Genre labels often start as a legit "new" style of music/production and then just end up being used to sell sample packs and music software. The more mainstream something becomes, the more watered down and removed from it's origins it becomes.
This exactly. I love hyperpop, because at its core it combines my two favorite elements of hard video-game synths with distorted bass and 808s. But “hyperpop” sample packs and playlists are so terrible now - apparently any beat with a guitar over 170bpm is “hyperpop”???? And unless I know a particular artist, searching for hyperpop music just gives, well, poorly mixed indie pop tunes
MP3 only goes up to around 16khz WAV goes from 20hz-20khz (the full human hearing range) much more noticable diffrence if you have microphones/speakers that go the full human hearing range also if you have less hearing loss.
You know what, that's understandable. I just like customizing sounds and making them my own but efficiency is definitely key to keep the flow going. Thank you!
definitely agree with your point, 99% of sample packs now are just someone's own song broken down into layers hard to make something that feels mine, when im using someone else's song lmao
The main practical difference between mp3 and wav formats in terms of quality is the amount of high-end and stereo information. Mp3s lack a lot of the airy frequencies that wavs can reproduce, and to me they sound like the width is really squashed.
yay my comment made it. funny you mentioned skating, since i observed the same phenomenon back when i used to skate. the analogy with the magnifying glass seems legit
Art as in musical art. Not just following rules and making things consonant and pleasing to anyone. Actually pushing and taking risks. I think that’s what that person is saying comparing “artists” to “people who make music” This context goes deeper too, like a “guitar player” or someone who just plays guitar. Your defining constraints will be your gauge.
I'm just gonna chime in, at roughly at about four minutes of watching this video, it's definitely a hobby to me and that I've spent a lot of money on samples programs VST's all the stuff subscriptions being a supporter, yet I have fun creating my uniqueness to enjoy and share with others. And I really don't give a F xxx if anybody likes my music I have fun.
I was watching a podcast that discussed beat making ai. They give the ai an artist/style/song to go off of and it creates 10,000 beats, making so many that something is bound to be great by accident.
sorry to dissapoint you, but innovation can absolutely be done by an ai, and its coming. music production is fairly complex therefore it takes longer, but just look at image diffusion.
@@TheQuantixXx Na, AI works with the data that already has, but hopefully AI filters out 99% of the producers that are copying each other. Hopefully, AI pushes people towards creativity.
@@deadlyrobot5179 well yeah, but humans do the same. what you call intuition is just subconcious recombination of already known stuff or rule application in a new context. all stuff ai can learn and do faster than we ever could. it will happen at some point. just imagine someone letting an AI spend time refining ideas. All the Dall-e ais do is spit out the first best solution, imagine a super computer taking time to refine an idea…
@@TheQuantixXx But at the end we can feel which one is soulless. We humans have a thing that allows us to separate the real art from the imitator, it's a built-in mechanism by nature, we can point out the odd things that are around us. We can eat all the good foods that the restaurant chains are offering, but we all know mom's food is the shit, because it has love in it. I'm sure if we give it enough time, our brains will gain the ability to see the differences between them, after all we are their creators, the daddy.
I could hear the difference between wav and mp3 off my phone speakers. Wav was easily intelligible whereas mp3 sounded pretty noisy and overall low quality, definitely harder to understand
Let me make this clear.. I am from the Bronx, NYC, the home of HipHop. Sampling was the SECOND iteration of HipHop and DJs looping breaks the the origin. There were NO affordable samplers, so the DJs spun record breaks, looping those breaks for the MCs and dancers to perform with. Yes, It was King Tim 3rd and Sugar Hill Gang, after Frankie Crocker took the chance and spun HiP Hop and dance music on the radio. Mainstream would not accept HipHop as music, said we were not musicians, and that HipHop was a phase. We all hear HipHOp only because we fought here in local clubs and the streets to make it well known. There was the 371 Club, TConnection, Latin Quarters , and other underground spots where DJs, MCs, and BBoys battled, all over NYC. Then DJ Steve D came along and brought us ' the funk', AKA, 'beat juggling' ,and he built the Executioners Crew from Harlem, NY.. That is what brought us past looping on turntables into an actual live remix BY HAND, as if someone was editing 2" tape and changing time signatures, harmonics, etc,etc. THEN came affordable samplers, then home studios around the same time Mackie came out with an affordable semi pro level studio mixer. The Internet has NOTHING to do with why HipHop went global, and that is documented, because Steve D , Guy, Public Enemy, and other artists/crews were actually traveling around the globe. Remember that home PCs became affordable around 1996, almost TWENTY YEARS since records like 'King Tim the 3rd', by the Fatback Band..These internet producers are LYING and trying to take credit for events /breakthroughs that happened before most of them were born, they will never be gatekeepers of anything except talking about each other behind their backs, fake beef, and liars who make false claims about their impact on music. Yeah, you might have an impact on views and likes, and be monetized because of platforms like RUclips, yet MOST of you are NOT putting Platinum nor Gold records on the walls with classic music. Many of these so called 'pioneers' are using a computer, and that's your ONLY musical skill. Then there's this feminine ,skirt wearing nonsense going on about which MPC is better, which was NEVER something GROWN MEN were 'arguing' about, even when the MPC 4000 was out.
