"She has an implant in her back, I can track it from the control room." "Why not just call the control room and ask them to track it right now?" "Oh, good idea!" *dials and calls* "We have an asset out of containment!" *checks screen* "Nah she's still in the pen." Thank you HISHE
That's what some t.rex siblings do but not velociraptors because their pack hunter's when they hunt you wouldn't even know that the other two raptors are there.
Your looking at it from a human stand point there could have been dozens of reasons for her attacking her sibling mother birds push chicks out of the nest if it looks like it was disturbed and rodents eat there young if their scent changes
@seanbraley2772 animals may also kill their young if the babies are sick or in danger of starving to death. In the case of the two Indominouses, it's possible one of them was experiencing complications from having a genetic structure that might as well have been blocks from 20 different Lego sets. The weaker one may not have been thriving and it's possible their nutritional needs weren't being met due to their complex nature. So to keep her from suffering, the stronger Irex would have killed her.
Animals raised in isolation are not always the most functional. That line got me thinking: if they had shown the indominus more kindness, maybe it would not have turned out to be the villian?
@@OmegaPictures318 social interaction would not likely have been entirely feasible given her sheer size and how fast she grew. She had a sibling and she ate it. One way or another, she’d have been a dangerous asset.
It’s not about being a villain. It’s about social skills. You see it everywhere: animals learn through rough-and-tumble play. Ever wondered why? Because they can assess the acceptable limits of physical interaction. It’s a mutual social negotiation. Growing up in isolation, sets you back years on this matter among your peers. Introvert kids, raised alone, with no siblings and little to no friends, with over protective parents are the worst. Chances are they increase their probability of turning into bullies, or become so weak they’re really useless and no wonder become easy targets. It doesn’t apply for all but it’s a very predictable pattern.
@El Chivato What was he supposed to do? Stand there and politely be eaten? Besides, although he opened the door, Owen led Indominus to it. If we blame the fat supervisor we also have to blame Owen.
@@williamhiers1280 Well rather have them die than thousands of people who died because that guy opened the huge gate that Indominus clearly could get threw, there are smaller doors just for humans in the cage that he could have went threw not the huge gate that gave it a chance to escape. Even if Owen wouldn't have ran to the already opened gate do you really think Indominus would be dumb enough to not notice the gate be opened and not take the chance to escape?
@@williamhiers1280 But he still shouldn't have opened the gate in the first place, open such a huge gate just so one person could get out? there literally were doors that were meant just for humans in there
I find it really good of how Owen asked the right sort of questions. It would almost be the same sort of questions when seeing a dangerous stallion and their environment, the relationship with the owner, etc. this movie is really good. Thanks for uploading. ❤️❤️❤️
How good is it really? I mean how long was this other guy sitting in that room? If a animal that big managed to climb over the walls, he should have noticed it i doubt that would have been that stealthy. Also in an earlier scene there where construction workers infront of the cage. If the the Indominous Rex would have escaped it should already been reported. All three characters where stupid in the respons with maybe a little excuse for Owen because he probably didn´t knew that earler that day workers where there. The movie showed perfectly the arrogance and hubris of humanity and to be honest was the most accurate and believable part in it.
@@Phoenixfede1989 very true about the workers being stupid in panicking to assume she got out of there without being noticed especially the size of the dinosaur. They should have tracked the dinosaur before thinking it escaped. As for Owen, he didn’t have much to go on aside from what answers he got of the questions he asked. If he knew what size it was from the start and saw it for himself before this took place, he would have known it was still in there. The reason why I like the questions he asked is because he wanted to know the lifestyle the dinosaur had from the start to where it is now. It gives him the mindset the animal possibly has. The second he saw how the crane gave the food into the large paddock and being isolated, he knew right away it would be a danger to others since it had no idea what it was or the dinosaur itself not knowing its level of strength and focus until it got bold enough to test the theory which lead to what happened. Owen’s questions should often be the same questions people should ask for horses and dogs.
@@TheRealDeal92 I agree on Owen a 100% with you. He is the absolut best part on this movie besides Rexie´s return. The stupidity with the Indominous Rex didn´t startet with the workers at the moment of the outbreak, but with Dr Wu. Would he have told Clair "Hey look, this new animal could have camoflage abilities and maybe it can regulate her own bodytemperatur so make sure you go the extra mile in terms of security" then all that wouldn´t be happen. Its mostly this classification of what the Indominous was mad from besides the T Rex, that led to the big mistakes at the outbreak.
@@TheRealDeal92It's true, however, the size of an enclosure can not always tell you the size of the animal. For example some small snakes get big cages.
Let me gets this straight, they honestly and sincerely thought a 20ft tall, 50ft long, 6 ton dinosaur clawed it's way over a 50ft wall in broad daylight with dozens of workers around....and nobody saw anything?
And somehow did so without leave a single actual deep gouge in the wall. Like, barely scraping the surface of it? There’s no possible way that gets it enough leverage to get over it.
Did you watch the movie? It didn’t. It put the claw marks there to trick the people into thinking it had escaped. They didn’t know it was capable of altering its body temperature either.
The key ingredient of every Jurassic Park movie is that all humans in the film are sub-80 IQ and don't take even the most basic precautions towards self-preservation.
