What a FABULOUS episode! Thank you for featuring Professor Gaetano Cipolla. So interesting-- would love to hear more from him. Also, thank you for the sharing what is happening in Sicily as regards to Ukraine, gas, wheat etc. On another subject altogether, apparently the new movie of 'Cyrano' was filmed in Noto. I haven't seen it yet (as I really like the version with Gérard Depardieu) but I plan to see it soon just to see Noto again. Lavoriamo e preghiamo per la pace nel mondo.
thoroughly enjoyed this thank you, an interesting thing is that back in the day italy used to have national service, like in my father's era, but many years ago it was made no longer mandatory, and where as previously anyone could join the army, it then became that you had to be quite fit and have goid education and qualifications to join the army as it is quite a good and secure career to be in , i was told this by a friend of mine who lives in Puglia and is in the Italian army and an aeroplane engineer
Very interesting discussion of the Arab and Greek influence/shaping of Sicily (and, of course, much of the Southern part of Italy). As for Ukraine, my heart if breaking for my friends and the people of Ukraine. I spent 2 years there "05-'07 in the Peace Corps. Such long suffering, but tough, and lovely people.
Very well put together video! My family took DNA test and found significant amount of Greek. Small amount of Middle East DNA from Phoenician in single digit percentage. Interesting history and love learning more from this channel.
Fascinating aspects of history. I would like to have heard more about the indigenous Italic tribes of Sicily and what became of them as in the case of the battle at Morgantina.
I would say that the Greeks had 80% influence of southern Italy magna grecia both calabria and Sicily , we are so similar especially genetically and our physical characteristics 🇬🇷
AL and Eszter...i have a question. You mentioned that the Ukrainians are arriving in Italy. I they being vetted as far as Covid restrictions and mandates??? Are they following the same guidelines for foreign people entering the country...just curious
You may say they ancient Greeks that colonised Sicily or were born in Sicily became Sicilian but the true fact is that their heitage was Greek and you can never change your heritage from where you originally came from..Lots of modern immigrants are born in other countries today but your heritage remains the same if your parent hood is from your own nationality.. If a Dog is born in a stable that doesn't make it horse...
Correct. Of course Sicilians would have an interest in creating their own identity and retroactively applying it to their ancestors but there is no question that the Sicilian Greeks of Antiquity, besides actually being ethnically Greek regardless where they were born, very much also identified as Greek. Archimedes didn't speak "Sicilian". He spoke Greek. Also the comment that Sicilian Greeks contributed as much to Greece as they got is totally untrue. Name me three famous philosophers from Sicily. Or three great writers. Besides Archimedes who can you name at all that stands next to Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Euripides, Aristophanes, Thucydides, Thales, Xenophon and the like? Not that it matters, since they were all, as I said, Greek.
Al, do you know if Sicily will accept any the Ukrainian refugees? My aunt said there are plenty of empty apartments in Florida(Siracusa). Stand with Ukraine, always.......
He is wrong when he says that the Sicilians said they were not Greeks but Sicilians. There are two words for the Greeks in Greek: one is 'Elladitis,' which means Greek from Greece, and the other is 'Ellin' or 'Ellinas,' which can be a Greek from all over the world. The Sicilians were not 'Elladites' but they were 'Ellines,' and they called themselves 'Ellines' (Greeks), and they attended the Olympic Games, which were exclusive to the Greeks. The biggest example was the famous athlete Milos from Crotona , Tisandros of Naxos, Astylos of Croton (he represented Syracuse and won multiple Olympic victories in running in the early 5th century BC) and many others
Hey Al....i just found this in my saved links.. Your really going to like this in case you never read. Southern-Italian Americans are an ‘a-historical people’. Near seventeen million Americans of southern Italian descent have become a ‘history-less people’ forced to define themselves culturally in terms of ‘food’, because the history of the Italian people south of Rome, unlike many other ethnic/nation groups in America, is virtually non-existent in the American education system. University Italian Studies programs, for example, are limited to Renaissance studies and Italian American Studies programs are limited to post-Ellis Island largely nostalgic hiSTORYs with heavy emphasis on Italian American fiction and literature. The Elymian Sicilians are a quintessential example of the lost history of southern-Italian Americana. The Elymians are a fascinating and thought provoking people with significant implications for Italian and European history, and especially meaningful to millions of Sicilian-Americans. As this blog has documented in some detail, highly qualified classical scholars have brought forth significant bodies of evidence showing that Elymians (not Greeks) were the people described in the Odyssey, they were colonizers of Liguria and they may very well have been the founders of Rome (please see list of six links at end of this article). Savor the delicious irony: the “Sicilian-SCANDINAVIAN Archaeological Project” does archeological research in western Sicily (www.sciencecentral.com/site/441769). One wonders how may Sicilian descendants live in Scandinavia? In short, you would never know it by looking at Italian Studies curriculums in American universities but, believe it or not, there is much more to Sicilian culture than ‘pizza-crust-thick’ and ‘Hollywood-mafia-shtick’.it.....bloggers.iitaly.org/bloggers/36201/mysterious-west-sicily-elymians-trojan-refugees-odyssey-women-ligurian-colonizers-rom
I know the 2 of you don't like to make political comments on your show. But, kudoos to the 2 of you for making those humanitarian comments in behalf of the Ukrainian people. Al, I guess you did learn something from this social worker. And, by the way, Al wouldn't you love one of those yatchs? If you get one, I will definitely come to Sicily (even though I don't like traveling) for a ride.
