@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Mi piace il colore della sua voce e suona naturale e non ingolato, direi che è un bravo baritono 👍👏 Ma Petti e Lagvilava sono i migliori del 21esimo secolo!
Besides the Count's high F sharp in "Hai gia vinta la causa", this is a very tricky high note for us. It's right there above the second passaggio above E above Middle C and it's on an open [AH] vowel which is counterproductive against the rules of NOT opening up there. Truly a great compilation that truly deserved it's place. My list of my favorite baritones singing them: 1. Granforte -- uncannily perfect attack and what an even vibrato for a big baritone to have! Not one wavered sound on that note, perfectly in tune and perfectly in the maximum vibrato speed. 2. MacNeil 3. Guelfi 4. Milnes 5. Warren 6. Straccieri
I also like Ruffo, Galeffi, Silveri, Bastianini and Petti’s high F sharp. Very few baritones can sing both Count and Gerard, Count is usually sung by a low baritone or a bass-baritone (like George London), but Gerard is a high baritone role.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 I don't know if its higher than the Count (I mean the first act aria Son sessantani does go up to explosive F#s out of nowhere) but the rest of the role seems to be your typical verismo baritone role -- big, dramatic, meaty middle singing. Count on the other hand, is about as low as Figaro (you're just not singing as many low Gs or Fs a Figaro does in the ensembles) so a baritone like Gobbi being able to sing both roles is extraordinary in its own right.
@@deadwalke9588 The Count has a lot of low notes (below C3) but Gerard only has few B2s and nothing below B2 because the first Gerard was Mario Sammarco, a very high baritone who has trouble with the Eri tu low A and even the C3s in Non piu andrai.
This is an awesome compilation. John Charles Thomas is worth listening to in this aria if you have not already. Warren’s high notes had so much overtone. They must have been huge in the house. I like Bastianini, Warren, Granforte, Maffeo, Guelfi and Zanacaro in this video.
The photo you include with the 36th baritone in this marvellous compilation actually depicts American tenor Jan Peerce (1904-1984) and is not Philip J. Maero.
Galeffi, Granforte, Maffeo, Panerai, Bastianini, Herlea und Zancanaro sind für mich hier die herausragenden Interpreten. Heutzutage ist Amartuvshin Enkhbat die erste Wahl.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Ja der Mongole Amartuvshin Enkhbat mit seiner phänomenalen Stimme. Habe ihn mehrmals erlebt, u.a. als Rigoletto. Mittlerweile singt er viel in Italien. Bei RUclips ist er gut vertreten, hören Sie z.B. auch mal "B.Sharav - Aav Eej 2 mini, Amartuvshin Enkhbat, Baritono und Odgerel Sampilnorov, Piano"
the F sharp is the sweetspot for the baritone. This passage is actuallly quite difficult because of it´s high tessitura and tricky vowels, the music is beautifully written (I believe the complete opera is great) and this is a very good compilation, so much vocal splendor in Macneil, Ruffo, Granforte and Taddei!
Barone: I believe it was the vocal teaching and manner of teaching that produced so many great Italian baritones and tenors in last century!. I had a wonderful teacher who came from an similar lineage. The exercises were deceptively simple. The goal was a relaxed delivery with a focused core of voice.....like supercharged talking . No fake darkening of sound or swallowing voice. He turned me on to Bonelli, Stracciari, metternich, young john charles Thomas etc. Great Italian baritones in past were relatively short yet had voices with superior carrying power as opposed to the 6foot 4 baritones now singing who have woofy voices
They all are amazing ! Great top 50 ! Very interesting too the difference the recording equipment makes. For me my top 10 ( hard to put together with such competition ! ) : Granforte 3:24 Ruffo 1:35 Stracciari 1:18 Danise 2:06 Warren 6:15 Bonelli 4:31 Bastianini 9:06 Sammarco 0:44 Merrill 8:12 McNeil 9:22
@@abcdefgh-db1to But at least I could recognize the piece Hampson sings, but I couldn't recognize the piece Shore sings until I heard the orchestral part. I hope Mattia Battistini and Giuseppe De Luca could record Nemico della patria...
Giraldoni had a very large voice, it was a pity he never recorded with Caruso, he died quite young. Guelfi Ruffo Stracciari Granforte and Schlusnus all are excellent, I find Stabile always interesting, not a pretty voice but he was an amazing artist and a great actor to boot! All are Good!
No, my favorite are Titta Ruffo, Carlo Galeffi, Apollo Granforte, Lawrence Tibbett, Leonard Warren, Anselmo Colzani, Ettore Bastianini, Nicolae Herlea, Sherrill Milnes and Silvano Carroli.
