I have been using this lens for about 9 months with the Canon R5 and I LOVE it!! Heavy as hellllll but worth it! So nice to not have to constantly be thinking in the back of my mind that I need to switch lenses. Absolutely so fast too just like you said.
I have the RF 50mm and 85mm, plus a gorgeous Tamron 35mm f/1.4. Those are magical lenses, but it bugs me to keep switching lenses when working with a model and trying different shots out. I'm super tempted to get the 28-70 f/2 to give me some flexibility to change focal lengths immediately without having to pause to swap lenses. I'm torn. It's not like it takes *that* long to switch lenses, but still, this one lens might be able to handle most of the shooting situations I find myself in.
For portraits I use both the Canon 50 f1.2 and the 85 f1.2. I don’t have a problem swapping back and forth between the two and love the bokeh from each of these lenses. I primarily shoot environmental and location portraiture so using my feet to zoom is not usually a problem but If I was a studio portrait photographer I’m sure I would appreciate and prefer the 28-70 f2 zoom.
As a concert photographer the RF28-70 f2 is on my R5 for 85% of the time. Capture light just a bit more than a 2.8 lens. Also... an R5+battery grip+RF28-70 saves you a trip to the gym if you're using it on a (semi) daily base for a couple of hours
I'm still in love with my 5D Mk IV and either my EF 85 f1.4 (used to have the f1.2 but didn't like it) or my EF 24-70 f2.8 (happy spot is in the 44-55mm range) for portraits. For portraits and headshots I rarely shoot below f4-ish and am usually up around f8-f11 for fashion shoots.
I loved my ef 85 1.4! I never liked the ef 85 1.2 because it was so slow to focus and hard to get a sharp image at 1.2. but the rf 85 is tack sharp at 1.2. and both the 85 and 28-70 focus faster. I still love my ef glass but I don't used them much anymore.
Agree, very versatile especially out in the field, love the range. In the studio, I do agree, the 85mm is my favorite. Love the F2 and the lovely bokeh!
Just yesterday I bought the 28-70 f/2...impressive lens. Sharp edge to edge already at f/2, lovely bokeh. It will keep company with my RF 50 1.2 and RF 85 1.2. I use them on R3 and R5. Greetings from Italy.
Hi, Is that 28-70 AF tracking (AF servo) as fast as 24-70? I shoot sport and want to upgrade to 28-70 but all it advantages will gone if it af slower than 24-70 in AF servo mode.
I went with the 24-70 because I value IS over the extra stops of aperture. The weight wasn’t even an issue because, at weddings, I use a BlackRapid double strap. Also, the extra 4mm on the wide end sometimes end up saving you in a pinch. Having said that: you do have a point.
Just to correct you on that - the IS + IBIS on the 24mm is only equal to the IBIS on 28mm. The stabilization offered by both lenses and a body with IBIS is roughly equal, with the 28mm having a wider aperture.
I agree, I'd rather buy a bit high and only have to buy once! So I bought the 28-70, but rented 85mm f/1.2 for some college senior portrait sessions and all I can say is duzzam! It looks great and the 28-70 almost felt dark in comparison. But the flexibility of the 28-70 was amazing to get the tower in frame and such working around a lot of other peeps at the time.
Cool video as always Sal.. I'm a Nikon guy and my favourite lens is my 85 f1.4.. but if im shooting in my kitchen 'studio' which isnt exactly big i go to my 24-70 f/2.8 so i can swop between portrait to full length
Oh i am definitely envious of the canon 28-70 f2. I wish Sony would have something like this. I fellow photographer has one and boy does it produce some beautiful images.
@@SalCincotta1 I like that we have the third-party companies that we can choose their lenses. Because I own a lot of sigma lenses. But I do wish Sony would come out with a 200 mm F2, maybe a 300 mm F2.8, 24-70 f2. I don’t mind big bulky lenses, if you’ve ever tried the Sigma 105 mm F1.4 that is definitely a choddy lens. But yeah Canon does have a nice selection of high-end lenses.
As an owner of this lens it sucks as a portrait lens. It's not really a 28-70 it's more like a 28-65. It doesn't have that reach to be a good portrait lens unless you're shooting environmental portraits. Its an amazing lens and very sharp but it's kind of in this place where it's not good enough to out preform prims. 35 f1.4, 50 f1.2 and 85 f1.2 will give you much better images than the 28-70. The 28-70 gives you better versatility for event shooting but the trade off is worse low light performance.