Here's the irony of this movie. When I first saw the trailer I HATED Owen's character because I thought "WHY the hell is he training RAPTORS and making them tame? And then I see the movie and he is the ONLY one on this island that actually has enough sense to know they are all DAMN fools to be playing God and creating this new dinosaur that none of them know how to control. HE actually RESPECTS the power they have been given....he has a relationship with Blue and her sisters, yes, but he knows who has the power in that relationship and its not really him. They created the Indominous because she was bigger and had "more teeth" as Henry Wu says, and they wanted a flashy new dinosaur to get people interested in the park again, but they never stopped to consider WHAT ELSE she could do. Like camouflage.....like lower her temperature....like use the Raptor intelligence to trick them into thinking she wasn't in her pen. lol I can't wait to see what Jeff Goldblum says about their new venture..lol
Even “raptor smart” isn’t that smart. How the hell did Indominus figure out the tech they were using to track it? That’s WAY smarter than raptors. Hell, a PERSON who was in that position, even if a genius, wouldn’t know they were being tracked through IR, because they didn’t have the requisite knowledge to be aware of that potential problem.
Now this makes the most sense to me, why wouldn't you put a dino tracker console in the control room that overlooks the paddock. It would've sucked if visitors had eventually shown up, and the dino used some sneaky camo to get them to think it disappeared.
you guys remember the mistakes in jurassic park 1 = t.rex not showing up or giving one person all power @ security? well it is also kinda stupid to enter the "cage" instead of waiting for more info but personally i dont care that much about if it makes sense if it isnt a docu...
Because im sure the last contingency they thought theyd have to plan for is a dinosaur that can go all Predator on them and disappear from all their sensors. I will agree that going into the paddock before getting more info was foolish, though
Because... plot device. But your right in the real world the likelyhood she couldn't just call someone up and say, "hey, where is the I.rex?" "it's in the paddock west corner." "K, thanks" What gets me is these park designers are so dumb they don't take notes from real world zoos and have moats around the perimeter of the enclosure. with a collapsible bridge for entry.
“We can’t exactly walk it.” Lmao technically that was a dip shit question on his part lol. Also why did she not just call the control room from there. “Hey were is the I rex?” It’s in the cage “alright thanks, yeah so it must have some sort of camo” lmao
For real, why give him a camouflage ability? The whole point for creating this thing was to make the visitors excited. Well good luck with that if you can't even see the thing. Plus in our world no one would get bored and tired of the old dinosaurs.
They didn't purposefully give it camoflague ability. They added cuttlefish genes to help it with the accelerated growth rate. That's the problem using different animals to patch the DNA sequences. You're getting a lot more traits than the one or two you specifically want.
She didn't call it from there because it was stated earlier that the area they're in has really bad reception. That's why she calls from her car later, she was trying to get to a place with better reception.
What do you suppose would happen to a human raised in these conditions? Don't ask, we already know, there are cases of things like this happening. Those people come out - if they come out at all - severely socially curtailed. If there was ever a way to manufacture compassionless monsters, it's by sticking something in a small area and making it stare at blank walls.
you know you think they know to never put a predator in a small area they get even more violent, at least Rexy had a much bigger place move around in her cage.
That's an issue regarding zoos for awhile. I don't have a problem with zoos, but I do know that a good amount have issues with the amount of space they provide the animals, carnivores can suffer from this especially sense they're on a higher level of intelligence than most prey animals, and can get bored or go crazy if alone.
It's where the Alpha wolf theory came from and later disproven by its creator. He found wolves change their social structure when forced into captivity while in the world they have a family dynamic.
-Can't call the control room because of 'bad reception.' -Only have a way to actually track your dino in the control room. You know, the room you can't make contact with because of 'bad reception.' Why not have a way to track it in several rooms, including the observation room? -Enter the bullpen, despite knowing next to nothing about where the I-rex is right now. -Notice claw marks on the wall. So what? You think it just hopped over? I think a dinosaur climbing over a wall that's dozens of feet tall would stand out and he doesn't really strike me as the climbing type. Not to mention, if it did somehow manage to climb it it would also need to get back off and a big, heavy dinosaur like that hitting the ground should also be fairly noticeable. Unless it somehow learned to land like a stealthy ninja. -Refuse to shoot down the I-rex when you finally do find it, because it's worth a lot, despite the fact that it's running loose and there's thousands of tourists on your island. I don't care how many millions you pumped into the I-rex, there's no way it's worth the PR nightmare it will cause if it manages to get to the tourists. If that ever happens, you're talking instant bankruptcy because of the scandal. Pretty sure that outweighs even the most valuable of dinosaurs. It's not just one thing. It's multiple things all strung together. For a company that throws millions at their creations, they sure do like to make the dumbest decisions possible. All those smart people working at the theme park and they get outsmarted by a fucking dinosaur.
Also, we see construction workers outside. Unless they find a credible explanation as to how a T-rex-sized monstrosity could climb out and escape without them noticing, I am going to call it conspicuously lazy writing.
There is infrared tracking and it's not a very large pen. They know it's part T-Rex, and the rest, as far as they're concerned, may be frogs and lizards. They don't know they're dealing with raptor like intelligence and even Wu seemed surprised it could camouflage. From their perspective, it would be superfluous to have access to remote track an animal they can plainly see and, when they can't, can track via heat. If you put a liger or a gene spliced 'mammoth' into a zoo cage, would you put a tracker in it? Yes. Would you expect to need to have access to that heat tracker in the observation window for that animal when you have vision and heat tracking available? No. That'd waste money. What would a motion tracker do for you better than what vision and heat tracking couldn't do better?
@@nevermore7285 Except, there are. A closer look around when Owen is seen alighting from the vehicle would evince that there are workers around. There may not be many, but that is irrelevant. The point is that a T-rex sized monstrosity cannot escape without anyone knowing a damn thing. Much as I like this movie, this particular scene was a resplendent instance of poor writing. Defending it is an attempt to defend the indefensible.
