Yes, I use frame protection!
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- Time to answer one of those questions that keep popping up. That is, if I use any frame protection for frame bags. And how I apply it.
Also a bit of a bonus POV clip at the end for those curious about some sweet Japanese mountain roads.
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3M™ Scotch™ Surface Protective Tape 331T
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* Hard time finding this on Amazon, but here's an alternative with backing tape. Otherwise, look for "Helicopter tape"
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:41 What Frame protection tape I use
2:17 Other items used for application
2:43 A typical application
3:44 A proper application
6:28 Final word
7:04 BONUS: Japanese forrest road POV
Music is from:
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My favorite bikes related RUclips creator!
Matte frame rider here: I use some clear sink/stovetop “caulk” tape from my local Daiso. Roughly $2 for enough to last many many trips. It it thicker so doesn’t look great, but it does the job well and peels off easy.
1,500~KM on my new gravel bike.. bumping and bashing around with a frame bag on all the time. Tape looks good, hasn’t worn through, and is cheap to replace as often as you want.
That bonus clip was amazing. I am so envious of the moutain roads you have. A big bike trip in Japan is definitely on my bucket list.
Instead of soap use isopropyl alchool, 1 part in 3 of water. It's used in ppf in automotive, since alchool will evaporate and doesn't stain the paint
it should be more diluted. at 10-15%
I've been using 3M PPF for more than a decade ago. It's a must for my bike frames, even without bags.
Bonus bits of descent at the end of a vlog never fail to 1/ be a pleasant surprise (short memory), and 2/ put my heart in my mouth (two way steep roads with patchy maintenance) Thanks ROJ 🕶
Love the POC shots man, please do a longer video in this style!!
Such a beautiful place! Amazing filming, editing and quality. Very pleasing to watch your content! Thank You!
No matter how rough/smooth the bag/straps are it will either scratch or polish the surface. The material (even the dust going in between) is not your enemy, it is the movement. Don't believe any bag manufacturer's claim. There are only three solutions: 1) cover the frame so movement happens on a sacrificial surface 2) get a brushed titanium frame 3) don't care
I've got a brushed Ti frame that's nearly ready to ship to me, I hadn't even thought about the scratch resistant properties
I just choose don't care 🤷♂️
@@WowRixter Ti does scratch but you can just rub it with a scotch brite pad to re-brush it!
@@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae very cool. Have you got a Ti bike by any chance?
@@WowRixter No not personally but I work somewhere that sells them
More bonus clips please. Love to see these beautiful roads
ordered my echo w/ 9200 2 months ago and your videos keep me sane😁
Thanks for the useful tip about a cheaper method for occasional taping of the frame. This is exactly what I needed for occasional use to carry extra camera gear. The road ride was beautiful, loved the golden hour light.
Always a great day when a new RoJ video appears in your feed
Another great Sunday morning, coffee and ROJ…but wait…something is missing. Learning a lot about frame tape application, but still, something is not right. Final word? … but the video is only half done? Could it be? Yes!!!! 7 minutes of descending bliss! Balance has been restored! Thanks for posting and, as always, the finest production quality I have found!
I went to my local tint/audio car place and picked up some automotive paint protection film for free. Then headed over to Harbor Freight and picked up some "putty spreaders" for around $4 USD. I used the putty spreaders as a squeegee. I used the paper that came with some shimano component to cut templates, then transferred that to the protection film. Cleaned frame with isopropyl alcohol and applied film with soapy water spray. It's working well and my frame is a matte finish. I applied it to the underside of the downtube and wrapped both chainstays.
Always a pleasant surprise to see a RoJ video!
I'm really not a "bag on bike" person, but Just Love your vídeos... they're Just art! Thanks for the content
I have been using black self fusing tape for three years now on my black matt frame. It has no glue, it sticks to itself, lots of "meat" to wear out, seconds to remove it. Just wrap it around where the loops of bags touch. I only use bags when I am bike packing, so I remove them when I don't need them.
Great video, I use matt/satin clear tape from 3M. Its a bit thick and harder to make curve, but with the soap/water and a little heat or sunlight and it goes on great.
I use to do some descend from the Mountains in Gunma ken and the most I fear wasn't the curves but the little leaves in the route during this season coz as insignificant that they look can finish you at that speed ! Great bonus clip
More bonus content like this please!
Greetings from Thailand. I enjoy your videos. Yes, moss on the road is scary- ride safe!
lucky man, what a road to ride on!!! thanks
Thanks for the beautiful descent! Those narrow roads at speed are always a little hairy!
I LOVE the color. I've got a very similar color on my bike as well, stock. Very nice! :)
I just got a new frame and forks, warranty.
First ride to make sure all was good.
Wash frame, polish key areas then apply 2 coats of ceramic coating to the whole bike.
Then apply small patches of plastic protection to help the more prone areas, under crown of front forks, under the top of the rear stays, under bottom bracket, underside of down tube plus a few other little bits.
I can see mine but don't mind too much as I know that it's going a good job.
Like watching your stories. Good content and entertainment.