Lofi can be an excellent introduction to music production and sampling… it’s also one of best ways to keep making tunes if you’re going through a block. Weird take Also disagree with the gate keeping thing. Unless you’re ready for the information the access part doesn’t mean anything
I disagree with the second paragraph tbh. Depends on how we define access, though. I personally believe it makes sense to include all the advancements on the software side of things under "access". Even from my own limited experience, I am pretty sure that with key detection, scale & chord modes, all these AI analyzer tools... today it's much easier to get started (and have fun much earlier in the process due to all the software assistance improving the results), especially for ppl with no music background whatsoever. I guess it's neither a good nor a bad thing exclusively. I'm quite sure I wouldn't be able to make the kind of music I make only 6 months into this hobby with the software capabilities from 15 years ago. I mean, I was actually quite shocked how easy beatmaking can be. And my musical background was *very* limited.
@@kostoglotow 🎯 got these tic tac toe producers sound competent when 10 years ago they would've needed decent music theory knowledge at the least and a decent ear.
I think you misunderstood the "only people who appreciate electronic music are the ones who make it" one. I think, just like you said, most people are raves probably dont make music, and, the only people going to raves are obviously people that like that kind of music. I think they mean, therefore only people that make electronic music can really appreciate how much work went into a certain song since they/we know how long some mangled sound probably took to make and how much automation is going on vs some trap song with a preset in omnisphere with halftime on it 2 step hi hat, metro boomin snare, spinz 808 and call it done. A microscopic % of people dont even realize how little effort went into say, the beat for ASAP Ferg - Work (i can remake that entire beat in 2 mins, bet) vs Any song by Noisia where they probably spent hours or they have said they have spent a whole day on one bass sound. One that took 2 mins -> 130m views, Noisia songs -> 1m average. Just to remind, this is on the topic of "only people who appreciate electronic music are ones that make it"
3:15 hiphop was not it's most popular in the 90s, I'm pretty the 2010s have seen its dominance become a reality. Rock music was far outselling hiphop in the 90s, but not anymore.
Hard disagree with the gui comment. Information hierarchy is incredibly important, especially as a beginner. It also makes the workflow ultimately slower. The best plugins imo hide less important information that you can opt into; arturia and good some kontakt libraries spring to mind like anything developed by slate and ash.
@@Weaverbeats yeah it's there because the mp3 file gets degraded twice due to encoding. I just found it funny xD forgot to send my hot take will try to get it next time
@ttb still, as someone who listens to lots of lofi, old and new, there are still more very good music like that emerging. its not as intricate music as, for example, KOAN Sound or Autechre, but that is sometimes compensated with the amount of material being released
I like your words on music better starting off as a hobby than a career. sure you can make it a career at some point, but there are often many years of no income at all when getting into it, that you can only really stand and enjoy it, if you really love making music, decoupled from money. that's why i would propose: let us gatekeep business people! they don't belong to us, so they can be discriminated!
4:30 I dont know I mean some of those type beat producers be stealing styles and then labeling it as a type beat with no shame. I don't know exactly what to say there.
The music so called market is so saturated, what always hits me is watching people just manufacture music vs. having even a modicum of passion and expression in the finished tracks. There's so much music being made, and it's like digging through the weeds to find people who make a piece of music, beat, whatever, that they're actually excited about. i hear so much quality production, and it might as well have been made by an a.i. bot. i'm just like eh. that's cool. kinda boring because they're making 500 beats an hour. Just not very special. Some of my favorite huge bands took several years between releases, while people just continued to discover their music, becoming iconic. it's just night and day when i listen.
