Nice summary. Agree, I don’t like the display. I also don’t like the larger plastic fan shroud. It’s more difficult to remove than standard Ender 3 and blocks access to the coupler if I need to remove it and the PTFE.
Chep, i respect you a lot, as someone with anxiety i think you should not recommend the Ender 3 in any of its versions to ANYONE, this machine has made me hate 3d printing after a year
I'll be 100% honest, a loud fan is a plus for me... I use to live in an area for most my life that got up to 120°f regularly in summer, and I got an industrial fan as a result for my room to keep cool. I used it so much overnight that even now that I live in a colder climate, I still keep it on overnight... Cause I can't relax, and go to sleep without the loud hum of the fan circulating the air. So having another loud fan in my room honestly won't bother me, even if the estimated 50 db that the Ender 3 V2 has is way quieter then my Industrial Fan.
I just got one of these, I had some issues with levelling the bed, but moving forwards now.. thanks for your video here, enjoyed listening to you talk about this printer...
Only thing i'd recommend new people with it do, or any new one of these do is what i eventually figured out and that's to push the feed tube in further down into the hot end, as it seems it's not set as deep as possible out the box and can cause many a issue like it did me.
I was told by this guy. Frankly built that this was arguably the best printer to start with and I will buy it very soon I am doing a LOT of 3D printing research
There are a lot of similar printers with slightly better and slightly worse specs. Alot of it comes down to what you want feature wise, what you want to spend, and if you plan on upgrading anything on it in the future. There is no denying it is a solid machine.
I have had one for a little over a year and it was my starting printer. Since I was just learning I spent A LOT of time in the slicer but now that I understand the slicer and have my settings it is great. I have very few print problems with it. One thing I do different is that I use the smooth glass side of the bed rather than the dimpled side. I just get better adhesion with it. If you haven’t got it just trust me when I say be patient with the slicer it will pay off and you will love it.
Man, I like your videos and your approach to stuff. I'm a new follower, and I just bought a Ender 3. If you could reorganize your old videos in some playlist it would be much easier to find them!
@@ModBotArmy maybe one playlist for all the videos related to the Ender 3, one playlist for resin printers, one playlist for reviews of upgrades and materials. It could be a beginning 😁
The Ender 3 was the machine I was going to get. Then they came out with the Anet A8 Plus and I got that one. I have been interested in 32 bit and was looking at the V2. After your video I have firmly decided in favor of the V2, thank you
I ended up upgrading mine to a BTT board as I thought the extruder stepper died after a direct drive upgrade (turns out it was just a cable so.. meh), but ended up also for the touchscreen with the simple Marlin reprap screen "emulator" and I did not regret it. That color screen is more of a hindrance than help, quite honestly... for those that don't know: these screens are separate little devices with their own firmware, meaning you lose a lot of flexibility the basic, monochrome pixely screens have, especially if you upgrade and compile Marlin yourself and want to do funkier things like sync to OctoPrint, use the Pause command and the like as these screens are fairly separate modules... so for example... on pause they just start beeping but you get no pop-up prompt to continue, etc. You can also not modify the menu structure, add new things like the Z offset wizard, or compile the firmware yourself etc. I also really hate that bed glass, upgrading that to a flexible PEI sheet was truly a game-changer because I stopped struggling with first layer warping, etc. It's also worth upgrading the Z axis to a dual rod setup to prevent droop. I myself installed a Micro Swiss direct drive / hot-end kit and with this set-up I'm pretty much completely satisfied with it --- I printed PLA at 100mm/s without any giant quality downgrades or print defects, bridging and overhangs are pretty on point, too. Even ran 2 day+ prints. I've printed PLA and PETG with not too many issues (petg needed some tuning, though) and i'm now venturing into flexibles. Oh, and I also replaced the fans on it, the hot-end fan pretty much started dying after a month and a half and started making weird noises the moment it was started, kinda disappointing.. It's also worth compiling your own up-to-date customized Marlin builds.
What I want to know.. the E3V3 can be had for around $250 . Amazon currently has an Elegoo Neptune 2 in stock at $160. So is the E3V2 worth almost $100 more over the Elegoo. I know there is a bigger community and more secondary market support for the E3, but being that it is essentially a clone a lot of that will also be compatible with the Neptune2. And if Elegoo will get their head screwed on right and get enough Neptunes out there the community support for it will pickup as well.
That's a very useful review. The machine seems to be very good, specially for the price. I am doing some research in order to buy my first 3D printer and I'm leaning towards the Ender 3 V2. Do you think it would be easy to replace the loud fans?
@@judeffr I ended up buying the biqu b1. It's a very similar printer, but it has some features that I thought were more interesting. The fans are also very loud and I've replaced them.
@@Zafor-ium the Biqu B1 comes with better bed springs and a metal extruder, opposed to the plastic extruder on the Enders. So I've thought, if I'll have to expend a little extra on better springs and extruder anyways, why not get a printer that already comes with that? And apart from that, the Biqu B1 has a better integration with BL Touch and I really like the looks of a single USB C cable connecting to the print head. And there are LEDs, everything gets better with LEDs. lol
Nice video !! I am new in 3d printing but i have experience with electronics and programming I have for a little while a ender 3 v2 and i got it with the 'silent board 4.2.2'! I found out that in early V2's they shiped with 4.2.7 boards! I did some research and I found that 4.2.2 makes the stepper motors a bit hotter and not so quiet as they should also makes them to lose layers in prints! Can u make a video about that issue if there is one in the first place! Greetings from Greece!
Great video. I agree, I think Creality needs to lower the price a bit to stay competitive with the competition. Would still love to see you do a video on the Voxelab Aquila, I dont have one, but I have talked to too many people who only have great things to say about it and it is an almost 1 to 1 clone of the Ender 3 v2 for quite a bit cheaper.
I just bought 6 of those during the most recent sale. Seemed like a no brainer choice over the V2. I've also only heard nothing but positive things about the machine so i'm very excited to jump in.
@@SaveTheSunF1R3x They keep going on sale for $160, if I didnt already have a small army of printers I would buy one. Voxelab is a Flashforge subbrand. It just seems like a much better option from everything I have seen over the Ender 3 V2.
