Fantastic. I couldn’t count how many people talk about how The Feynman Technique is the ultimate learning method and period. I’m in shock. BUT the only thing I know is that teaching is a great way to learn. I use it all the tall, especially when I’m having trouble in understanding the topic. Hehehe
I hear you but I think you might be being a little hard on this. It seems like you agree with most aspects of it but just quibble with a couple? I may need to listen to this at a slower speed though. :-) Hey what do you think of chat GPT and it's use as a sort of education partner? You're learning some concepts and you can have a conversation with it and sort of hash it out and make sure that you completely understand it and far away the edges?
What I learned is that if you want to be a famous self improvement guru just make a random "technique" or "strategy" and name it after a famous person that doesn't even have any relationship with that "technique" you made, but not too unrelated so we don't clickbate. It will be viral by no time. I will try. So the technique is the Michael Jackson techniques which is basically pull your nose upward so it becomes smaller.
Wait another technique that might actually be useful is the Newton technique which basically ask questions and shove a needle into your eyes. Or sit by a tree and wait for an apple to fall down. But jokes a side just ask questions and go and find the answer.
This nicely explained and based on solid rationale and research video encouraged me to think more critically. Love your videos on Obsidian and note-taking also. Thank you for quality content!
Dialogical learning has its well-known origin in Socrates, with his maieutic method, which means the birth of truth through dialogue. The lesson that the sender of the message must observe the characteristics and limits of his audience, is from Aristotle in the work Rhetoric.
True, and a dialogue will have varying direction from the perceptions of each agent involved so the result will vary on interpretation. Therefore, it is a discussion of problems rather than a transfer of answers.
Having to choose between the videolessons of a professor who explains very well and in depth and his book where the concepts are the same, which one is better to choose? I prefer video lessons but they tend to make me passive in the learning process
A change in medium alters the way information is perceived and therefore learned. Each individual will have preferences but effectiveness will depend on the desired outcome of learning 😁
Great points - at the moment i tinker around with an approach that i would call the Feynmans-child technique. The lecture notes of my professor are my feynman (its the level of knowledge and speed that i should understand) and each line/passage in the notes is actually an answer to a question, not just a free speech statement. So its more about finding the right question where the answer makes sense and then remember the questions. Hopefully, after i apply the right questions the answer will makes sense and have the correct spot in my brain.
looking at the Feynman technique from a semantic perspective, the second step does seem rather odd. If you keep asking questions without any agreed upon framework your inquiry into a subject kinda becomes a infinite regress of socratic questioning. Though practically if you do have some reasonable lower limit to this simplification, some bare agreed upon terms or framework, that may indeed aid your understanding. Thanks for the video! I have gained a new perspective on the technique.
Though I imagine that despite the reduction, there is bound to be some Expertise reversal effect based on the differences in the depths of understanding, and so it might even be detrimental if this technique is used across too large a difference.
The implications are widespread and with varying philosophies of practice towards education they can positive or negative for different individuals. Sharing a perspective of critique was the goal of the video to give people some scope to explore more themselves 😁 If only learning was as simple as 1 2 3...
First view shared on RUclips 😁 The word understanding makes that questions very difficult to answer. Shallow or deep understanding will come from different places. I ground my philosophy of practice in ecological psychology, the 4E's of cognition, dynamical systems theory. Read through my notes for more context 😉
aright then, what the other best way of studying ? also is it the same of writing down what you just learned in your own though ? recently I'm learning like this, while watching or listening or reading to the material I'll write down just a questions or a key for this information ( To remember all things that I read and forget something by mistake ) then I'll take each question, and I'll answer it in my own thoughts in the context of my ideas, what this called ? and what the better " Proven " way to learn and memorize and understand
You sound like your describing part of natural learning. Asking questions and following your curiosity. 'proven' learning science doesn't exist. There is evidence to support various forms in multiple contexts. So the scientific answer is, it depends. My philosophy is to use principles from Ecological psychology. Create an environment, using constraints and affordances to help me attune my focus on the skill I want to develop.
@@DannyHatcherTech any advices will be appreciated, I'm looking for a way to learn by my self 1 - I love to see the over view of the knowledge that I have or all the information that I ever encountered ( using obsidian ) 2 - I have to explain things again in my own thoughts to make sure that really I understand the material I just learned 3 - > Create the environment to learn by yourself what type of learn or steps I could do to achieve this ? my end goal to have a better understanding and long term memorization for the information that I have
@@0xDseven in short, work with the information you want to remeber, ideally through projects requiring the information in that environment. Articles about your learning. Talking with others about depth of understanding. Teacher those that have questions.
@@DannyHatcherTech it feels silly for me to suggest something while I still haven’t really explored your backlog. These look great thanks. By they way during this video I subconsciously just expected to see half a million views on this. You radiate quality man good stuff.