Bastianini has, without a doubt, no peers. Not just the perfectly placed voice, thrilling high notes,but the artistry, musicionship, diction. I could go on.
Grazie Barone perr queste... "perle comparative". Già fatto la cadenza finale dei "verd'anni miei" ? Sarebbe interessante vedere come i vari baritoni la "cesellano". Magari con l'acutone... (la naturale ?)
Warren, The Big Mac and Bastiannini are great, but for me Herlea is unbeatable is this phrase also. Nowadays Ernesto Petti is in very good in the competition.
@@judithbereczky4114 Never liked Juan Pons, I think he is one of the most overrated 6 baritones (Nucci, Wixell, DFD, Hvorostovsky, Shore, Pons). His voice is small and throaty, and his musicality is terrible.
What do you think about Mattia Battistini? My newest favorite.When I listen to him singing Bel sogno beato, (I Puritani, of course you know) I feel being in Heaven. You should make a list with baritones singing this aria (at least, only, Ah, per sempre...) to see who is the best. Unfortunately, I can't find the aria with Ettore Bastianini, my favorite (20th century), so he might have never recorded the aria?
Voces irrepetibles. Ningún barítono actual canta así. Pettit es un barítono actual que me parece tiene una voz increíble y una interpretación a considerar, es para estar cantando en los mejores teatros líricos y no ese mal barítono que es Salsi.
Baritones are underrated. Because the baritones are usually the bad guys, but IMHO they have much better music than the tenors and sopranos. But there are some overrated baritones too, like Nucci, DFD, Wixell, Hampson, Salsi, Pons, Shore... etc.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Ho anche notato un cliché piuttosto comune nelle Opere, per esempio: tenore e soprano si amano ma baritono non vuole che si sposino o perché ama soprano o perché odia tenore... È piuttosto comune nelle trame delle Opere. E raramente vengono messe le voci "intermedie" (baritoni e mezzosoprani intendo) come protagoniste, anche se ci sono delle eccezioni fortunatamente. Però spesso la musica delle voci intermedie è più bella di quelle delle voci acute, e io stessa preferisco le voci più scure a quelle chiare; per esempio tra i ruoli per soprani mi piacciono di più i ruoli per soprani spinti, drammatici/Wagneriani/Falcon... Adoro in generale le voci più drammatiche e scure, e preferisco spesso i mezzosoprani ai soprani, ma dipende ovviamente anche dalla voce che uno ha.
@@esterbruno8604 Preferisco sempre mezzo soprani e contralti rispetto a soprani, baritoni e bassi rispetto ai tenori. Ma la tecnica di canto corretta è la cosa più importante.
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I forgot Salvatore Sassu: ruclips.net/video/dzNx7BgCXLg/видео.html
Not to mention Leonard Warren
Oops, my mistake. I see him now.
Sassu is impressive
Grazie carissimo @BaroneVitellioScarpia1
11:04 one of the most beautiful F#4 and one of the most underrated baritones...Herlea. 🎼
Он лучший из всех....никогда не понимал почему его так недооценивают!!!!
Bastianini owns this aria.....Bastianini owns the role of Gerard. There will never be another like him, ever.
You can't sing this aria any better than the way Bastianini sang it, but not all the versions here are in the same key.
Agree but Maffeo and Taddei are remarkable
I agree completely with you regarding Bastianini. When he sings this aria it touches my soul♥️
Now, This is luxury. My fifth time going through the list and I'm still not tired
Bastianini is the gold standard whether live or studio with beautiful tone and emotion! Granforte and Stracciari are very good
Bravissimi tutti. Ruffo e Stracciari in questo brano mi emozionano in modo particolare. Bel lavoro Barone.
Ora abbiamo solo l'orribile tenore corto Premifa Famingo come Gerard ...
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 ora siamo messi molto male come baritoni..
@@ritapapiri Ora questo ruolo è cantato da tenori sottosviluppati ...
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Il Gerard di Domingo è insentibile.
Già come Chenier non era un granché, ma era comunque migliore.
Thank you for this video! This is really one of the most outstanding baritone arias, and what a mighty climax it has.
And one of the HARDEST baritone arias.
watch the last baritone, he maybe the real deal for today's stage!
@@道-p2e Petti is the best Gerard now.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 His new post is rich and deep... big improvement over his previous years'. Love it.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 thank u so much
Thank you for doing this amazing work. It's greatly appreciated.
Bellissima selezione , molto interessante complimenti e grazie mille.
Tutte Voci Meraviglioseee !