After months I can say I've never had to take something apart so much, in order for it work right. After my stock extruder split in half, I've had to fix something almost every week on this thing, it's getting pretty old.
From the other videos I've seen of this printer if you spray hair spray on the bed it'll hold the print well enough and if you let it cool to room ramp it'll actually "pop" the seal on its own so you won't need to use a scraper and risk damaging the glass bed.
Hi ModBot! !!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT I CALL A REVIEW !!!!! NO GARBAGE TALK OR GOING AROUND AND AROUND BUT GETTING TO THE POINT! - I love it -, you make me believe even stronger that this ender 3 v2 will be my Xmas present. Thanks and keep on doing thinks the same way as you did! Cheers, Farid :-]
Hey great video! Do you think its’s worth getting the v2 or the ender pro and just upgrading it? Or is it worth just getting the ender 5? I am an absolute noob and want to get my feet wet. I plan on printing some little things for my reef tank hobby and hey if i can sell a few things, i wouldn’t mind that at all. Your thoughts are appreciated!
Out of curiosity, what did you end up doing ? Buying the ender 3 v2 and upgrading it or just buying the ender 5 pro ? And did you feel it was the right decision?
Haha I tried for quite a bit scratching my head before I said to myself this is bullshit! Then I saw the video and it all made sense. Definitely think that illustration in the guide needs some work.
I have an ender 3 pro. bought back in 2018. always printing about once or twice a week. not a single problem occured. the only thing that i noticed is the unit a tiny little bit louder now. after 1,5 years
I'm considering getting into printing but I had a question for the experts, what causes a print to look very... Line-y I guess? I see some filament prints that look pretty smooth to where I'm wondering if it's a resin print or not but then there's some that look like thin pieces of plastic stacked on each other. How do you get the smoother look?
Hi! I know this is a month old comment, but usually this is caused by an issue called "z-banding". There are plenty of guides on how to fix this depending on what printer you have. Hope this helps!
The Ender 3 V2 is definitely worth its price, my friend has one and it is a very good and enjoyable printer, however, I have a Voxelab Aquila which is an Open Source clone of the V2 but has a better screen which is horizontal and the GUI is much better and at $179 so is the price
That's the same screen, isn't it? Just has different firmware. I've read that people have flashed them with the Creality firmware and then converted everything to Jyersm firmware.
Good morning on the bottom 1/8" of that base has defects on those layers im having the same problem with my ender 3v2 im very new to 3D printing and find your videos very helpfull Thanks Jimmy
Just got an Ender3 Max today. Easy to setup, but noises as hell fans, Noctua’s on order. Successful bed levelling but some slicer issues. Previous Ender 3 g-code works correctly but newly sliced code seems under extruded but first layer prints correct. Used Cura but will take a look at the Creality mix to see what’s wrong.
Be careful with noctuas if you use them for hotend fans. I have heard they do not move as much air and some have success while others have heat creep issues. If it for the main board or psu then you should be good to go!
Ender 3 v2 has great quality to good as high priced printers once tuned right. The downside is the amount of upgrades you have to do to print higher temp materials . And the reliability of the printer is not the best due to the frame not sturdy enough and rollers instead of linear bearings . More prone to bed level or gantry faults
I have been eyeing this device for a while. I got a Anet A8 in 2018 and everything about that thing has been painful and prints are still not great. I learned a lot with A8 but I just want something that can chug out quality prints reliably. Have you had any issues since this video?
Thanks for the summary. It is very helpful. I build model cars and would be using a printer only for that. Would you say this would be a good printer for my purposes? Thanks again and I have subscribed to your channel.
I'd love to see just how far you can go material-wise with an Ender 3 V2 or the BIQU B1. Just how exotic can one get before hotends need to be swapped or extruders be converted to direct-drive.
I hope there is a follow up on upgrading the V2 to its maximum potential.. for now I have the Anet A8M and thinking about moving to Prusa i3 mk3s+ ..as I want to print ASA/ABS/Nylon - but if your upgraded V2 can do it also..there is no reason to pay 3x the price..
I set up my Ender 3 V2 in January and a fresh download of CURA at the time already had the Ender3v2 profile. It makes me question how much due diligence has been put forth if these reviewers aren't seeing the Cura profile...
Great review! I just placed an order for one to add to my farm/collection, as Amazon Canada is having a pretty good deal now. About $245 US equivalent, shipped and no taxes, how could I say no. I do hope they provide a FW update for the name scrolling.
I have a feeling that it's not a Mean Well power supply, as Mean Well has replaced the voltage selector switch with automatic power level detection across all of their power supplies, correct? It looks like this printer might be good for a novice beginner who is looking to upgrade over time. That Godzilla print looks freakin' amazing. Props to the creator. My BigTree-Tech order finally arrived more than a month after I ordered it, so I can finally start drafting, building and installing some of the upgrades that I have planned. I wasn't comfortable creating a Marlin build for the Ender 5 Plus, as Creality wasn't willing to answer some questions about the source that they released. I can't use the Mosquito hot-end w/o making changes to the firmware for the maximum temperature and the thermistor. It is very frustrating trying to work with Creality, as they don't seem to understand that owners of their products buy to be modified, and that we need replacement parts. It's impossible to obtain more than 1/2 of parts that makeup the printer. I'm probably going to need to outsource a couple Nema 17 motor mounts that are identical to the one that holds the Y-axis 42-48 motor in place. I'm also trying to figure out an alternative for the limit switch assemblies, as they are unique to the Ender 5, and not available anywhere. Anywho, have a great weekend! Things are finally starting to look better.
I was not aware of them removing the switch on Meanwell psus. Was this fairly recent? Yeah I really do not think this is a bad machine and the feedback I have gotten from people that own it is primarily positive. Right! I love the model. Doesnt Creality have the Ender 5 plus firmware avasilable? What info where you looking to get that they didnt provide? Check out Tiny Machines. They are US based and carry quite a bit of spare parts for Creality machines. I have ordered steppers from them and x carriage mounts. Have an awesome weekend.