My bro you need to talk about “Scorch” by Sauceware Audio I bought it cuz of the great marketing but it tuned out be trash for me, i need a second opinion
I never cared for lo-fi. I remember there was this label trying to sell me in on it when I made boom bap rap beats but I was already transitioning into EDM/Dubstep and hybrid TRAP/R&B.
"808s are overused" yeah okay and so are bass guitars, electric guitars, pianos, the human voice, kick drums, snares, and so on. It's such an inane attitude to look at what you commonly see in music and think "that's so passe" just because it's common. Enjoy listening to noise music, my friend, because that's where this kind of avant garde thinking ends up in.
Hottest take is at 17:41 where he implies that the max for live Autotuna can even come close to FL Pitcher goto autotune for the brokeboys since day #1
i produce lofi and i never got into it because it was "easy" i mainly got into it because i like the vibe! but that is just me and i can see some people doing it because it does get views and it can be easily made.
I litterally was just watching a livestream and they were talking about AI, so yeah pretty much the same thing they were saying with movies and actors how they can sell their likeness and then boom any movie can have any actor in it.
whats the beat that is playing during your socials? I think I've heard it on a paul wall track but I can't find it and its driving me insane edit: found it, its the beat on Still Tippin' by Mike Jones, Paul was a feature.
Trap does feel outdated vis-a-vis hyperpop, hardwave, even just wave. I feel like that kind of production will take over, since it's so futuristic. The only trap beats I've enjoyed are probably ripsquad to be honest, but I've been listening to more Deadcrow and Skeler than any trap recently. Trap seems to lean more toward deconstruction and minimalism today and it's refreshing to see producers actually put melodies in their songs haha. It's true that they're all trap related, but they're really refinements and evolutions of it, hence normal trap is becoming outdated vs. what newer production styles are advancing.
Hot Take on 2:04: I think AI Generative Music is going to be the quality control (aka gatekeeping) that’s has been missing for years. Seriously go to Mubert and in 3-4 mouse clicks it can already spit out something that’s steps above what a sizable chunk of producers are putting out rn. AI gonna obliterate anyone who’s putting stuff out too soon, so people are gonna have to not only up the game but start gatekeeping themselves. I’ve been producing for over 20 yrs and even then I’m sleeping with one eye open because while I don’t think it will be as soon, AI gonna eventually step into the ring with us “oldheads” lol.
11:20 I'd say watching tutorials from Hiphop producers have less new knowledge over time. That's why I watch lots of tutorials of EDM or house producers, cause you can take away different production tricks from there.
No thats why we have the trash we have now. the youngins had to find a way around because nobody would help them. It also happened to me when I got of the Army in 2005 I wanted to start producing and I got no help from people that said they were my friends, luckly youtube was just beginning to be hot so I learned a lot from people I didnt even know, And right now most of them sound the same as they did in 05 and i'm much better.
What is up with peoples beef with trap beats? They are the most popular because they are the most cutting edge, rhythmically complex and dynamic, and people like them. And they don't all sound the same at all, Future DS2 beats sound a lot different than NBA Youngboy beats, or pop smoke drill beats. Basically the format of trap beats is a super open ended thing that results in huge sonic diversity, and they slap the hardest! Trap beats are the result of hiphops evolution and maturing along with the advancements of music technology and compositional techniques. I guess this is a hot take lmao.
"DAWs sound different" sounds suspiciously like the "FL sounds pre-mastered" people. dude take off the default limiter that comes with the template LOL.
Now this statement is ALL FACTS! Because now there is no creativity in hip hop like 2000s I miss the days like that and I think that is why i am stuck in the area I am now because the support for original is not as sought out!
@@PULSEMusicGroup we’ll just so you if you look up your favorite producer behind the music you loved back then, you might be able to continue to find that music. For me Alchemist is by for one of the best producers in hippityhoppity drop your socks and shoot your glocks, of all time
The songs I have made in Studio one 5 sound so much worse than the songs I have made with Ableton, not sure why this is, but I went from using all 3rd party plugins for mixing and mastering to using a few of the default mixing plugins ableton comes with so idk.
