it, why can't you?" Idea is called survivorship bias.
when fairly odd parents was cancelled, i can only imagine he shook his fist, "Hillenburg!"
Tin-Foil hat conspiracy: Dinkleburg is Hillenburg
It explains why Timmy's Dad is always jealous of him for having it better
never thought about that until now. Wow@@thecaptain6520
That was the clearest image I've ever seen in my brain.
"Curse you, Hillenburg!"
Hillenburg just chilling behind the pearly gates: "Ya'll hear sumthin'?"
Hearing his wife say "Could you imagine someone committing suicide because of your show?" just immediately made me think of the guy who was a huge fan of Ember and went on a murder spree before ending his own life. Since Butch wants to take full credit for the cartoons he worked on, I wonder what he thinks about that.
EDIT: I am not blaming the Hartmans for Randy Stair. My point is that since Butch wants to take full credit for the shows he worked on, then someone committed a crime and offed themselves because of his cartoon. A cartoon he tried to sneak Christian values in. He wants to tout his ego and how his stuff is better and more Christian, so it's ironic that his work indirectly caused what happened.
I read about Randy Stair years before he started getting noticed more often on the internet. It's definitely because of how the world is nowadays and everyone being chronically online, but I couldn't help thinking about Randy Stair whenever Butch talked about introverts, mental illness and all that. People have killed and committed suicide because of his shows, even if it's just Randy Stair. The world's biggest problems are cause by people who pretend they don't exist, which is exactly what Hartman is as well as most people over 40 years old nowadays.
I mean you can't really blame that on Butch or his wife.
@@aleksakuljanin2442 It says here that Mary Bergman suffered from bipolar and generalized anxiety disorders, which she hid from her family, friends, and co-stars. So no it's not Tara's fault.
i remember actually reading his fanfiction
He can't control want other people choose to do under the influence of his shows. It's like blaming Christopher Nolan for the movie massacre because of that nut James Holmes liking Heath Ledger's Joker. It's absurd. We're responsible strictly for our own thoughts, actions, feelings and behaviors, and perhaps the behavior of our offspring until a certain age and no one else.
Ironic, considering Pride is considered the deadliest of the deadly sins.
The deadly sins aren't actual Christian doctrine just so you know
@@vorbo01not Rage ?
@@Columbina3rdHarbringer wot
The whole idea of the seven-mountain mandate is so very cultic, it's disturbing.
It's frankly disgusting. To go out and claim all the "corrupt media" is making kids kill themselves, while literally perpetuating the extremist belief system that is itself factually responsible for the suffering of countless people, with a mission statement that boils down to "infiltrate and brainwash".
It's just run-of-the-mill world domination. I could have told the idea came from an episode of Pinky and the Brain and I could totally believe it.
@@OctyabrAprelyaexcept pinky and the brain is fictional and these people think the Christian apocalypse is real…
Ego. Its all ego. As a christian man, doesn't he know one of the deadliest sins is Pride?
even for all the supposed good things they did with their charity, is it really coming from the goodness of their heart? or is it self-righteousness coming from pride
and from the words of arlecchino from genshin impact
those who boast about their virtues, are the most evil
@@icetweizBro you didn't just unironically quote Genshin Impact💀
@@Oppen1945 the new generation is so fucked lmao
The 7 deadly sins isn’t a biblical reference. Every sin is deadly.
Yea, you can tell just by the way he talks. So much arrogance almost patronizing.
My jaw DROPPED when I heard him say "It was probably your fault" about Mary Kay's death and Tara. I don't know how anybody could possibly think that was even remotely OK to say, let alone laugh about.
I know, right? I love MKB so much and her work was phenomenal, especially shows like South Park! She was such an important part of the show's success in its early seasons and stuff, and I truly can't thank her enough for it! Without her, in my opinion, the show wouldn't be where it is today, where it stands amongst a pillar with the animation greats! It truly is a masterpiece of a series, and I think that that can be said that she was probably one of the people that it's most to thank for that right there, guys! And Mary helped contribute so much to the show, it's awesome what she did! She should be thanked for what she did, and she truly will be missed forever! RIP! Tara shouldn't be blamed for her friend and longtime voice coach's at all! She had nothing to do with it! Stop it, Butch!
@@taejasper1343 that's BS as well tho. you sugarcoat her. you should always treat deceased with respect. respect means not sugarcoat them and put them into a pink bubble without critique but also not making jokes about them. I agree tho that to funnily blame someone for a death can have legal consequences even.
@@glasperle77 I'm not doing that at all! What are you talking about? That's stupid! I'm not sugarcoating anything, bro!
@@glasperle77kid, you need to read stuff more carefully because you have clearly misunderstood what has been said here. No one sugarcoated anything🤦♀️
Yeah that’s a gross joke. Like who was actually laughing at that???
1:10:55 "Obviously not actual dead ppl because im a christian i wouldnt do that"
Scott Cawthon (a christian): here's a game about animatronics being haunted by ghost kids
this is the exact thought i had when Butch said that lmao
The animation change at 35:37 is a jump scare. The production value went down soooo much in the later seasons
you trying to get freaky?? 🥵
Kuro: "Hey Butch, can you pay me?"
Butch: "I'M GOING GHOST!"
Kuro: Well...I'm going hero! *transforms into Rath*
Literally one of our cut jokes lol.
Kuro: Well, that means... Its lawsuit time! *Slames the call button on his phone and calls his lawyer*
@@pkmntrainerred4247 Hi, I'm Saul Goodman. Did you know that you have rights?
