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You can reach out to your county agricultural extension agent and ask if there's a way to get your tree variety/cultivar IDed. In Texas it should be through A&M. At first glance it does look like a pecan, and there could be other reasons it didn't produce this year. Black walnut will have two small leaflets at the end of compound leaf and pecan usually just has one centered. Hope this helps!
My dad swears by planting carrots and marigolds together, as the marigolds help protect the carrots from pests.
Yes I have heard this too. It is a natural pest repellant.
Interesting tip.
Shelbi, consider contacting the Austin Permaculture Guild and signing up for a course, or hiring someone to come and answer your questions. A backyard garden consultation and local professional advice will save you so much work, time, and money in the long-run.
What about raised beds? That seems logical.
I second this
Some tips that may save you time, get your soil tested. Your local extension center can help. If your land slopes towards your house, that is not good because water can get into your foundation. Raised beds will be your friend with your situation.
Second this. You may also end up planning beds that stagger from the "top" of your slope to essentially catch any water that would go towards your foundation (I have to do the reverse because my property slopes down to a bulkhead and the water runoff erodes the soil).
The trees are definitely not black walnut trees. Black walnuts are actually green on the outside, and baseball sized. The leaves of both the walnut and pecan trees look very similar (both have pinnate leaves) so I think the app was confusing them because your pictures only had the leaves. Good luck with continuing to plan the garden!
I suggest hiring an arborist. They will be able to identify your trees for you, but will also be able to thin the canopy and/or remove any dead or diseased limbs. This makes the tree itself more healthy by increasing airflow, and light access to the lower branches. It also means that your garden will be in dappled sunlight, rather than full shade. In Texas that may be the greatest thing you can do for many plants in the height of summer. I would also suggest that you look into swales when it comes to your slope (if you have been looking into permaculture, I am sure you already have). Plant your most moisture tolerant plants at the bottom of your slope, and those that like well drained soil at the top. But that's just my two cents.
I live in a rental house that has two 80 plus year old pecan trees on the property one of which shades a portion of my back porch and gives me a whole lot of leaves every fall. I have irises, red honeysuckle, and all manner of different suculents growing right next to the fence separating the tree and my backyard. The fence in about 5 feet from the tree's trunk. I also grow asparagus, sweet potoatoes, asian greens, Japaneese red mustard, tomatoes, blueberries, black berries and raspberries near the tree. I do use containers and raised beds to reduce tree root contact with my plants. I have been using the leaves from the pecan tree for making leaf mold and using the leaves shreaded up as mulch in my garden for years with no problems. There is not enough jugalone in the leaves to cause problems when used this way in the garden as the jugalone breaks down as the leaves compost down in my leaf mold pile and as they slowly breakdown as mulch in the garden. I would suggest checking with your local university agricultural extenstion office in Austin because they will have the best information as to what to grow around your pecan trees.
Love to see you and Madison glowing in Austin
I wonder if you could maybe trim/thin out some of the pecan tree limbs to allow more light to filter in? We have a big tree at my parent's house and my dad does this for his gardens and it seems to do pretty well. Of course this would take away from the shade aspect but maybe not too much? Idk, worth a try I guess lol
Didnt know about companion plants, gonna implement it on my garden
My tomato plants did great with lots of basil plants. Consider raised beds. You should have a local arborist you can have come look at your trees.
Black walnuts have a green skin on the nut, mid summer through the fall. Also if you take a leaf and squish and rub it between your fingers, it has a strong, pungent dark earthy/green scent. Also if you squeeze the skin of the nut it will stain your hands black. If I was 1000 miles closer I could help you by just smelling the leaves. Very distinct scent.
i’ve stopped using plant ID apps entirely because they can be so bad. I’m doing a permaculture design course right now and we have spent the first 8 weeks observing our site and testing various things so it is a huge job! excited to be on this journey with you ☺️
I took a plant ecology course so you might be in luck!
Beans and corn are good partners I heard, because beans fixate nitrogen, which helps fertilize corn. Another way to also look at companion plant pairings is whether the plants are C4 (need lots of sunlight), C3 (tolerates low sunlight) or CAM (most tolerable with the least amount of sunlight). Corn is a C4 plant while beans are a C3 plant, so this also makes an ideal pairing because they're not competing against each other as much for sunlight.