@@ModBotArmy I guess it depends upon the series. It looks like the LRS models do have the switch, while the RSP models do not. So it could be an LRS model that you have. The source that they released was for an older version of the firmware that is 2 releases behind the current. Even if I was able to get them to answer the questions, I was going to replace the MB anyway, so I changed my plans to do it earlier, rather than later. I checked out Tiny Machines 3D, and wasn't able to find the assemblies there either. I found most everything on RepRap.me, plus an alternate, so I placed an order with them. Hopefully I won't have to wait another month for those parts. I found a stepper motor bundle on Amazon that contains the Creality steppers for a pretty low price, and I purchased a couple of them. I'm going to start building a test box this weekend, so that I can test MBs with motors and switches outside of the printer. I also need to design the enclosure to mount the 7" display on my Ender 5 Plus. Have a GREAT weekend yourself!
@@ModBotArmy the Creality 4.2.7 board, wished I knew more about 3d printing at the time or I would have bought something like an Skr mini e3 for linear advance, live and learn I guess
I was thinking of buying the Ender 3 V2, but I caught a sale of a FLSUN QQ-S Pro for $10 more, so I got that instead since it prints much faster, and the rest being very similar. My advice is, don't buy full price, wait for a discount.
The E3V2 is ONLY worth it when you upgrade the firmware to the Jyersm fork. It fixes everything that was a problem. Even has OctoPrint host support and layer progress on the screen. Feels like a completely different printer with the new firmware.
@@ModBotArmy definitely worth it. Having the Octoprint support makes printing so much easier with the availability of the Print Status screen and the Tune Menu. The microstepping is so easy to use too. Then on top of that, the inclusion of ON SCREEN manual mesh leveling is a game changer. I was doing it through Octoprint before and it was a beast. Now it's as simple as doing it on the Pro. Makes buying a BLTouch completely worthless!
@@ModBotArmy It definitely has potential. So many new features, UBL, HS and more. Look into the ExtUI that seems to fix some of the serious issues with the scrren/DWWIN_SET cumbersome integration into Marlin. Much better now.
Adhesion really wasnt bad without gluestick. It is just sort of one of those things I do not necessarily required. I have also heard that as long as it is clean it sticks quite well.
Well, IMO the glass bed is a perfect upgrade from those uneven bullshits that they give away with stock Ender 3 and Ender 3 PRO. I have both of these and had to buy two new ultrabase style glasses since the original bed plates were just pure shit. It warped so much that I literally yeeted flex plate from E3Pro out of the window.
Its funny because that used to be my channel name. It actually has nothing to do with what most people think. When I was younger I always used to say thats dope! And thats where dopes came from. Also when I was younger I was very into street art (punk kid) and oner means a solo artist haha. I changed it a few years ago because of the confusion.
Why am i having a hard time with my printer? I print and it either has a near impossible time staying attached to board or something else. I just cant figure it out then during my print my ender 3 v2 ends up going to a different temp and bed temp and fan speed and everything so if its doing well the bed cools down and then lifts the whole board and ruins the whole thing.
@@ModBotArmy thank you. Honestly i got a replacement so we'll see how that goes. Otherwise I think I may have figured my problem. For some reason at 60c it wasnt hot enough bed temp so i raised it to 70c and it is working great now. 200c nozzle temp. Seems to work out pretty good. I also decided to do the glue stick trick and the difference that created was amazing.
I have the v2 and the Biqu B1. I absolutely love the B1 super clean prints. I also have a ender 6. I can get things to print on the 6 and the B1 but can't get shit to print on the v2.
@@ModBotArmy I have been. I enjoy putting them together as much as I enjoy printing on them. The quality is good and I appreciate the larger print area.
@@ModBotArmy My earlier reply I was half asleep. Of course those things would be an improvement over the ender 3 I expect you would like to know a little more detail. So while it has the same type of bed leveling as an ender 3 I have noticed that I did not have to level it as much as my v2. Hell I can't even get anything to stick with my v2 it's been sitting in limbo for weeks now. My favorite for detailed work was the B1 but on my last print the filament got stuck and engulfed my hotend fans and all. I have not had any issues like that with the ender 6. I don't know if maybe because it is a core xy and the buildplate is moving away from the hotend that it is less likely to have filament build up on the nozzle or being my third printer I have became better at getting a level bed and start with the nozzle placement. The touchscreen is really basic. From the main screen you have three options. Print / Temp / Settings. You have your auto temp settings under temp, and you have your motion and feed options under settings. Most of the stuff gives you a few options here and there. I did switch to the all metal hotend in which I have had a few issues with it printing but that is more due to feed rates and the all metal hotend. I also need to check some settings in cura for some z alignment issues that I didn't have before but I also recently imported the CHEP cura profiles. Most of the stuff I print is 100 % infill, it does seem to take less time printing than the ender 3 which is nice with what I do with it. It comes with the upgraded springs and the metal extruder which is nice as well as the enclosure. The one thing I did not like is that it has the ability to install a BLtouch, but the connector style to hit the board it connects to wants the same size connector that is on the BLtouch itself so a mini connector and sadly the one I bought is the one for the V2. That has been the extent of my experience with it. I found it was super easy to set up. You will have to run a micro usb from the mainboard up out of the bottom area in order to have a USB connection. IT wasn't a big deal to me though. It is weird that all their other printers use micro SD cards while this one uses a full size SD card. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask
@@SecondClassCitizen flip textured side face down, clean glass side with soap and water, wipe dry, take 70%-90% IPA (Isopropyl Alcohol), spray on while warm, then avoid touching the bed and redo the ipa clean before each print, you may still have issues with corner lifting which I'm still working to solve but you'll at least get repeatable prints
Edit: the two ender 3 pros we ordered came in. While they have the 32 bit 4.2.2 board, for some reason creality decided to put the "noisy" drivers in the pro and regular ender 3 boards. The displays are far better than the v2 however and I am able to enable things like babystepping and the bed leveling menus. The ender 3 pro is starting to ship with silent boards. I have two November 2020 built pros and they come with the silent board. I personally don't like the screen on the ender 3v2, jogging the machine is a pain and the interface isn't as polished as the reprap screens. For our print farm we decided to get more ender 3 pros since they come with the silent board anyways which was the big reason we bought two v2s earlier.
I have NEVER gotten the glass plate bed to stick. Supposedly it becomes "sticky" with heat and provides adhesive but it if does, it's never worked. Instead I flip it over and use a glue stick on the uncoated side.
