The first year it didn't look too bad with Thibault going 23-12-3, Martin Rucinsky 25 goals and 35 assists for 60pts in just 55 games and Kovalenko with 19 goals in 51 games but after that Thibault was average the rest of his time in Montreal, Kovalenko scored 31 goals the next season but was then gone to free agency and Rucinsky only continued to be a 50 point player.
@@dilididli2274 I know plenty about hockey I was a coach at the junior level for many years. Many great goalies better than Patrick Roy. Spoiled little brat that took tantrums when he didn't get his way. Keeps going back and forth from the NHL to the junior leagues because no one can put up with his bulshit for very long
As a Leafs fan I've always wondered: was this a watershed moment for you as a Habs fan? Did change your opinion of the team? How did it effect your views on the squad going forward? You have to admit, its a fascinating story!!
@@TheOGSnarf i basically stopped watching the games. I come back some times.. just to see how pathetic the Habs are and became. Tunnel vision since 1995. The never got back on their feet.
Patrick Roy enters the room: "WE LOVE YOU". Mario Tremblay enters the room:.........¤ Crickets only makes sound Roy with Canadiens = 2 Cups + 1 Finals. Canadiens with-out Roy = 0 Cups + 4 missed play-offs. Roy with Avalanche = 2 more Cups + NEVER missed the play-offs! The trade that still hunts the Canadiens franchise.
100% Not too long before this when they had their old GM Serge Savard, he almost traded Roy to the Nords. That trade was supposed to be Roy for Nolan and goalie Fiset. But it was eventually nixed. And Savard was fired soon after when the Habs did not have a good beginning of the season.
I don't resent Tremblay because a lot of Canadien fans were tired of Roy's antics. I am more pissed at Ronald Corey for firing Serge Savard which lead to his debacle. Hiring an incompetent fool like Réjan Houle was the biggest blunder ever.
Tremblay never should’ve been coach to begin with and Houle never should’ve been hired as GM. Corey had no plan after he fired Savard. The idiot just thought, oh I’ll just hire former Habs players and all will be well. Roy never should’ve been traded, period. There’s nothing you can say to justify trading your best player. Houle and Tremblay were in way over their heads. They had no clue what they were doing. Ronald Corey is to blame for this huge blunder. They never have recovered from this.
@@steveshutt6409 Exacty. All Houde did was working for the beer company in public relation. Like that made him worthy to handle a huge sport organization like the Habs? Just because Savard was a former Habs does not mean every Habs player could just step in and become GM. As a coach, I actually thought Tremblay was starting to get the hang of it when he was fired and was a good motivator but he probably should have learned his trade in the minor leagues or even the American League first.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 I do agree with you a bit on Tremblay that he wasn’t too bad a coach. But in the same breath not saying that he was the right choice. The Habs actually made the playoffs the two years he coached and some will argue that they had enough talent and it was the talent that got them into the playoffs not Tremblay. Now, I’m also not saying that Montreal was a very good team either. Maybe above average at best but had some talent that overshadowed Tremblay’s lack of experience.
@@steveshutt6409 Tremblay did not have the best help behind the bench. Laperierre for the D squad was not too bad but then he had Steve Shutt and Yvan Cournoyer as assistant both who had no prior knowledge of this job. They should have given him seasoned veteran coachs to help him out. And then Houle stupidely traded Pierre Turgeon!
Wish it was earlier so we could’ve seen Roy in his childhood favourite jersey, and the best jersey of all time - Quebec Nordiques. had they just stayed one more year and won a cup as Quebec this story would have to be a movie
At the end of the day, I feel comfortable in saying that the majority of Habs' fans saw Tremblay as a bad choice for coach, and Houle as an even worse choice for GM. At the time of their hiring, Tremblay was basically trying to be the French-language Don Cherry....and Houle was nothing more than a PR guy for Molson. Most fans saw how ill-prepared they were for the roles they were given...and it went about as badly as expected
One of the worst trades in hockey history. Made avalanche champs and Canadians losers. The very last time any Canadian team won a Stanley cup is 93 which is sad and he was the winning goalie and mvp.
I was born into a Canadiens fan family- I followed Roy to the Avalanche and routed for them for several years following this. The whole situation left a terrible taste in my mouth and it didnt feel right routing for Montreal at that time.