Hot take: There comes a certain point where clout can carry your productions. If you're a well known artist but make an objectively poor track you get a bit more of a pass than someone without notoriety. Like Id honestly pay to see A&R reps judge "unknown" artists but really have the tracks be produced by Deadmau5 or Hardwell - would be really cool to see how the music is received without any pre existing hits out there. Like the masked singer but for EDM.
Lol at the producers who think they in a profession. I've always hated producers who get to business oriented about their shit when they haven't put the time into making something interesting. Like, no dude, u don't need to make a campaign for your music, u need to fix that snare.
Sorry for the rant: Hip-Hop isn’t dead, but most of what is popular today is NOT Hip-Hop. Many producers today are not Hip-Hop producers, they are audiophiles that largely cater to rappers. Following the theme, most rappers are not Hip-Hop rappers. They are commercial rappers. Gatekeepers stole the sound of Hip-Hop. Gatekeepers have maintained control of the mainstream, and they have transformed the sound. I love the sound, but it’s not Hip-Hop.
At some point you learn more from listening to music than you do from production tutorials. Once you know wdf an LFO is, how to make synth patches, how to mix, etc. there's nothing you can really learn from videos, you just have to try to evolve your style by taking inspiration from things.
This will never make sense ppl say just make good music how tf am I gonna do that when there’s no one to guide to me to that point I’m not abt to fail countless amount of times before I get dere no I want a mentor I want help I don’t want to be a self taught producer I don’t want to play with serum u til I get something good will never learn dat way I want to learn from someone who is great at it wtf is the problem with that this shit don’t make sense
the type beat non creativity shit only really applies, imo, to producers that are making type beats for "normie" (🤓) artists, if you search for type beats made for smaller artists theres alot of creativity because smaller artists are often the ones actually making nonformulaic sounds.
It’s a search term. Sort of like a hashtag. So “Drake type beat” or “Kanye type beat”, as in “this type of beat is like xyz”. It’s basically become the search friendly way to get your music out there with the flood of content online.
The biggest copouts of all time: 1). Greyscale album covers and videos (too lazy to develop a color palette) 2). Trap Music in general (just make real music…stop being lazy) 3). Sampling (its holding you back and you know it…again, just make real music) 4). Women who say “I Don’t Need A Man”….
@@whodemclan and none of them can make a good beat to save their lives anymore… It held them ALL back on a skill level, Kanye, Swizz, Timbo etc. ive been producing, writing and engineering for 15+ yrs and ive consulted for artists at labels. Why do u think Ye was in $53million worth of debt?
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Some of these hot takes are just people fighting against the odds to sound smart. Bruh just make music that slapps.
I’ve never agreed with someone so much lol
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AS LONG AS YOU USE A SPOON AND A COUNTER
What about the people that like the music that spanks?
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Genre labels often start as a legit "new" style of music/production and then just end up being used to sell sample packs and music software. The more mainstream something becomes, the more watered down and removed from it's origins it becomes.
This exactly. I love hyperpop, because at its core it combines my two favorite elements of hard video-game synths with distorted bass and 808s. But “hyperpop” sample packs and playlists are so terrible now - apparently any beat with a guitar over 170bpm is “hyperpop”???? And unless I know a particular artist, searching for hyperpop music just gives, well, poorly mixed indie pop tunes
MP3 only goes up to around 16khz WAV goes from 20hz-20khz (the full human hearing range) much more noticable diffrence if you have microphones/speakers that go the full human hearing range also if you have less hearing loss.
You know what, that's understandable. I just like customizing sounds and making them my own but efficiency is definitely key to keep the flow going. Thank you!
definitely agree with your point, 99% of sample packs now are just someone's own song broken down into layers
hard to make something that feels mine, when im using someone else's song lmao
Feeling, or the emotional tone of music, is one of the distinguishing factors between composers or producers (creators).
🤣! amazing. too much verb is choice thougg
Lo-Fi originally came out of people making music out of their bedrooms.
Also screw gatekeeping.
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The main practical difference between mp3 and wav formats in terms of quality is the amount of high-end and stereo information. Mp3s lack a lot of the airy frequencies that wavs can reproduce, and to me they sound like the width is really squashed.
Having Ben comment on your channel is pretty dope!!
yay my comment made it. funny you mentioned skating, since i observed the same phenomenon back when i used to skate. the analogy with the magnifying glass seems legit
Art as in musical art. Not just following rules and making things consonant and pleasing to anyone. Actually pushing and taking risks. I think that’s what that person is saying comparing “artists” to “people who make music”
This context goes deeper too, like a “guitar player” or someone who just plays guitar. Your defining constraints will be your gauge.
