Detroit Street Legends: The Cocaine Years

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • Legendary criminal defense attorney Steve Fishman joined us in studio. "Fish" represented some of Detroit's most epic street legends and drug lords, including Terry Flenory from BMF, Demetrius Holloway, and Frank "Nitti" Usher among others. He also advocated on behalf of White Boy Rick's release.
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Комментарии • 91

  • @Clonglomerate
    @Clonglomerate Год назад +9

    Love how Fish talks about the past! The 80’s were something. Also, I think Fish is good for the culture on how he speaks up for the untapped talent in the city in regards to business minds and leadership.

  • @thejamaicanpolak3988
    @thejamaicanpolak3988 Год назад +14

    I could hear Steve Fishman tell stories all day.

  • @abriaangel9986
    @abriaangel9986 11 месяцев назад +7

    I love Fishman's interviews!

  • @joedoomsdaypio4374
    @joedoomsdaypio4374 Год назад +11

    As a Native Detroiter now living in the Pacific Northwest, I REALLY appreciate the Podcast...and get homesick...
    Like they used to say on Channel 4, STAND UP AND TELL EM YOURE FROM DETROIT!

    • @rick_4760
      @rick_4760 11 месяцев назад

      I feel ya, not Dtown, but Jersey! It’s therapeutic!

  • @WillStevens8
    @WillStevens8 Год назад +6

    I met Steve Fishman a few years ago 2017-18, great guy.

  • @danmiron3210
    @danmiron3210 Год назад +5

    This is becoming my favorite podcast,keep up the good work talking about detroit.steve is the man!!!

  • @jason6010
    @jason6010 Год назад +5

    Great episode, gents. Fishman is fascinating to listen to. I'd like to see him on more episodes. Please have him back more often.

  • @chaddevine565
    @chaddevine565 9 месяцев назад +3

    I love how real deal Steve Fishman is. He corrected knowledgeable big mouth about African American b*******..."Their black guys not african american"... That's a real man from the old school. And I believe a lot of older black men feel the same way.
    It's like as politically correct terminology changes throughout the years. We are supposed to change with it..... But I respect people who were raised in certain generations who don't change who they are. To be politically correct as The Times change.

  • @terencejones8422
    @terencejones8422 10 месяцев назад +5

    LOL!!!...Tell him again Fish...We not all from Africa...some of us from here ( Black is the term)😂😂😂

  • @terencejones8422
    @terencejones8422 Год назад +3

    My Oldman told me Frank Usher said Maserati Rick was next in line after he introduced Rick to me I was 15years old and Rick was 23years old at Pat's Lounge in the middle of the day..(I remember it like yesterday)

  • @rudysaleh9723
    @rudysaleh9723 11 месяцев назад +3

    Ever gonna do a story Harry Kalasho? Biggest drug dealer in MI history.

  • @richslater745
    @richslater745 Год назад +4

    Steve is a real one one of the realist white men I have ever came across 🎉🎉🎉give Steve his flowers

  • @raymondmoore7464
    @raymondmoore7464 11 месяцев назад +1

    Yes I talked with cuzzo yesterday he's on his way to Vegas tomorrow

  • @daviddesor
    @daviddesor Год назад +2

    Fishman is so kool

  • @travisdrury5556
    @travisdrury5556 Год назад +11

    Fishman has to disagree with scott every chance he could lol

    • @tomasmccarthy3060
      @tomasmccarthy3060 Год назад +2

      Lmfao , thinking the same thing . Fishman is the real deal man .. Scott is an encyclopedia but fishman lived this shit in the courtroom .

    • @AngeloBrooks-t2j
      @AngeloBrooks-t2j 9 месяцев назад +1

      That's because Scott is uninformed and talks to much

    • @Trevor_Bolin
      @Trevor_Bolin 2 месяца назад

      Right lol

  • @daviddesor
    @daviddesor Год назад

    Thanks again, loved it

  • @trishaberry4239
    @trishaberry4239 10 месяцев назад +1

    Steve is a good lawyer deny deny deny 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jamescompton5977
    @jamescompton5977 Год назад +3

    Cornelius Pitts is a legend

    • @wood4278
      @wood4278 Год назад +2

      I know him...he helped out my brother back in the early 90's

  • @justinsnell7822
    @justinsnell7822 Год назад

    Best video I have seen on RUclips in years

  • @tortillero3138
    @tortillero3138 Год назад +1

    Basketball sentences he said LOL

  • @TheToneytone
    @TheToneytone 10 месяцев назад +2

    dude trying to says Terry and Meech was smart but dumb he right nobody knew the flenory so Meech paid big money by spending big money in the club so people would know them, dude just took to far now the feds was coming they had been watching sense the early 90s waiting to strike, you guy think they was fooling and out smarting the feds come bmf did what they did and it came to an end just like it was suppose to, next man up in the game remember the game don't change just player

  • @gregwoods9590
    @gregwoods9590 Год назад +3

    Let Steve answer

  • @danmiron3210
    @danmiron3210 Год назад +5

    All the people that were at Rick's trial were there not on his behalf they were trying to get him convicted you've done a podcast with the one guy from the best friends and he admitted that