Holy crap. I'd have walked out if someone joked that I caused someone's suicide, I wouldn't care about whatever contracts I was under. What the heck.
If I hadn't just been struck speechless in that situation, I would've been tempted to lob a volley back or at least say, "Pardon, WTF?"
These are celebrities, I’m not surprised that they’d just act like he didn’t say what he said so they can just keep up the optics. I wouldn’t blame her for calling him out right there in a professional manner, not just going ape mode. But integrity is lost on most celebrities.
Welcome to Butch Hartman's mind. Take a number
@@2oshow They might be notable in their field but they are by no means "celebrities" in terms of earning value. People like Tara are freelance mercenary actors - Tara is fortunately in that 5% that regularly book work since she's good at what she does. Give Hartman's significant influence at Nickelodeon, Tara was obviously tempering her reaction - because pissing off Butch means pissing off Nick because for a long stretch he was the "golden goose"... and if you're mostly working in animation, you do DO not want to piss off Nick and risk being blacklisted. There are so many professional implications for speaking out against a creator like Butch who had Nick by the balls for the better part of a decade.
Ok, it didn't knew there were actually 10 Fairly OddParents movies, that is kind of surprising....but 3 live action movies !? that is just unbelievable.
I only know the ones with the terminators, and the crossovers
I love that John F Fountain (director behind many of the FOP memorable episodes) has been very vocal on Twitter on Butch’s BS.
Like how John would solo direct a whole episode by himself, then Butch would change a single frame- then slap his “co-director” name on the credits
I’m very glad that stephen hillenburg wasn’t those type of creators.
may he rest in peace.
He died a hero. Although Spongebob still continues.
I know it seems disconnected, but losing Hillenburg reminded me of losing Steve Irwin back in the day. A good man and a passionate man sharing his work with the world taken from us too soon. I never knew either of them but damn if they weren't parts of my life
The man just liked fish a lot and wanted to show everyone. And I respect that.
@@jaceybella1267it’s a similar in the sense that both were good men, I can see where you’re going with that.
@@RetRequiemYeah, and it's continuing his legacy, too! They're doing it to honor him and what he created for the world! Godspeed to him! And Steve is a hero, too! May he rest in peace!
“Backstory for Ember released by Butch reveals that she was unpopular in high school when she was alive and dreamed of becoming a rock star. When a boy asked her out to the movies, she accepted, but the boy stood her up as she waited for him all night. Once morning came, she returned home and fell asleep from exhaustion. However, her house mysteriously caught on fire, and despite efforts by firefighters to put the blaze out, Ember burned to death or died from smoke inhalation as her home burned to the ground. Upon becoming a ghost, she gained both her rock star dream she had when she was still mortal, and pyrokinetic powers due to the fire that claimed her life” directly copied from the Danny Phantom Character Wikipedia page. It literally mention her dying or having been alive or a mortal human prior to becoming a ghost FOUR TIMES. No where does it say she’s a “human like monster from another dimension”
Desiree's backstory is in the show. She was a human woman before she became a ghost genie...
Noooo, you don't understand. Sometimes the monsters take on the memories and personalities of people who died. Totally different from ghosts....somehow.
@@albislopez I know, the reason why I was on the DP wiki was because I was originally looking up Desiree’s because I remembered her episode and them going into her back story as a human (The line “she died from a broken heart…and old age” has been stuck in my head for about 20 years). But then I saw Ember’s section and thought it was funny because it pretty much proves Butch was BSing when he said the ghost weren’t humans but monsters that looked like humans
@@lonesavior somehow Butch’s explanation makes less sense then the show about it a 14 year old with ghost super powers
@@lonesavior Those are demons, not establish in the Danny Phantom universe. When the creator doesn't have the rules of their world well stablish, the audience can easily see the fails in the narrative. In more than one episode the ghosts are portrait as people. Case and point:
1. The lady of the school cafeteria
2. Sidney Pointdexter (an old student from Casper high)
3. Pandora, mortal woman from the greek mythology, but a human non the less...
"We're going to save families."
Save families? You couldn't even create my childhood! That man is dead! (RIP Stephen Hillenberg)
Your childhood was one show?
@@lightdarksoul2097 actually, yes- growing up, we didn't have a large cable package, so I didn't get Disney (and I wouldn't know about the cool stuff on CN until later) but we did have Nickelodeon. I wasn't into too many of the shows (I pretty much only watched Fairly Oddparents if there was nothing else on) but SpongeBob was me and all my friends favorites, we would run around saying random quotes (my favorite was "remember, licking doorknobs is illegal on other planets)and laughing and screaming like kids do. So when I think of my childhood, that's what I would remember. Those times, brought to us by that show
The man who created my childhood hasn't been able to create another cartoon since then (Where are you, Danny Antonucci?)
Butch Hartman blaming Tara Strong for Mary Kay Bergman committing suicide pisses me off to no end. how dare you blame Tara for what happened to her friend that in itself is fucking ghoulish
Finding out about Stephen Silver was what really ticked me off about this whole ordeal.
Butch was profiting off of and making a name for himself by using Stephen's work. Meanwhile, most of us have never even heard of him before.
Even better telling everybody he "created our childhood"
@@bigbearkat2010 it was his idea just silvers design dk what you on about
@@DoxajustReacts that he massively overestimates the impact he had on my childhood, not that complicated.
@@bigbearkat2010 sounds like a you problem I'm talking about general public lol
@@DoxajustReacts based on the legacy of the show now, I don't think I'm alone
Tara says that Bergman was her friend right as Butch starts making jokes about suicide, and the look of Tara's face says it all.