C'è l'imbarazzo della scelta tra tutti questi magnifici baritoni 🥰🥰🥰 Bravi tutti!
Fortunatamente abbiamo Ernesto Petti, il miglior Gerard del 21 ° secolo!
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Petti è fantastico! E anche Lagvilava è un ottimo Gerard ruclips.net/video/H42EvhRqXMA/видео.html 😍
@@esterbruno8604 Penso che anche questo baritono sia bravo, ma preferisco Petti. ruclips.net/video/mPmOBsMBIH4/видео.html
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Mi piace il colore della sua voce e suona naturale e non ingolato, direi che è un bravo baritono 👍👏 Ma Petti e Lagvilava sono i migliori del 21esimo secolo!
Such a serious business, what a list!!! Great photos too! They still sound like a baritone even at high notes... rare to find nowdays!
But Ernesto Petti is great!
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Of course, he is on that grand list!!!
But he is a rising TRUE star of this chaotic downhill trend confused operatic world.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Maybe it is a great time to do some Duet...
ruclips.net/video/PjtfSLjroE8/видео.html
Thank uou. Wonderful. 1.Bastionini. 2. Maffeo. But they're all fantastic. One of the greatest arias in all opera.
Besides the Count's high F sharp in "Hai gia vinta la causa", this is a very tricky high note for us. It's right there above the second passaggio above E above Middle C and it's on an open [AH] vowel which is counterproductive against the rules of NOT opening up there. Truly a great compilation that truly deserved it's place.
My list of my favorite baritones singing them:
1. Granforte -- uncannily perfect attack and what an even vibrato for a big baritone to have! Not one wavered sound on that note, perfectly in tune and perfectly in the maximum vibrato speed.
2. MacNeil
3. Guelfi
4. Milnes
5. Warren
6. Straccieri
I also like Ruffo, Galeffi, Silveri, Bastianini and Petti’s high F sharp. Very few baritones can sing both Count and Gerard, Count is usually sung by a low baritone or a bass-baritone (like George London), but Gerard is a high baritone role.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 I don't know if its higher than the Count (I mean the first act aria Son sessantani does go up to explosive F#s out of nowhere) but the rest of the role seems to be your typical verismo baritone role -- big, dramatic, meaty middle singing. Count on the other hand, is about as low as Figaro (you're just not singing as many low Gs or Fs a Figaro does in the ensembles) so a baritone like Gobbi being able to sing both roles is extraordinary in its own right.
@@deadwalke9588 The Count has a lot of low notes (below C3) but Gerard only has few B2s and nothing below B2 because the first Gerard was Mario Sammarco, a very high baritone who has trouble with the Eri tu low A and even the C3s in Non piu andrai.
Bravissimi tutti!!
Gianni Maffeo è grandissimo👍👏
Poi con Apollo Granforte..
Maffeo ha una voce bellissima, Granforte e' un leone
Bravi quasi tutti.
@@eugeniogentili1048 Quasi tutti? Tutti sono grandissimi!
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Non stravedo x Bruson, ottimo lavoro Barone.
@@eugeniogentili1048 Non sono un fan di Bruson ma suona bene in questo ruolo (era giovane quando lo ha registrato).
Muchisimas gracias!!! excelente trabajo, maravilloso!!!
Danise ❤️
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This is an awesome compilation. John Charles Thomas is worth listening to in this aria if you have not already. Warren’s high notes had so much overtone. They must have been huge in the house. I like Bastianini, Warren, Granforte, Maffeo, Guelfi and Zanacaro in this video.
AGREE !!
Agree but I'll add Taddei
@@adogonasidecar1262 yes, I should have included Taddei.
Thanks a lot, it is very interesting to compare such different but great interpretations. Only one minor remark - at 9:56 photo of tenor Jan Peerce.
Giovanni Inghilleri and Antenore Reali
Wonderful upload, as always ~ Thank you.
The photo you include with the 36th baritone in this marvellous compilation actually depicts American tenor Jan Peerce (1904-1984) and is not Philip J. Maero.
I’m going to pick 5. Granforte, Bastianini, Danise, Bardelli and Herlea.
Galeffi, Granforte, Maffeo, Panerai, Bastianini, Herlea und Zancanaro sind für mich hier die herausragenden Interpreten. Heutzutage ist Amartuvshin Enkhbat die erste Wahl.
Amartuvshin? Ahahahahahahahahahahahah!