@@SamvedIyer And they likely left them there and were sent away for Owen’s inspection. And even still, they had little idea what the I. Rex could do. They were given what they thought the impossibility that the I Rex’s heat wasn’t showing up, and neither was it for the food, and the only evidence they had was the claw marks. There were only two logical things for them to think, that the I Rex was either dead or had climbed out, and they chose to focus on the more alarming possibility that she had somehow someway escaped. And Owen had no way to suspect she was smart enough lay a trap because all he had to work with was the a T Rex was her base, a dinosaur who wouldn’t do that.
Why would they automatically think that it escaped? They've had people working around the clock to improve the enclosure, and it's a damn dinosaur as tall as a building. You would think someone would notice if it just climbed out.
It was revealed later that the Indominus Rex had the ability to camouflage itself like a chameleon, and it could also alter it's own body temperature. This made it impossible to find both visually and with thermal sensors. They couldn't see it because it had camouflaged itself to blend in with it's environment, and the sensors couldn't find it since it had lowered it's own body temperature. It's later revealed that the Indominus Rex is also part *Raptor* which made it extremely smart.
... Yes we're all aware of that, gamester512. That doesn't change the fact that it's a multi-ton creature, and there are dozen of personnel around this enclosure. Somebody should've at least fucking heard the damn thing hit the ground if it had climbed out. Or felt a vibration or two. It's just piss poor writing, but I still really liked the movie because Chris Pratt and Raptors.
exactly my thought. there were people working outside when they rolled up to the enclosure you'd think one of them would've said something if it escaped. but the biggest headache for me is why they didn't think to check the tracker BEFORE going into the enclosure
I volunteer at an accredited zoo and know from talking to the zookeepers that you never raise animals in isolation and that you let their own kind raise them. Owen also knows that while he does have a bond with his raptors, he doesn’t have control over them. Zookeepers at accredited zoos know it as well and are never in the same space with the animals.
The critter not only knew that it was being tracked by heat, but figured out how to stop emitting heat. That's pretty amazing since science hasn't managed to (practically) figure that out (or thermals would be useless in war). I do with writers took a little more time. The same situation could have been created with more care resulting in less facepalm.
Even after resolving not to repeat Hammonds mistakes, these people grew complacent in that, and in that arrogance, made a slew of NEW mistakes. The notion that "We know what we're doing this time, we're ready for anything" worked against them.
Thomas Yeung in theory, fallen kingdom is insanely ridiculous even by JP standards. However, in practice, it made for a very interesting story. I thought fallen kingdom was much better than JW. Considering both JW movies so far have been basically remakes, fallen kingdom does a much better job overall.
SPOILERS! My big problem with Fallen Kingdom is that, they need Blue because of her being a trained raptor. But! Blue is trained TO ONLY respond to Owen. He said so right here, she imprinted on him and sees him as an alpha/leader. She won't respond to anyone else, in all her scenes he's the only human who she listened to. So WHY THE HELL was there so disregard for his life?
BriEva13 the problem with that is that the particular genetic trait that makes her more receptive to being trained is the only thing that matters. In fallen kingdom they only need blue to be alive so she can imprint on the indoraptor. Once they have blue, they don’t need Owen anymore.
It was stupid that Clair was driving in her car to call the control room to track it instead of her being with Owen to call the control room. She caused it, that's why Owen was disappointed and not happy.
Indominus wins hands down. Spino would have no chance in a fight with Indominus. Now the Ingen Spinosaurus, however- would have been interesting to see.
I cant fanthom how claire, the guard, or anyone in the area did not even think that its impossible not to notice such a gigantic dinosaur once breeches it's confinment. They immediately thought it escaped without anyone noticing? Just because of the claw marks on the wall? Also shouldn't they be aware already that it can camaflouge and alter its thermal body temperature thus giving them false negative alert from the security screens?? Weird....
Apparently, the indominus loved to keep secrets, playing the long game to implement an ingenious plan to escape its enclosure the day it ate its sibling. FR. There was a cut scene that confirmed that the indominus being able to hide its body heat was entirely unknown to them, which prompted Misrani to confront Wu.
If it was a close space specifically made to analyze and watch the creature why would they place several thousands of plants that completely make this task complicated
I think clare and the other people seemed to confuse dinosaurs a.k.a living creatures with machines, yes they where genetically engernired but that doesn't change the fact that they are living creatures with killer instincts and intuition, since we've seen their instinct trumph modern tecnology in all six films, yet supercilius people in their arogence always assume they're in control until they find themselves about to be devoured by the creatures they created/ thought they were their control.
everyone talking about thermals this, sensor that, i just want to know why they added so many trees? it's meant to be an attraction. what happens when the rex doesn't show up for a tour to view? by cutting some foliage you potentially see it with the naked eye along with tourists being happier. gg
They do, but Nick (the supervisor guy) was on his lunch break so he wasn't paying attention. It's a common trope called the Surveillance Station Slacker.
So, why not just call the control room from the pen and have them track it? She does exactly that in the car on the way to the control room, then has them contact the pen. There are reasons why this movie is considered to be bad, this is one of them.
In fairness, she probably didn't expect Owen and the others to actually go into the pen before they had located the I Rex. That was the real stupid move.
You don't have to nitpick to know this movie is bad lol How convenient the reception is bad. But the issue here is why they even went inside the pen in the first place to go look for this apex predator. Yeah really smart writing there because if it actually climbed out someone would have noticed considering there's all this construction and workers around there. The whole thing is Owen's fault and he doesn't get blamed at all for that because he's supposed to be the hero of the story who doesn't do wrong.