It really, really makes me wonder what happened to that Tara who clearly had a lot of integrity to be shocked like that to make her go full Zionist just a few months ago.
Controversies aside, I really feel bad for Tara though.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Yeah, to be told right in the face that she's the reason someone is gone is horrible.
That’s a slap in the face to somebody who voiced your most iconic character for 20 years…I couldn’t believe it
i was writing while watching and I dropped my pen when I heard it. Usually when your hear celebs saying something they shouldn't have its usually misinterpreted or sensationalized. This...this was just in bad taste, poor Tara.
“We’re here in heaven because of your cartoon”
Yoooooooo if that’s what their end goal is after they die then boy are they in for a rude awakening when God calls out their pride ☠️
The working for/with Disney thing is a bit of a nitpick. He clearly says at 28:16 he wanted to work "for" Disney, as in be in their employ, as in work for them as an employee of Disney. But he only ever worked with them in short freelance capacity. Never becoming their employee. I know when I talk to my entertainment industry friends there is a clear distinction of working for someone and working with someone. Like "I work for Warner Bros" means something different than "I work with Warner Bros."
"We never had Danny fight humans."
In her introductory episode, we hear about how Desire died being forced into a relationship with a husband. That drove her to grant everyones wishes in her death.
There’s also Sydney Poindexter. A ghost who used to be a student at Amity High. He had a flashback sequence and everything!
EDIT: To go with your structure, in life, Sydney was a nerd who was picked on by bullies. This resulted in him becoming a wraith who uses his former locker as a medium to lash out against bullies.
_"We never have Danny fight humans."_
**Danny yeets Dash into the locker in the intro**
Did Butch fucking forget about Vlad????? I know he's half-ghost too but the mans still half-human 😬
This one is actually a misunderstanding caused by Butch's word choice. By human, he's referring to actual real-world people, but instead of just saying that, he said what he said...the context clue is in the list he gives immediately after saying it.
Didn't Tucker specifically say that Desiree died from a broken heart and old age? 🤔
Imagine getting mad at being fired from a show for not doing the job well. And then blaming the show for not being good. That's so petty it's comical
Yea really
In other word, life is unfair
Was the My Little Pony show from the late 80's good?
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 depends on your perspective, I suppose. If you're looking for a critically acclaimed show with deep themes and feature film-level cinematography, then no. However, it was a very popular show for young girls and did what it did best: be positive, sweet and happy. It's a staple for many children growing up in the 80s and of course it paved way for MLP: Friendship Is Magic, which is arguably one of the most influential animated shows of the last decade.
But that's all subjective. I suppose you'd have to watch a bit for yourself to see.
The writer excuse :Objection na ah
Sad part I enjoyed his works and his channel in the beginning. He talked about the creative process, did drawing tutorials. Then when the criticisms came in his glass house feelings started to crack and his true self came out. That's when I jumped ship and that was before the Oaxis stuff.
I did as well back in the day. I liked those videos. But some of these comments have shown me that even he knows his reputation has been irreparably damaged. You reap what you sow.
1:21:08 “could you believe if someone killed themselves after watching your show?”
Dunno man, something like that happened at a supermarket in Pennsylvania
Nah Danny phantom isn't his show
Butch Hartman feels like the animation equivalent of that dude who claimed he invented the Roblox "OOF" sound.
I bet his mom is very proud
He really sounds like tolirino 😅
Tommy Tellerico lmfao you're right, Tommy is like the non-religious version of Butch
I guess he's like the animated tommy
ah right, that dude with the many world records
the fact the hartmans want to be PERSONALLY CREDITED into getting in to heaven??? do they think they're God????
Yes
He might be able to plant the seed, but he's not gonna be credited for it, that's for sure.
He's an evangelical this is just what they do.
@@surrealbrain4227
Here is the verse you are referring to :)
“I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. The man who plants and the man who waters have one purpose, and each will be rewarded according to his own labor.”
- 1 Corinthians 3:6-8
Well, I will say that Butch Hartman certainly paid his dues, getting to where he was. I was at Nickelodeon when he was there. We had something in common since we both came from the Metro Detroit area. Specifically, he came from Royal Oak, as I understood. I saw him at a lunch counter while I was at Nick and tried to strike up a conversation with him, being from the same area, thinking this might break the ice. It didn't.
I was in the CatDog unit, which had the largest crew in the studio, some 80 people mostly in layout and storyboard, plus five Directors because we were doing a Strip Show, or a Monday through Friday first run show. I was a Timing Director, essentially an Animation Director to be more specific since I was tasked with working out the precise written commands for the actions according the my sense of timing in reaching key poses. Sometimes poses would be augmented by thumbnail sketches I would draw on the Exposure Sheets in order to add more expression to the animation. CatDog at the time was the most complicated show Nickelodeon was producing until the pick up of Invader Zim. It was complicated because it was medium to full animation with a lot of characters and wild frantic chases with multiple character action during the climax. I always got those difficult scenes. Scenes with fake Multiplane setups or Special Effects also came to my desk. In addition, there were subtle nuances in handling the Cat and the Dog that had to go beyond movement for the sake of movement. This was not a show for beginners, and fortunately I had enough of a background in animation and film production to know what to do. As an example, we had a Layout Supervisor who did not know how to use camera tricks and Pans to eliminate animation. I showed him how. A knowledge of music helped as well especially when a character had to play the piano.
