Tai Chi for self defence 001

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июл 2012
  • Tai Chi for Self Defence, this is a short clip on the 'Opening Move' recorded at a seminar in June 2012 - for a longer 2022 video have a look at: • Tai Chi for Fighting /...
    The full 2012 multiple video training course is now available as part of our Tai Chi training Program - www.taichitraining.pro
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  • @FightingOtter
    @FightingOtter 9 месяцев назад +3

    One technique defeats a thousand.

  • @daibando65
    @daibando65 2 года назад +7

    A refreshing change to see I have been fortunate in that my teacher always taught application and form together and I feel understanding the application improves the form

  • @Columbus1152
    @Columbus1152 4 года назад +14

    I'm really surprised at the significant number of negative comments to your video, especially by so called practitioners of the martial arts. I've been a student of the martial arts for many years, Tai Chi obviously has it's roots in the ancient form of combat techniques, so it would be difficult to challenge it's authenticity. Effectiveness comes from physical training, sparring and practice, and understanding of combat dynamics, if you miss this point, you have not achieved mastery of your art no matter what it is. I am a recent student of Tai Chi, having trained in Karate and doing endless hours of kata or reacting to sparring matches, one would wonder how the slow and careful movements of Tai Chi form would be a defensive asset. I practice Tai Chi from a self defense mindset, I can feel my current body making each movement as if I was using the technique in an encounter, the dynamics of re-directing an opponent much stronger than me and my physical limitations as a 68 year old. Some other people in our class just enjoy the movement and beauty of the form, they're using their bodies and minds which improves their quality of their lives. So how much do I trust Tai Chi as an effective self defense technique? As I grow older, I am more vulnerable against younger and stronger attackers, if all I have is my Tai Chi training to rely on and I react in a way that buys me an exit to get out of the situation, that's all I can ask for.

  • @happygeezer1872
    @happygeezer1872 5 лет назад +5

    Exactly!! These are the things I try to pass on to my students. We move in very much the same way in terms of heavy elbows and soft knees and downward body weight. Perfect.

  • @lsporter88
    @lsporter88 4 года назад +6

    You're alot more dangerous than you look. I'm very impressed with the quality of your energy. You don't strike me as the least bit mean or impatient. Cheers.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад +4

      Hello Leslie, thank you. I have loved the martial arts (and Tai Chi in particular) for nearly 50 years - I think maybe it's easier to be 'up beat' when you enjoy something. :)

  • @randommandem9801
    @randommandem9801 2 года назад +1

    Did a bit in prison liked it am in the south west thinking of maybe starting to do it again

  • @ECS1022
    @ECS1022 10 лет назад +4

    Keep it going on..
    you are on the right direction..
    Good video,

  • @irvingmarquez1106
    @irvingmarquez1106 Год назад +1

    Excellent video great sifu!!!

  • @DavidCruz-wz8hb
    @DavidCruz-wz8hb 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this video

  • @RobertAgarHutton
    @RobertAgarHutton  8 лет назад +3

    Leave a comment if there is any scenario or attack that you would like to see a Tai Chi for self defence solution to... I am getting ready to shoot some more videos in early 2016...

    • @alventan1594
      @alventan1594 5 лет назад +1

      Tai Chi is very good for self defence eventai chi is slow motion ,but very guite usefull, i tought tai chi just prevalent in chinese,i did not expert prevalent in foreign as well, support you.

    • @ChristophTungersleben
      @ChristophTungersleben 4 года назад

      to clarify maya

  • @shujiling213
    @shujiling213 3 года назад +1

    awesome

  • @contatocefip8627
    @contatocefip8627 4 года назад +1

    excelente!

  • @lowkinwan
    @lowkinwan 7 лет назад +1

    excellent lesson sifu

  • @sugelanren
    @sugelanren 11 лет назад +7

    I have used it on the street in my younger days. I don't want to generalise, but Tai chi players "Tend" to be non aggressive. Not everyone can be Tito Ortiz or Brock Lesner, and Tai chi lends itself towards the less aggressive practitioner. As for it's effectiveness, Yang Style Tai Chi was developed during The Ch'ing, at the times of the White Lotus Sect and the Boxer uprising. It's effectiveness is not up for question, those who "claim" to teach it maybe are.