Mine had the red power lead loose on the mainboard. I just had to tighten it but man I was frustrated thinking I got a lemon. If your power goes off and on check that lead. Other than that I have been enjoying it. Lithophanes are awesome!!!
I herd about the ender 3 v2 first and I was pretty set on buying it, but after hearing about the Biqu B1 I think it would be a better choice cause the Touchscreen, leds, duel fans, filament run out sensor, the better cable management taking use of a USB type C. Not to mention they made it convenient for bed leveling upgrade.
@@mal3k_xd it’s a clone so parts shouldn’t be an issue for the most part. And the community is great. You are right and nothing will keep me from being a part of it and make my own iterations of ideas for my Biqu B1.
My 9-year old grandson wants to print and design 3-D planes and rockets. Will this machine do that? Are there inexpensive programs or software to do this?
Got mine a year ago, maybe a year and a half? Its great though, few problems outside of my own learning how to level, but I got it perfect now and have no problems at all, printed a bunch of miniatures and they came out pretty well, and just recently printed a large combat helmet and gas mask for cosplay (FNV mojave ranger armor) and it did great on it with no problems ^^. As far as fan noise, it is a bit loud but I have it just 3ft from my bed and was able to sleep through the 3days it took to print the mask in one go. The UI and screen work well, its simple enough touch screen wouldnt really matter, but I do agree that the names need to show more for the files.
Thanks for the feedback. I had quite a few people say they are interested. I will be adding it to my list and making a video on it :) Have a great weekend.
I haven't set up mine yet but I already have a Wham Bam kit on order to give it a removable, flexible build plate. Now watch, I'll really love the glass and not want to use the plate. lol
I know im a bit late to the video but im relatively new to 3d printers but im just curious is it safe to have this printing over night? I heard that the previous ender 3 didn’t have thermal runaway protection and im unsure if this has it.
Bought this printer a few weeks ago as a complete noob. Been printing non stop since I got it. Legit the coolest thing I've owned
Those prints are unbelievable, I'm absolutely buying this printer. It convinced me in just one day of even considering to buy a printer.
Haha I have had it cranking out 8 hour prints for an ikea hack and it has been printing beautifully.
Lol same!
i am going to get one i am 13 turning 14 and me an dad are gonna split the price an then get it my mate did the same thing
he got a shit one tho
@@Toast_Boy1 YOO SAME DOOD!
Im brand new to 3D printing and just bought one of these new. Thanks for the thorough review. Learned a bunch.
Had this machine about a year now. Is it perfect? No, but replace the tube and a few small upgrades it has been running flawlessly. Love it.
What upgrades did you do?
I have a heavily modded ender 3 v2 and I'm just bought 2 Elagoo Neptune 2's because of the price. Print your own fan options and your GTG.
Nice summary. Agree, I don’t like the display. I also don’t like the larger plastic fan shroud. It’s more difficult to remove than standard Ender 3 and blocks access to the coupler if I need to remove it and the PTFE.
Thank you Chuck 🙌 Agreed, I do love how easy it is to access the hotend and coupler on the Ender 3 and Pro.
Can you share with me your settings in Cura? I am not getting the quality that I want and get a lot of missing layers.
CHEP, then what's a good 3D printer to buy if not this one?
@@edwardnihal248 some might say the V1!
Chep, i respect you a lot, as someone with anxiety i think you should not recommend the Ender 3 in any of its versions to ANYONE, this machine has made me hate 3d printing after a year
Yes would like to see the bed level touch system added.
Then add it.
trying to add it myself was the worst mod ive ever tried to do
@@auden_builds why?
It looks like there are a few others also interested. I am going to add it to my list to do :)
@@LukusMaxamus I consulted so many people on discord about it and they couldn't help me figure it out after 2 days of trying
I'll be 100% honest, a loud fan is a plus for me...
I use to live in an area for most my life that got up to 120°f regularly in summer, and I got an industrial fan as a result for my room to keep cool.
I used it so much overnight that even now that I live in a colder climate, I still keep it on overnight... Cause I can't relax, and go to sleep without the loud hum of the fan circulating the air.
So having another loud fan in my room honestly won't bother me, even if the estimated 50 db that the Ender 3 V2 has is way quieter then my Industrial Fan.
You from redding ca? Lol
I just got one of these, I had some issues with levelling the bed, but moving forwards now.. thanks for your video here, enjoyed listening to you talk about this printer...
same, printing my 1st benchy rn
I received my printer today. Gonna assemble it tomorrow! Thanks a lot for your video!
Biggest issue with the V2 is if you get one of the faulty 4.2.2 board which Creality still refuses to acknowledge and replace.
Probably needs more hot melt glue.
How does a faulty board look like? Like it doesen't do anything or what?
Very helpful, I was contemplating if I should get this or not, I think I will now.
And update? How's your experience been? I've been going through the comments schooling the simpletons because they just don't understand anything
How did it go?
Only thing i'd recommend new people with it do, or any new one of these do is what i eventually figured out and that's to push the feed tube in further down into the hot end, as it seems it's not set as deep as possible out the box and can cause many a issue like it did me.
Great video and yes for the video showing the BL Touch install/setup.
One of the videos I watched before I bought the v2, thanks for the help 🤙
I was told by this guy. Frankly built that this was arguably the best printer to start with and I will buy it very soon I am doing a LOT of 3D printing research
There are a lot of similar printers with slightly better and slightly worse specs. Alot of it comes down to what you want feature wise, what you want to spend, and if you plan on upgrading anything on it in the future. There is no denying it is a solid machine.
I have had one for a little over a year and it was my starting printer. Since I was just learning I spent A LOT of time in the slicer but now that I understand the slicer and have my settings it is great. I have very few print problems with it. One thing I do different is that I use the smooth glass side of the bed rather than the dimpled side. I just get better adhesion with it. If you haven’t got it just trust me when I say be patient with the slicer it will pay off and you will love it.
Man, I like your videos and your approach to stuff. I'm a new follower, and I just bought a Ender 3. If you could reorganize your old videos in some playlist it would be much easier to find them!
Welcome to the channel. I appreciate the input. I am terrible with playlists. Any recommendations as far as categories?