All that money into building a park and they couldn't just simply use a cell phone to call the control room. It would literally take 30 secs to look up on the computer. She is the one in charge. Not like the workers would ignore her. Yet she has to drive all the way there while dumb and dumber walk into a live animals cage not knowing what it is and no guns.
Chris Paez My comment got deleted. To make things short. The island already had Sat, vhf from before and so did the other island. Ingen is a billion + share holder company that could easily build an antenna array. You could even build one using the old tech from the 1st and 2nd movie doing what they did in this link on an island. www.technologyreview.com/s/522371/how-remote-places-can-get-cellular-coverage-by-doing-it-themselves/
You are telling me that this high-tech facility, does not even have communications with the control room, or that this "Karen" does not even have a cell phone in this day and age. HMMMM.
Why does the T-rex get to eat live goats but the Indominus is fed a dead carcass from a crane? No wonder she tried to break out. She's bored shitless in there.
I never watched the two of these that followed. Everything about the plot and that park were just so poorly thought out that I didn't see any point anymore. Claw marks on a concrete wall makes you think a creature that size would be able to climb up a sheer face? Why not call someone that can check the tracker immediately? Why not have a way to use the tracker there in the first place? Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard were good, but nothing else was.
Needless to say, if the dinosaur had escaped there would've been mass chaos on the outside. There wasn't. How these two thought the beast was loose is beyond reason.
"She has an implant in her back, I can track it from the control room."
"Why not just call the control room and ask them to track it right now?"
"Oh, good idea!" *dials and calls* "We have an asset out of containment!"
*checks screen* "Nah she's still in the pen."
Thank you HISHE
“Aw nuts!”
@Chris Paez I went on a tour through this set. There's full LTE signal in the jungle. 👍
USAFJUNKIE because there’s a tower nearby.
JurassicHero 3 exactly!
@JurassicHero 3
Then I'm pretty sure there should be a direct link to the control room to the paddock via underground cables.
"The only positive relationship this animal has is with that crane" 😂
Moustafa Al Amassi At least she knows that means “food”
I don't even have a crane
It's very true tbh
@@lionheart7762 do you at least have food?
"Your raptors are born in captivity."
"With siblings."
"This one had a sibling too. She ate it alive."
"Talk about extreme sibling rivalry..."
That's what some t.rex siblings do but not velociraptors because their pack hunter's when they hunt you wouldn't even know that the other two raptors are there.
Your looking at it from a human stand point there could have been dozens of reasons for her attacking her sibling mother birds push chicks out of the nest if it looks like it was disturbed and rodents eat there young if their scent changes
@seanbraley2772 animals may also kill their young if the babies are sick or in danger of starving to death.
In the case of the two Indominouses, it's possible one of them was experiencing complications from having a genetic structure that might as well have been blocks from 20 different Lego sets. The weaker one may not have been thriving and it's possible their nutritional needs weren't being met due to their complex nature. So to keep her from suffering, the stronger Irex would have killed her.
"the only positive relationship this animal has is with that crane..." I love the way he says it
Animals raised in isolation are not always the most functional. That line got me thinking: if they had shown the indominus more kindness, maybe it would not have turned out to be the villian?
Not just kindness, but social interaction as well
But it's also true in real life.
@@OmegaPictures318 social interaction would not likely have been entirely feasible given her sheer size and how fast she grew. She had a sibling and she ate it.
One way or another, she’d have been a dangerous asset.
A ten ton fifty foot meat eater is a problem regardless of its good social cues
It’s not about being a villain.
It’s about social skills.
You see it everywhere: animals learn through rough-and-tumble play. Ever wondered why?
Because they can assess the acceptable limits of physical interaction. It’s a mutual social negotiation.
Growing up in isolation, sets you back years on this matter among your peers.
Introvert kids, raised alone, with no siblings and little to no friends, with over protective parents are the worst. Chances are they increase their probability of turning into bullies, or become so weak they’re really useless and no wonder become easy targets.
It doesn’t apply for all but it’s a very predictable pattern.
“This doesn’t makes sense” *chomps down on jerky
vertrau Auf ihn His last meal 😂
@El Chivato What was he supposed to do? Stand there and politely be eaten? Besides, although he opened the door, Owen led Indominus to it. If we blame the fat supervisor we also have to blame Owen.
@@williamhiers1280 Well rather have them die than thousands of people who died because that guy opened the huge gate that Indominus clearly could get threw, there are smaller doors just for humans in the cage that he could have went threw not the huge gate that gave it a chance to escape. Even if Owen wouldn't have ran to the already opened gate do you really think Indominus would be dumb enough to not notice the gate be opened and not take the chance to escape?
@@0AngelOnTheDanceFloor0 Which is exactly why Masrani orders the gate shut with zero concern for Owen.
@@williamhiers1280 But he still shouldn't have opened the gate in the first place, open such a huge gate just so one person could get out? there literally were doors that were meant just for humans in there
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1:36 = "Were those claw marks always there?" is my favourite line in this movie.
I find it really good of how Owen asked the right sort of questions. It would almost be the same sort of questions when seeing a dangerous stallion and their environment, the relationship with the owner, etc. this movie is really good. Thanks for uploading. ❤️❤️❤️
How good is it really? I mean how long was this other guy sitting in that room? If a animal that big managed to climb over the walls, he should have noticed it i doubt that would have been that stealthy. Also in an earlier scene there where construction workers infront of the cage. If the the Indominous Rex would have escaped it should already been reported. All three characters where stupid in the respons with maybe a little excuse for Owen because he probably didn´t knew that earler that day workers where there.