Love you 2 ! I hope to be back in the province of Agrigento as soon as these idiotic politicians in Canada take out the "no boarding/flights " for Canadians that are not vaccinated (even if showing a negative PCR test !!! ) Love Sicilia ! Ciao
You may also enjoy this video about Sicily's first settlers: ruclips.net/video/B_QFI_iraq4/видео.html
What a FABULOUS episode! Thank you for featuring Professor Gaetano Cipolla. So interesting-- would love to hear more from him.
Also, thank you for the sharing what is happening in Sicily as regards to Ukraine, gas, wheat etc.
On another subject altogether, apparently the new movie of 'Cyrano' was filmed in Noto. I haven't seen it yet (as I really like the version with Gérard Depardieu) but I plan to see it soon just to see Noto again.
Lavoriamo e preghiamo per la pace nel mondo.
Our pleasure!
thoroughly enjoyed this thank you,
an interesting thing is that back in the day italy used to have national service, like in my father's era, but many years ago it was made no longer mandatory, and where as previously anyone could join the army, it then became that you had to be quite fit and have goid education and qualifications to join the army as it is quite a good and secure career to be in , i was told this by a friend of mine who lives in Puglia and is in the Italian army and an aeroplane engineer
Very interesting discussion of the Arab and Greek influence/shaping of Sicily (and, of course, much of the Southern part of Italy). As for Ukraine, my heart if breaking for my friends and the people of Ukraine. I spent 2 years there "05-'07 in the Peace Corps. Such long suffering, but tough, and lovely people.
Thank you Marsha! Yes great people!!
Awesome Guys!!! I'd love to listen to the 2 professors you've had on, Prof. Ferrari and Prof. Chippolla discuss Sicily past, present and future!
Great idea !
Wonderful history overview thanks for sharing !
Thank you !
Very well put together video! My family took DNA test and found significant amount of Greek. Small amount of Middle East DNA from Phoenician in single digit percentage. Interesting history and love learning more from this channel.
What part of Sicily did they come from?
Thank you so much! Phoenician were some of the earliest settlers so your DNA makes sense !
how do you know it was Phoenician?
@@thomaszaccone3960 My father from Palermo and my mother from Messina.
@@manitheman0806 We took a DNA test
Prayers to Ukraine and all of the world. Gaetano thank you for sharing your knowledge very interesting, Grazie Alfred & Eszter ❤ Buona Domenica
Thank you Maria!
Great video!!! Where did you film this interview?
Giardini Naxos hotel
@@EszterVajda it was beautiful ❤️
Is the hotel still open? It looks awesome.
Yes I believe so.
Fascinating aspects of history. I would like to have heard more about the indigenous Italic tribes of Sicily and what became of them as in the case of the battle at Morgantina.
AL, just out of curiosity, those shutters behind you are painted in "fenway green". Am I right? GO SOX
Yes! My subliminal message! Go Sox!
:)
Tuned in for the first time today. Are you 2 from New York?
Boston
I would say that the Greeks had 80% influence of southern Italy magna grecia both calabria and Sicily , we are so similar especially genetically and our physical characteristics 🇬🇷
I’m here!!
Ciao Bedda!
AL and Eszter...i have a question. You mentioned that the Ukrainians are arriving in Italy. I they being vetted as far as Covid restrictions and mandates??? Are they following the same guidelines for foreign people entering the country...just curious
All are being tested and offered vaccines if needed!
You may say they ancient Greeks that colonised Sicily or were born in Sicily became Sicilian but the true fact is that their heitage was Greek and you can never change your heritage from where you originally came from..Lots of modern immigrants are born in other countries today but your heritage remains the same if your parent hood is from your own nationality..
If a Dog is born in a stable that doesn't make it horse...
Correct. Of course Sicilians would have an interest in creating their own identity and retroactively applying it to their ancestors but there is no question that the Sicilian Greeks of Antiquity, besides actually being ethnically Greek regardless where they were born, very much also identified as Greek. Archimedes didn't speak "Sicilian". He spoke Greek.