You might also want to consider growing crops with beneficial fungi, as they can similarly provide nutrients for your crops, or better yet, provide defenses against harmful fungi. A fungi species that I know is beneficial is mycelium. A general term for beneficial fungi is mycorrhyzae, so you might find more helpful results using this term.
Also, I would recommend using the app SEEK in order to get more info on what kind of tree you have in your garden. SEEK has a numbering system that shows how accurate the device is at identifying a species, so you might get more information on the kind of tree you have that way (via the family or genus, for example). I also would recommend posting pictures of your tree on Reddit on r/whatisthisplant, as I tend to find botanical geniuses there.
Cilantro and bok choy are two companion plants I have going in my square foot garden right now. To maximize continuous yield, I'd look into succession planting. Take radishes for example. I'd plant 1/4 of the total amount of space you have to start, and then plant another 1/4 of your total a week later. When you harvest the first batch of radishes, you can then plant again in that spot and have a continuous supply through the season. For your sloped yard, you might be able to integrate terraces.
There is a companion group called the 3 sisters and it's corn, beans and squash. It's interesting how they help each other, and I'm going to try it this year. If you look up three sisters companion planting you will find it 😊
They should definitely do three sisters, especially since she loves pumpkins!!
Yes true and don’t forget to credit the people where this came from, the free nations! Sad that your ancestors killed most of them of, could have learnt so much more!
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Hey Shelbi!
So with apps like that it's super important to take pictures of bark and buds as well to help identify. Also look at twigs and differentiate leaf scars, leaf arrangement ext to help!
Terrace your beds so that the slope give water a place to rest when it rains and the ground will be able to soak it up more easily
Also since you don't eat your chicken eggs the tomatoe plants can really benefit from being planted with an egg each. Not sure if you do that already but thought I'd let y'all know ☺️
I would suggest reading Gaia's Garden by Toby Hemenway. It covers a lot of permaculture ideas. One is about creating guilds with jugalone trees. Mulberry trees are known to be able to minimize the effects of jugalone in the soil should you want to plant other non-jugalone compatible plants.
You may have just solved a garden mystery for me! Im going to have to research to be sure but I had cucumbers last year that just kept dying - and guess what I planted them by? A black walnut. I had no idea! Thank you for sharing this!
I don't know if anyone else said this- but you might want to look into raised garden beds if your tree turns out to be toxic. Much more of a hassle I'm sure, but using compost and sustainably sourced dirt (aka peat moss free) I'm sure you can find a way! Looking forward to future videos.
Amber on The Fairly Local Family has some companion gardening videos. She’s in Canada but has a huge backyard garden.
Who knew gArdening could be so brain intensive, lol. Best of luck with all that. I have a black thumb, you can’t trust me around plants.
Check with Travis County Master Gardeners in Austin. They’d be able to identify your trees. They also run classes on local gardening and are a great resource. You should check them out.
Okay Ladies, you might consider consulting with a landscape architect regarding that slope. You don’t want to plant in a way that might funnel the water towards your foundation. ;-)
Pecans produce every other year. Most things you can grow in the spring in Texas you can grow in the early parts of winter. We've got potatoes, radishes, and shallots this year. Sadly the super early freeze we got in November killed off the potatoes. If you want to ward off aphids you can put a yellow cup on a little post and smear vaseline on it. The aphids are drawn to the color yellow and the get stuck in the vaseline and die.
Ask in your Buy Nothing Group if someone who knows plants could help you ID
They call it a "gift of service"
Got a tip! I am an ecologist working on natural pest control and it can be very beneficial to look up what pests are common in your area and on the plants you want to grow. Then search for natural enemies of those pests and their host plants! Sadly I am not an expert of North American pests, but an example is hoverflies as natural pest control of aphids. Hoverflies are also pollinators but are definetely not attracted by all flowers.
The house I grew up in had a huge black walnut in the backyard. When we tried to grow a small veggie garden, the plants grew and got pretty big but didn’t produce fruit. But my mom still grows herbs back there though, so maybe leafy things aren’t affected? Worst case scenario you could do leafy greens and herb in the beds and everything else in containers.