@@Wingedmagician Thanks for being honest and sharing your thoughts. Even if I have covered something there is almost always a different perspective to take 😁
What about it? Yes, you are more likely to remember something if you think of it or recall it. The retrieval process is part of learning. That is part of a conversation as you need to think of something to say which is dialogic learning.
@@DannyHatcherTech if generation and the elaboration of the generation process can improve learning, does it not aid the concept of the Feynman technique? Generation effect is the "phenomenon where information is better remembered if it is generated from one's own mind rather than simply read". Thusly, by generating an idea through explanation to someone or something, it increases overall understanding of the given information. Moreover, I found numerous studies on the protégé effect, which is the phenomenon associated with the workings of the Feynman technique. I don't think most researchers would use the informal "Feynman technique" so they might've used protégé effect instead, which I find to be a frequent recurrence when reading a bit about cognitive psychology.
@@kristoffer2250 Learning through teaching is a way of supporting learning with plenty of research in support, that was mentioned in the video but maybe was not made clear enough. The feynam technique talks about explanation but using language constraints (limited lingo and jargon) and using constraints in depth of understanding (talking to 5 year old) which goes against the suggested techniques in research. Therefore the contrainsts the feynamn technique puts on learners, is more likely going to make things harder when looking to get deeper understanding, or looking to practice reflection on a topic or area.
I like the idea of explaining a concept to a: - Person with less knowledge than you - Person with ~same knowledge than you - Person with more knowledge than you Instead of just think about "teach to children" (Although I think this has a lot of benefits, "why?")
Learning is a multi-faceted topic and I would love to hear your thoughts on this technique.
Danny. You outdid yourself. I knew that these videos were going to be great. Awesome stuff my guy!
Thanks! Might be getting the views but was a joy to research and make.
Fantastic. I couldn’t count how many people talk about how The Feynman Technique is the ultimate learning method and period. I’m in shock. BUT the only thing I know is that teaching is a great way to learn. I use it all the tall, especially when I’m having trouble in understanding the topic. Hehehe
Yeah, it has been a bug bare of mine for a while. It is a great marketing tool for Learning through teaching but the technique itself isn't special.
@@DannyHatcherTech isn’t special and it’s not quite what Feynman said! Very interesting. Great video!
I hear you but I think you might be being a little hard on this. It seems like you agree with most aspects of it but just quibble with a couple? I may need to listen to this at a slower speed though. :-)
Hey what do you think of chat GPT and it's use as a sort of education partner? You're learning some concepts and you can have a conversation with it and sort of hash it out and make sure that you completely understand it and far away the edges?
What I learned is that if you want to be a famous self improvement guru just make a random "technique" or "strategy" and name it after a famous person that doesn't even have any relationship with that "technique" you made, but not too unrelated so we don't clickbate. It will be viral by no time.
I will try.
So the technique is the Michael Jackson techniques which is basically pull your nose upward so it becomes smaller.
Wait another technique that might actually be useful is the Newton technique which basically ask questions and shove a needle into your eyes. Or sit by a tree and wait for an apple to fall down. But jokes a side just ask questions and go and find the answer.
Haha love your take! They also wrote a boke about it, (was promoted on the screen grab I got from the blog).
I think the book sells well too.
This nicely explained and based on solid rationale and research video encouraged me to think more critically. Love your videos on Obsidian and note-taking also. Thank you for quality content!
Glad I could get you thinking 😁
More research based videos coming soon.
@@DannyHatcherTech Can’t wait to check it out!
Dialogical learning has its well-known origin in Socrates, with his maieutic method, which means the birth of truth through dialogue.
The lesson that the sender of the message must observe the characteristics and limits of his audience, is from Aristotle in the work Rhetoric.
True, and a dialogue will have varying direction from the perceptions of each agent involved so the result will vary on interpretation.
Therefore, it is a discussion of problems rather than a transfer of answers.
Having to choose between the videolessons of a professor who explains very well and in depth and his book where the concepts are the same, which one is better to choose? I prefer video lessons but they tend to make me passive in the learning process
A change in medium alters the way information is perceived and therefore learned. Each individual will have preferences but effectiveness will depend on the desired outcome of learning 😁
Great points - at the moment i tinker around with an approach that i would call the Feynmans-child technique.
The lecture notes of my professor are my feynman (its the level of knowledge and speed that i should understand) and each line/passage in the notes is actually an answer to a question, not just a free speech statement. So its more about finding the right question where the answer makes sense and then remember the questions. Hopefully, after i apply the right questions the answer will makes sense and have the correct spot in my brain.
I love that Danny speaks in X2 velocity
Haha, not everyone likes my speed so I try and slow down for videos 😅
This is beyond amazing 🌟🌟🌟 thank you for cutting the clutter around this for us 🌻🙌🏻
Happy to share 😁
looking at the Feynman technique from a semantic perspective, the second step does seem rather odd. If you keep asking questions without any agreed upon framework your inquiry into a subject kinda becomes a infinite regress of socratic questioning. Though practically if you do have some reasonable lower limit to this simplification, some bare agreed upon terms or framework, that may indeed aid your understanding.