    • @bilbobaggins5815
      @bilbobaggins5815 5 лет назад

      You never used it on the street

    • @indefenceofthetraditionalma
      @indefenceofthetraditionalma 3 года назад +1

      @@bilbobaggins5815 why do you say that? In my youth I used tai chi in street/bar fights. These days I’m much better at avoiding fights altogether

  • @williamwoods2624
    @williamwoods2624 4 года назад

    Excellent Presentation..!!!
    Keep it coming.....

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      Thanks. First major project for 2020 is a website that will contain all my existing videos and a lot (A LOT) of new ones. I'll hopefully remember to post a msg here :)

  • @sugelanren
    @sugelanren 11 лет назад +1

    Good video.

  • @chaverra777
    @chaverra777 11 лет назад +1

    excelente en verdad, saludos desde Colombia, muy util sus enseñanzas

  • @benmiddleton9984
    @benmiddleton9984 11 лет назад

    Very COOL! I want to learn Tai Chi. I"ll be watching these videos a lot now.

  • @s.v.newell7328
    @s.v.newell7328 8 лет назад

    subbed thanks for this

  • @shadowphoenix8962
    @shadowphoenix8962 4 года назад +2

    You startled me, I'm from Gloucester,Massachusetts.

    • @giuseppestivala4538
      @giuseppestivala4538 4 года назад

      Hello, this is an intro video about self defense ruclips.net/video/Zb8gsgUX8-c/видео.html

  • @adrianradoi4209
    @adrianradoi4209 Год назад +1

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @YadiAlamin
    @YadiAlamin 11 лет назад +7

    Point taken. I've never had someone to a two handed straight arm grab/choke in a fight. Tai Chi for Combat is tricky. Most people are good at forms. I haven't seen it used in a fight.

    • @indefenceofthetraditionalma
      @indefenceofthetraditionalma 3 года назад

      I have experience of using it in fights. There’s too much emphasis on form training and form applications. The applications came before the form. I think most tai chi teachers have forgotten that

    • @perrypelican9476
      @perrypelican9476 3 года назад +1

      @@indefenceofthetraditionalma wrong wrong. The forms are for training. The real tai chi chuan is an internal art and the forms get you prepared for energy flow. It's totally different than the other striking and kicking martial arts. Look Into the origin of tai chi chuan in the Wudang mountains in China. These videos have nothing to do with tai chi chuan. It's a guy who wants to make extra money teaching but the problem is that he is not qualified. Ask him if he would spar with you. Put on the gloves and I and sure his students could beat him up if the only tried.

    • @indefenceofthetraditionalma
      @indefenceofthetraditionalma 3 года назад +1

      @@perrypelican9476 wrong wrong wrong 😑

  • @YadiAlamin
    @YadiAlamin 11 лет назад +12

    This is not bad. The issue is that the attack never happens in real life that way.

    • @timbushnell8964
      @timbushnell8964 3 года назад

      Same as every other art

    • @timbushnell8964
      @timbushnell8964 3 года назад

      @Fash me Outside' Girl yes there are

    • @lgv3051
      @lgv3051 2 года назад

      You pressure test people, not "arts". Anyone can be pressure tested. And don't think that a casual pressure test can be a substitute for a real fight. And who is the conducting the pressure test. Is it the current ufc champ? Does your technique work against him? My 5 year old son pressure tests me all the time and all of my ninja techniques work just fine. 👍

    • @blackpowderkun
      @blackpowderkun Год назад

      What a bigger guy trying to choke you with both hands in a charging motion?

    • @casius6435
      @casius6435 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@blackpowderkunyou poke your fingers into his eyes and continue

  • @georgedubois8235
    @georgedubois8235 4 года назад +4

    have you ever used any of these forms or there applications in a real life violent situation

  • @sugelanren
    @sugelanren 11 лет назад +1

    I meant Ch'ing Dynasty...i missed the dynasty part, sorry.

  • @dipayandey5372
    @dipayandey5372 4 года назад

    What is the name of your tai chi ? I mean what kind of tai chi you practice? Please reply me when you can.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      Hello Dipayan, fundamentally most of it is 'modern' (20th Century) Yang style - If you would like to see a recording of a video lesson I taught just over a week ago, have a look at: www.taichitraining.info/free-session.html

  • @YadiAlamin
    @YadiAlamin 11 лет назад

    Cosigned brother!

  • @bryanhayes1790
    @bryanhayes1790 4 года назад +1

    This is Master Hayes

  • @sugelanren
    @sugelanren 11 лет назад +4

    Never?
    Two points...First, absolutes are not really a good thing. Second, a lot of Tai chi partner work is about learning the mechanics of both your and your partners body in a safe environment. A two hand grab technique could be a one hand grab technique where the other hand is connecting to the attackers body to begin the manipulation of their upper body, or learning how to deal with an incoming force. I've been in a few street fights. Someone coming and pushing you is not so uncommon.