@@ModBotArmy maybe one playlist for all the videos related to the Ender 3, one playlist for resin printers, one playlist for reviews of upgrades and materials. It could be a beginning 😁
The Ender 3 was the machine I was going to get. Then they came out with the Anet A8 Plus and I got that one. I have been interested in 32 bit and was looking at the V2. After your video I have firmly decided in favor of the V2, thank you
Awesome! Most of the feedback I have seen in this video is positive from people that own this printer.
This is an under rated video for its amazing content!
I ended up upgrading mine to a BTT board as I thought the extruder stepper died after a direct drive upgrade (turns out it was just a cable so.. meh), but ended up also for the touchscreen with the simple Marlin reprap screen "emulator" and I did not regret it. That color screen is more of a hindrance than help, quite honestly... for those that don't know: these screens are separate little devices with their own firmware, meaning you lose a lot of flexibility the basic, monochrome pixely screens have, especially if you upgrade and compile Marlin yourself and want to do funkier things like sync to OctoPrint, use the Pause command and the like as these screens are fairly separate modules... so for example... on pause they just start beeping but you get no pop-up prompt to continue, etc. You can also not modify the menu structure, add new things like the Z offset wizard, or compile the firmware yourself etc.
I also really hate that bed glass, upgrading that to a flexible PEI sheet was truly a game-changer because I stopped struggling with first layer warping, etc.
It's also worth upgrading the Z axis to a dual rod setup to prevent droop. I myself installed a Micro Swiss direct drive / hot-end kit and with this set-up I'm pretty much completely satisfied with it --- I printed PLA at 100mm/s without any giant quality downgrades or print defects, bridging and overhangs are pretty on point, too. Even ran 2 day+ prints. I've printed PLA and PETG with not too many issues (petg needed some tuning, though) and i'm now venturing into flexibles.
Oh, and I also replaced the fans on it, the hot-end fan pretty much started dying after a month and a half and started making weird noises the moment it was started, kinda disappointing..
It's also worth compiling your own up-to-date customized Marlin builds.
You might as well just get another 3d printer at this point LOL
You definitely give some fantastic critiques and info. I just got one of these for my birthday this weekend as well as an Elegoo Mars mono.
Wow this and a Mars sounds like one hell of a birthday. Stoked for you I would be hyped.
Also thank you for the kind feedback.
What I want to know.. the E3V3 can be had for around $250 . Amazon currently has an Elegoo Neptune 2 in stock at $160. So is the E3V2 worth almost $100 more over the Elegoo. I know there is a bigger community and more secondary market support for the E3, but being that it is essentially a clone a lot of that will also be compatible with the Neptune2.
And if Elegoo will get their head screwed on right and get enough Neptunes out there the community support for it will pickup as well.
Would love to see a proper noctua upgrade video. There isn't really one for the v2 specifically.
Did mine upgrade last week...it was pain,but it's worth it.The nose level is really low compared to old fans...
I got mine about a month ago my first printer and Its so easy to use.
Awesome, definitely a solid machine to start with. I anticipate over the next year we will see more upgrades come out as well for that that want them.
I like how this guy actually got the printer before making a video. Real important and shows you actually care what you upload
That's a very useful review. The machine seems to be very good, specially for the price. I am doing some research in order to buy my first 3D printer and I'm leaning towards the Ender 3 V2. Do you think it would be easy to replace the loud fans?
Did you buy it? Are the fans easy to fix?
@@judeffr I ended up buying the biqu b1. It's a very similar printer, but it has some features that I thought were more interesting. The fans are also very loud and I've replaced them.
@@Felipeh999 what were those interesting features and how's it going honestly
@@Zafor-ium the Biqu B1 comes with better bed springs and a metal extruder, opposed to the plastic extruder on the Enders. So I've thought, if I'll have to expend a little extra on better springs and extruder anyways, why not get a printer that already comes with that? And apart from that, the Biqu B1 has a better integration with BL Touch and I really like the looks of a single USB C cable connecting to the print head. And there are LEDs, everything gets better with LEDs. lol
@@Felipeh999 ok ok, thanks alot. Likely will get that one then
Liked and Subscribed. Thanks for a great video. I just ordered this printer online and I am really looking forward to using it.
Hehe, I also like me some "sotrage space" in my 3D printer XD
Yoo that polyalchemy elixir filament looks amazing
Without a doubt one of my favorite PLAs especially if you are going for looks it is amazing.
That filament looks amazing where did you buy it?
I like and appreciate the review. It’s very well thought out, thorough, and well presented. That being said, DUDE, learn the word “an!”
I'm planning on buying my first 3D printer soon and this makes me really stoked to pick up this printer.
Wow that Vision bust looks incredible!
Nice video !! I am new in 3d printing but i have experience with electronics and programming
I have for a little while a ender 3 v2 and i got it with the 'silent board 4.2.2'!
I found out that in early V2's they shiped with 4.2.7 boards! I did some research and I found that 4.2.2
makes the stepper motors a bit hotter and not so quiet as they should also makes them to lose layers in
prints! Can u make a video about that issue if there is one in the first place! Greetings from Greece!
OMG. You are telling me that the SD had a video?
And I was going nuts looking for support on youtube :(
Great video. I agree, I think Creality needs to lower the price a bit to stay competitive with the competition. Would still love to see you do a video on the Voxelab Aquila, I dont have one, but I have talked to too many people who only have great things to say about it and it is an almost 1 to 1 clone of the Ender 3 v2 for quite a bit cheaper.
I just bought 6 of those during the most recent sale. Seemed like a no brainer choice over the V2. I've also only heard nothing but positive things about the machine so i'm very excited to jump in.
@@SaveTheSunF1R3x They keep going on sale for $160, if I didnt already have a small army of printers I would buy one. Voxelab is a Flashforge subbrand. It just seems like a much better option from everything I have seen over the Ender 3 V2.
Have been seeing these everywhere. So far only heard good things. Will see if I can get one in to do a review on and see how I feel it compares.
After months I can say I've never had to take something apart so much, in order for it work right. After my stock extruder split in half, I've had to fix something almost every week on this thing, it's getting pretty old.
From the other videos I've seen of this printer if you spray hair spray on the bed it'll hold the print well enough and if you let it cool to room ramp it'll actually "pop" the seal on its own so you won't need to use a scraper and risk damaging the glass bed.