I feel like you seem really kind but your actions really oppose that emotion but good luck with you garden
Look into forest gardening. It is so cool :) I recommend the Parkrose Permaculture channel on yt!
You could use a swale and berm style system to plant on your slope, it catches water. I would be careful where you plant your perennials, since they will get bigger over time and are more of a pain to move. Don’t plant them so that they will shade out the rest of the garden unless you want shady areas, or want to protect some plants from hot afternoon sun, etc.
Unless you are planning on digging up all the grass, you won’t have much runoff to worry about, and something like a swale can help catch the runoff as well. A couple bushes won’t catch sediment or hold soil nearly as well as a ground cover will, so try to keep the soil covered unless you are using the bed for annuals.
Permaculture is more about perennial crops (among other things), so adding berry bushes, nitrogen fixers, small fruit/nut trees, will be good to start with (plus take longer to establish, so I would start with them). Make use of the different layers! You’ve got a nice canopy layer started with those mature trees, so start adding in bushes, shrubs, fruit trees, etc. :) over the summer/winter, pay attention to how the sun crosses your yard so you can make the most use of the sunlight. You may want to prune them a bit to allow more sunlight to filter down to the ground.
This looks like so much fun! My yard is quite small, and doesn’t have a ton of sunshine, so I’m very jealous! Have fun! There are no mistakes, only opportunities to learn. And all gardening advice is just that, advice. There is no right way to garden, and what works in your neighbours yard might not work in yours, so experiment too and don’t take anyone too seriously 😀
Normally plants that give back nutrients to the soil are called cover crops. The one I did research on was peanuts. They have commercially grown all over the south. They can stand temps from 95 - 32 F. If Texas gets another freeze you can put a tarp over it. That is a common gardening fact lots of people know.
Our problems were super wet spring where all the best planting spots sunwise would flood, super dry summer, high clay soil. Our cost effective solution was hugelkultur beds since we had a lot of available fallen wood on our property. We've only had one growing season so far and it went pretty well so I'm hoping it will improve as the wood breaks down
You have such a beautiful home 😊
Hi Shelbi! many folks have said this, but it would be a great idea to contact your locla county extension office about those pecan/walnut trees. If they are the dreaded walnut, could you do really tall raised beds and planter towers, like Greenstalk?
Still can’t get over how beautiful your house is!! So happy for you 🎉
I highly recommend the book "Carrots love Tomatoes" by Louise Riotte - I got my copy 2nd hand and it's been extremely helpful with planning companion gardening!
My thoughts are you could try doing some raised beds for plants. Even putting a tarp under them to prevent the soil from mixing. You should be able to find everything at your local garden store. Good luck! :)
Shelbi, I believe black walnuts should have chambered piths. That might be something to google if you want to verify or rule it out
Ps the pith is the inside of a twig. You can take a pocket knife and cut the twig in half horizontally. You’ll see little chambers on the inside
Wow! I just wanted to say that's how I feel when doing research about most anything! Good luck and thanks for sharing your journey!
Tippy and the chickens are supervising :)
Your hair looks so good :) love how you've been doing it. Awesome vlog I need to start planning my garden also.
My grandparents always had french marigolds between tomatoes. And I remember every spring windowsills in their apartment full of tomato baby plants (they were growing tomatoes from seeds in old yogurt cups and when they were big enough they moved them to the greenhouse)
It's crazy how many things I know how to do, because I was watching them and I just recoded in my head - this is how you do it, but I have no idea why 😂
I’ve also planted tomatoes and marigolds together. Worked well.
Laptop is an interesting concept.
For veggie companions, I recommend The Vegetable Gardener's Bible by Edward c. Smith. Smith also has a great book on growing veggies in containers. For pruning fruit trees, Pruning and Training by David Joyce and C. Brickell.