For sure. Hell the reason Tremblay was so frustrated with Roy was because Tremblay was bleeding red, white and blue and thought Roy was egocentric and didn't think about the team.
@@HappyHalBallard OK. The only reason why I asked was I thought Serge Savard had a better deal in place before he got fired and Corey put The Two Stooges in charge.
Desjardins ( star ) / LeClair ( star ) / Dionne ( upside but short career ) / .....for Recchi ... Then Recchi back to philly for Zubrus...... So realistically: Recchi LeClair Dionne DesJardins for Zubrus...
Roy and Roger Clemons had similar type careers in the same era. Both had amazing starts in historic franchises were dumped by their teams and went on to greatness elsewhere.
This is the same arrogance and stupidity that has sunk the Canadiens and their development of young players for 30 years. You can’t treat your stars like beasts of burden. Thank god the paradigm has shifted with Gorton, Hughes, Marty, and their team.
Habs should have asked for Thibault + Deadmarsh + Foote. . and not give away Mike Keane. If they were going to ship Roy out, they should not give away one of the games best forward-D at that time.
Couldn’t be happier with the way the Detroit game / repercussions turned out. Roy was too good to be treated this way. He was too determined to be the best. He won the cup that same year and beat Detroit en route to that cup. He is the greatest money goalie of all time. His playoff record speaks for itself. Beating Brodeur for his second cup with the Avs was icing on the cake and cemented him as the best ever. Don’t agree? Your opinion isn’t worth anything. LOL - look up the HHOF’s top 100 goalies of all time list. The Hall of Fame has Roy as number 1... in ‘93, winning 10 OT playoff games, to having 60 something save shutout vs Florida in game 4 to win the cup... when he was on he was unbeatable.
"Don't agree? Your opinion isn't worth anything!" Typical arrogant Montreal scumbag. Brodeur was better than Roy because he never had the talent in front of him Roy did. As great as Roy was, he had Brian Bellows, Joe Sakic, Ray Bourque, Milan Hejduk & Vincent Damphousse. Who did Brodeur have, Peter Sykora and Patrick Elias in 00 & 03 and Guerin, Rolston & Holik in 95. Brodeur won 3 Cups with half the talent Roy did and he wasn't owned by Cam Neely either.
@@ReflectionOfPerfection you said he never had a great team in front of him and that’s not true. He had the best offense in 2001 and Patrick Roy out played him head to head on the biggest stage. Roy was better and the head to head proved it.
The habs were trying to trade him well before the incident but it was the perfect excuse to get rid of him . I hope the habs never win again worst trade ever .
Yup, but at least the deal they had in place earlier that season would have yielded them Owen Nolan + Stephane Fiset, a better return than the one they actually got, then they fired Serge Savard and the Avs traded Nolan to SJ. Either way I'm with you, I hope the Habs never win again, and I'm a Montrealer.
The last time this team was relevant to the NHL. Now its guys in capree pants and man buns going on about how smallfield could maybe some 40 one day and being jealous of the maple leafs. This teams the joke of Canadian hockey teams. The armpit or asshole of it. This team has 0 identity anymore. So lost from its foundations. I actually liked this team up till about 05. Now its a dumpster fire
You can tell a lot about a city based on how their Hockey Club plays hockey 🥅 🏒. The true colors of Montreal began to shine that night, and has never risen in glow since. The City of Montreal\”Montréal” and the Montreal Canadiens and-Or HABS are a losing throttle, a.k.a a bunch of serious losers. Also because of “Fan-Influence”, historical game stigma, and cultural influence, the players, the team, the coaches, the fans, don’t have fun while they play. They play to win, (wrong attitude), and they suck!! Their play is pretentious, full of nothing, unduly prideful, lame, boring to watch, an apathetic hockey experience, abandoned turns, slacking off at every occasion, no effort, no heart, just a bland mind at work. They are the joke of the NHL, since 1995. And Montreal is the joke of North America. Yet nobody says this out loud. You’re Welcome. 😐
Pierre Lacroix(RIP) should have got the Hart trophy that year for keeping a straight face when explaining how both teams benefited from this trade.
I couldn't agree more lol
One of the most lopsided trade in history of sports
The first year it didn't look too bad with Thibault going 23-12-3, Martin Rucinsky 25 goals and 35 assists for 60pts in just 55 games and Kovalenko with 19 goals in 51 games but after that Thibault was average the rest of his time in Montreal, Kovalenko scored 31 goals the next season but was then gone to free agency and Rucinsky only continued to be a 50 point player.