The movie showed perfectly the arrogance and hubris of humanity and to be honest was the most accurate and believable part in it.
@@Phoenixfede1989 very true about the workers being stupid in panicking to assume she got out of there without being noticed especially the size of the dinosaur. They should have tracked the dinosaur before thinking it escaped.
As for Owen, he didn’t have much to go on aside from what answers he got of the questions he asked. If he knew what size it was from the start and saw it for himself before this took place, he would have known it was still in there.
The reason why I like the questions he asked is because he wanted to know the lifestyle the dinosaur had from the start to where it is now. It gives him the mindset the animal possibly has. The second he saw how the crane gave the food into the large paddock and being isolated, he knew right away it would be a danger to others since it had no idea what it was or the dinosaur itself not knowing its level of strength and focus until it got bold enough to test the theory which lead to what happened. Owen’s questions should often be the same questions people should ask for horses and dogs.
@@TheRealDeal92 I agree on Owen a 100% with you. He is the absolut best part on this movie besides Rexie´s return.
The stupidity with the Indominous Rex didn´t startet with the workers at the moment of the outbreak, but with Dr Wu. Would he have told Clair "Hey look, this new animal could have camoflage abilities and maybe it can regulate her own bodytemperatur so make sure you go the extra mile in terms of security" then all that wouldn´t be happen. Its mostly this classification of what the Indominous was mad from besides the T Rex, that led to the big mistakes at the outbreak.
@Phoenixfede1989 indominous rex can camouflage and regulate her tempature.
@@TheRealDeal92It's true, however, the size of an enclosure can not always tell you the size of the animal. For example some small snakes get big cages.
Let me gets this straight, they honestly and sincerely thought a 20ft tall, 50ft long, 6 ton dinosaur clawed it's way over a 50ft wall in broad daylight with dozens of workers around....and nobody saw anything?
Haha no kidding. It must tiptoed as well.
And somehow did so without leave a single actual deep gouge in the wall. Like, barely scraping the surface of it? There’s no possible way that gets it enough leverage to get over it.
Did you watch the movie? It didn’t. It put the claw marks there to trick the people into thinking it had escaped. They didn’t know it was capable of altering its body temperature either.
The key ingredient of every Jurassic Park movie is that all humans in the film are sub-80 IQ and don't take even the most basic precautions towards self-preservation.
Just what I thought.... 🔥
Here's the irony of this movie. When I first saw the trailer I HATED Owen's character because I thought "WHY the hell is he training RAPTORS and making them tame? And then I see the movie and he is the ONLY one on this island that actually has enough sense to know they are all DAMN fools to be playing God and creating this new dinosaur that none of them know how to control. HE actually RESPECTS the power they have been given....he has a relationship with Blue and her sisters, yes, but he knows who has the power in that relationship and its not really him. They created the Indominous because she was bigger and had "more teeth" as Henry Wu says, and they wanted a flashy new dinosaur to get people interested in the park again, but they never stopped to consider WHAT ELSE she could do. Like camouflage.....like lower her temperature....like use the Raptor intelligence to trick them into thinking she wasn't in her pen. lol I can't wait to see what Jeff Goldblum says about their new venture..lol
@Anna Marfa or they built the cage around the trees.....it is a tropical island after all....but hey no harm no foul
Even “raptor smart” isn’t that smart. How the hell did Indominus figure out the tech they were using to track it? That’s WAY smarter than raptors. Hell, a PERSON who was in that position, even if a genius, wouldn’t know they were being tracked through IR, because they didn’t have the requisite knowledge to be aware of that potential problem.
My question is that if they have thermal scanner in that observatory room why can't they have the implant tracker as well
Now this makes the most sense to me, why wouldn't you put a dino tracker console in the control room that overlooks the paddock. It would've sucked if visitors had eventually shown up, and the dino used some sneaky camo to get them to think it disappeared.
you guys remember the mistakes in jurassic park 1 = t.rex not showing up or giving one person all power @ security?
well it is also kinda stupid to enter the "cage" instead of waiting for more info but personally i dont care that much about if it makes sense if it isnt a docu...
Well that wouldn't have made for a good movie now would it lol. J/K very good point.
Because im sure the last contingency they thought theyd have to plan for is a dinosaur that can go all Predator on them and disappear from all their sensors. I will agree that going into the paddock before getting more info was foolish, though
Because... plot device. But your right in the real world the likelyhood she couldn't just call someone up and say,
"hey, where is the I.rex?"
"it's in the paddock west corner."
"K, thanks"
What gets me is these park designers are so dumb they don't take notes from real world zoos and have moats around the perimeter of the enclosure. with a collapsible bridge for entry.
she runs the place and is not allowed to know what genes the added to it.
She was only to authorize it creation Masarani owns the damn place & even he didn't know the full detail of the monster
“We can’t exactly walk it.” Lmao technically that was a dip shit question on his part lol. Also why did she not just call the control room from there. “Hey were is the I rex?” It’s in the cage “alright thanks, yeah so it must have some sort of camo” lmao
Scorpion Warrior writing wasn’t the strongest thing in this new series
For real, why give him a camouflage ability? The whole point for creating this thing was to make the visitors excited. Well good luck with that if you can't even see the thing.
Plus in our world no one would get bored and tired of the old dinosaurs.
They didn't purposefully give it camoflague ability. They added cuttlefish genes to help it with the accelerated growth rate.
That's the problem using different animals to patch the DNA sequences. You're getting a lot more traits than the one or two you specifically want.