Hi ModBot!
!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT I CALL A REVIEW !!!!!
NO GARBAGE TALK OR GOING AROUND AND AROUND BUT GETTING TO THE POINT!
- I love it -, you make me believe even stronger that this ender 3 v2 will be my Xmas present.
Thanks and keep on doing thinks the same way as you did!
Cheers,
Farid
:-]
Good review
Would like to see the BLT video
Thanks for sharing :-)
It seems like quite a few people are interested in the bltouch video so I will have to make it happen :)
Hey great video! Do you think its’s worth getting the v2 or the ender pro and just upgrading it? Or is it worth just getting the ender 5? I am an absolute noob and want to get my feet wet. I plan on printing some little things for my reef tank hobby and hey if i can sell a few things, i wouldn’t mind that at all. Your thoughts are appreciated!
Out of curiosity, what did you end up doing ? Buying the ender 3 v2 and upgrading it or just buying the ender 5 pro ? And did you feel it was the right decision?
I currently just have the ender 3 and I’m thinking about upgrading to this one cause it’s in my budget.
Long time user here. The sd Card reader randomly breakes, happened to a lot of people as well.
Good video, but is your modded Ender 3 better than the Ender 3 v2. If you had to keep just one of those two which would it be?
were did you download the figueres
PSA: Microcenter runs a promotion for this printer. only $99 with coupon. just got mine
Good Work Brother!
Nice detail
Great review. I own one and am planning on adding a bed leveler and would love to see a video on how you would do that.
I got mine last week and had the same issue with the x-axis tensioner. Nice to know I’m not the only one.
Haha I tried for quite a bit scratching my head before I said to myself this is bullshit! Then I saw the video and it all made sense. Definitely think that illustration in the guide needs some work.
I have an ender 3 pro. bought back in 2018. always printing about once or twice a week. not a single problem occured. the only thing that i noticed is the unit a tiny little bit louder now. after 1,5 years
I'm considering getting into printing but I had a question for the experts, what causes a print to look very... Line-y I guess? I see some filament prints that look pretty smooth to where I'm wondering if it's a resin print or not but then there's some that look like thin pieces of plastic stacked on each other. How do you get the smoother look?
Hi! I know this is a month old comment, but usually this is caused by an issue called "z-banding". There are plenty of guides on how to fix this depending on what printer you have. Hope this helps!
Could you do a silent fan upgrade on it? Mine has solent motors, but the fans are loud as frick
Did you end up doing the silent fan upgrade? I recently replaced all of mine, so nice and quiet now.
@@Channel-iu6de nah don't have enough money rn
I found some on Amazon for 7$
After owning the V2, I just rebuilt it with direct drive, 32 but board, and color touchscreen, and PEI Board and Raspberry Pi
The Ender 3 V2 is definitely worth its price, my friend has one and it is a very good and enjoyable printer, however, I have a Voxelab Aquila which is an Open Source clone of the V2 but has a better screen which is horizontal and the GUI is much better and at $179 so is the price
Are moat of the pieces interchangeable with the ender 3 on the Aquila?
That's the same screen, isn't it? Just has different firmware. I've read that people have flashed them with the Creality firmware and then converted everything to Jyersm firmware.
@@686Boards Yes they seem to be exactly the same
@@therising1 The Aquila seems crisper and faster although that could be down to firmware
Good morning on the bottom 1/8" of that base has defects on those layers im having the same problem with my ender 3v2 im very new to 3D printing and find your videos very helpfull Thanks Jimmy
Yeah, it was a case of the nozzle being a hair to close. It corrected when the infill started.
Just got an Ender3 Max today. Easy to setup, but noises as hell fans, Noctua’s on order. Successful bed levelling but some slicer issues. Previous Ender 3 g-code works correctly but newly sliced code seems under extruded but first layer prints correct. Used Cura but will take a look at the Creality mix to see what’s wrong.
Be careful with noctuas if you use them for hotend fans. I have heard they do not move as much air and some have success while others have heat creep issues. If it for the main board or psu then you should be good to go!
Ender 3 v2 has great quality to good as high priced printers once tuned right. The downside is the amount of upgrades you have to do to print higher temp materials . And the reliability of the printer is not the best due to the frame not sturdy enough and rollers instead of linear bearings . More prone to bed level or gantry faults
It should be pretty easy to add an all metal hotend for high temp. The extruder may be a different store if you want to do a direct drive.
The DWIN display code on Ender 3 V2 is solid garbage written by a script kiddie completing his sophomore project on a weekend.
Might have been a freshman.
I have been eyeing this device for a while. I got a Anet A8 in 2018 and everything about that thing has been painful and prints are still not great. I learned a lot with A8 but I just want something that can chug out quality prints reliably. Have you had any issues since this video?
Awesome review. Thanks
Thanks for the summary. It is very helpful. I build model cars and would be using a printer only for that. Would you say this would be a good printer for my purposes? Thanks again and I have subscribed to your channel.
Time-stamp would be amazing..but thanks for this video, I am thinking to enter the 3d printing world
Awesome vid. Would love to see that tutorial on the bltouch as I just put one on order for my v2
Thank you! Definitely something I will be doing.
I'd love to see just how far you can go material-wise with an Ender 3 V2 or the BIQU B1. Just how exotic can one get before hotends need to be swapped or extruders be converted to direct-drive.
I hope there is a follow up on upgrading the V2 to its maximum potential.. for now I have the Anet A8M and thinking about moving to Prusa i3 mk3s+ ..as I want to print ASA/ABS/Nylon - but if your upgraded V2 can do it also..there is no reason to pay 3x the price..
I set up my Ender 3 V2 in January and a fresh download of CURA at the time already had the Ender3v2 profile. It makes me question how much due diligence has been put forth if these reviewers aren't seeing the Cura profile...
No profile in my Cura latest version as of March.
@@ModBotArmy Weird... I wonder it it got pushed in by one of my mods or something. I'll throw it up on Github if people want to use it.
Thanks for the review. 👍
Thanks for watching!
Great review! I just placed an order for one to add to my farm/collection, as Amazon Canada is having a pretty good deal now. About $245 US equivalent, shipped and no taxes, how could I say no. I do hope they provide a FW update for the name scrolling.