Well said!
Roy went on to win two cups.
Tremblay routinely loots my recycling bin.
@@johnsweet96 Patrick Roy likes to take it up the ass from his first line
Just love how he went and won the cup that year.
Patrick Roy was nothing but a laughing stock in the NHL
@@MargaretLangille-z8j Thats a fine way to tell us you know nothing about Hockey.
@@dilididli2274why are you even giving this incel loser troll attention? That’s all they want. Don’t feed these sociopath narcissists. ignore.
@@dilididli2274 I know plenty about hockey I was a coach at the junior level for many years. Many great goalies better than Patrick Roy. Spoiled little brat that took tantrums when he didn't get his way. Keeps going back and forth from the NHL to the junior leagues because no one can put up with his bulshit for very long
@@MargaretLangille-z8j you are a laughing stock for that idiotic comment, you clueless buffoon.
Tremblay is pretty arrogant.
He was yes, but so was Roy. Just a major clash of personalities that began long before this game was played.
He’s French… so
@@oilersridersbluejaysthey’re just French. they’re all pouty arrogant dorks
He's my Hero 🙌🙌
The GOAT Patrick Roy🔥🔥
The tone deafness by Mario Tremblay is beyond belief
I agree with THG. It's not the Curse of Patrick Roy, it's the Curse of Mario Tremblay 🤡
Roy value was not so high
@nelsontremblay2917 what?
@@jonathanduplantis1403his last name is Tremblay. Probably Mario's son trying to salvage his Dad's reputation 🤣
@@theRealLA2023 lots of Tremblays
The end of the Montreal dynasty. Havent won a damn thing since. Wasted Jose Theodore winning the Hart Trophy and Carey Price's prime
KHayes666 And who are the men responsible? Mario Tremblay Rejean Houle and Ronald Cory
As a Leafs fan I've always wondered: was this a watershed moment for you as a Habs fan? Did change your opinion of the team? How did it effect your views on the squad going forward? You have to admit, its a fascinating story!!
@@TheOGSnarf i basically stopped watching the games. I come back some times.. just to see how pathetic the Habs are and became.
Tunnel vision since 1995. The never got back on their feet.
@@TheOGSnarf I'm a Bruins fan. Thanks Tremblay & Houle :-)
The end of the last Montreal dynasty was 1979…
Patrick, u r in my heart... thanks for all.. greetings from Slovakia...
Patrick Roy enters the room: "WE LOVE YOU".
Mario Tremblay enters the room:.........¤ Crickets only makes sound
Roy with Canadiens = 2 Cups + 1 Finals. Canadiens with-out Roy = 0 Cups + 4 missed play-offs.
Roy with Avalanche = 2 more Cups + NEVER missed the play-offs!
The trade that still hunts the Canadiens franchise.
And i bet you we won't see another cup in Montreal in our lifetime....i'd even go as far as ''Ever'''
@@MrEslender Yeah I can buy that!
If you're trading Roy to the Colorado in 1995, you have to acquire Owen Nolan as part of the deal, that was a must
100% Not too long before this when they had their old GM Serge Savard, he almost traded Roy to the Nords. That trade was supposed to be Roy for Nolan and goalie Fiset. But it was eventually nixed. And Savard was fired soon after when the Habs did not have a good beginning of the season.
We have the Patrick Roy curse over our heads ever since he left. What a bad trade this was.
Ironically the shelling of Roy probably cost Detroit one or two cups having to play him on a now
Powerhouse Colorado avalanche
28 years later and I still absolutely resent Tremblay and Houle for this awful mess.
I don't resent Tremblay because a lot of Canadien fans were tired of Roy's antics. I am more pissed at Ronald Corey for firing Serge Savard which lead to his debacle. Hiring an incompetent fool like Réjan Houle was the biggest blunder ever.
Tremblay never should’ve been coach to begin with and Houle never should’ve been hired as GM. Corey had no plan after he fired Savard. The idiot just thought, oh I’ll just hire former Habs players and all will be well. Roy never should’ve been traded, period. There’s nothing you can say to justify trading your best player. Houle and Tremblay were in way over their heads. They had no clue what they were doing. Ronald Corey is to blame for this huge blunder. They never have recovered from this.