Thanks for the video! I have gained a new perspective on the technique.
Though I imagine that despite the reduction, there is bound to be some Expertise reversal effect based on the differences in the depths of understanding, and so it might even be detrimental if this technique is used across too large a difference.
The implications are widespread and with varying philosophies of practice towards education they can positive or negative for different individuals.
Sharing a perspective of critique was the goal of the video to give people some scope to explore more themselves 😁
If only learning was as simple as 1 2 3...
Feynman technique...or Feynman conspiracy?!
aha very true!
Very interesting, first contrasting view on this subject.
Question? What is your approach to understanding?
Thanks
First view shared on RUclips 😁
The word understanding makes that questions very difficult to answer. Shallow or deep understanding will come from different places.
I ground my philosophy of practice in ecological psychology, the 4E's of cognition, dynamical systems theory. Read through my notes for more context 😉
@@DannyHatcherTech Thank you! Only making a little reasearch about this topics opened my mind for concepts super interesants!
aright then, what the other best way of studying ?
also is it the same of writing down what you just learned in your own though ?
recently I'm learning like this, while watching or listening or reading to the material I'll write down just a questions or a key for this information ( To remember all things that I read and forget something by mistake )
then I'll take each question, and I'll answer it in my own thoughts in the context of my ideas, what this called ?
and what the better " Proven " way to learn and memorize and understand
You sound like your describing part of natural learning. Asking questions and following your curiosity.
'proven' learning science doesn't exist. There is evidence to support various forms in multiple contexts. So the scientific answer is, it depends.
My philosophy is to use principles from Ecological psychology. Create an environment, using constraints and affordances to help me attune my focus on the skill I want to develop.
@@DannyHatcherTech any advices will be appreciated, I'm looking for a way to learn by my self
1 - I love to see the over view of the knowledge that I have or all the information that I ever encountered ( using obsidian )
2 - I have to explain things again in my own thoughts to make sure that really I understand the material I just learned
3 - > Create the environment to learn by yourself
what type of learn or steps I could do to achieve this ?
my end goal to have a better understanding and long term memorization for the information that I have
@@0xDseven in short, work with the information you want to remeber, ideally through projects requiring the information in that environment.
Articles about your learning.
Talking with others about depth of understanding.
Teacher those that have questions.
Wow so glad I subscribed
Always happy to share. Any other topic you think would be interesting?
@@DannyHatcherTech it feels silly for me to suggest something while I still haven’t really explored your backlog. These look great thanks. By they way during this video I subconsciously just expected to see half a million views on this. You radiate quality man good stuff.
@@Wingedmagician Thanks for being honest and sharing your thoughts. Even if I have covered something there is almost always a different perspective to take 😁
What about the Generation Effect?
What about it?
Yes, you are more likely to remember something if you think of it or recall it. The retrieval process is part of learning. That is part of a conversation as you need to think of something to say which is dialogic learning.
@@DannyHatcherTech
if generation and the elaboration of the generation process can improve learning, does it not aid the concept of the Feynman technique? Generation effect is the "phenomenon where information is better remembered if it is generated from one's own mind rather than simply read". Thusly, by generating an idea through explanation to someone or something, it increases overall understanding of the given information.
Moreover, I found numerous studies on the protégé effect, which is the phenomenon associated with the workings of the Feynman technique. I don't think most researchers would use the informal "Feynman technique" so they might've used protégé effect instead, which I find to be a frequent recurrence when reading a bit about cognitive psychology.
@@kristoffer2250 Learning through teaching is a way of supporting learning with plenty of research in support, that was mentioned in the video but maybe was not made clear enough.
The feynam technique talks about explanation but using language constraints (limited lingo and jargon) and using constraints in depth of understanding (talking to 5 year old) which goes against the suggested techniques in research.
Therefore the contrainsts the feynamn technique puts on learners, is more likely going to make things harder when looking to get deeper understanding, or looking to practice reflection on a topic or area.
I like the idea of explaining a concept to a:
- Person with less knowledge than you
- Person with ~same knowledge than you
- Person with more knowledge than you
Instead of just think about "teach to children" (Although I think this has a lot of benefits, "why?")
Yeah, learning through teaching is really useful so why it has been constrain like this for the tec
hnique I am not sure.
@@DannyHatcherTech what if you don't have someone to teach at the moment, how you'll teach it to your self or do that with yourself
@@0xDseven create the environment to learn for yourself.
quite a long-winded way of saying Feynman was a bullshitter.
No.
Feynman had nothing to do with the 'technique'.
The online 'advisors' making claims using his name.