  • @raypauley9811
    @raypauley9811 5 лет назад

    Which style of Tai chi is this Robert please get back with me and where are you located at and the USA or UK

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  5 лет назад +1

      HI Ray, based on the 24 move Yang style 'modern' (created in the 1950s) short form. I'm based in Rushden in Northamptonshire in the UK .

    • @raypauley9811
      @raypauley9811 5 лет назад

      @@RobertAgarHutton do you teach faj Jan

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  5 лет назад +1

      @@raypauley9811 - if you mean what I would term 'Fa Jin' - (sudden explosive release of energy) the answer is not much - occasionally as a variation of one of our warm-up exercises - but it's not in the forms I teach and rarely appears in the applications.

    • @raypauley9811
      @raypauley9811 5 лет назад

      @@RobertAgarHutton what is the rarest of tachi you teach can you explain it to me please

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  5 лет назад +1

      ​@@raypauley9811 - Sorry, I don't understand the question - what do you mean by 'rarest'?

  • @jonathanalonsolopez9945
    @jonathanalonsolopez9945 4 года назад +1

    He has face of Guy dangerus

  • @dennymk6454
    @dennymk6454 3 года назад

    tai chi is all about learning to use soft power in many different ways. wouldn't try to learn tai chi from this guy.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  3 года назад +2

      Hi Denny, I looked but you don't have any videos :( You talk about using "soft power in many different ways" - that's interesting, do you mean Yin Energy? And what do you mean by "many different ways"? I'm always happy to learn more about Tai Chi, please explain.

  • @viunitflorianprobst1176
    @viunitflorianprobst1176 4 года назад

    The Ideas ok,... but where is the Bodystructure?? Many peoples speaks from the Bodystructure , but i don't see it...

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      Hi Florian, I always try to reply to comments but I'm not sure that I understand your meaning. What 'Bodystructure' are you referring to?
      In Tai Chi you utilise your structure both to deliver and dissipate force, but do you mean something specific?

    • @viunitflorianprobst1176
      @viunitflorianprobst1176 4 года назад

      @@RobertAgarHutton ok... i meaning tue centreline... tue line of equilibrium in your Body... the Bodystructure...
      The Part of MingMen is instability why?!
      The Arm go's up the Body Down, for direkt the Energie

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      @@viunitflorianprobst1176 - I'm a bit confused? Where do you see this up/down in the video - can you give me a time reference and I'll look at it and see if there was a reason for what I did or if I made a mistake :)

  • @jeffreyrobbins7465
    @jeffreyrobbins7465 4 года назад

    The Taiji Classics tell us, over and over again, that we never use strength or speed to defend ourselves, otherwise it is not Taiji. Yet in these demonstrations, strength and speed are what you use every time. So how can you call what you are doing Taiji?

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад +5

      Hi Jeffrey, good question - I'd suggest that the classics are subject to misinterpretation. Think of it this way, in a fight can you win by being slower and weaker than your attacker? I suggest that the answer is obviously no, therefore, perhaps it's about not relying on having more speed or strength that an attacker. Perhaps it's about the intelligent and focused use of speed (and timing) and strength and other attributes? Remember the idea that 'an attacker moves first but you arrive first' - that is only possible if you move fast and with an understanding of timing and movement and angles of attack.

    • @Chronicskillness
      @Chronicskillness 2 года назад

      Jeffrey, if you don't use speed and power to defend yourself you're going to get beaten quickly and badly.
      And where did you even hear that?
      Come on now. If that was said it was simply in reference to practice of one of the slow forms. Yes I used the word slow.
      Bet you didn't know Taijiquan has fast forms as well. Strength and power development too. Did you know Taijiquan is heavy on grappling and throws too?

  • @deanvassos1394
    @deanvassos1394 4 года назад

    I'm just imagining my teacher rolling over in his grave.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад +1

      Hi Dean, Who was your teacher? What would make him 'roll'?

  • @upenupen4541
    @upenupen4541 8 лет назад

    good videos, upload more vid :)

  • @tehdisyed7033
    @tehdisyed7033 5 лет назад +2

    Making people fool

  • @STFoodsecret
    @STFoodsecret Год назад

    Sir u r so nice

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  Год назад

      Thank you.