She didn't call it from there because it was stated earlier that the area they're in has really bad reception. That's why she calls from her car later, she was trying to get to a place with better reception.
reign565 they radioed the guard from that spot they could of radioed in or tried calling to ask. Did you not see that?
What do you suppose would happen to a human raised in these conditions?
Don't ask, we already know, there are cases of things like this happening. Those people come out - if they come out at all - severely socially curtailed. If there was ever a way to manufacture compassionless monsters, it's by sticking something in a small area and making it stare at blank walls.
"Is it in the basement, is there a downstairs maybe it's in the rec room"
you know you think they know to never put a predator in a small area they get even more violent, at least Rexy had a much bigger place move around in her cage.
That's an issue regarding zoos for awhile. I don't have a problem with zoos, but I do know that a good amount have issues with the amount of space they provide the animals, carnivores can suffer from this especially sense they're on a higher level of intelligence than most prey animals, and can get bored or go crazy if alone.
Not to mention that animals raised in isolation go insane without a socialization with a member of its species.
It's where the Alpha wolf theory came from and later disproven by its creator. He found wolves change their social structure when forced into captivity while in the world they have a family dynamic.
-Can't call the control room because of 'bad reception.'
-Only have a way to actually track your dino in the control room. You know, the room you can't make contact with because of 'bad reception.' Why not have a way to track it in several rooms, including the observation room?
-Enter the bullpen, despite knowing next to nothing about where the I-rex is right now.
-Notice claw marks on the wall. So what? You think it just hopped over? I think a dinosaur climbing over a wall that's dozens of feet tall would stand out and he doesn't really strike me as the climbing type. Not to mention, if it did somehow manage to climb it it would also need to get back off and a big, heavy dinosaur like that hitting the ground should also be fairly noticeable. Unless it somehow learned to land like a stealthy ninja.
-Refuse to shoot down the I-rex when you finally do find it, because it's worth a lot, despite the fact that it's running loose and there's thousands of tourists on your island. I don't care how many millions you pumped into the I-rex, there's no way it's worth the PR nightmare it will cause if it manages to get to the tourists. If that ever happens, you're talking instant bankruptcy because of the scandal. Pretty sure that outweighs even the most valuable of dinosaurs.
It's not just one thing. It's multiple things all strung together. For a company that throws millions at their creations, they sure do like to make the dumbest decisions possible. All those smart people working at the theme park and they get outsmarted by a fucking dinosaur.
To be fair, that's not bad plotting, that's human nature. Ever hear of the Titanic?
A very intelligent dinosaur mind you
it's a fucking movie. it ain't supposed to be realistic
Also, we see construction workers outside. Unless they find a credible explanation as to how a T-rex-sized monstrosity could climb out and escape without them noticing, I am going to call it conspicuously lazy writing.
There is infrared tracking and it's not a very large pen. They know it's part T-Rex, and the rest, as far as they're concerned, may be frogs and lizards. They don't know they're dealing with raptor like intelligence and even Wu seemed surprised it could camouflage. From their perspective, it would be superfluous to have access to remote track an animal they can plainly see and, when they can't, can track via heat. If you put a liger or a gene spliced 'mammoth' into a zoo cage, would you put a tracker in it? Yes. Would you expect to need to have access to that heat tracker in the observation window for that animal when you have vision and heat tracking available? No. That'd waste money. What would a motion tracker do for you better than what vision and heat tracking couldn't do better?
To think this entire catastrophe could have been prevented with a god damn 30 second phone call.
You assuming that anyone can just go look at that data it’s probably clearances locked to her and the head of security
So having a thermal detector is all ok but having a implant tracker as well is not? 1:28
Tracer winston it’s at the control center which is miles away.
Spared no expense lol
1:28 Thats when i knew he was gona get so ate
halomaniackslashcraz no shit. Since when do fat people survive monster movies
Pretty stupid but funny to be imagining a trex trying to scale up a wall 😂
Also, we see construction workers outside throughout. Not possible for them to not know a thing in case a T-rex-sized monstrosity were to climb out.
@@SamvedIyer They aren’t constructing all the time. In fact when this happened there didn’t seem to be any construction workers.
@@nevermore7285 Except, there are. A closer look around when Owen is seen alighting from the vehicle would evince that there are workers around. There may not be many, but that is irrelevant. The point is that a T-rex sized monstrosity cannot escape without anyone knowing a damn thing. Much as I like this movie, this particular scene was a resplendent instance of poor writing. Defending it is an attempt to defend the indefensible.
@@SamvedIyer And they likely left them there and were sent away for Owen’s inspection. And even still, they had little idea what the I. Rex could do. They were given what they thought the impossibility that the I Rex’s heat wasn’t showing up, and neither was it for the food, and the only evidence they had was the claw marks.
There were only two logical things for them to think, that the I Rex was either dead or had climbed out, and they chose to focus on the more alarming possibility that she had somehow someway escaped. And Owen had no way to suspect she was smart enough lay a trap because all he had to work with was the a T Rex was her base, a dinosaur who wouldn’t do that.
Why would they automatically think that it escaped? They've had people working around the clock to improve the enclosure, and it's a damn dinosaur as tall as a building. You would think someone would notice if it just climbed out.
It was revealed later that the Indominus Rex had the ability to camouflage itself like a chameleon, and it could also alter it's own body temperature. This made it impossible to find both visually and with thermal sensors. They couldn't see it because it had camouflaged itself to blend in with it's environment, and the sensors couldn't find it since it had lowered it's own body temperature.
It's later revealed that the Indominus Rex is also part *Raptor* which made it extremely smart.