Poverty type beat was fucking hilarious. Hahaha.
I'm just gonna chime in, at roughly at about four minutes of watching this video, it's definitely a hobby to me and that I've spent a lot of money on samples programs VST's all the stuff subscriptions being a supporter, yet I have fun creating my uniqueness to enjoy and share with others. And I really don't give a F xxx if anybody likes my music I have fun.
Only if likes paid the bills
I was watching a podcast that discussed beat making ai. They give the ai an artist/style/song to go off of and it creates 10,000 beats, making so many that something is bound to be great by accident.
As an artist, I’m never worried just always aware.
You cant replicate innovation
sorry to dissapoint you, but innovation can absolutely be done by an ai, and its coming.
music production is fairly complex therefore it takes longer, but just look at image diffusion.
@@TheQuantixXx Na, AI works with the data that already has, but hopefully AI filters out 99% of the producers that are copying each other.
Hopefully, AI pushes people towards creativity.
@@deadlyrobot5179 well yeah, but humans do the same. what you call intuition is just subconcious recombination of already known stuff or rule application in a new context. all stuff ai can learn and do faster than we ever could. it will happen at some point.
just imagine someone letting an AI spend time refining ideas. All the Dall-e ais do is spit out the first best solution, imagine a super computer taking time to refine an idea…
@@TheQuantixXx But at the end we can feel which one is soulless.
We humans have a thing that allows us to separate the real art from the imitator, it's a built-in mechanism by nature, we can point out the odd things that are around us.
We can eat all the good foods that the restaurant chains are offering, but we all know mom's food is the shit, because it has love in it.
I'm sure if we give it enough time, our brains will gain the ability to see the differences between them, after all we are their creators, the daddy.
16:15 Was minding my business while listening to the video in the background, then this shit caught me off guard and had me nearly in tears.
I could hear the difference between wav and mp3 off my phone speakers. Wav was easily intelligible whereas mp3 sounded pretty noisy and overall low quality, definitely harder to understand
Let me make this clear..
I am from the Bronx, NYC, the home of HipHop. Sampling was the SECOND iteration of HipHop and DJs looping breaks the the origin. There were NO affordable samplers, so the DJs spun record breaks, looping those breaks for the MCs and dancers to perform with. Yes, It was King Tim 3rd and Sugar Hill Gang, after Frankie Crocker took the chance and spun HiP Hop and dance music on the radio. Mainstream would not accept HipHop as music, said we were not musicians, and that HipHop was a phase. We all hear HipHOp only because we fought here in local clubs and the streets to make it well known. There was the 371 Club, TConnection, Latin Quarters , and other underground spots where DJs, MCs, and BBoys battled, all over NYC. Then DJ Steve D came along and brought us ' the funk', AKA, 'beat juggling' ,and he built the Executioners Crew from Harlem, NY.. That is what brought us past looping on turntables into an actual live remix BY HAND, as if someone was editing 2" tape and changing time signatures, harmonics, etc,etc. THEN came affordable samplers, then home studios around the same time Mackie came out with an affordable semi pro level studio mixer.
The Internet has NOTHING to do with why HipHop went global, and that is documented, because Steve D , Guy, Public Enemy, and other artists/crews were actually traveling around the globe. Remember that home PCs became affordable around 1996, almost TWENTY YEARS since records like 'King Tim the 3rd', by the Fatback Band..These internet producers are LYING and trying to take credit for events /breakthroughs that happened before most of them were born, they will never be gatekeepers of anything except talking about each other behind their backs, fake beef, and liars who make false claims about their impact on music. Yeah, you might have an impact on views and likes, and be monetized because of platforms like RUclips, yet MOST of you are NOT putting Platinum nor Gold records on the walls with classic music. Many of these so called 'pioneers' are using a computer, and that's your ONLY musical skill. Then there's this feminine ,skirt wearing nonsense going on about which MPC is better, which was NEVER something GROWN MEN were 'arguing' about, even when the MPC 4000 was out.