I have a feeling that it's not a Mean Well power supply, as Mean Well has replaced the voltage selector switch with automatic power level detection across all of their power supplies, correct? It looks like this printer might be good for a novice beginner who is looking to upgrade over time. That Godzilla print looks freakin' amazing. Props to the creator.
My BigTree-Tech order finally arrived more than a month after I ordered it, so I can finally start drafting, building and installing some of the upgrades that I have planned. I wasn't comfortable creating a Marlin build for the Ender 5 Plus, as Creality wasn't willing to answer some questions about the source that they released. I can't use the Mosquito hot-end w/o making changes to the firmware for the maximum temperature and the thermistor.
It is very frustrating trying to work with Creality, as they don't seem to understand that owners of their products buy to be modified, and that we need replacement parts. It's impossible to obtain more than 1/2 of parts that makeup the printer. I'm probably going to need to outsource a couple Nema 17 motor mounts that are identical to the one that holds the Y-axis 42-48 motor in place. I'm also trying to figure out an alternative for the limit switch assemblies, as they are unique to the Ender 5, and not available anywhere.
Anywho, have a great weekend! Things are finally starting to look better.
I was not aware of them removing the switch on Meanwell psus. Was this fairly recent? Yeah I really do not think this is a bad machine and the feedback I have gotten from people that own it is primarily positive. Right! I love the model.
Doesnt Creality have the Ender 5 plus firmware avasilable? What info where you looking to get that they didnt provide? Check out Tiny Machines. They are US based and carry quite a bit of spare parts for Creality machines. I have ordered steppers from them and x carriage mounts.
Have an awesome weekend.
@@ModBotArmy I guess it depends upon the series. It looks like the LRS models do have the switch, while the RSP models do not. So it could be an LRS model that you have.
The source that they released was for an older version of the firmware that is 2 releases behind the current. Even if I was able to get them to answer the questions, I was going to replace the MB anyway, so I changed my plans to do it earlier, rather than later.
I checked out Tiny Machines 3D, and wasn't able to find the assemblies there either. I found most everything on RepRap.me, plus an alternate, so I placed an order with them. Hopefully I won't have to wait another month for those parts.
I found a stepper motor bundle on Amazon that contains the Creality steppers for a pretty low price, and I purchased a couple of them. I'm going to start building a test box this weekend, so that I can test MBs with motors and switches outside of the printer. I also need to design the enclosure to mount the 7" display on my Ender 5 Plus.
Have a GREAT weekend yourself!
Got one for Christmas and I love it now... Not before I replaced half of the stuff that broke like the faulty motherboard
Oh no, sorry to hear that. Did you replace it with another Creality board?
@@ModBotArmy the Creality 4.2.7 board, wished I knew more about 3d printing at the time or I would have bought something like an Skr mini e3 for linear advance, live and learn I guess
A video of the BL touch addition would be great.
I can’t wait to get one!
ordered 3 of them i already have a creator dual max hopefully can get them set up tonight lol
I was thinking of buying the Ender 3 V2, but I caught a sale of a FLSUN QQ-S Pro for $10 more, so I got that instead since it prints much faster, and the rest being very similar. My advice is, don't buy full price, wait for a discount.
hi modbot and subs, do you use a stick glue on your glass bed with pla and petg? nice vid thanks
It better be worth it. I just bought one and haven't set it up yet.
The E3V2 is ONLY worth it when you upgrade the firmware to the Jyersm fork. It fixes everything that was a problem. Even has OctoPrint host support and layer progress on the screen. Feels like a completely different printer with the new firmware.
I have to play around with some of these firmware mods. Sounds like an upcoming video.
@@ModBotArmy definitely worth it. Having the Octoprint support makes printing so much easier with the availability of the Print Status screen and the Tune Menu. The microstepping is so easy to use too.
Then on top of that, the inclusion of ON SCREEN manual mesh leveling is a game changer. I was doing it through Octoprint before and it was a beast. Now it's as simple as doing it on the Pro. Makes buying a BLTouch completely worthless!
@@ModBotArmy It definitely has potential. So many new features, UBL, HS and more. Look into the ExtUI that seems to fix some of the serious issues with the scrren/DWWIN_SET cumbersome integration into Marlin. Much better now.
I just use 99.9 ipa spray that i found a cvs. That stuff is a game changer. Keeps it clean and very nice and adhesive
Adhesion really wasnt bad without gluestick. It is just sort of one of those things I do not necessarily required. I have also heard that as long as it is clean it sticks quite well.
Well, IMO the glass bed is a perfect upgrade from those uneven bullshits that they give away with stock Ender 3 and Ender 3 PRO. I have both of these and had to buy two new ultrabase style glasses since the original bed plates were just pure shit. It warped so much that I literally yeeted flex plate from E3Pro out of the window.
great video thanks!
Your Twitter username makes me chuckle every time. Great video as always!
Dopestoner420 would be better
Its funny because that used to be my channel name. It actually has nothing to do with what most people think. When I was younger I always used to say thats dope! And thats where dopes came from. Also when I was younger I was very into street art (punk kid) and oner means a solo artist haha. I changed it a few years ago because of the confusion.
Why am i having a hard time with my printer? I print and it either has a near impossible time staying attached to board or something else. I just cant figure it out then during my print my ender 3 v2 ends up going to a different temp and bed temp and fan speed and everything so if its doing well the bed cools down and then lifts the whole board and ruins the whole thing.
Hmm, sounds like either a hardware issue or gcode thing. Adhesion is one thing but it sounds like you have more things going on then that.
@@ModBotArmy thank you. Honestly i got a replacement so we'll see how that goes. Otherwise I think I may have figured my problem. For some reason at 60c it wasnt hot enough bed temp so i raised it to 70c and it is working great now. 200c nozzle temp. Seems to work out pretty good. I also decided to do the glue stick trick and the difference that created was amazing.
I have the v2 and the Biqu B1. I absolutely love the B1 super clean prints. I also have a ender 6. I can get things to print on the 6 and the B1 but can't get shit to print on the v2.
I may be getting the Ender 6 in to test out. So you have been happy with it?
@@ModBotArmy I have been. I enjoy putting them together as much as I enjoy printing on them. The quality is good and I appreciate the larger print area.