... Yes we're all aware of that, gamester512. That doesn't change the fact that it's a multi-ton creature, and there are dozen of personnel around this enclosure. Somebody should've at least fucking heard the damn thing hit the ground if it had climbed out. Or felt a vibration or two. It's just piss poor writing, but I still really liked the movie because Chris Pratt and Raptors.
Well said sir
Argon Honestly the "Indominous" Rex was just... Stupid for the movie.
exactly my thought. there were people working outside when they rolled up to the enclosure you'd think one of them would've said something if it escaped. but the biggest headache for me is why they didn't think to check the tracker BEFORE going into the enclosure
We gave it the ability to camouflage itself so guests will never see it.
- Nobody Proofreads a Script
I volunteer at an accredited zoo and know from talking to the zookeepers that you never raise animals in isolation and that you let their own kind raise them. Owen also knows that while he does have a bond with his raptors, he doesn’t have control over them. Zookeepers at accredited zoos know it as well and are never in the same space with the animals.
I still like the idea that Indominus ain't as smart as the characters say, but that the humans are just fricking incompetent.
She always pissed the living shit out of me for believing she was the smart ass the entire time
The critter not only knew that it was being tracked by heat, but figured out how to stop emitting heat. That's pretty amazing since science hasn't managed to (practically) figure that out (or thermals would be useless in war).
I do with writers took a little more time. The same situation could have been created with more care resulting in less facepalm.
1:04 I love how she taps on the glass as if the indominus can see or hear that 🤣
“Maybe it’s in the red room” always gets me 😂
Wreck room
He says rec room like recreational room
Shouldnt they have a land line to ensure communication between them and the main control room?
LOVED Jurassic WORLD! I lasted a LONGGGGG 20 mins with Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom...
Even after resolving not to repeat Hammonds mistakes, these people grew complacent in that, and in that arrogance, made a slew of NEW mistakes. The notion that "We know what we're doing this time, we're ready for anything" worked against them.
This movie was much better than fallen kingdom
who is watching after they watched jurassic world fallen kingdom
MrTroll me
Yeah I did the writing and story was even worse than this movie which is pretty hard to top x)
Thomas Yeung in theory, fallen kingdom is insanely ridiculous even by JP standards. However, in practice, it made for a very interesting story. I thought fallen kingdom was much better than JW. Considering both JW movies so far have been basically remakes, fallen kingdom does a much better job overall.
SPOILERS!
My big problem with Fallen Kingdom is that, they need Blue because of her being a trained raptor. But! Blue is trained TO ONLY respond to Owen. He said so right here, she imprinted on him and sees him as an alpha/leader. She won't respond to anyone else, in all her scenes he's the only human who she listened to.
So WHY THE HELL was there so disregard for his life?
BriEva13 the problem with that is that the particular genetic trait that makes her more receptive to being trained is the only thing that matters. In fallen kingdom they only need blue to be alive so she can imprint on the indoraptor. Once they have blue, they don’t need Owen anymore.
i swear i just read the title as " my indominous ex"
its camouflaged Claire,
It was stupid that Clair was driving in her car to call the control room to track it instead of her being with Owen to call the control room. She caused it, that's why Owen was disappointed and not happy.
That “ Oh shit “ I felt that lol actually felt genuine
Some later during the movie, the Indominus Rex also had some Velociraptor Genome as well.
1:23 This makes me wonder where the indominus was hiding for her to be undetectable
This one is far better than its sequel. That much I got.
It would be wonderful to watch a duel between spinasaurus eagiptiacus and the indominus rex
Indominus wins hands down. Spino would have no chance in a fight with Indominus.
Now the Ingen Spinosaurus, however- would have been interesting to see.
What is funny is she can call the control room instead of going there herself.
There is no reception in this part of the island
@@arkhamtony3775 really?
@@jasmineliew2000 Yes
They then ENTER the cage to see in person if its there......How dumb are they ?? They started the whole thing by letting it out.
I cant fanthom how claire, the guard, or anyone in the area did not even think that its impossible not to notice such a gigantic dinosaur once breeches it's confinment. They immediately thought it escaped without anyone noticing? Just because of the claw marks on the wall? Also shouldn't they be aware already that it can camaflouge and alter its thermal body temperature thus giving them false negative alert from the security screens?? Weird....
Apparently, the indominus loved to keep secrets, playing the long game to implement an ingenious plan to escape its enclosure the day it ate its sibling.
FR. There was a cut scene that confirmed that the indominus being able to hide its body heat was entirely unknown to them, which prompted Misrani to confront Wu.
@@RogueT-Rex8468 iirc doesn't that even come as a slight surprise to Dr. Wu as well?
You made a new dinasour but you don't even know who is this best line ever
better as the second movie...second movie play than only most time in this villa
Damn. Not only can Indominus camouflage. She can lower body heat undetected to sensors. Fuck me...
And knows that IR sensors exist and are being used because…reasons.
If it was a close space specifically made to analyze and watch the creature why would they place several thousands of plants that completely make this task complicated
Owen knows dinos well wish they made a sequel
The most dangerous dog is the one that keep in the house all their life not meeting other people and owners still say they’re friendly and wont bite
How about check the tracker now before they send people into the paddock lol
Why can’t they access the tracker from that room? 😂
You'd think the control room might notice a dinosaur wandering around outside of containment
I think clare and the other people seemed to confuse dinosaurs a.k.a living creatures with machines, yes they where genetically engernired but that doesn't change the fact that they are living creatures with killer instincts and intuition, since we've seen their instinct trumph modern tecnology in all six films, yet supercilius people in their arogence always assume they're in control until they find themselves about to be devoured by the creatures they created/ thought they were their control.