Also the comment that Sicilian Greeks contributed as much to Greece as they got is totally untrue. Name me three famous philosophers from Sicily. Or three great writers. Besides Archimedes who can you name at all that stands next to Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Euripides, Aristophanes, Thucydides, Thales, Xenophon and the like? Not that it matters, since they were all, as I said, Greek.
Al, do you know if Sicily will accept any the Ukrainian refugees? My aunt said there are plenty of empty apartments in Florida(Siracusa).
Stand with Ukraine, always.......
This is Eszter, YES they are already arriving into Italy.
Prayers go out to all those in and those helping the people of the Ukraine
Amen!
Very interesting'
I love Esters short boy’s hair cuts really really sharp looking get another soon
Thank you!!
Ciao a tutti. Buona Domenica.
Ciao!
He is wrong when he says that the Sicilians said they were not Greeks but Sicilians. There are two words for the Greeks in Greek: one is 'Elladitis,' which means Greek from Greece, and the other is 'Ellin' or 'Ellinas,' which can be a Greek from all over the world. The Sicilians were not 'Elladites' but they were 'Ellines,' and they called themselves 'Ellines' (Greeks), and they attended the Olympic Games, which were exclusive to the Greeks. The biggest example was the famous athlete Milos from Crotona , Tisandros of Naxos, Astylos of Croton (he represented Syracuse and won multiple Olympic victories in running in the early 5th century BC) and many others
Thank you for this insightful comment.
I'm here you lucky people 😂! Buongiorno Tutti!!!!
Ciao !!
Buona Domenica!! Love your videos...I'm here too!! Love the story of how Important Sicilians are in the Greek culture. Yes let's Pray for Ucraine! 😥❤️
Thank you !
The first where the Iberian people called the sicani
❤️🌹 love ever for my feat fryend🌹❤️, buonasera❤️.
Thank you!
Sambuca Sicilians look Arab not full bit u can see it also the first inhabitants to come to Sicily where the sicani from Spain
Hey Al....i just found this in my saved links.. Your really going to like this in case you never read. Southern-Italian Americans are an ‘a-historical people’. Near seventeen million Americans of southern Italian descent have become a ‘history-less people’ forced to define themselves culturally in terms of ‘food’, because the history of the Italian people south of Rome, unlike many other ethnic/nation groups in America, is virtually non-existent in the American education system. University Italian Studies programs, for example, are limited to Renaissance studies and Italian American Studies programs are limited to post-Ellis Island largely nostalgic hiSTORYs with heavy emphasis on Italian American fiction and literature. The Elymian Sicilians are a quintessential example of the lost history of southern-Italian Americana. The Elymians are a fascinating and thought provoking people with significant implications for Italian and European history, and especially meaningful to millions of Sicilian-Americans. As this blog has documented in some detail, highly qualified classical scholars have brought forth significant bodies of evidence showing that Elymians (not Greeks) were the people described in the Odyssey, they were colonizers of Liguria and they may very well have been the founders of Rome (please see list of six links at end of this article). Savor the delicious irony: the “Sicilian-SCANDINAVIAN Archaeological Project” does archeological research in western Sicily (www.sciencecentral.com/site/441769). One wonders how may Sicilian descendants live in Scandinavia? In short, you would never know it by looking at Italian Studies curriculums in American universities but, believe it or not, there is much more to Sicilian culture than ‘pizza-crust-thick’ and ‘Hollywood-mafia-shtick’.it.....bloggers.iitaly.org/bloggers/36201/mysterious-west-sicily-elymians-trojan-refugees-odyssey-women-ligurian-colonizers-rom
Thank you for this thoughtful post. Will look into these articles. We spoke about the Elymians a bit here : ruclips.net/video/B_QFI_iraq4/видео.html
I tried to copy and paste you great comment to mu cousins
Greeks!
I know the 2 of you don't like to make political comments on your show. But, kudoos to the 2 of you for making those humanitarian comments in behalf of the Ukrainian people. Al, I guess you did learn something from this social worker. And, by the way, Al wouldn't you love one of those yatchs? If you get one, I will definitely come to Sicily (even though I don't like traveling) for a ride.
Thank you Linda!
Greeks were there for 1200 years what did you expect
Did that professor just say the Arabs came in 827 before Christ!???
Arabs cams 827 AD !
Sicilian people ara White Arabs, Specific from Banu Tamim
Love you 2 ! I hope to be back in the province of Agrigento as soon as these idiotic politicians in Canada take out the "no boarding/flights " for Canadians that are not vaccinated (even if showing a negative PCR test !!! ) Love Sicilia ! Ciao
Thank you!