    • @STFoodsecret
      @STFoodsecret Год назад

      @@RobertAgarHutton sir I have a knee problem this is refree have u any solution

    • @STFoodsecret
      @STFoodsecret Год назад

      In this chi exercise

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  Год назад

      @@STFoodsecret for knee problems, Tai Chi may well help (I have an injured knee and it helps me) but you should have a Tai Chi instructor teach you in person to try and figure out the best way to help the knee.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  Год назад

      @@STFoodsecret I don't really understand your question - 'chi' can be considered as 'life energy' in which case, yes - but if you mean some special type of energy, with unusual powers and capabilities, then no.

  • @bashlivingstonstampededojo882
    @bashlivingstonstampededojo882 4 года назад

    Have you ever used any of this too defend yourself in a real life altercation..?

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      Are you referring to the specific moves shown or the underlying principles? If the former, can't remember; if the latter, then yes.

    • @bashlivingstonstampededojo882
      @bashlivingstonstampededojo882 4 года назад +1

      @@RobertAgarHutton the principles or the actual technique that was shown not bad application for a tai chi technique there was some practicality to it i usually dont view tai chi as self-defense/self protection or fighting i usually like to ask or know what the perons back round is and what real life experiences they have with their art in real life encounters glad to see that your tai chi came in handy for health and self-defense.

    • @timbushnell8964
      @timbushnell8964 3 года назад +1

      @@RobertAgarHutton that's an excellent reply, as long as the principles of taiji are used then it's taiji,. The form becomes formless and proscribed moves become no moves

  • @AngloSaxon1
    @AngloSaxon1 6 лет назад +5

    I dont see this approach being good for self defence, I'm not saying Tai Chi isn't good for fighting, just this approach.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  6 лет назад

      Hi, I'm always happy to get feedback - what are the things that you don't like (and why) or what are the things that you have an alternative approach to?

    • @AngloSaxon1
      @AngloSaxon1 6 лет назад +4

      To tell you the truth when students are first learning of course this approach is useful, But I feel that the attack has to be as real as possible to test the defenders balance and precision. so if a push comes in, it must be focused and done with intent. same with punches and kicks. When a hold or grappling situation it has to have strength put into it otherwise it is just playing. I understand that Tai Chi was once a very formidable fighting art and to keep that going, the attacks need to be real.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  6 лет назад +4

      Hi, Yes, that definitely makes sense.
      The attendees at that seminar were people that had never done Tai Chi, and consisted of two sets of two people who had never met the other 'set' before, so I think the level of 'realism' was appropriate, no point in learning how things work 'on the street' if you end up injured in training :)
      When you have a group of people who know each other and train together regularly then the amount of contact and the force of attacks should be increased.
      Your picture shows you holding a sword - I used to fence foil, epee and sabre, and still miss it - can you imagine the carnage if you gave a group of people who had never held a sword, a sharp blade and instructed them to attack realistically :) :) :)

    • @AngloSaxon1
      @AngloSaxon1 6 лет назад +2

      Oh yes, I would defo film it tho

    • @allyquinn4587
      @allyquinn4587 4 года назад

      @@RobertAgarHutton fair play my friend for answering the text back respect my friend

  • @mohammadfathi1461
    @mohammadfathi1461 2 года назад

    يخدم

  • @jonmaragliotti8857
    @jonmaragliotti8857 4 года назад +2

    I appreciate the effort you are making in trying to apply taiji to a physical encounter. However, this video does more harm than good to taiji. The initial attack your student makes is not one that even an untrained assailant would make. And your response leaves you extremely vulnerable. It might be wiser, since you have decided to instruct others in the martial aspect of taiji, to explore in depth more likely initial attacks and possible responses to them using your art. When you feel confident, try your applications against practitioners of other martial arts. Afterwards, and not before, make your videos.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад +3

      Hi Jon, thanks for your comments, what is/are your martial art(s) interest(s)?
      The people at the seminar had no Tai Chi experience and one of them no prior martial arts experience so the seminar was aimed at that level. You imply HAOV (Habitual Acts Of Violence) should have been the starting point, but in fact, in low level conflict, grabbing as a precursor to additional violence or as a way of 'emphasising' verbal aggression is very common.
      As to your comment "try your applications against practitioners of other martial arts" - Self-defence is not based on defending against attacks by martial artists. By the way, as someone who has trained in a variety of martial arts and has done a little bit of competing - I understand the use of cross training but think it is not a relevant issue in the case of that seminar.
      All the best, Robert.