  • @dollazandsense
    @dollazandsense 10 месяцев назад +2

    Well one thing y’all keep not mentioning about bmf was THAT THEY WAS TRYING TO GET INTO MUSIC THATS WHY THE BILLBOARDS WAS UP WHY DO YALL KEEP TRYING PUSH THE NARRATIVE THAT THEY WAS TRYING TAUNT THE LAW THEY WAS PROMOTING MUSIC

  • @LOUDsigh
    @LOUDsigh 6 дней назад

    Who is Cliff Jones? Fish mentions him talk8ng about Demetrius halloway

  • @Bloki1997
    @Bloki1997 Год назад

    Great vid as always. Do you guys know why meech and terry aren’t on speaking terms?

    • @elipalm1410
      @elipalm1410 Год назад +1

      terry stole 3mil worth of coke and hung his brother out to dry

  • @josephsierzengaIV
    @josephsierzengaIV Год назад +3

    Haven’t had time to watch…
    But I hope I hear about where these guys were getting the H!
    The Partinico faction also known as the lower Sicilian group of the Detroit Partnership. That crew supplied EVERYONE. EVERYWHERE with affiliations from NY-LA

    • @originalgangsterspod
      @originalgangsterspod  Год назад +1

      We only mentioned the Italians briefly in this episode, but this episode was exclusively about the Detroit Mafia and narcotics: ruclips.net/video/JP8JiDDhd4M/видео.html

  • @rahnelsparks3479
    @rahnelsparks3479 Год назад +2

    Yo love your show but stop cutting people off they're talking about being there your talking about research you never been in the streets with all do respect he keeps correcting you much love

  • @chaddevine565
    @chaddevine565 9 месяцев назад +1

    I like Scott. He's a very knowledgeable man on the history of these gangsters from all nationalities, especially from Detroit. But he is almost as bad as owl with the interrupting. It's almost like they battle with their guests that they are interviewing on each other's level of knowledge. Because if you hear something that he feels is a little off. He cuts the man off before he's done with his sentence and tries to correct them to his particular belief.

  • @jimmieparker-eo5ts
    @jimmieparker-eo5ts Год назад +1

    My pops was part of the jones org...bones his best friend was a best friend and my god father...i remember the best friends having block parties on my block i lived on corbett and dickerson and lived 2 houses down from a bestfriend hit man...my unle fred Whaley was yh top chef at the roostertail on Jefferson and a big numbers man i met alot of them on grey and we used to be behind big meech store catching bees..lol and to yhis day ppl are infactuated with the stories i tell...

    • @griostone4834
      @griostone4834 10 месяцев назад

      who where your ppl my father was a original member Mark patrick deceased got killed in inkster, andre patrick is living with life him in reg the only original members i know but i am younger

  • @B-unit13
    @B-unit13 Год назад +2

    Damn this Steve Fishman knows his stuff. It would be awesome if he could get together to help Kim K in getting Corey Miller a.k.a. C-Murder an appeal and finally released for the bs life sentence he serving which he shouldnt be. 😬😔

  • @PaulWilborn
    @PaulWilborn 22 дня назад

    They started as the 50 boyz then became BMF.they had Southwest Detroit,Ecorse,River Rouge on lock.then took national wide

  • @Jason-vj8rs
    @Jason-vj8rs Год назад

    Great show. G.o.a.t.s

  • @LOUDsigh
    @LOUDsigh 6 дней назад

    Why did Fish get off Tee case?

  • @raymondmoore7464
    @raymondmoore7464 11 месяцев назад

    R u from southwest?

  • @brianbenevento6594
    @brianbenevento6594 Год назад

    You guys deserve way more followers 👏, LFG

  • @MegaTuber86
    @MegaTuber86 Год назад +3

    I felt the guest was not expressing himself fully. he seemed to pretend to not know a lot of things.

  • @dollazandsense
    @dollazandsense 10 месяцев назад +1

    Also the heat came with them when all terry people kept getting busted not cuz meech was partying I’m tired of hearing seeing that narrative pushed. The heat ain’t come cuz the billboards of them promoting music the heat came when terry and then kept getting busted for keys

  • @benjamin5726
    @benjamin5726 Год назад

    Turning criminals into victims is not what we are going to do Steve.

  • @demondburgen3960
    @demondburgen3960 Год назад +2

    Plz let the guess talk. Stop talking over the guess please

  • @benjamin5726
    @benjamin5726 Год назад +2

    Hate to break it to you Steve but you are a white guy….

  • @1Luv.photography
    @1Luv.photography 11 месяцев назад

    I love Steve but the host of this needs to let Steve talk. Also you are the prime example of what Steve said at the beginning. Let him talk.

  • @davidleasterlingjr2038
    @davidleasterlingjr2038 8 месяцев назад

    Quit cutting him off scott!