Lofi can be an excellent introduction to music production and sampling… it’s also one of best ways to keep making tunes if you’re going through a block. Weird take
Also disagree with the gate keeping thing. Unless you’re ready for the information the access part doesn’t mean anything
I disagree with the second paragraph tbh. Depends on how we define access, though. I personally believe it makes sense to include all the advancements on the software side of things under "access". Even from my own limited experience, I am pretty sure that with key detection, scale & chord modes, all these AI analyzer tools... today it's much easier to get started (and have fun much earlier in the process due to all the software assistance improving the results), especially for ppl with no music background whatsoever.
I guess it's neither a good nor a bad thing exclusively. I'm quite sure I wouldn't be able to make the kind of music I make only 6 months into this hobby with the software capabilities from 15 years ago. I mean, I was actually quite shocked how easy beatmaking can be. And my musical background was *very* limited.
@@kostoglotow 🎯 got these tic tac toe producers sound competent when 10 years ago they would've needed decent music theory knowledge at the least and a decent ear.
"im just gonna say it the way a white man would say it" lmao
I think his early work made him a superstar and his consistency made him a legend J Dilla
A nice GUI can definitely help inspire :)
I think you misunderstood the "only people who appreciate electronic music are the ones who make it" one. I think, just like you said, most people are raves probably dont make music, and, the only people going to raves are obviously people that like that kind of music. I think they mean, therefore only people that make electronic music can really appreciate how much work went into a certain song since they/we know how long some mangled sound probably took to make and how much automation is going on vs some trap song with a preset in omnisphere with halftime on it 2 step hi hat, metro boomin snare, spinz 808 and call it done.
A microscopic % of people dont even realize how little effort went into say, the beat for ASAP Ferg - Work (i can remake that entire beat in 2 mins, bet) vs Any song by Noisia where they probably spent hours or they have said they have spent a whole day on one bass sound. One that took 2 mins -> 130m views, Noisia songs -> 1m average. Just to remind, this is on the topic of "only people who appreciate electronic music are ones that make it"
3:15 hiphop was not it's most popular in the 90s, I'm pretty the 2010s have seen its dominance become a reality. Rock music was far outselling hiphop in the 90s, but not anymore.
Hard disagree with the gui comment. Information hierarchy is incredibly important, especially as a beginner. It also makes the workflow ultimately slower.
The best plugins imo hide less important information that you can opt into; arturia and good some kontakt libraries spring to mind like anything developed by slate and ash.
6:16 - You're listening to an MP3 vs WAV file comparison on a youtube video that has compressed audio xD
You can still hear it
@@Weaverbeats yeah it's there because the mp3 file gets degraded twice due to encoding. I just found it funny xD forgot to send my hot take will try to get it next time
Boards of Canada are Lo-Fi too, but almost none of their music would work if unlofied
@ttb still, as someone who listens to lots of lofi, old and new, there are still more very good music like that emerging. its not as intricate music as, for example, KOAN Sound or Autechre, but that is sometimes compensated with the amount of material being released
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I like your words on music better starting off as a hobby than a career. sure you can make it a career at some point, but there are often many years of no income at all when getting into it, that you can only really stand and enjoy it, if you really love making music, decoupled from money. that's why i would propose: let us gatekeep business people! they don't belong to us, so they can be discriminated!
4:30 I dont know I mean some of those type beat producers be stealing styles and then labeling it as a type beat with no shame. I don't know exactly what to say there.
04:30 this is excuses, if everyone sounds the same....then all you have to do is what you want to do and be creative and you will stand out
The music so called market is so saturated, what always hits me is watching people just manufacture music vs. having even a modicum of passion and expression in the finished tracks. There's so much music being made, and it's like digging through the weeds to find people who make a piece of music, beat, whatever, that they're actually excited about. i hear so much quality production, and it might as well have been made by an a.i. bot. i'm just like eh. that's cool. kinda boring because they're making 500 beats an hour. Just not very special. Some of my favorite huge bands took several years between releases, while people just continued to discover their music, becoming iconic. it's just night and day when i listen.
My bro you need to talk about “Scorch” by Sauceware Audio
I bought it cuz of the great marketing but it tuned out be trash for me, i need a second opinion
I never cared for lo-fi. I remember there was this label trying to sell me in on it when I made boom bap rap beats but I was already transitioning into EDM/Dubstep and hybrid TRAP/R&B.
LOFI NEVER CARED FOR YOU👁👄👁
Saving to watch later. This topic is trully interesting.