    • @jonmaragliotti8857
      @jonmaragliotti8857 4 года назад +1

      @@RobertAgarHutton If your students are new to taiji, it might be best to focus on basics first. Since taiji is an internal art, it takes a great deal of time and effort to learn. Introducing them to applications too early may not be the best use of their time.
      I practice taiji among other things.
      Since the Xu Xiaodong incident in China, you must be careful when demonstrating taiji applications.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад +4

      @@jonmaragliotti8857 It was a seminar not a lesson - hence the content.
      Applications should be shown right from the start of training as it helps students understand the functional basis of Tai Chi. Generally, I teach people in their 60s, 70s and 80s - they are not learning how to fight, they are learning the importance of good body mechanics and whole body movement - applications help teach that.
      At the age of 65 I think (hope) that I am wise enough to know that a much younger MMA fighter could beat me up in a pre-arranged fight - All Xu Xiaodong has shown is that some people think that martial arts are uniform in nature and that arts learned for self defence or for health are the same as arts learned for competition. For competition you need to train for competition.

    • @jonmaragliotti8857
      @jonmaragliotti8857 4 года назад +2

      @@RobertAgarHuttonRobert, I promise I'll l annoy you no further after this comment.
      I understand that your video was from a seminar you gave. At least one portion of that seminar was devoted to the combat applications of taiji, not taiji for health or relaxation, but taiji for self-defense. The participants, who appeared to be well below 60, 70 or 80 years old, were shown an application that is problematic against an attack that was contrived.
      I apologise for my forthright comment. I am aware that you are not a novice in martial arts and are, in fact, quite learned. It is only an opinion from a fellow taiji practitioner.
      Whether or not to teach applications to beginners is not so cut-and-dry as you seem to imply. If you allow students--and if you teach them they're your students--to practice an application before they've developed an awareness of qi and an understanding of adhere/connect/stick/follow, they may cultivate bad habits, which you will later have to break. Shouldn't they crawl before they tango?
      As for Xu Xiaodong, he awakened all of us--or should have--in the internal arts. If you claim to teach a combat art, and yes that can include taiji, it has to be effective against unskilled and skilled adversaries. It would therefore be advisable to temper it against others who don't play by your same set of rules. Otherwise it would perhaps be best to avoid the combat applications altogether and focus on the significant health benefits of taiji.
      Cheers, Jon

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад +1

      @@jonmaragliotti8857 - thanks for your comments - I think I understand your point of view and maybe one day we can meet up and continue this discussion over a cup of coffee :)

  • @wonghohnkhew4025
    @wonghohnkhew4025 9 лет назад +1

    There was one true case happened 3 yrs ago that a local man married a foreign lady and lived together with a step daughter aged 12. One day the husband suspected that his wife was unfaithful to him. The drunken husband went home with fury. He strangled his step daughter to death in the living hall. Likewise if a young girl encounters a rather strong molester, what would you do ? You may have learnt TKD, Thai boxing or Judo…..These martial art could not help you much because the universal golden rule is : ” the strong always subdues the weak ! ” usually the molester would catch you (face to face) by your shoulders or worse would try to grip your breasts or worst would squeeze your throat (especially in India, most of the molesters would try to strangle the victim into coma then followed by raping and even killing because they do not allow the witness being alive). In this case, tai-ji might help you because tai-ji is the martial art which could be : ” the weak might subdue the strong ! ” You just need to spend 15 min. to learn the 1st movement of tai-ji (太极起式)from my distant teaching on the net, then you might be probably saved in future ! Let`s begin my tai-ji self-defense lesson as follows : Just imagine a stranger (face to face) tries to hold your shoulders or to grope your breasts or even to choke you ( if your throat being choked, you have only 20 sec.or less to escape being in coma !) Don`t be panicked, simply close your palms and fingers in an inverted Y shape then upthrust them into the space in-between the molester`s fore-arms right up to the height his forehead or even higher. At this moment, his hands would be released from your throat/body no matter how strong he is (according totai-ji principle : ” Use 4 oz to deflect hundred kg ! ” (即四两拨千斤)。Immediately open up your palms/fingers then use your finger-nails coming down to scratch his face/eyes ( you might blindfold him at least 5 min. or even life-time if his eye-balls being taken out). Then kick his nuts and run away as fast as possible.
    wonghohnkhew.com/what-would-you-do-if-your-throat-being-squeezed/

    • @Znibro
      @Znibro 8 лет назад

      +Wong Hohn Khew ehhh.. O.K?