We had the highest standards for doing Slugging and writing out our Exposure Sheets under my supervisor, Russ Mooney. He seemed to appreciate my work and stated on my review that I brought a unique approach. He would sometimes confer with me about technical issues, which can become confusing when you are working on tight schedules requiring the shipping of a production package every Friday. I was fortunate to have my work appreciated. As a result, Butch Hartman had been shown my work at the time he was starting FAIRLY ODD PARENTS. And speaking of "oddly," I found it amusing that Butch reminded me of a brunette version of Beany from Beany and Cecil!
Butch called me into his office with his pinched face grin, and said the reason why he asked for me was because my Exposure Sheets were legible! INDEED!!! Nothing about the content or approach to my direction. That told me a great deal about his knowledge of animation. As it was, he gave me a test as a "Director" based on a short section of FAIRLY ODD PARENTS. I laughed at him and said, "You can put what I do into production. This is nothing." He wanted me to take two weeks learning to draw the characters. Interestingly, there was dialogue indicated on the Storyboard, but the Exposure Sheets did not have the dialogue broken down. I listened to the tape, and still broke it down based on my experience, knowing the basic rhythms of speech. So I did what Butch asked me to do. It turned out he hired a Storyboard Artist as the Animation Director. (I had done Exposure Sheets for this Storyboard Artist/Animation Director on the start up of DORA THE EXPLORER.) When I ran into that fellow at the Ralph's supermarket, he laughed and said, that Director's Test was a joke! INDEED! Well that "joke" wasted two weeks of my time with the expectation that Butch was serious about hiring me. That was so funny I forgot to laugh. Needless to say, I was not hired for the position I was expecting. While I wished no ill will of Butch, perhaps there is something to be said about Karma. She has been, and continues to be my best friend!
Blah-de-blah-de-blah-de-BLAH. Get to the point already.
@@jmac356 If that response rude was to my anecdote, I'm sorry you are not interested in the details. But others seem to be, especially since it's a good story related to this post. The POINT backs up the commentary with a first-hand experience. This gives me credibility. Everyone else got it. Unfortunately you didn't.
I just wanted to pop in and say that CatDog was my absolute FAVORITE show growing up, so I massively appreciate the work you put in that accompanied my childhood! Have a lovely week!
I know I must have failed somewhere when I went to animation school and have no clue what 'Exposure Sheet' means
@@kittenmatchvids6440 That's okay, there were Animation Directors who didn't have a clue, either.
Yeah su*cide didn’t exist until Netflix. Romeo and Juliet came out in the 90s. Clearly it’s a modern problem -eyeroll-
Butch Hartman went on to become the IRL Harvey Dent of the Nickelodeon arc. Considering _Fairly Oddparent's_ tragic demise, the show lives long enough to see itself becoming a villain instead of dying as hero.
That quote will never stop being relevant
He became like Harvey Dent, but without the burn on half his face and the two-headed coin.
So, he's just less cool and just evil, basically.
Butch Hartman is major cancer that needs to be excused from reality with no trace of his corruption.
@@liammcnicholas918 The Dark Knight and it's philosophy is the most iconic in the superhero genre for a reason. It touched on the present nihilistic undertone Western societies have adopted in the absence of traditional values and belief in God (in the greater good). That's why so many mass/school shooters have resonated with Heath Ledger's Joker. Christopher Nolan may have taken inspiration from Nietzsche's "Thus Spake Zarathustra".
i forgot who harvey dent was for a second until i read the replies and remembered who he was lol
Take a shot whenever our childhood creators turn out to be terrible people.
Oh please no, my liver couldn't cope
I think I'll die of alcohol poisoning like that
Warning: Have an ambulance on standby; your liver will thank you.
Gotta drink an entire gallon of vodka each for JK Rowling and Butch Shartman alone.
At this point for me it’s 5 (although I’m counting an actor in this number)
I grew up in a Wiccan/Buddhist household. I remember watching The Fairly Oddparents with all the magical realism and thinking “This is an artist who would understand me.” Wow, was I wrong!
And it doesn’t bother me that he’s Christian! I went to a Catholic college and am married to an Episcopalian. What bothers me is his huge ego, his unwillingness to pay or even credit/thank other artists who work with him, his twisted beliefs surrounding mental illness, and his desire/obsession with Christianity to the point that he wants to force it on everyone.
Now, I'm no diagnostician, nor am I Butch's therapist...
BUT
Narcissistic personality disorder. No question.
The fact that his self-insert's name is Rip Studwell is bad enough, but did he also have to make him a doctor, bodybuilder, and chick magnet? Oh, wait. I think I answered my own question.
Dr. Ripstudwell was also incompetent.
@@icecreamhero2375
What Butch thinks he is: Rip Studwell (FOP)
What Butch actually is on a good day: Dr Hartman (Family Guy)
@@abaddon1503 But in Failry Odd Parents Dr. RipStudwell is shown to be incompetent at his job and a quack doctor but not to the extent of Doctor Hartman.
@@abaddon1503Dr Hartman seems like an awesome guy whos just bad at his job.
I think Rip Studwell was just the other writers making fun of him..
For Butch, seems like the Ten Commandments are actually Eight, because he chose to ignore "Thou shall not lie" and "Love thy neighbor".
Evangelicals seem to have the idea that "all is fair in love and war" when it comes to their imaginary war on faith and the world. So _normally_ lying would be bad, unless you're doing it to spread god's message. It's the classic justifying that allows them to be gross hypocrites.
Love thy neighbour isn't one of the 10 commandments, but he sure as hell covets his neighbours' more successful cartoons.
Actually the lying Commandment is "Thou shalt not give false witness." It also applies to what is used as a psychological game to twist things called "Gaslighting." Same thing, though. A lot of people on the internet do not follow this Commandment.
dont 90% of christians?