As a Nikon user we have a 24-120mm f4 lens that is extremely sharp at f4 (which is 1stop from 2.8 lenses in that mm range) Most Fashion n Portrait Photogs have found that if they move the model closer to the lens and further from the background that the out of focus is similar to the faster (more expensive, heavier, and shorter focal length lenses in the 70mm range) AND!!!! 70mm is too short for Portrait and Fashion :) :) :) Really enjoy Your Vids :) :) :)
hmm... i cant speak to which focuses faster... my guess... and its a guess is that the 24-70 might focus a little faster since its a smaller lens. BUT that being said - ive never had issues with the 28-70 focusing speed. for me the speed of the aperture is more important with the 28-70 being f2. its a gorgeous lens!! hth
🤣... "traveling light" with a 28-70 3.1 lbs lens. IHMO, I prefer the 24-70 RF - it's 2 lbs, stabilized, and far better for environmental portraits (plus less expensive).
right now I owned this lens and is really good, is sharp and great quality, I am not a professional but I love photography, sometimes I shoot weddings and other gigs, my question is for pure portraits do you think, the 85 1.2 will be a better option? thinking to buy that lens too jus for headshots. I know do you have that lens too, what is your recommendation?
First, you have to buy the camera that the lens is for so not much good if you are still using the Canon 1DX or the 5D Mk IV so not as cost-effective as just buying the lens
I love this lens. I use it along with my rf 85 1.2, which renders so beautiful. How was does the rf28-70mm compare to 50mm 1.2? I never got it because I don't think I'll ever use it together with the 28-70mm. It seems like a great 1 lens walk around lens. I would love to hear the comparison of the 2 lenses, 50 vs 28-70mm. I love your channel and your mini series challenge show. Great stuff.
primes - imo - are always sharper - but... that being said, you are limited in the focal length... you could move back and forth, but in a tight room - like weddings, etc - you cant always move... thats why i like having this lens.
@@SalCincotta1 before getting the 28-70mm, I used to use sigma ef 28mm 1.4 and 40mm 1.4 for the morning getting ready prep. Both are amazing and extremely sharp lenses. Then i would change it to 40mm and 85mm. I always felt 40mm was a better fit than the 50mm in most hotel rooms. Sometimes in a small hotel, I will use rf 15-35mm. I thought maybe it might work well with the rf 50mm 1.2. Although using f2 instead of f1.4 doesn't bother me at all, I prefer avoiding f2.8 unless it's 70-200mm. Thanks for replying back, Sal.
I own this lens and I'm not impressed with it at all. For some reason I find myself missing the extra 4mm of the 24-70 f/2.8. I've had it for about 6 months now and can't get comfortable with it at all. I'm giving it a few more months and a few more weddings to see if my feeling gets better otherwise I'll trade it for a RF f/2.8. I'm usually pretty good about adapting to changes, but can't shake the feeling I have with this lens. But I agree with you. It's a fast lens and very very sharp!
@@SalCincotta1 The lens is only as good as the person behind it. I would much rather be limited by my talents than equipment. This lens gives a person zero excuses. I find it very useful and wish I had gotten mine earlier. Nice to have some flexibility.
@@SalCincotta1 it's heavy and bulky. There is no convenience about. It can't be used for headshots. It could probably replace a 35mm or 50mm for portraits. But it's too damn heavy. It's sounds good on paper. But not really useful in practice. It doesn't have 24mm or f1.4 To justify its weight it has to be the best. Would you rather change lenses a couple of times during a shoot or get tired from shooting because the lens is heavy ?
This lens saves me so much time in the studio. Absolute beast in every sense of the word.
100!
If in studio the 24-105 is going to be better.....
@@Lucy-dk5cz yes and no. Depends on what the situation calls for right?
@@Lucy-dk5cz Can't get f/2 if you want really shallow DOF though.
@@stew_redman if shooting studio, why are you at F2.... go back to that content place and try shoot some strobes at F2 to see what happens
I have been using this lens for about 9 months with the Canon R5 and I LOVE it!! Heavy as hellllll but worth it! So nice to not have to constantly be thinking in the back of my mind that I need to switch lenses. Absolutely so fast too just like you said.
It really is! And like you said... its a beast for sure, prob one o the heaviest lenses i own, but the results are worth it!
@@SalCincotta1 for sure the heaviest lens I own. Great to use as a weight for work outs when traveling with it. HA!
I have the RF 50mm and 85mm, plus a gorgeous Tamron 35mm f/1.4. Those are magical lenses, but it bugs me to keep switching lenses when working with a model and trying different shots out. I'm super tempted to get the 28-70 f/2 to give me some flexibility to change focal lengths immediately without having to pause to swap lenses. I'm torn. It's not like it takes *that* long to switch lenses, but still, this one lens might be able to handle most of the shooting situations I find myself in.