  • @georgekondylis6723
    @georgekondylis6723 4 года назад

    I like tai chi for excersise and it’s aesthetics. But it in no shape or form is practical for self defense or fighting. It can be complementary to a fighting/self defense curriculum just as yoga is. Why not just market it as that? It’s just wrong to pawn it off to people as practical sd. False confidence could lead to bad results.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      Hi George, I think I understand your comment and certainly, the majority of Tai Chi training and Tai Chi teachers are NOT focused on self defence. But it can be used for that if you have a teacher who understands how. Look at the works of Dan Docherty, Eli Montaigue, Bruce Everett Miller, and many others who can and do see it's utility as a fighting art. Also research its history, unlike Yoga, Tai Chi came to fame as a way of fighting - its excellent ability to help promote and maintain health came along later.

    • @georgekondylis6723
      @georgekondylis6723 4 года назад +1

      Robert Agar-Hutton
      Possibly it could be used, as almost anything may work. But it’s extremely low percentage as compared to a more traditional combat art that contains sparring and unrehearsed sd techniques . Boxing, wrestling, karate , Tae Kwon Do, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu all are much higher percentage. As I said though, I think it’s pretty good for health purposes, and certainly less injurious in training than the true combat arts.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      @@georgekondylis6723 - Can I ask if you train in any of the arts that you mentioned - it's just that some of them are generally good for self defence and some of them not so much. TKD for example is generally taught as a sport not as a fighting art - it's great fun (done it myself) but it's not self defence. - oh, where are you based, obviously, different countries have different approaches - TKD is very (also exclusively) sports based in England but more combat based in say Malaysia.

    • @georgekondylis6723
      @georgekondylis6723 4 года назад +1

      Robert Agar-Hutton
      I have been a practitioner and instructor of what I call “old school” Tae Kwon Do for about forty years. My original instructor was Dongpil Kim. He was also very advanced in Kendo and Judo. It was much more complete and power oriented than the more sport-based Olympic style of today. Back then it was referred to as Korean Karate. Mr. Kim had the good fortune of being next door to one of the first drive thru McDonald’s. He got lots of foot traffic and interest. The school was located in Waltham, MA. He opened his second location in Boston’s combat zone. Not as lucky there. But very good for developing real fighting skills. People were only interested in results, not hypothesis in that location. Kim had the goods but was unfortunately a poor businessman. His schools closed a few years later. I was with him from 9 yo to 13. My second and primary instructor was Suk Chong Chung. He was also a very well rounded martial artist and possibly one of the greatest practitioners ever. He is in Korea’s TKD hall of fame. His students were fierce competitors and practical fighting was very important to us as well. Sport was just one spoke in the wheel, so to speak. I was awarded fourth dan from Chung around 1992. I taught and trained continuously for decades and coached both the Harvard TKD team and Tufts. My interests turned to boxing more over the last 10 years and most recently I have donned a white belt and am progressing in BJJ.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      @@georgekondylis6723 - Ahhh that explains why you included TKD in your list.
      I think the main problem with 'Self Defence' is in accurately establishing what it is - SD in England is different to SD in the USA and different again in Malaysia or South Africa or....
      And even after you take differences by country and region into account you then have to look at the individual - I'm 66, my SD requirements are different to say an 18 year old living in the same area (statistically the 18-25 age group - approx) has a higher risk factor of being involved in physical altercations.
      Then there are the really difficult aspects - getting students to realise that the physical aspects punch/kick/etc are way less important that the so called 'soft skills' avoidance, threat assessment, communication skills, first aid, escape and evasion, target hardening, etc, etc, etc - most people want to go to a martial arts school or SD class and walk out 2 lessons later as 'Bruce Lee' - sadly it doesn't quite work like that :)

  • @pakkeungwan
    @pakkeungwan 2 года назад

    This is Tai Chi Chuan combat practiced in its external form, therefore totally useless and dangerous for students to think that they can defend themselves with these movements. Teaching self defence even with the most effective and brutal forms of martial arts is difficult as it is. In your movements I do not see a body; that has invested in standing practice, time spent practicing the different levels of push hands that cultivates sticking, sensing, ward off, alignment and roll back. Relaxation and Water Level is also a fundamental and absolute necessity to actualising Tai Chi Chuan. I don't see it here. For Tai Chi to be effective in combat it's those elements pre and in between techniques that allow them to be effective.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  2 года назад

      Always happy to learn, please share a link to a video of you doing something.