@@SamWickens "Thous shall not covet thy neighbours' Spongebob"
Butch really BUTCHERED HIS CAREER...
ba dum tss
In regards to Butch not crediting himself as "working for disney", allow me to be the devil's advocate for a minute as someone who works both in production and coordination in the industry! Yes he has credits on disney shows, but theyre always storyboards for singular or few episodes. Yes you can put them in a portfolio, but in a grand scheme of things, most times they're not that appealing or don't really amount to much in comparison to actively being in the production team. As he said, he knew people who worked on disney, and considering how he doesn't seem to have anything negative to say about it, I can presume he did those one episode storyboards off the production team as one time contracts instead of a full hire. I have done the same for some productions - when the big heads want to cut the budget down, instead of hiring a senior storyboarder they allow me to do the boards in exchange for an extra cache for my coordination work. So I don't think this is a part of the bigger problem at hand, just a general "i don't feel i've ever been in a true production team from disney".
1:01:25 The most beautiful irony of Butch getting commissioned to draw ANGEL DUST of all characters 😭😭
Probably didn't know who he was. Just Googled him and drew the first image that came up.
Bro. That's straight up f*cked up in the head.
thats fucking hilarious XD
he'd be shaking his pearls at the screen if he knew lmao.
The irony hits harder than Angel Dust calling Sir Pentious, "daddy".
Interesting take of "su*cide wasn't common until the internet" when one of the most famous Christmas movies, It's A Wonderful Life, released in 1946 and revolved around a man trying to commit su*cide due to financial troubles before being saved by an angel and shown how him never existing would've affected the people around him so negatively. Feel like that's right up his alley. I mean, not to mention I'm pretty sure they parodied it in Fairly OddParents but, whatever.
🤔
they definitely did parody that in fairly odd parents, and i know this for sure because i had never seen or heard of “it’s a wonderful life” before, so i was surprised when that episode aired and it was just a whole 20 minutes of TV about how timmy makes everyone’s life worse lmao. don’t get me wrong, i loved it, and i did get that jorgen was trying to show timmy was needed only to fail miserably, but it was, uh, an unexpected plotline lol
"It's A Wishful Life" tries to be a parody of one of the most iconic Christmas movies, just like other shows did, yet the message went backwards by saying "people would be better off without you" (and that pretty much explained why Timmy becomes the way he is, considering how suck his life truly is before he got the fairies).
Hasn't seppuku existed for like millennia?
I looked it up and "the s-cide rate in England and Wales has declined by 28% since 1981" Its people who don't know what they're talking about assuming things were better way back when, but they weren't people just covered up the problem back then.
@@dickb1379 Though it might not seem like it because thanks to the internet people commiting is more known than in the past. You wouldn't really read about it in a newspaper back then. It's like that for a lot of things. Problems aren't getting worse, it's just we hear about it now.
Butch: "What's an 'Stephen Hillenburg'?"
"It's one of the creators of our childhoods."
Butch: "But I'm right here?"
"Do you really believe your own hype that much?"
Butch: "I AM THE HYPE!"
Not to be an armchair psychologist, but he definitely comes off as a narcissist :/ like his dislike of introverts “not knowing what they’re thinking” and talking about how great he is and having to remind others of how great he his. Makes his disdain of mental illness even more sad
As a christain myself and also dealing with anxiety, i cant believe that depression is considered "fictional" to Hartman. Smh, man.
Him saying that suicide "didn't exist when he was younger" just shows he was privileged or sheltered when growing up
@@Thundernugget Right? He also has no idea about history in any other country whatsoever, or he'd be aware that seppuku (ritual suicide for causing dishonour) existed in Japan for literal CENTURIES. Then again what can you expect from a happy clapper church that purposely shields themselves from anything that is outside their small circle.
@@Thundernugget the least of his problems I guess
Religious people with power need to virtue signal to stay in power. If they have an inherent bias or dislike they have to spin it in a way that their religion is the cure for it or that it is harmful and should be ignored by people of their religion.
Unfortunately religion always lends itself to abuse of authority and regression.
Stay strong and stay safe, brother
God did not tell Butch to make Cosmo mpreg. 😂
God is kinda freak ngl
What is it with Mpreg anyway? I can name three kid's cartoons that feature it. Fairly Odd Parents, Jimmy Neutron, and that Osmosis Jones cartoon. There's probably more.
@@OnlyTASyou did not just say that
Nickelodeon’s homophobic TQP agenda.
@@menmonstersmachines Mpreg is sometimes used as a fetish or shock value. It being in kids cartoons is a cause for concern, especially when it's blatantly for poking fun at men being pregnant or just being weirdly fetish-y. Makes it a lot harder for the actual men that get pregnant in the world.
They seriously limped "The Fairly Oddparents" along until 2018? It was the only Hartman cartoon worth watching, and it stopped being good in 2005. He is devoid of consistency and ethics, and will say whatever he thinks will gain clout from his audience. What a pathetic shell of mediocrity. I love that age has not been kind to him.
Danny Phantom was good for the first two seasons...but then Marmel left
A comic convention in Denver announced him as a guest. I’m baffled why anyone would want him at their convention
He honestly strikes me as a narcissist who became a "born again" Christian, but that narcissist attitude causes him to try to convince everyone that he has ALWAYS been Christian and pushing religious messaging, especially with how he tries to explain away and defend Danny Phantom, or saying how he puts Christian values into Fairly Odd Parents, when it's clearly not true. He just wants to save face to the new group of people he's trying to get cozy with, claiming he's been there all along with them, when it was obviously something he tried to get into later.