@@ModBotArmy My earlier reply I was half asleep. Of course those things would be an improvement over the ender 3 I expect you would like to know a little more detail. So while it has the same type of bed leveling as an ender 3 I have noticed that I did not have to level it as much as my v2. Hell I can't even get anything to stick with my v2 it's been sitting in limbo for weeks now. My favorite for detailed work was the B1 but on my last print the filament got stuck and engulfed my hotend fans and all. I have not had any issues like that with the ender 6. I don't know if maybe because it is a core xy and the buildplate is moving away from the hotend that it is less likely to have filament build up on the nozzle or being my third printer I have became better at getting a level bed and start with the nozzle placement. The touchscreen is really basic. From the main screen you have three options. Print / Temp / Settings. You have your auto temp settings under temp, and you have your motion and feed options under settings. Most of the stuff gives you a few options here and there. I did switch to the all metal hotend in which I have had a few issues with it printing but that is more due to feed rates and the all metal hotend. I also need to check some settings in cura for some z alignment issues that I didn't have before but I also recently imported the CHEP cura profiles. Most of the stuff I print is 100 % infill, it does seem to take less time printing than the ender 3 which is nice with what I do with it. It comes with the upgraded springs and the metal extruder which is nice as well as the enclosure. The one thing I did not like is that it has the ability to install a BLtouch, but the connector style to hit the board it connects to wants the same size connector that is on the BLtouch itself so a mini connector and sadly the one I bought is the one for the V2. That has been the extent of my experience with it. I found it was super easy to set up. You will have to run a micro usb from the mainboard up out of the bottom area in order to have a USB connection. IT wasn't a big deal to me though. It is weird that all their other printers use micro SD cards while this one uses a full size SD card. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask
@@SecondClassCitizen flip textured side face down, clean glass side with soap and water, wipe dry, take 70%-90% IPA (Isopropyl Alcohol), spray on while warm, then avoid touching the bed and redo the ipa clean before each print, you may still have issues with corner lifting which I'm still working to solve but you'll at least get repeatable prints
*wipe clean ipa
I mean it’s $99….. it’s hard to argue with the price.
Will you get you hands and comment on the new Neo Ender 3 v2 ? Just ordered that instead v2. 🙃
Edit: the two ender 3 pros we ordered came in. While they have the 32 bit 4.2.2 board, for some reason creality decided to put the "noisy" drivers in the pro and regular ender 3 boards. The displays are far better than the v2 however and I am able to enable things like babystepping and the bed leveling menus.
The ender 3 pro is starting to ship with silent boards. I have two November 2020 built pros and they come with the silent board.
I personally don't like the screen on the ender 3v2, jogging the machine is a pain and the interface isn't as polished as the reprap screens.
For our print farm we decided to get more ender 3 pros since they come with the silent board anyways which was the big reason we bought two v2s earlier.
There are other firmwares for the screen.
Note to self, don't use those roller style spool holders. ;)
Haha I really like them and use them all the time. i just normally use them with 1kg spools. I still have no idea what the hell happened.
How strong is the plastic? Im looking to make small parts as opposed to Godzilla(which would be a pretty cool hood ornament)😂
I have NEVER gotten the glass plate bed to stick. Supposedly it becomes "sticky" with heat and provides adhesive but it if does, it's never worked. Instead I flip it over and use a glue stick on the uncoated side.
Mine had the red power lead loose on the mainboard. I just had to tighten it but man I was frustrated thinking I got a lemon. If your power goes off and on check that lead. Other than that I have been enjoying it. Lithophanes are awesome!!!
Yes show the upgrade video please.
So if the Ender 3 V2 and the BIQU B1 were the same price the Biqu would be the better buy??
I herd about the ender 3 v2 first and I was pretty set on buying it, but after hearing about the Biqu B1 I think it would be a better choice cause the Touchscreen, leds, duel fans, filament run out sensor, the better cable management taking use of a USB type C. Not to mention they made it convenient for bed leveling upgrade.
@@mal3k_xd it’s a clone so parts shouldn’t be an issue for the most part. And the community is great. You are right and nothing will keep me from being a part of it and make my own iterations of ideas for my Biqu B1.
I feel like I would go with the B1 at the same price. But that may not be the answer everyone gives. I love my B1
Get the B1, my v2 was great for a whole month, every week I have something new to fix now.
My 9-year old grandson wants to print and design 3-D planes and rockets. Will this machine do that? Are there inexpensive programs or software to do this?
Sotrage space 😀 ty for the review
Got mine a year ago, maybe a year and a half? Its great though, few problems outside of my own learning how to level, but I got it perfect now and have no problems at all, printed a bunch of miniatures and they came out pretty well, and just recently printed a large combat helmet and gas mask for cosplay (FNV mojave ranger armor) and it did great on it with no problems ^^. As far as fan noise, it is a bit loud but I have it just 3ft from my bed and was able to sleep through the 3days it took to print the mask in one go. The UI and screen work well, its simple enough touch screen wouldnt really matter, but I do agree that the names need to show more for the files.
Love the printer, got mine a few days ago, BUT after only 15 houers ( 4 prints) i allready got thermal runaway problems
A very informative and fair review thanks
Thank you for watching and the feedback.,
Yes I would love to see the bltouch upgrade video!
The BL touch auto bed leveling thingy
@@Plugbrooks There are dozens of videos on that topic already.
@@dangerous8333 There are, but he asked if anyone was interested in him making a video on it. I am interested in him making a video on it.
Thanks for the feedback. I had quite a few people say they are interested. I will be adding it to my list and making a video on it :) Have a great weekend.
I haven't set up mine yet but I already have a Wham Bam kit on order to give it a removable, flexible build plate. Now watch, I'll really love the glass and not want to use the plate. lol
That is a tough one but if it where me I still say flex plate all day.
Glass is the best from my experience. Easy to clean and prints pop easy with a 1” wood chisel and aquanet hairspray for PLA and PETG.
Hey, I'm thinking of getting into printing. Can you compare this to the Kingroon KP3S as well, please? Either way, subbed. LLAP
I know im a bit late to the video but im relatively new to 3d printers but im just curious is it safe to have this printing over night? I heard that the previous ender 3 didn’t have thermal runaway protection and im unsure if this has it.