    • @pakkeungwan
      @pakkeungwan 2 года назад

      @@RobertAgarHutton Hi, I didn't mean to offend, however self defence is a serious matter whilst also being a complex form to teach in the context of Taiji Chuan. There just is not the infrastructure in the UK to develop this side of the art by which I mean the number of clubs and practitioners actually engaged and developing that side of the Taiji Chuan, like there are in MMA. This is my teacher's club in London - ruclips.net/channel/UCpEG18Yxjs_1qiMgbhKYQWQhttps I never think about recording myself when training but here are the only videos of me. ruclips.net/video/GvN1rhne1jI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/PYXg_Tta2As/видео.html

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  2 года назад

      @@pakkeungwan Thank you for the links the first didn't work but the second did and I saw your sifu's name and searched on Google. I am not familiar with him or with Northern Wu style, hopefully one day we can meet up :)
      As to your original comments perhaps I could mention that the problem with self defence is that it has to be effective quickly, so you are not going to tech 'skills' as much as what in the early 1900s used to be called (in Jui-jitsu books) 'tricks' - What can you learn that is simple and bio-mechanically sound. At a basic level, Tai Chi emphasizes good body bio-mechanics - whether or not additional skills are developed or used (especially in a self defence scenario) is an interesting topic for discussion - over a cup of coffee one day - I live in Northamptonshire, so not a million miles away and a trip to London is always fun :)

  • @perrypelican9476
    @perrypelican9476 3 года назад

    What's happening to ta chi? The tai chi style that is martial is called tai chi chuan and is an internal martial art. This guy obviously has developed his own form of tai chi which has nothing to do with any styles from China. He talks about sinking which is not about body weight but about sinking the chi which is an energy thing. But that is meaningless. If you ever want to know if your martial arts teacher is worth anything, challenge him to a sparring match and go at it, but not with his direction. Punch him repeatedly alternating with kicks. I guarantee that the guy in this video teaching fighting can not handle an attack on the street. I think that would be the least a teacher of self defense could do. Because of the UFC and mixed martial arts being so popular, the world is now full of experts who have no clue what they are talking about. Ask this guy who his sifu was and how many years he studied under him. Then look up that sifu to compare. 90% of martial arts schools are run by phonies so be careful.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  3 года назад

      Hi Perry,
      Thanks for your thoughts.
      The 'sinking' comment you make is very valid but of courses raises the question 'What is Chi' - and the sinking I used in that video clip is of course mainly structural, as lowering your center of gravity is a basic tenet of many martial arts (both internal and external). As to the idea that that you challenge a prospective teacher to a sparring match, where you punch and kick - um, that's what most sparring involves - so what is different?
      Totally agree with "Because of the UFC and mixed martial arts being so popular, the world is now full of experts who have no clue what they are talking about." but that cuts both ways and there are a lot of so called ' potential students' who have only seen sports like UFC and MMA on video and have no idea about the hard work of training or the ugly reality of actual combat where there are no rules and no referee.
      Questions about lineage are fine and dandy (my Tai Chi lineage is pretty good with names that carry respect in the UK) BUT, lineage is a false indicator of ability (either to perform the art or, more importantly, to be able to teach) as many a good instructor produces average students and occasionally an average instructor will produce an exceptional student.
      What is your background in the martial arts, do you teach Tai Chi or something else? Have you any videos showing what you do?
      Keep well,
      All the best.
      Robert.

  • @indefenceofthetraditionalma
    @indefenceofthetraditionalma 3 года назад

    I can tell from this video that this guy knows nothing about actually fighting

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment. I'd just like to mention a minor point which is that the video was about some self defence applications from a specific Tai Chi form. Next, 'Fighting' and 'Self Defence' are (generally) different and many of the techniques that you use in fighting are not applicable for self defence and vice versa. Finally, please have you got a video that you can link to where you are using Tai Chi for fighting - I'm still learning and always interested in knowing more.

    • @indefenceofthetraditionalma
      @indefenceofthetraditionalma 3 года назад +1

      @@RobertAgarHutton hey man, sorry for my very rude comment. I mistook you for one of the many con artists I’ve seen demonstrating tai chi self defence. I’ll get back to you soon

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  3 года назад +1

      @@indefenceofthetraditionalma - No problem - I have ZERO respect for the no touch and magic finger brigade so I know that it's easy to get all riled up and go hunting for people to have a go at :) :) :)
      Happy to chat any time.