@@steveshutt6409 Exacty. All Houde did was working for the beer company in public relation. Like that made him worthy to handle a huge sport organization like the Habs? Just because Savard was a former Habs does not mean every Habs player could just step in and become GM. As a coach, I actually thought Tremblay was starting to get the hang of it when he was fired and was a good motivator but he probably should have learned his trade in the minor leagues or even the American League first.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 I do agree with you a bit on Tremblay that he wasn’t too bad a coach. But in the same breath not saying that he was the right choice. The Habs actually made the playoffs the two years he coached and some will argue that they had enough talent and it was the talent that got them into the playoffs not Tremblay. Now, I’m also not saying that Montreal was a very good team either. Maybe above average at best but had some talent that overshadowed Tremblay’s lack of experience.
@@steveshutt6409 Tremblay did not have the best help behind the bench. Laperierre for the D squad was not too bad but then he had Steve Shutt and Yvan Cournoyer as assistant both who had no prior knowledge of this job. They should have given him seasoned veteran coachs to help him out. And then Houle stupidely traded Pierre Turgeon!
The fans should have been making the apology to Roy not him to them.
Not often one of the best goalies in history comes up for trade. Pity Montreal got completely ripped off in the deal.
Wish it was earlier so we could’ve seen Roy in his childhood favourite jersey, and the best jersey of all time - Quebec Nordiques. had they just stayed one more year and won a cup as Quebec this story would have to be a movie
In a parallel Universe, the Nords stays where they are and Roy go play for his hometown and the success of the Avs happens there.
I was watching this live and I almost cried. Houle was the worst GM in the history of pro sports
Mike Milbury: "Hold my beer".
At the end of the day, I feel comfortable in saying that the majority of Habs' fans saw Tremblay as a bad choice for coach, and Houle as an even worse choice for GM. At the time of their hiring, Tremblay was basically trying to be the French-language Don Cherry....and Houle was nothing more than a PR guy for Molson. Most fans saw how ill-prepared they were for the roles they were given...and it went about as badly as expected
Didn't they call Houle "the ghost"? As for Tremblay he was always too hot-headed to be an effective coach.
@@arthurjamesaltmann729 yup....and ironically, a current NHL coach who at times fits to "too hot-headed" to be effective is......Patrick Roy!!!
@@rc24caldwell19 absolutely! How did those 2 ever room together? I know Roy was really young and a rookie.
One of the worst trades in hockey history. Made avalanche champs and Canadians losers. The very last time any Canadian team won a Stanley cup is 93 which is sad and he was the winning goalie and mvp.
Roy was the best with small equipment avg equipment huggggeeeee equipment
I was born into a Canadiens fan family- I followed Roy to the Avalanche and routed for them for several years following this. The whole situation left a terrible taste in my mouth and it didnt feel right routing for Montreal at that time.
I feel bad for Tremblay, he was a fan favourite and now all anyone can even all these years later is he lost us Roy
For sure. Hell the reason Tremblay was so frustrated with Roy was because Tremblay was bleeding red, white and blue and thought Roy was egocentric and didn't think about the team.
My question is DID Ronald Corey already make up his mind that he was moving Patrick Roy, this incident notwithstanding?
No
@@HappyHalBallard OK. The only reason why I asked was I thought Serge Savard had a better deal in place before he got fired and Corey put The Two Stooges in charge.
@@gynandroidhead he did have a better deal in place for Owen Nolan + Stephane Fiset
@@AndrewMocellamuch better deal in return
Is for I’m concerned, the Habs trading Patrick Roy to Colorado is in the top 5 worst trades in the NHL history
The day every Quebecois said "what the f... are they doing"
Too bad for Montreal. They could have sat down with ROY and worked together for the sake of the team
Desjardins ( star ) / LeClair ( star ) / Dionne ( upside but short career ) / .....for Recchi ...
Then Recchi back to philly for Zubrus......
So realistically: Recchi LeClair Dionne DesJardins for Zubrus...
Roy and Roger Clemons had similar type careers in the same era. Both had amazing starts in historic franchises were dumped by their teams and went on to greatness elsewhere.
This is the same arrogance and stupidity that has sunk the Canadiens and their development of young players for 30 years. You can’t treat your stars like beasts of burden. Thank god the paradigm has shifted with Gorton, Hughes, Marty, and their team.
and when my favorite player was traded to colorado i just knew colorado had a few cups coming and it happened lol
Habs should have asked for Thibault + Deadmarsh + Foote. . and not give away Mike Keane. If they were going to ship Roy out, they should not give away one of the games best forward-D at that time.