For portraits I use both the Canon 50 f1.2 and the 85 f1.2. I don’t have a problem swapping back and forth between the two and love the bokeh from each of these lenses. I primarily shoot environmental and location portraiture so using my feet to zoom is not usually a problem but If I was a studio portrait photographer I’m sure I would appreciate and prefer the 28-70 f2 zoom.
i have he other two lenses as well... if you shoot environmental stuff... you will love the 28-70. :)
I don't like it for studio cause it's too short for the most part. I would prefer something like the new tamrom 35-150
As a concert photographer the RF28-70 f2 is on my R5 for 85% of the time. Capture light just a bit more than a 2.8 lens. Also... an R5+battery grip+RF28-70 saves you a trip to the gym if you're using it on a (semi) daily base for a couple of hours
F2 is a full stop over f2.8 so that's twice the light
Excellently put. I own the 2870, RF 85 1.2 and both are superb lenses with the 28-70 having more versatility.
I personally prefer the RF 24-70mm 2.8L better on my wrists. My favorite combo is that and the RF 50mm 1.2L.
My man is out here grinding out the content! Keep up the awesome work!!
Always!
I'm still in love with my 5D Mk IV and either my EF 85 f1.4 (used to have the f1.2 but didn't like it) or my EF 24-70 f2.8 (happy spot is in the 44-55mm range) for portraits. For portraits and headshots I rarely shoot below f4-ish and am usually up around f8-f11 for fashion shoots.
I loved my ef 85 1.4! I never liked the ef 85 1.2 because it was so slow to focus and hard to get a sharp image at 1.2. but the rf 85 is tack sharp at 1.2. and both the 85 and 28-70 focus faster. I still love my ef glass but I don't used them much anymore.
Agree, very versatile especially out in the field, love the range. In the studio, I do agree, the 85mm is my favorite. Love the F2 and the lovely bokeh!
Right on!
Great review Sal! Thank you.
Just yesterday I bought the 28-70 f/2...impressive lens. Sharp edge to edge already at f/2, lovely bokeh. It will keep company with my RF 50 1.2 and RF 85 1.2. I use them on R3 and R5.
Greetings from Italy.
Hi, Is that 28-70 AF tracking (AF servo) as fast as 24-70? I shoot sport and want to upgrade to 28-70 but all it advantages will gone if it af slower than 24-70 in AF servo mode.
I went with the 24-70 because I value IS over the extra stops of aperture. The weight wasn’t even an issue because, at weddings, I use a BlackRapid double strap. Also, the extra 4mm on the wide end sometimes end up saving you in a pinch. Having said that: you do have a point.
Just to correct you on that - the IS + IBIS on the 24mm is only equal to the IBIS on 28mm. The stabilization offered by both lenses and a body with IBIS is roughly equal, with the 28mm having a wider aperture.
I agree, I'd rather buy a bit high and only have to buy once! So I bought the 28-70, but rented 85mm f/1.2 for some college senior portrait sessions and all I can say is duzzam! It looks great and the 28-70 almost felt dark in comparison. But the flexibility of the 28-70 was amazing to get the tower in frame and such working around a lot of other peeps at the time.
trying to decide on the 28-70 or to replace my 85
Its the best for when zooming is needed. But my go portrait lens is still the RF 85f1.2 nothing is better then that in my opinion.
85 is a solid lens no doubt.
Love this lens and love your review on it 👏
Cool video as always Sal.. I'm a Nikon guy and my favourite lens is my 85 f1.4.. but if im shooting in my kitchen 'studio' which isnt exactly big i go to my 24-70 f/2.8 so i can swop between portrait to full length
70-200 is my favorite...I will say though, I am surprising enjoying the Nikon 28-75 lately.
Oh i am definitely envious of the canon 28-70 f2. I wish Sony would have something like this. I fellow photographer has one and boy does it produce some beautiful images.
yeah thats my only problem with sony... glass is not as robust and deep as the canon glass.
@@SalCincotta1 I like that we have the third-party companies that we can choose their lenses. Because I own a lot of sigma lenses. But I do wish Sony would come out with a 200 mm F2, maybe a 300 mm F2.8, 24-70 f2. I don’t mind big bulky lenses, if you’ve ever tried the Sigma 105 mm F1.4 that is definitely a choddy lens. But yeah Canon does have a nice selection of high-end lenses.
Poderia ter mostrado mais fotos com essa lente. 😕
just got mine. love it. super versatile.
It really is!
ok 6:20 is compelling evidence -- answering your video's title with a resounding yes. good job sir.
As an owner of this lens it sucks as a portrait lens. It's not really a 28-70 it's more like a 28-65. It doesn't have that reach to be a good portrait lens unless you're shooting environmental portraits. Its an amazing lens and very sharp but it's kind of in this place where it's not good enough to out preform prims. 35 f1.4, 50 f1.2 and 85 f1.2 will give you much better images than the 28-70. The 28-70 gives you better versatility for event shooting but the trade off is worse low light performance.