Last year was my first garden. Got one of those since you can put on the ground. I learned that there is no shade in my backyard except for one tree right smack in the middle. So I learned that I need to either build or figure out how to get a sunshade for my plants, because the only thing I could keep alive was tomatoes and carrots. I tried going cucumbers and bell peppers. Those didn’t turn out so well. This time around I feel a little bit more confident in what I need to do in order to get more produce or at least good produce that I could use. I think that this video will be really helpful for me at least in the future. So thank you for sharing❤
I'm planning out my garden and it was great to watch you doing the process! A plant combination I read about recently is called "The Three Sisters": corn, climbing beans, and winter squash planted as trios of one of each. I read about it in Braiding Sweetgrass (really enjoying it!) by Robin Wall Kimmerer.
When I first started watching your channel a couple of years ago one thing that really drew me in was that y'all are also women engineers and it made me smile in this video =] As someone who is dyslexic and is also an audiobook lover, the tech for having written text read aloud is getting better and better and I was recently impressed by that in the accessibility features in macOS. I think there is something similar on Kindle (and maybe on the Intel Evo Platform to stick with today's theme =D) Also your hair looks amazing!
I think you’d really enjoy reading Nature’s Best Hope by Douglas Tallamy before working on your pollinator garden. It’s a NYT Bestseller, and I laughed out loud reading it! Using the National Wildlife Federation’s guide to what to plant to have the biggest ecological impact is such an inspiration to me! It’s also a way to understand certifying your space within that group, Homegrown National Park. 😀
I get what you're saying about being happier. I moved from Houston to Denver last week and my mental health has NEVER been better. Best 14 months of my life so far!! ❤
What an adventure this was!! Really hoping your tree is a garden friend🥰
Basil next to tomato, tons of marigolds. Need full sun, at least 6 hours of direct sun. Gardening in TX for 20 years. Butterfly bush, salvia, mist flower, lantana, alyssum, Pentas, and nasturtium for pollinators.
FYI, I have found that most plant identification app struggle with trees. They do best with flowers, fruits, and nuts. If you can't get that than try a picture of a few leaves and their arrangement. You really need something distinctive.
A common set of companion plant around were I live are the three sisters (corn, beans, and squash).
I feel like low-consumption hobbies like gardening also help me to shop less and is sustainable that way! If I didn't have my time-consuming hobbies like gardening I would go shopping every weekend.
Not only are current big agriculture practices unsustainable, but with the impending consequences of climate change, I'm fully anticipating some major struggles for the agriculture industry in the next couple of decades. Things are simply not going to grow as well in all the places they have been grown. So part of my way of preparing for that is trying to see what I can grow myself. (Another part is learning what kinds of wild plants in my area are edible, and that's been pretty fun! It turns out I have at least five different trees in my yard that produce something edible.)
I used to live at a house that had both a pecan tree and black walnut trees. The nut you found on the ground is definitely a pecan! The leaves on pecan and black walnut trees are definitely very similar though so I can definitely see how the app might be unsure.
I know you put this video out last year but check your local county extension service for gardening and other information. It's attached to your state land grant public university. They know your local conditions and have master gardener volunteers to answer home owners questions based on scientific research. Hope your garden was wonderful!
Can you talk about urban planning and new development and sustainability. Ie water reduction, composting, gardens - roof top, balcony, group
One other thing to consider in a sustainable garden is wildlife gardening - things like a small pond (the single best thing you can do for wildlife), log piles, a range of flowers that go right through the year so insects always have something to eat (e.g. bulbs in spring, perennials). Leave spaces "untidy" for insects, birds etc to live in during winter. Fruit trees (have blossoms in spring for insects and fruit in autumn for you and birds), insect hotels, bat houses, bee hotels, bird houses etc.
It's crazy to meet how young people can afford and live in these huge houses! One family houses in this economy 😭 I wish!! And even your own garden, i am trying to start a balcony garden but also needs to be cat friendly
I would do raised beds.
I take an urban sustainable gardening course these year and basically what the instructor told us was that there is a lot of "you are suposed to do that" or "don't mix x and x" and in practice is bs because plants grow anyways (for example the comunal garden where I took the clases was a 'plant everithing everywherex policy, in car tires and another recicled pots in concrete floor, and everything grow. Also is a veeeery shaded place, ir's between buildings and no problem with anything) (they also hade a comunal garden by the side of a rail road and it had bad soil but with time they made it better). So I thing at the end of the day, you should try and see what happens
If it's a black walnut, put in raised beds and you won't have the compromised soil which exists around the walnut.