That was the take I got from it as well. He says he was "saved" in the year 2000, well after he started his career as a cartoonist. Yet clip after clip showed showed him shmoozing his Christian audiences by claiming that he's been one all along.
Yeah, narcissists are usually charismatic. It seems sort of like he might've started as a normalish guy, but he and his wife started to get into a cult, then started to think of how they could use the cult for their own egos and financial gains.
What's funny is that growing up in a Christian household, my sisters and I were banned from watching Fairly Odd Parents (for a number of reasons, but primarily because the show portrayed the parents as idiots.) I knew other Christian families that allowed their kids to watch it, but I think it's funny he claims he was trying to put Christian values in it only for it to be rejected by that very audience haha.
@imjust_a Funny, I was banned from watching Fairly Odd Parents because of the magic. However, given how hard the show had fallen, I guess one saving grace for me being unpermitted to watching the show was that I was spared the disaster the show became.
As someone who is a Christian author, I know I'm going to piss off some Christians, mostly parents, with the content I want to write in my books. I get that Butch wants to assure some of the Christians that he wasn't promoting bad things, but here's the thing: you aren't going to agree with your fellow Christian. And, yeah the balance has to be made between, yeah, I don't believe the Bible teaches that but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop watching it. I'm on the fence about theistic evolution, but that doesn't mean I'm opposed to writing about Christians who believe it.
Will there be Christians pissed off at me for doing that? Absolutely, but they don't control what I write. God does.
"Why would you accept fear? Don't you wanna be an original?"
... what? What the fuck does that even mean??
probably, like, "people are always afraid to be themselves, they all fit into the mold, so nobody stands out"
@@power_startastic Then he goes and joins a christian cult. So ironic
These quotes are good
I wanna use them
Yea sounds weird
The reality of courage is that it is not the absence of fear, but the acceptance fear and then taking action in spite of it. Action taken in absence of fear is simply recklessness.
The Oaxis rabbit hole is deeper than I thought.
Holy crap the "Elmer Callout Post" (lol i named it that as a joke back then) was my doc that I wrote back when the Oaxis scandal first happened and I unexpectedly went down the horrifying evangelical cult rabbit hole and how many ties Elmer has to it and the 7 mountain mandate! It's so awesome to see my old post being mentioned, used as a source and also hearing someone else talk about that horrific aspect of how Elmer operates and what he's trying to do! \OUO/ I'm a big fan of your videos so this was definitely a pleasant surprise!
How it started: We want to be the next Spongebob.
How it's going: We want to be the next Veggie Tales.
he wishes smh
I know this is a joke but that's still a pretty hefty goal, apparently Veggie Tales made 30 million bucks just on the first Veggie Tales video released.
(Not even kidding look up how much Veggie Tales made it's kinda insane.)
Veggie Tales is weirdly successful not Spongebob successful but like really successful in it's own right so Butch probably wont even make it to Veggie Tales levels of success cause it made millions.
@@theninjamaster67 Yeah, Veggie Tales is the Spongebob of Christian kids media, and for good reason! It was, for many people, their first exposure to the existence of Christian cartoons that didn't want to make anyone older than the target demographic want to bash their skulls against the nearest wall.
@@theninjamaster67Veggie Tales also largely worked because it was at least honest in what it set out to do… Butch lied about Oaxis, and I doubt anyone will ever trust Butch as fully as they used to.
@@trevinodude Exactly what I'm saying even if he's honest with what he's doing now he has to earn trust again which isn't gonna be easy at all and in general Veggie Tales got kind of a boost cause it was one of the first fully CGI animated things to exist in general right next to Toy Story, Reboot, and Transformers Beast Wars.
My dad met Butch Hartman about 15 years ago in Uganda of all places. Apparently he was involved in some kind of missionary work there which I thought was odd (no pun intended), but it makes so much sense now. My dad had no idea who he was, but of course Butch not-so-subtly brought up his career at the earliest opportunity. He drew pictures of characters from Fairly Odd Parents and Danny Phantom for my niece and nephew (who were toddlers at the time so had no idea who they were, but I guess they were cool gifts for when they grew older) and signed them. He also told my dad he was going to name a character after him (I won’t mention my dad’s name for the sake of his privacy, but it’s a very distinctive and quite rare name), but as far as I know he never did. Butch sounds like the kind of person who is incredibly charming and charismatic when you first meet them, but he’s really an arrogant jerk.
Edit: I just got to the part of the video where you talk about Hartman House. I guess that explains what he was doing in Uganda!
That's so bizarre honestly...
@@lifeisadrag7705I know, right?! I didn’t even find out until my mum casually mentioned it in conversation a few years later because she was wondering whether he actually did end up naming a character after my dad. I thought “how random that Butch Hartman was doing missionary work in Uganda!” 😂 But now we know.
The missionaries are the ones pushing for the anti-gay laws there.
@@CarysCantDance it really is fitting for his character. To give your dad fake flattery on something he obviously never intended on doing for the sake of coming across as a nice guy. (I mean no disrespect to your dad, but it's bizarre and unrealistic to meet someone and literally five minutes later say they're going to name a character after them in one of their shows.) Funny thing is, narcissists think they have everyone fooled, but the reality is, most see right through it from the start.
@@brandikins11As I said, my dad has a pretty rare and distinctive name, and Butch asked if he could use it for a character. I don’t know how long they spoke for or how seriously my dad took him.