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Ja der Mongole Amartuvshin Enkhbat mit seiner phänomenalen Stimme. Habe ihn mehrmals erlebt, u.a. als Rigoletto. Mittlerweile singt er viel in Italien. Bei RUclips ist er gut vertreten, hören Sie z.B. auch mal "B.Sharav - Aav Eej 2 mini, Amartuvshin Enkhbat, Baritono und Odgerel Sampilnorov, Piano"
@@wolfgangheinrich8199 Amartuvshin is horrible. I heard him live and his voice is very throaty.
MAFFEO, over and out!!!!!!
Bravo all 50 on this list!!! Love many of grand tones...
the F sharp is the sweetspot for the baritone. This passage is actuallly quite difficult because of it´s high tessitura and tricky vowels, the music is beautifully written (I believe the complete opera is great) and this is a very good compilation, so much vocal splendor in Macneil, Ruffo, Granforte and Taddei!
IMHO Gerard is not easier than the demanding Verdi baritone roles like Rigoletto, Conte di Luna and Iago.
Barone: I believe it was the vocal teaching and manner of teaching that produced so many great Italian baritones and tenors in last century!. I had a wonderful teacher who came from an similar lineage. The exercises were deceptively simple. The goal was a relaxed delivery with a focused core of voice.....like supercharged talking . No fake darkening of sound or swallowing voice. He turned me on to Bonelli, Stracciari, metternich, young john charles Thomas etc. Great Italian baritones in past were relatively short yet had voices with superior carrying power as opposed to the 6foot 4 baritones now singing who have woofy voices
And malaspina and tagliabue and protti...very focused full of squillo
Tutti grandissimi baritoni non si può fare preferenze. Le registrazioni non sono tutte allo stesso livello.... Grazie della raccolta..
Yes! Petti be getting a spot among old schoolers! 😌😎
They all are amazing !
Great top 50 !
Very interesting too the difference the recording equipment makes.
For me my top 10 ( hard to put together with such competition ! ) :
Granforte 3:24
Ruffo 1:35
Stracciari 1:18
Danise 2:06
Warren 6:15
Bonelli 4:31
Bastianini 9:06
Sammarco 0:44
Merrill 8:12
McNeil 9:22
Every baritone here is much better than the overrated Joseph Shore.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 yes, squilloless with distorted vowels, quite weird and not beautiful at all. But still better than Hampson unfortunately...
@@abcdefgh-db1to But at least I could recognize the piece Hampson sings, but I couldn't recognize the piece Shore sings until I heard the orchestral part.
I hope Mattia Battistini and Giuseppe De Luca could record Nemico della patria...
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Granforte is the best
belle colection
Granforte!!!! Granfortissimo!
Herlea and Zancanaro!!!
Especially Zancanaro's first Scene: ruclips.net/video/ARNOu2KHayo/видео.html
Giraldoni had a very large voice, it was a pity he never recorded with Caruso, he died quite young. Guelfi Ruffo Stracciari Granforte and Schlusnus all are excellent, I find Stabile always interesting, not a pretty voice but he was an amazing artist and a great actor to boot! All are Good!
Todas estas voces de barítono son excelentes pero en lo personal me quedo con cuatro
Can’t thank you enough! I have been obsessed with this aria. Such amazing voices. Is the last one your favorite?
No, my favorite are Titta Ruffo, Carlo Galeffi, Apollo Granforte, Lawrence Tibbett, Leonard Warren, Anselmo Colzani, Ettore Bastianini, Nicolae Herlea, Sherrill Milnes and Silvano Carroli.
Obsessed? Thank goodness I'm not the only one. I'm obsessed with Bastionini, too. God on earth - which is something to say, from a atheist such as me.
All great voices. As a baritone myself, I lean towards voices that sound organic, not forced. A natural extension of speaking to song.
Bastianini has, without a doubt, no peers. Not just the perfectly placed voice, thrilling high notes,but the artistry, musicionship, diction. I could go on.
Louis Qulico and Gino Quilico ?
Where's Leo Nucci?
Just kidding! All these 50 baritones sound amazing!
Leo Nucci can't be in this video, because he is a tenor!
Nice photo of the Callas.👍
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 You need to create another long list of tenor like baritones, such as Thomas H and Nucci...
@@道-p2e And Premifa Famingo, Simone Alaimo, Luca Pisaroni, Bryn Terfel... etc.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 No need to create a list, keep them under table in the bin... no need to waste time.
Grazie Barone perr queste... "perle comparative".
Già fatto la cadenza finale dei "verd'anni miei" ?
Sarebbe interessante vedere come i vari baritoni la "cesellano". Magari con l'acutone... (la naturale ?)
Did Dmitri hvorostovsky ever sing this aria or this role?