"You made a new dinosaur but you don't even know what it is?" Lol
Ok the scientistand the people in jurassic world are basiclly playing gods by bringin dinosaurs to life
everyone talking about thermals this, sensor that, i just want to know why they added so many trees? it's meant to be an attraction. what happens when the rex doesn't show up for a tour to view? by cutting some foliage you potentially see it with the naked eye along with tourists being happier. gg
Literally something Hammond realized in the very first test run of the park, and yet years later they’re still being flummoxed by it.
1:19 the indominus Rex can camouflage
Just imagine is Indominus think that Claire is the mother.That will be cute
Plot Holes: The Movie.
Why is the security guy wearing a hard hat 😂?
And then their first thought was to walk in there and look around. lmao
One job The Thing from the fantastic four would love to do, is walk that dinosaur
Hurr durr. Let’s go see if it’s still in there, even though it’s got a tracker in it’s body for this very reason.
Why do they even have CCTV if they dont use it?
They do, but Nick (the supervisor guy) was on his lunch break so he wasn't paying attention. It's a common trope called the Surveillance Station Slacker.
So, why not just call the control room from the pen and have them track it? She does exactly that in the car on the way to the control room, then has them contact the pen. There are reasons why this movie is considered to be bad, this is one of them.
The reception sucked, she had to yell into the mic in order to get their attention. Not bad writing at all. xD!
In fairness, she probably didn't expect Owen and the others to actually go into the pen before they had located the I Rex.
That was the real stupid move.
Except the movie isn't considered bad by anyone but nitpickers. I don't think she could get very good cell reception in the I-Rex exhibit.
You don't have to nitpick to know this movie is bad lol How convenient the reception is bad. But the issue here is why they even went inside the pen in the first place to go look for this apex predator. Yeah really smart writing there because if it actually climbed out someone would have noticed considering there's all this construction and workers around there. The whole thing is Owen's fault and he doesn't get blamed at all for that because he's supposed to be the hero of the story who doesn't do wrong.
Bradley McDaniel I'm a lifelong jp fan and I can say that this is pretty bad.
All that money into building a park and they couldn't just simply use a cell phone to call the control room. It would literally take 30 secs to look up on the computer. She is the one in charge. Not like the workers would ignore her.
Yet she has to drive all the way there while dumb and dumber walk into a live animals cage not knowing what it is and no guns.
Chris Paez My comment got deleted. To make things short. The island already had Sat, vhf from before and so did the other island. Ingen is a billion + share holder company that could easily build an antenna array. You could even build one using the old tech from the 1st and 2nd movie doing what they did in this link on an island. www.technologyreview.com/s/522371/how-remote-places-can-get-cellular-coverage-by-doing-it-themselves/
You are telling me that this high-tech facility, does not even have communications with the control room, or that this "Karen" does not even have a cell phone in this day and age. HMMMM.
leave them be bro its their first time opening up a new park for dinosaurs to roam
Finishes eating his meal in the heat of a disaster!
bad radio reception? did you know there is a thing called 'drone'?
Why would they not be monitoring it's tracker in the room specifically designed to monitor it?
Because idiots wrote this
Not sure why she didn't just check the tracker first?
so the plot can progress
Fallen Kingdom has something just as stupid happen to progress the plot
Why does the T-rex get to eat live goats but the Indominus is fed a dead carcass from a crane? No wonder she tried to break out. She's bored shitless in there.
I’m gonna be honest with y’all, I misread the title and I was like “what the fuck I gotta check this out”
Clever girl
Was there a reason why she didn't call the control room to track it?
I love how this is the perfect metaphor for the importance of critical-thinking skills.......
Cool 😎
Poor dinosaur it wants freedom
could ave just called the control room from the paddock.
Or you can call the control from from your cell phone and ask them to track it. Just saying.
Very cool scene, and a very good movie in my opinion
If you want to gauge how a dinosaur behaves look at a crocodile: i.e. No Control Ever.
So question, if they can’t find its heat signature can’t they just look at where her tracking implant is and see that she’s still in the paddock? Lol
"The rest is classified"
Don't give us that classified bullshit, lady!!!
CRAZY JURASSIC WORLD (2015 ) FILM - INDOMINUS REX CAGE SCENE !!!
I never watched the two of these that followed. Everything about the plot and that park were just so poorly thought out that I didn't see any point anymore. Claw marks on a concrete wall makes you think a creature that size would be able to climb up a sheer face? Why not call someone that can check the tracker immediately? Why not have a way to use the tracker there in the first place? Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard were good, but nothing else was.
Needless to say, if the dinosaur had escaped there would've been mass chaos on the outside. There wasn't. How these two thought the beast was loose is beyond reason.
*Taps on the window profusely* at the hope the dinosaur will pop its heads out and say “oh hello!” Who writes this shit lol?!!
Why would they use thermal imaging cameras on a cold blooded animal ??
I blame dr wu for making this hybrid and mostly the blame for claire because she couldve called right next to Owen..
She didn't call because there is no reception in this part of the island
@@arkhamtony3775 didn’t stop her from calling in the car.
Why not send a drone in the cage?!?!?
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It's not a cage, it's a paddock🤨
Own more time hope this back research helps . Lol Monique
She knocked on the fucking glass.
How tf do you raise something like this
I had forgotten just how stupid and arrogant they made her character at the beginning of this movie.
Why don't just call the control room and find out where she is at that very minute?
Because no reception in this part of the island
@@arkhamtony3775 Billions invested and they can't afford a single cell tower? Penguins in zoo are better secured and protected than these dinosaurs.