  • @mikedupree832
    @mikedupree832 2 месяца назад

    EF Hutton

  • @richslater745
    @richslater745 Год назад +1

    He hit It on the head people love this because we wish we had the balls to do this stuff but we have the sense to not be a criminal because look how it ends.

    • @chardin1900
      @chardin1900 Год назад +1

      Nah it’s because u was raised properly!!!!!! Crime isn’t for everyone. Some of y’all are gangsters in your world 🌎 u don’t have to be a criminal to be someone that people don’t want to mess with. 💯👈🏿

  • @brianmaye9827
    @brianmaye9827 Год назад +1

    I love the show but stop trying to show how much you know and just listen.

  • @MPS2627
    @MPS2627 Год назад +1

    Steve Fishman is black lol😅😅😂😂

  • @errickcross3137
    @errickcross3137 11 месяцев назад +1

    This guy is not for the culture he seems like a watered down vlad tv. Steve is truly for the culture. Steve corrected him for the African American comment

    • @JohnLove-y8v
      @JohnLove-y8v 2 месяца назад

      Europeans ALWAYS lead with COMPASSION when it comes to the INDIGENOUS people before they go for your throat

  • @KaniJoinbricks-dg6ke
    @KaniJoinbricks-dg6ke Год назад +1

    Hahahahaha everything baseball cap says is WRONG. I've seen dude's like this all day long. They act they in the streets deep and DON'T KNOW SHYT. he can't even figure out that every time he opens his mouth it gets shut down so just shut up and let those that know do the talking. Hahahahaha.

  • @oscarpapa8936
    @oscarpapa8936 4 месяца назад

    Did Steve ever defend any Nigerians?

  • @raymondmoore7464
    @raymondmoore7464 Год назад

    Listen they talk about B.MF. like they ran Southwest the Counts Flows and Cobras ran Southwest from 88 to about 2005 there were factions of guys moving keys but they were not getting them from BMF these story tellers should really get this right. Now they might of been dealing with other guys in the city but not in Southwest

    • @chriswil5919
      @chriswil5919 11 месяцев назад

      You talkn abt the Mexican side of Southwest Detroit! Meech & T from the black side of Southwest by Visger st. / Schaefer area near River Rough /Ecorse ..

    • @raymondmoore7464
      @raymondmoore7464 11 месяцев назад +1

      @chriswil5919 what's up my brother you right my cousin lived on Liebold Anderson Hunt.

    • @chriswil5919
      @chriswil5919 11 месяцев назад

      @@raymondmoore7464 👍🏾 !! That boyy had game 🏀… #Detroit

  • @Reverands420
    @Reverands420 2 месяца назад

    Fishman is married?

  • @rong.thej.d.5969
    @rong.thej.d.5969 10 месяцев назад

    they weren't from kenya LMAO

  • @chardin1900
    @chardin1900 Год назад

    500 dollar fine for cussing in the 80s ?🤔

  • @erikboyd6776
    @erikboyd6776 Месяц назад

    It was not good at all. He called us Africa- America.. That wasn't nice. Steve was excitly..

  • @ericwright2594
    @ericwright2594 Год назад

    Deeeeeeeetroit

  • @Nciswit1
    @Nciswit1 Год назад +3

    Nice to see the two “experts” get schooled by an old school legal shark who actually knew the subjects intimately.

    • @Nciswit1
      @Nciswit1 Год назад +3

      @@KHLB516
      Yes; Shylock = Lawyer

    • @Rich-sl8yq
      @Rich-sl8yq Месяц назад

      Shylocking=loan shark.
      The new dudes make new definitions for old words

  • @MrGunnaC
    @MrGunnaC 9 месяцев назад

    This is a horrible interview. Let him speak, you’re talking over everything.

  • @jackruby4680
    @jackruby4680 Год назад +6

    Man that Fishman is arrogant

    • @Reils223
      @Reils223 Год назад +4

      Listening to this, I thought the same thing. What a jerk..

    • @jackruby4680
      @jackruby4680 Год назад +2

      @@Reils223 yeah you got to love Scott and Jimmy but to put that guy on the show and all he does is talk shit

    • @danmiron3210
      @danmiron3210 Год назад +2

      Steve is far from a jerk in my opinion and he's got decades of getting people found not guilty,he can do whatever he wants.

    • @Reils223
      @Reils223 Год назад +5

      @@danmiron3210 hey I’m sure he’s a good lawyer but that doesn’t give him the right to be arrogant to the hosts. It’s just my opinion and I don’t think I’m the only one who thinks that..

    • @mob4336
      @mob4336 Год назад +4

      Fishman is lost in the sauce .

  • @schrisdellopoulos9244
    @schrisdellopoulos9244 Год назад +2

    Shiffman corrected the host about most of what he asserted as bullshit.
    I believe the Shylock who was with these guys. "Three piece suit?" No, not three piece suits. Yes, they all know what conspiracy means. Schooled! Bam.
    Now we're not sure about anything dude says.

    • @Nciswit1
      @Nciswit1 Год назад

      Exactly; nice to see the “experts” get schooled by someone who really does of what he speaks of, not grandiose speculation for the sake of being center of attention.