In my experience it’s super hard to plant carrots next to tomatoes, especially in a hot climate. I would chose a variety of carrot that can handle hot temperatures, usually carrots taste bitter when they are grown in hot temperatures but this is exactly what tomatoes need 😅
This video was so much fun! I started planning my own garden again, thanks for the inspiration 😊😊
What's the book you're reading called, about companion plants?
omg i’ve never even heard of ceanothus! im super interested in figuring that one out. my work has never carried them that i know of. -certified horticulturist but still amateur lol
i've been looking for a laptop to buy my dad and i always make his presents sustainable even if he doesnt know it! i hadn't heard about this laptop until now, thanks shebli!!!
Awe I hope it's not a black walnut tree. Now that I'm thinking of it none of the black walnut trees I know of had much under them.
Turns out a lot goes into planning a garden especially with a slope yard like yours. Hope everything goes according to plan.
never knew pecan is pronounced that way
Haha as soon as you started measuring, I was like oh man, you need some string. Also I find that google lens is better than most plant photo ID apps
I live in an apartment an Im hoping to start a hydroponic garden indoors to grow fresh produce since I buy so much lettuce and I can grow it all year round
I love Madison's tshirt! Someone needs to craft her an antennae headband. Remember when she cut her locks and did the antennae thing? Hehehe what a cute person
Don't know how much they cost, but what about hiring a professional or someone to help?
i feel like if you did a raised bed the trees wouldn't affect the plants. Especially if the raised bed had some kind of base so the plants were using different soil
My back yard probably needs terraces if it wasn't to plant there. I want the front yard to be a small grassy patch to play on but the back is so steep
You trying to find the slope gives me anxiety from my freshman year math class 😂
Wow very cool laptop. I'm into it. I have a pretty old laptop so I love to see a new more sustainable option for when I need to update
The three sisters! Corn, beans, squash/pumpkin
I have a black walnut and they drop what looks like a tennis ball, that is not what you have.
marigolds and tomatoes! Nasturtiums are a great trap crop and are pretty!
My yard is flat and large and lovely, but my soil is awful.
Ooo, are you gonna do the three sisters crops? Beans + corn + squash?
There is also a lot about companion planting on pinterest!
Are you planning to garden in the front yard or is it too close to the street?
Those plant ID apps are generally not great at getting specific species right haha. They're like 50% accurate for getting the family right, maybe. So i would dig more into that, how to identify the specific pecans etc. Good luck!
Definitely recommend the no digging method xx
Black walnut trees are very toxic to a lot of plants; my parents' neighbors have one that grows over part of their yard. I believe you need to plant stuff sensitive to them so that it's not under the canopy of the black walnut, as that's about how far their roots reach
Okay I commented too early in watching haha. The fruit of the black walnut are gigantic green balls, so what was in your yard didn't look like that to me
It will be exciting to see your backyard transformation. If you don't already watch The Fairly Local Family, on RUclips and Instagram, it is a great resource for turning your backyard into a garden. Highly recommend.
Such an important conversation to have regarding e-waste. My laptop is repurposed and it's great to think it's been given a second life. I use mine for university and it's great!
Maybe calling a arborist will help
Flock Finger Lakes Channel is a great channel for sustainable gardening! They just posted a video about companion planting
I don’t know if this will be useful to your garden, but I’m sure you will find it interesting. I have followed Loren for years and he is doing incredible things for the planet with his wellness center in Costa Rica and his Las Cascadas intentional community.
The shell you picked up looks like a pecan shell to me. Walnuts look different!
We have both!!
Lavender and hyssop will help keep most pests away. Also you can harvest the lavender to make sachets to keep moths out of closets and drawers.
The trees look like pecans to me.
Maybe high gardens?
Pecan leaves tend to be a darker green on the upper side and a pale green on the underside. Walnut leaflets will be covered in tiny hairs on the underside. Walnut leaves tend to be a much darker green than pecans.