What is interesting is that a few years later I was watching Adventure Time and there was a one-off character with a very similar name to my dad’s. I immediately looked it up, and the episode was written by Mark Banker (who’d previously written for Danny Phantom), and Kent Osborne (who wrote an episode of The Fairly Odd Parents). It’s probably just a coincidence though.
I think Butch Hartman is secretly jealous of Seth McFarlen.
Saberspark, did you consider creating a video about Thomas Austruc, creator of Ladybug and Cat Noir. If you are interested, I heard that Thomas is a spiritual successor to Butch Hartman.
Ngl Thomas Austruc is like the Alex Mahan of the Cartoon Industry
Wait, someone named butch hartman created my childhood ? I didn’t know Akira Toriyama changed his name
Yeah, I can't believe fairly oddparents and dragon ball had the same creator
Or Joseph Barbera
Or Astrid Lindgren!
I also didn't know he created Xiaolin Showdown, the Jackie Chan Adventures, Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and Power Rangers
Lol
It's a shame that someone who created such great shows turned out to be such a toxic egomaniac. He's the prime example of what can happen when you let success go to your head.
You got that right.
Nickelodeon seems to have problem hiring people like that.
How the mighty have fallen.
He sure is.
Yep pretty much. It's sad
As someone with depression and anxiety, who is an introvert, and has taken a psychology class, I want to sit Hartman down and give him the facts. I can bring up my own experiences, those of others I know, studies, and the vast amount of information on the internet. Here's just one of many things. The term "introvert" has changed its meaning over time. While we now see it as being shy or needing alone time, it originally was supposed to describe someone who had strong beliefs and values that they would not change, even when the majority would believe otherwise. An extrovert, by contrast, would be someone willing to go with whatever is popular in society and, is okay with changing their beliefs and values as society changes. Both have value: introverts who stand up for what they believe in aid others in their minority, while extroverts are able to adapt quickly to anything that comes their way. By this definition, Hartman is actually an introvert, and I know he would hate that. That's fine with me.
The man pretends magic and gods are real, the facts don't matter to people like that.
As a Christian, his behavior is completely opposite of what it should be. This is the type of person who makes others see Christianity as a hypocritical joke. Especially his views on suicide and being introverted. Both of those topics have affected me in many ways, and his views on them are completely wrong.
“You could really teach people a lot” *as they say the most inane commentary possible*
I was about to rage out in the comments about Butch's claim of Danny Phantom being a pioneer in serialized cartoons, as if literally the DCAU wasn't already solidified at least a decade before that
And not to mention Gargoyles from Disney TVA.
@@abneramaya1736 You can thank Greg Wesiman for that, he also worked on Young Justice, W.I.T.C.H, and Spiderman.
And the audacity to use Avatar: The last airbender as an example is probably the craziest routine of mental gymnastics you could make.
@@abneramaya1736 Or even the X-Men. And to say nothing of how long Anime had been doing it.
Yet he has backtracked on the ghosts of Danny phantom being real people in their human pasts. 😭
11:28 Timmy got that thousand yard stare
I thought that was the Scout from TF2 before you identified him as such
1:04:22 "We didn't know about it, so it didn't exist" is a very boomer thing to believe.
The Danny Phantom fandom rejected him years before his shittiness became as public as it is. I joined after that happened, so I don't really know *why* it happened, but clearly they were on to something lol
Oh really?
I was there, I can tell you exactly what happened. Butch had one of his mods ban any art, discussion, jokes, or even mentions about slash, aka gay ships. The claim was that his fans would make him look bad and hurt his reputation, as well as the idea that it was completely inappropriate for younger fans on his forums to even encounter the *idea* of something being gay.
And it wasn't just on his forums, mind you. The mods would keep an eye out for people posting about slash on OTHER WEBSITES and would ban for it!
Post a picture on deviantart of Danny and Tucker holding hands? Banned, no warnings, no nothing, all for what you do on another website.
The mod's name was Zcat and record of this stuff is hard to find, those forums are pretty much lost now. There used to be a single screenshot I could find, but it seems that's lost now too.
Funnily enough I was able to find one of my old Fandom friends live journal post from the time ranting about it
@@jaceybella1267Well, too bad for Hartman because the Slash fanart isn't going anywhere
@@seeleunit2000 oh absolutely lol, the original post is from 2006 or something, clearly it didn't do shit for his concerns
@@seeleunit2000 Slash is far from the most disturbing thing I've ever stumbled across, and that includes Danny Phantom fanworks.
As someone who only really started trying to become an artist half a decade ago, I can’t even imagine myself lying to people saying that I designed these specific characters by myself when I had other people actually helping me design them! Like, taking credit for something someone else did just seems like one of the most asshole-ish things to do to someone!
Remember in a brocast video he almost made Tara strong cry with his,'" joke'" cause of the voice actress voiced Timmy in what's a cartoon thing. Saying,'' this is your fault.'' I feel bad for Tara.
@@lissettgonzalez2707 God, that is legit horrible, dude!
@@lissettgonzalez2707 As much as I don't like Tara now (she's done some problematic things), that is terrible
@@justjoannak Agreed!
@@justjoannak Yeah, Tara is a bad person. It's surprising that so many people don't know that.
I’ve never seen such a passionate sponsorship than this guy and his mattress. I’ve seen preachers shouting with passion to the high heavens whose performance couldn’t match his vigor
It absolutely blew my mind when you said that one of "The Garden" characters was supposed to be a lion. Absolutely NOT. That weird flower that is floating inches behind his head is supposed to be a lion mane that's GROWING OUT of his head??? No. Not in any way will I accept that.