Love the cinematography!
Came for the frame protection, stayed for the bonus descent
A few years back, got my matt blue bike completely wrapped by a professional. Still looks great and has protected the bike on and off road. No wear from bike bags or cables:)
#Recommended
#extraweight :(
@@kargi42 Lol - forgot about that! Now I'm sad :,((
So, just like my carbon footprint, I now need to offset my bike 'wrap print' by shaving off some weight.
I know, shaving my balls should do it :)
#Baller
Like a full full wrap? Or just those bike armour things for the most likely?
@@_driane A made to measure wrap for frame and fork using Xpel Stealth - proper so called 'self healing' stuff. V.nice!
+1 for the bonus
the Allied Echo is one sweet bike. I didn't know about them until you got one.
I have a matt finish santa cruz Hightower and a gloss stigmata. Both invisd over four years ago and both still look new. 15k miles on the stigmata 👌
More of your ride clips next time . I loved it. Also have you tried clear vinyl ?I.e same stuff they use on cars. Vinyl wraps
Bet it would work just as well.
Cheers!
Awesome! More riding vids please T!
Great pov segment! It must have been a lot of work, editing out all the disc rubbing noise on such a long segment! ;) it sounds like my rim brakes bike! Kudo for that! The landscape looks great! Thanks for sharing your ride!
This type of tape, or even thicker varieties, are slightly porous and will leak air. So if you apply a piece of tape anywhere even without water, if the bubbles are not excessively big, they will disappear in a couple of days as the air leaks out. This is of course irrelevant in your case as you anyway remove the tape after every ride, but may be useful for someone who doesn't have the time to do it that often. Also, a normal hair dryer (not a hot air gun which could possibly damage something) usually softens the tape enough to make it stretchy and conform to bends in the frame. Just my two tips.
I have a matt black frame and I use black electical tape its a bit satin so it almost matches the frame, easy to apply and when you remove it there is almost no adhisive left on the frame. used it for the last 4 years on my 4 week bickpacking trips, on the steerer tube I put on some extra layers because the front bag move a bit more then frame/toptube bags
Beautiful treacherous road ✨
I used to do the soapy water + tape trick to make a screen protector for my ipod. Also that POV was silky smooth
useful tips Mr ROJ
I love the frame 🔥, I respect how u love paying attention at details, but if it was me i would leave it without, I mean scratch make good memories lol 😂, I can tell u every moment in every scratch in my bike
Nice to see soap and water used these invisaframe pros using baby oil and water! Yeah wouldn't recommend that it'll leave colourful oil rings under the film I'd have thought on gloss type best with the old window tint technique like this here, always works perfect! Id use a hairdryer to get it into bends and get the backing adhesive recharged kinda thing it'll stick good
The song at the start reminded me of Narcos theme song.
Also, that road at the end is SO beautiful!
New viewer after @Trace Velo plugged you. Very informative but I liked the bonus clip most! Safa Brian-esque although next time you might want to do a few more runs!
That downhill 💯💯
Nice ride!
Literally just finished wrapping m,y brand new domane yesterday. I put it on every corner of the bike, I rather have clear film than scratches. Btw, most expensive sports cars get a paint protection film to keep it from getting rock chips. Most just do the front bumper and headlights but some go as far as wrapping the entire hood and lower part of the doors.
Lastly, you should give ceramic coatings a try, I ceramic coat all by cars/bikes and all I need to wash them is a hose.
I always install frame protection on my bikes, I use a matte 3M contact film and also a glossy one.
Maybe there’s a 100M videos on the subject but I’ve never watched one and I’m interested in your take on it. Also knowing that you’ll do the subject matter justice and that you’ll do a 10x better job on it doesn’t hurt.
yes!
My wrapping skills are on par with yours...
If you get a job , calle I need one 😜👍😁😁
I have a Matt black bike. I just use Matt black vinyl wrap and I don't need to worry about removing it or anything. I just replace it once a month. And it's water proof as well
Interesting.. what product do you use?
Sorry if I'm late. I dont really know. I just searched "Matt black vinyl wrap".
For the complex curves, and to get the tape to stretch, a hairdryer is fantastic. Heat the tape and it will conform.
Awesome thumbnail
Not interested in protection at all, but your vids I love to watch at any time. Well made, even the boring subjects are interesting 👌
Cheers mate!
Leg warmers over bibs……such a free spirit 😎
I would never! :)
Would love to know what kinda of speeds you were hitting on that downhill. Thanks for all the videos. I like them all.
I have a matte black anodised aluminium frame, shiny protective tape is veeery obvious on it. I just use black insulating tape under each bag strap. Very easy to apply and to peal off. I would probably use the same method for a painted frame, since the tape anyway only covers the immediate area of the straps.
Totally understand why you remove the tape when not riding with bags. Au naturel is so much more liberating!
I would definitely going for the long term application, as the risk of harming the paint with the scissors or knifes through the ever repeating process of application is increasing a lot. Better to have a slightly visible permatent protection (which you can renew if needed) as having a permanent scratched frame because of one moment not paying too much attention on these various repeatings throughout the year.