Seens like a Babe Ruty type of trade ... 86 years til the bext cup.
Maybe. :-)
And the habs were never everrrrrrrrrrrrr the same again. I love it.
Couldn’t be happier with the way the Detroit game / repercussions turned out. Roy was too good to be treated this way. He was too determined to be the best. He won the cup that same year and beat Detroit en route to that cup. He is the greatest money goalie of all time. His playoff record speaks for itself. Beating Brodeur for his second cup with the Avs was icing on the cake and cemented him as the best ever. Don’t agree? Your opinion isn’t worth anything. LOL - look up the HHOF’s top 100 goalies of all time list. The Hall of Fame has Roy as number 1... in ‘93, winning 10 OT playoff games, to having 60 something save shutout vs Florida in game 4 to win the cup... when he was on he was unbeatable.
"Don't agree? Your opinion isn't worth anything!"
Typical arrogant Montreal scumbag. Brodeur was better than Roy because he never had the talent in front of him Roy did. As great as Roy was, he had Brian Bellows, Joe Sakic, Ray Bourque, Milan Hejduk & Vincent Damphousse. Who did Brodeur have, Peter Sykora and Patrick Elias in 00 & 03 and Guerin, Rolston & Holik in 95. Brodeur won 3 Cups with half the talent Roy did and he wasn't owned by Cam Neely either.
@@ReflectionOfPerfection in 2001 the devils had hockey’s #1 rated offense, and Roy shut them down out twice.
@@shayhicks7682 Wonderful, one year. How about every other year from 95-08?
@@shayhicks7682 Wonderful, one year. How about every other year from 95-08?
@@ReflectionOfPerfection you said he never had a great team in front of him and that’s not true. He had the best offense in 2001 and Patrick Roy out played him head to head on the biggest stage. Roy was better and the head to head proved it.
The Casseau curse will last longer than the Bambino’s!
Did he actually go to Disney’s land?
Man the greatest goalie ever went to the worst team…..sad…. Respect u are #1 Mr. Roy.
3 for 1 trades never work
Wow his nose was messed up his rookie year. Lol
Mario you are not qulified. You are gauche.
I never liked corey.
The habs were trying to trade him well before the incident but it was the perfect excuse to get rid of him . I hope the habs never win again worst trade ever .
Yup, but at least the deal they had in place earlier that season would have yielded them Owen Nolan + Stephane Fiset, a better return than the one they actually got, then they fired Serge Savard and the Avs traded Nolan to SJ. Either way I'm with you, I hope the Habs never win again, and I'm a Montrealer.
Screw both of you. Go cheer for bawston or the laffs then
Now that LOSER montreal team will never win a cup again.
We made fun of a beer salesman becoming the GM and now we have a Bantam coach.
explanation: ..french ..
The last time this team was relevant to the NHL.
Now its guys in capree pants and man buns going on about how smallfield could maybe some 40 one day and being jealous of the maple leafs.
This teams the joke of Canadian hockey teams. The armpit or asshole of it.
This team has 0 identity anymore. So lost from its foundations. I actually liked this team up till about 05. Now its a dumpster fire
all a distraction
Should have fired the coach what a mistake
the fans wanted roy traded in the 92 -93 season cause he was playing like a bum that year
LAVALLE SOUNDS LIKE A BUM TO ME NOT PATRICK ROY! DUH!🤡🤡🤡
You can tell a lot about a city based on how their Hockey Club plays hockey 🥅 🏒. The true colors of Montreal began to shine that night, and has never risen in glow since. The City of Montreal\”Montréal” and the Montreal Canadiens and-Or HABS are a losing throttle, a.k.a a bunch of serious losers. Also because of “Fan-Influence”, historical game stigma, and cultural influence, the players, the team, the coaches, the fans, don’t have fun while they play. They play to win, (wrong attitude), and they suck!! Their play is pretentious, full of nothing, unduly prideful, lame, boring to watch, an apathetic hockey experience, abandoned turns, slacking off at every occasion, no effort, no heart, just a bland mind at work. They are the joke of the NHL, since 1995. And Montreal is the joke of North America. Yet nobody says this out loud. You’re Welcome. 😐