I love reaper for these plugins. Can watch them even while sleeping
"808s are overused" yeah okay and so are bass guitars, electric guitars, pianos, the human voice, kick drums, snares, and so on. It's such an inane attitude to look at what you commonly see in music and think "that's so passe" just because it's common. Enjoy listening to noise music, my friend, because that's where this kind of avant garde thinking ends up in.
Damn! I make lofi mostly
Hottest take is at 17:41 where he implies that the max for live Autotuna can even come close to FL Pitcher goto autotune for the brokeboys since day #1
I... what 😂
@@Weaverbeats FL has stock autotune and it's far superior to abletons 🤬🤬❤️
i produce lofi and i never got into it because it was "easy" i mainly got into it because i like the vibe! but that is just me and i can see some people doing it because it does get views and it can be easily made.
I don't think Divine Architek was referring to mixing but rather composition, and I couldn't agree more with them.
[14:00] "Feelings are Overrated" - Weaver Beats, 2022
I litterally was just watching a livestream and they were talking about AI, so yeah pretty much the same thing they were saying with movies and actors how they can sell their likeness and then boom any movie can have any actor in it.
whats the beat that is playing during your socials? I think I've heard it on a paul wall track but I can't find it and its driving me insane
edit: found it, its the beat on Still Tippin' by Mike Jones, Paul was a feature.
Plugins are great, but as some one who has heard direct examples of analog gear in use, there is no comparison
Bro you are a god. I love your videos
3:04 completely untrue hiphop has always been popular like this.
Trap does feel outdated vis-a-vis hyperpop, hardwave, even just wave. I feel like that kind of production will take over, since it's so futuristic. The only trap beats I've enjoyed are probably ripsquad to be honest, but I've been listening to more Deadcrow and Skeler than any trap recently. Trap seems to lean more toward deconstruction and minimalism today and it's refreshing to see producers actually put melodies in their songs haha.
It's true that they're all trap related, but they're really refinements and evolutions of it, hence normal trap is becoming outdated vs. what newer production styles are advancing.
stopped reading at vis-a-vis
Hot Take on 2:04:
I think AI Generative Music is going to be the quality control (aka gatekeeping) that’s has been missing for years.
Seriously go to Mubert and in 3-4 mouse clicks it can already spit out something that’s steps above what a sizable chunk of producers are putting out rn.
AI gonna obliterate anyone who’s putting stuff out too soon, so people are gonna have to not only up the game but start gatekeeping themselves.
I’ve been producing for over 20 yrs and even then I’m sleeping with one eye open because while I don’t think it will be as soon, AI gonna eventually step into the ring with us “oldheads” lol.
11:20 I'd say watching tutorials from Hiphop producers have less new knowledge over time. That's why I watch lots of tutorials of EDM or house producers, cause you can take away different production tricks from there.
Songen generates whole ass songs I mean it’s not good but hey computers are probably infinite in possibilities 🤣🤣
No thats why we have the trash we have now. the youngins had to find a way around because nobody would help them. It also happened to me when I got of the Army in 2005 I wanted to start producing and I got no help from people that said they were my friends, luckly youtube was just beginning to be hot so I learned a lot from people I didnt even know, And right now most of them sound the same as they did in 05 and i'm much better.
What is up with peoples beef with trap beats? They are the most popular because they are the most cutting edge, rhythmically complex and dynamic, and people like them. And they don't all sound the same at all, Future DS2 beats sound a lot different than NBA Youngboy beats, or pop smoke drill beats. Basically the format of trap beats is a super open ended thing that results in huge sonic diversity, and they slap the hardest! Trap beats are the result of hiphops evolution and maturing along with the advancements of music technology and compositional techniques. I guess this is a hot take lmao.
I'm with you mane I don't think it's a hot take 🤷
"DAWs sound different" sounds suspiciously like the "FL sounds pre-mastered" people. dude take off the default limiter that comes with the template LOL.
Type beats being the reason hip hop is popular is such a bad take lol
The word itself doesn't even make sense, but then again neither does "craft beer".
Now this statement is ALL FACTS! Because now there is no creativity in hip hop like 2000s I miss the days like that and I think that is why i am stuck in the area I am now because the support for original is not as sought out!
@@PULSEMusicGroup we’ll just so you if you look up your favorite producer behind the music you loved back then, you might be able to continue to find that music. For me Alchemist is by for one of the best producers in hippityhoppity drop your socks and shoot your glocks, of all time
The songs I have made in Studio one 5 sound so much worse than the songs I have made with Ableton, not sure why this is, but I went from using all 3rd party plugins for mixing and mastering to using a few of the default mixing plugins ableton comes with so idk.