Nickelodeon has an impressive track record of ruining lives...
Between this, John K, the "Quiet on the set" film...they are boned. No amount of SpongeBob can fix it
That can be an ad
Somehow it got worse than Disney
@@lengeyartthat’s arguable but yeah
@@antyep fought Nickelodeon Kaiju! antyep teamed up with King Kong to defeat Nickelodeon!
Wow if I had a nickel for every creator that worked with Nick that Shaped their network and inspired thousands of children years later only to be Discover that he or she was a horrible person in real life I would have 2 nickels Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
This video couldn't have come at a better time on that quiet on. The set documentary was released and now everyone hating Nickelodeon and people like Saberspark and his team show us why we should not promote this Kind of.
Behavior ❤
More than twice actually, you'll have a lot of nickels
Sadly, there probably is more across all kids' networks. It's just buried under NDAs, paperwork, and hush money.
My farts are better than Saberspark’s farts 💨
@3mermaidmelodyfanatic3 he let pride consume him, so he wasn’t exactly a good person. Also the second person they’re talking about is Dan Schneider, who was an abuser and was weird with kids
It's wild that he calls introverts "selfish". In that same token, extroverts are just, if not MORE, selfish, trying to force everyone else to interact with THEM all the time.
1:15:54 As someone that went to culinary school, worked in kitchens for many years, and used to have their food handlers license, people should NOT being wearing gloves when serving food. It is less safe because people don't change their gloves enough and don't wash their hands enough. Wearing gloves is done almost exclusively because people perceive it to be cleaner, but it's not (unless the glove is covering a wound).
The proper way to wear gloves is to wash and dry your hands before you put gloves one, and after you take them off, even if you're just putting new gloves on right away. This is a pain in the ass because putting damp hands into wet gloves is stupid hard. As a result, people avoid changing their gloves, which is less sanitary than not wearing gloves at all.
This is also why, even during the peak of the COVID pandemic, public health advised against wearing gloves. It's better to not wear gloves and just wash your hands because people either don't know, or don't follow, the steps for wearing gloves for sanitation reasons.
In Butch's defense, I would also refuse to admit I worked on Doogal.
Doogal might be one of the worst animated movies I've ever seen, and I've seen some real stinkers. My brain had actually deleted the memory of it until Saberspark had to bring it up again!
It's funny, because I looked up Doogal recently. I saw that it was originally in French, and bizarrely dubbed by English actors and American actors in two separate versions of the film. The British one was considered okay, but the American one bombed hardcore. I wondered why it was so bad, until I looked it up and found out Butch Hartman wrote the screenplay for the American version. Everything made sense after that.
Agreed, and I saw the original Brit version of TMR due to being Brit. (stayed over at a family member's house and they had it on DVD so they put it on XD) Can't remember crap about it except the credit song.
Shame because dad loves the original show and Blue Cat film.
The only reason I remember Doogal is because I had a friend that every time he left his laptop unattended my friends and I would change his wallpaper to an identical one except we would hide a tiny picture of Doogal somewhere in it. I don't remember how or why that joke started but we thought it was hilarious.
Take a film that was already dubbed into English with somewhat well-known British actors replace them with B-list American stars and horrible and dated pop culture references and fart jokes
So glad you mentioned Stephen Silver in this video. The character designer who developed the FOP/ DF art style needs to be discussed more often.
Update: He has a discord server on his website, and schedules appointments for professional advice on his page. Would recommend if you are looking for character design advice.
unpopular opinion, The Fairly OddParents was always a mediocre show, it had few good jokes but the constant mean spirited writing, repetition of jokes made it boring, at leats for me.
1:06:07 I've always heard from others about Butch trying to put Tara at fault for Mary's suicide but I've actually never seen the clip myself. Hearing that caught me completely off-guard especially the way with how he just laughs it off like a joke. I would have immediately just stopped the podcast altogether if I were in that position or told him off.
Danny Phantom also had Desiree. Her debut episode literally shows her backstory of her once being human.
Danny Phantom was and still is very good. Would like a sequel series like X Men 97. But without Butch Hartman involved.
Cujo breaks into the now empty kennels to get his toy back
@@germyforev4495 And while not a villain, there was the Diary King in Vlad's first episode.
And Poindexter has his own backstory too
@@joeldean2706 Just as long as they don't retcon his parents knowing he's Phantom. Again.
Really sucks that nearly every creator of a successful Nickelodeon property is doomed to turn out to be awful :(
Yeah Nick is a Curse.
Not always. There’s always Stephen Hillenberg and Rob Renzetti
@@MangoMagicafor me I admire Jorge R Gutierrez who created el Tigre, my most favorite Nickelodeon series. He really seems so kind and humble and does look like he has a good relationship with his family. I really hope that’s the case, Because it would really hurt me if he turns out the same like the other awful creators 😣
At least Jhonen Vasquez made it out unscathed. Also the creators of Doug and Hey Arnold are genuinely nice people.
@@MangoMagica *Also don't forget Steven Hillenburg who created the longest living Nicktoon, SpongeBob SquarePants!* 🧽
*He was also a good guy and... FUN FACT... was a marine biologist!*
I showed him saying, "Wise as a serpent, and harmless as a dove" to my mother and asked her for her opinion on it. She told me that it means to be gentle and kind like a dove but to be aware of your surroundings and smart like a serpent. Know the tricks and ways that a serpent would use to prey on someone and protect yourself from them while still being a good person.
Pureflix rejected The Garden? Wow that is a new low, especially with Butch's CV.