Excelent outro.
Ayyy just got back from a long ride and like 15 leg cramps lol. I'll enjoy this while I lie down and die
I wish I would've known to do this on my bike. The paint job on my seatpost is almost all gone from my saddlebag.
I ve got a matte Giant TCR: Anyone got recommendations for tape that works well on matte finish? it is gunmetal grey, so black tape doesnt look good
i love where i live but it's as flat as can be. those japanese mountain clips make me dream!
What camera setup do you use for the pov shots?
great video! definitely going to give it another watch before I apply protection to my frame
unrelated - what gloves do you use? I've been looking for a pair of more form-fitting long-fingered gloves and those look like they might fit the bill!
Giro DND gloves
Cheers!
wet leaves, very dodgy, thanks man Japan looks awsome
Nice video. I like to recomend using paint protection film instead. It is a little more thicker and also the glue is way more safer when pulling out at the end of the day
You ride in Japan,cool!
Invis I have on my bikes but can be a faff to fit.
Great content! As a non roadie I love your style and wit of your videos! (When will you do the obligatory Q&A? 100k?. Would love to know of your background/origin) - Peace from Austria
Cheers mate!
I don’t really share anything outside of my “cycling life”. But I happily answer any questions you have regarding my cycling :)
This channel is just a hobby, so sub celebrations and q&s’s don’t really interest me at all. Still appreciate everyone who spends tier valuable time watching my videos, if you get something useful out of it that’s way more important than sub and view numbers.
Thanks again!
@@ridesofjapan I actually miss your livestreams
I am going to be in Japan for a work related event. Do you have suggestions where I could get my hands on the 3M 331T tape in Osaka? Some chain of shops for example. Thanks a lot!
Man you would always trash me on descents. Just watching that I had a few oooh moments on the corners. A little bit of moisture or wet leaves and I am super nervous.
Otherwise, your paint is gorgeous. You reminds and the new bike have made me want some sparkly tape after being Matt for years and years.
Great video as always! Which camera did you use for the POV video?
DJI pocket2
Was that decent and climb just north of Ogose near the Tofu factory/Tokigawa area? Miss on mountain roads always scares the crap out of me.
Tokigawa yes, tofu factory? I have no clue :)
Why you dont use anchor bike?
Great video, and thanks for the bonus ride clip 👍😎
What microphone are using? Or is that just part of the camera (on your chest mount)?
DJI pocket 2 Bluetooth mic
My best friend owns a car wrapping and windows tinting business. Came to his shop to buy left over scrapped clear bra from his customers’ cars. Instead of selling it to me, he wrapped the bike for free. The entire bike frame looked marvelous . Took his ass out to a strip joint to return the favor.
Being a weight weeney, are you happy with the added weight of the tape?
Helicopter tape. Only a couple dollars. It was invented to protect the leading edge of helicopter propeller blades.
Great video. It's easier than I thought. I'm only planning on putting it on the underside of my downtube. BTW are you getting the FC-R9200-P crankset?!? Can't wait to see a review
god no! You know how heavy that thing is? 😜
@@ridesofjapan I but I priced out an SRM/THM crankset and wasn't convinced that it's a great solution
would you recommend a product to wrap the front section of my super white cycling shoes ?
Sorry, can’t help you there
Is there a video explaining the reasons for the switch to the Allied from the Open?
ruclips.net/video/stgvc_zpjq4/видео.html
hairdryer would help to stretch this tape in tricky sections.
Does the total internal routing affect your braking? how is it feel when compared with the OPEN U.P.?
Braking is exactly the same, hydraulic brakes works just as good independent on how they are routed. Mechanical brakes will be impacted by tight bends though.
what gloves are you wearing in the bonus clip?
Giro DND gloves
👍
GOMU !!! yes, keshigomu and gomu are important for juveniles in Japan society
After watching that descent with what appeared to be wet leaves on the road I decided I needed some protection
You didn't weigh the amount of tape used.
I use Roj style bublles, anyway it is covered by bags. I remove tape ever year and add new.
I should make a sticker with printed “RoJ bubbles” 😂
There is also tape that only sticks to itself. Ideal for this kind of temporary protection.
Pretty mush what this 3m 331 is
I can't seem to find 3M 331T for sale online. Any links in the US?
Don’t get hung up of that exact tape, any clear protection tape, helicopter tape etc etc will do the job fine.
Always wear protection, kids.
Good morning ser ride safe God bless
What's the 3M tape like for peeling off?
It comes off the same way you peel off a screen protector. Very satisfying and no residue.
Man! How i find u in strava? To folow your rides! Thanks bro!!
Link on the channel page
Any recommendations for an 3M 331T alternative? I can't seem to get my hands on it here in Europe. Thanks!
Did you find anything ? I have hard time finding something similar in Canada too….
@@peters8504 I used the 3M 8591 which I bought through r2-bike. Not quite similar and probably not intended for single-ride usage, but worked well for me.