As a Nikon user we have a 24-120mm f4 lens that is extremely sharp at f4 (which is 1stop from 2.8 lenses in that mm range) Most Fashion n Portrait Photogs have found that if they move the model closer to the lens and further from the background that the out of focus is similar to the faster (more expensive, heavier, and shorter focal length lenses in the 70mm range) AND!!!! 70mm is too short for Portrait and Fashion :) :) :) Really enjoy Your Vids :) :) :)
Badass..you convinced me :)
Hi Sal like you page awesome work man.Can yours the RF 28-70 in fashion runway events speed wise, and the occasional low lighting situations?
Hello! I'm choosing between rf 24-70 and rf 28-70, can you tell which one is better in focus tracking and has faster focus?
hmm... i cant speak to which focuses faster... my guess... and its a guess is that the 24-70 might focus a little faster since its a smaller lens. BUT that being said - ive never had issues with the 28-70 focusing speed. for me the speed of the aperture is more important with the 28-70 being f2. its a gorgeous lens!! hth
I think the best portrait lens is the tamron 35-150 f2-2.8
🤣... "traveling light" with a 28-70 3.1 lbs lens. IHMO, I prefer the 24-70 RF - it's 2 lbs, stabilized, and far better for environmental portraits (plus less expensive).
right now I owned this lens and is really good, is sharp and great quality, I am not a professional but I love photography, sometimes I shoot weddings and other gigs, my question is for pure portraits do you think, the 85 1.2 will be a better option? thinking to buy that lens too jus for headshots. I know do you have that lens too, what is your recommendation?
you will NOT REGRET the 85 1.2... check out my channel - did a review on it.
First, you have to buy the camera that the lens is for so not much good if you are still using the Canon 1DX or the 5D Mk IV so not as cost-effective as just buying the lens
i mean... isnt that true of any lens? sorta a "duh" comment no?
I love this lens. I use it along with my rf 85 1.2, which renders so beautiful. How was does the rf28-70mm compare to 50mm 1.2? I never got it because I don't think I'll ever use it together with the 28-70mm. It seems like a great 1 lens walk around lens. I would love to hear the comparison of the 2 lenses, 50 vs 28-70mm. I love your channel and your mini series challenge show. Great stuff.
primes - imo - are always sharper - but... that being said, you are limited in the focal length... you could move back and forth, but in a tight room - like weddings, etc - you cant always move... thats why i like having this lens.
@@SalCincotta1 before getting the 28-70mm, I used to use sigma ef 28mm 1.4 and 40mm 1.4 for the morning getting ready prep. Both are amazing and extremely sharp lenses. Then i would change it to 40mm and 85mm. I always felt 40mm was a better fit than the 50mm in most hotel rooms. Sometimes in a small hotel, I will use rf 15-35mm. I thought maybe it might work well with the rf 50mm 1.2. Although using f2 instead of f1.4 doesn't bother me at all, I prefer avoiding f2.8 unless it's 70-200mm. Thanks for replying back, Sal.
I wish Nikon would produce this lens
I own this lens and I'm not impressed with it at all. For some reason I find myself missing the extra 4mm of the 24-70 f/2.8. I've had it for about 6 months now and can't get comfortable with it at all. I'm giving it a few more months and a few more weddings to see if my feeling gets better otherwise I'll trade it for a RF f/2.8. I'm usually pretty good about adapting to changes, but can't shake the feeling I have with this lens. But I agree with you. It's a fast lens and very very sharp!
I Disagree. This lens is useless. Better to an 85 for portraits and 24-70 for versatility.
"useless"... whoa. big talk there cool buddy dude... i wouldnt call it useless. I have it - make some amazing images with it. i find it quite useful.
@@SalCincotta1 The lens is only as good as the person behind it. I would much rather be limited by my talents than equipment. This lens gives a person zero excuses. I find it very useful and wish I had gotten mine earlier. Nice to have some flexibility.
@@SalCincotta1 it's heavy and bulky. There is no convenience about. It can't be used for headshots. It could probably replace a 35mm or 50mm for portraits. But it's too damn heavy. It's sounds good on paper. But not really useful in practice. It doesn't have 24mm or f1.4 To justify its weight it has to be the best. Would you rather change lenses a couple of times during a shoot or get tired from shooting because the lens is heavy ?
@@coolbuddydude1 well I can’t disagree w the weight. That’s 100% true. :)
@@coolbuddydude1 maybe you are too freaking weak man. Don't you go to gym ?