Hot take: There comes a certain point where clout can carry your productions.
If you're a well known artist but make an objectively poor track you get a bit more of a pass than someone without notoriety.
Like Id honestly pay to see A&R reps judge "unknown" artists but really have the tracks be produced by Deadmau5 or Hardwell - would be really cool to see how the music is received without any pre existing hits out there.
Like the masked singer but for EDM.
How dare you skip me!
Review every Melda plugin to make up for it
AI for mixing and mastering. It gives you a solid starting point, but in 10 years, it will probably beat any engineer.
8:53 true
Lol at the producers who think they in a profession. I've always hated producers who get to business oriented about their shit when they haven't put the time into making something interesting. Like, no dude, u don't need to make a campaign for your music, u need to fix that snare.
idk theres something weird about laptop speakers that lets me feel the relation to kick and bass better even tho i can barely hear it
I know when my mixed are terrible, and I would not dare to label lofi
I've deffo spent way too long obsessing over silly details instead of writing good music.
i may have pirated software in the past... i've pledged to purchase official when i upgrade my setup
Sorry for the rant:
Hip-Hop isn’t dead, but most of what is popular today is NOT Hip-Hop. Many producers today are not Hip-Hop producers, they are audiophiles that largely cater to rappers. Following the theme, most rappers are not Hip-Hop rappers. They are commercial rappers. Gatekeepers stole the sound of Hip-Hop. Gatekeepers have maintained control of the mainstream, and they have transformed the sound. I love the sound, but it’s not Hip-Hop.
9:07 there is your answer
Hot take is a copout for a lazy opinion about lofi
At some point you learn more from listening to music than you do from production tutorials. Once you know wdf an LFO is, how to make synth patches, how to mix, etc. there's nothing you can really learn from videos, you just have to try to evolve your style by taking inspiration from things.
What LuLi said :D
Mp3 320kbs is enough these days. anything lower I would avoid. I'm getting tired of 80mb .wav songs.
I think both were MP3 if you uploaded it to RUclips
The comparison I got was on youtube and there is an audible difference. I believe the mp3 in the comparison is a lower conversion.
Interesting 🤔
Poverty type beat 😂😂
saying hi hats are overrated is crazy💀
haha jokes on you.. I make Hifi
Drift Phonk is okay.
No it's not.
This will never make sense ppl say just make good music how tf am I gonna do that when there’s no one to guide to me to that point I’m not abt to fail countless amount of times before I get dere no I want a mentor I want help I don’t want to be a self taught producer I don’t want to play with serum u til I get something good will never learn dat way I want to learn from someone who is great at it wtf is the problem with that this shit don’t make sense
2:45 how would a producer get a placement with another producer🤔
Collabs with a producer with connections
@@Weaverbeats ah so like collabing on a beat/beats?
mp3 is lofi-wav
The problem is, as usual, language. Describing your music as a "beat" started a terrible trend.
Poverty type beat
the type beat non creativity shit only really applies, imo, to producers that are making type beats for "normie" (🤓) artists, if you search for type beats made for smaller artists theres alot of creativity because smaller artists are often the ones actually making nonformulaic sounds.
first of all, wtf is a Type beat?
It’s a search term. Sort of like a hashtag. So “Drake type beat” or “Kanye type beat”, as in “this type of beat is like xyz”. It’s basically become the search friendly way to get your music out there with the flood of content online.
Tired of certain sounds? Make your own samples.
3:00 Lol, kids these days
These comments are sad
trap is played out, we need something new
I hate lofi.
The internet is responsible for the Mumble Rap contagion andI'mexperiencingdeja'vurightnowgoddamnthat'sunnerving.
The biggest copouts of all time:
1). Greyscale album covers and videos (too lazy to develop a color palette)
2). Trap Music in general (just make real music…stop being lazy)
3). Sampling (its holding you back and you know it…again, just make real music)
4). Women who say “I Don’t Need A Man”….
Number 3s a reach the greatest producers of all time are sample based producers knowledge is key
@@whodemclan and none of them can make a good beat to save their lives anymore…
It held them ALL back on a skill level, Kanye, Swizz, Timbo etc. ive been producing, writing and engineering for 15+ yrs and ive consulted for artists at labels. Why do u think Ye was in $53million worth of debt?