Yes
But it wasn't his best work. @@ariasemusicaslegendadas7657
No he did not, much to our loss. I have heard one recording of him singing this aria. You may find it on RUclips,
It is a selection on his CD “Heros and Villians”.
La de Galeffi es la mejor grabación del aria
What? No John Charles Thomas?
Warren, The Big Mac and Bastiannini are great, but for me Herlea is unbeatable is this phrase also. Nowadays Ernesto Petti is in very good in the competition.
Bastianini e Cappuccilli
U surely missed Mario Basiola... He's outstanding in this aria
I love Basiola but he didn’t record this aria.
Why not Renato Capecchi? Why is he missing from the list?
I love Capecchi but he didn't record Nemico della patria.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Thank you. And how about Juan Pons? Not good enough?
@@judithbereczky4114 Never liked Juan Pons, I think he is one of the most overrated 6 baritones (Nucci, Wixell, DFD, Hvorostovsky, Shore, Pons). His voice is small and throaty, and his musicality is terrible.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Thank you. I only heard him once on TV so I didn't have any opinion (I think it was L'Elisir...). I trust your opinion.
What do you think about Mattia Battistini? My newest favorite.When I listen to him singing Bel sogno beato, (I Puritani, of course you know) I feel being in Heaven. You should make a list with baritones singing this aria (at least, only, Ah, per sempre...) to see who is the best. Unfortunately, I can't find the aria with Ettore Bastianini, my favorite (20th century), so he might have never recorded the aria?
This aria belongs to Bastianini alone♥️
Encomiabile lavoro .Come dire : un bel mazzo ! Comunque, Bruson non è Bruson .
La registrazione non rende giustizia ma Meliciani è immenso
Voces irrepetibles. Ningún barítono actual canta así. Pettit es un barítono actual que me parece tiene una voz increíble y una interpretación a considerar, es para estar cantando en los mejores teatros líricos y no ese mal barítono que es Salsi.
Salsi è orribile! L'ho sentito dal vivo e suonava nasale, woofy e ristretto.
Laurenti sounds kinda tenorish ngl
People praise McNeil too much.
My list:
1) Ruffo
2) Stracciari
3) Montesanto
4) Guelfi
5) Bonelli
Tutti Bravi ma preferisco: Ruffo,Danise, Grranforte, Bechi
Ruffo è un dio!
Anche lei è bravissimo,una voce di altissima qualità bravo complimenti
Grazie.
Possibile che Mario Sereni non abbia mai registrato Gerard ?
Basiola, Amato, Reali, Viglione Borghese... Tagliabue ! 😢
Yes, where is Basiola? I love his voice.
Gino Bechi и Ettore Bastianini исполнили лучше всех
Herlea явно лучший....Бастианини тоже прекрасен,но им всем далеко до Николае!!!!
Are baritones underrated? Or tenors are very overrated and overestimated?
Baritones are underrated. Because the baritones are usually the bad guys, but IMHO they have much better music than the tenors and sopranos. But there are some overrated baritones too, like Nucci, DFD, Wixell, Hampson, Salsi, Pons, Shore... etc.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Ho anche notato un cliché piuttosto comune nelle Opere, per esempio: tenore e soprano si amano ma baritono non vuole che si sposino o perché ama soprano o perché odia tenore... È piuttosto comune nelle trame delle Opere.
E raramente vengono messe le voci "intermedie" (baritoni e mezzosoprani intendo) come protagoniste, anche se ci sono delle eccezioni fortunatamente.
Però spesso la musica delle voci intermedie è più bella di quelle delle voci acute, e io stessa preferisco le voci più scure a quelle chiare; per esempio tra i ruoli per soprani mi piacciono di più i ruoli per soprani spinti, drammatici/Wagneriani/Falcon... Adoro in generale le voci più drammatiche e scure, e preferisco spesso i mezzosoprani ai soprani, ma dipende ovviamente anche dalla voce che uno ha.
@@esterbruno8604 Preferisco sempre mezzo soprani e contralti rispetto a soprani, baritoni e bassi rispetto ai tenori. Ma la tecnica di canto corretta è la cosa più importante.
@@NGTO-zt9qe Then I think you must be a huge fan of Ramon Vinay.
@@NGTO-zt9qe Oropesa is terrible. Saioa Hernandez is much better.
In this video the Granforte is much better than Warren (generally considered the baritone who had UNQUESTIONABLE the best high note).
I like both Granforte and Warren but I don’t think Granforte is much better than Warren. But they are much better than Joseph Shore for sure.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Protti is also good
@@icebabyellen5495 Protti is not as good as Bastianini.