    • @indefenceofthetraditionalma
      @indefenceofthetraditionalma 3 года назад +1

      @@RobertAgarHutton I should really take the time to make sure first though 😖

  • @franckgary9750
    @franckgary9750 5 лет назад +3

    Ridiculous

  • @artedaguerrawushu6444
    @artedaguerrawushu6444 5 лет назад

    Taichi não é Arte de Combate 👎❗

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  5 лет назад +1

      Yes, Tai Chi is a combat art - the problem is that many people don't understand or know it's history. Of course it is ALSO an excellent health and fitness art too.
      Google translate: Sim, Tai Chi é uma arte de combate - o problema é que muitas pessoas não entendem ou sabem que é história. Claro que é também uma excelente saúde e fitness art também.

  • @Sammo247
    @Sammo247 4 года назад

    This is delusional. Structure governs function.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      Hi Samuel, please, I'd love to hear more detail and perhaps you would explain where what I am showing, is something that breaks your assertion that 'Structure governs function' (Although I'm not sure that what I think you mean by that, is actually what you mean).

    • @Sammo247
      @Sammo247 4 года назад

      Robert Agar-Hutton hi. With respect. I have a long answer that I am formulating into a manual of Yang FaJin TaiChi Chuan with supporting vids demonstrating the ‘weaponised’ adaptation and amalgamation of Yang Lu-Chan’s principals and applications into Cheng-Fu’s form through the combat lens of SanShou and PauChoi. And a shortened one. Thus, all forms are either limited or optimised by their structure which facilitates their functionality. This is An absolute architectural, biomechanical & evolutionary law. LuChan’s form was designed for ballistic combat use. It was weaponised. Stealthy. Lethal. Brutal. If lethal ballistic combat pressure is placed on any form with inadequate ‘unsound’ structure its function will fail. As it speeds up to meet a real rapid fire-fight attack the form will be forced to change as its structure is a falsehood. Sadly ManCheng perpetrated this falsehood🙇‍♂️. Lu-Chan made the Chen Family TaiChi very very real. Adapting and shortening it. But then sadly, most of his successors dismantled his legacy, mostly by pernicious Student Teacher conformational bias where people pretend and go along. To recover the essential essence, instead emulate vicious street encounter attacks. Then the illusion of any pretend application will be brutally dissolved. The delusion of application will leave fast. Instead leave last. Arrive first. See red with every move. Do no push-hands until you have mastered SanShou. Google interview with Chang Yiu-Chun, student of Yang Shou Hou. Then Download the illustrated Canon of Chen Family Taijichuan.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      @@Sammo247 When your manual/videos are done, I hope to see them. Keep well, train hard, have fun.

  • @mlegmleg9615
    @mlegmleg9615 4 года назад

    Fake

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад

      Nope, not fake - I was there and it actually happened.
      Of course if you are critiquing the techniques shown, well I'm always happy to learn, please post a link to you teaching some Tai Chi Self Defence, or even any other form of self defence - I look forward to seeing it.

  • @nelsonr1467
    @nelsonr1467 10 лет назад +3

    Why do need to use self defence for protection, just call the police they'll save you Lol.

    • @nelsonr1467
      @nelsonr1467 10 лет назад +1

      Yes they would, you just run away, and call the police. Btw violence is not the answer

    • @nelsonr1467
      @nelsonr1467 9 лет назад

      You do have an option just surrender yourself and bend over

    • @danielsherrer8223
      @danielsherrer8223 9 лет назад +3

      This has to be a joke

    • @nelsonr1467
      @nelsonr1467 9 лет назад

      You just figured it out?

    • @danielsherrer8223
      @danielsherrer8223 9 лет назад +1

      I just saw the comment.

  • @Daniel-yo5es
    @Daniel-yo5es 4 года назад

    my lord this is some absurd nonsense. old dude would get beaten by a six month bjj or mma guy. hilarious that there are grown mean sitting round listening to him.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад +1

      HI Daniel, you are probably right - goodness knows I seem to get mugged here on RUclips quite often :) :) :) Well let's see, I have rolled with BJJ people and yes definitely some of them totally owned me - BUT (and this is the whole point) - SELF DEFENCE is not for sparring with people in a play fight - Self Defence is what you do to someone who does NOT expect a physical response. Otherwise it's a 'fight' (Young bucks butting heads, social violence) and not a self defence scenario, and that is different.
      Tell you what - take any of the more common assaults, 'HAOV', and video yourself showing what you would do. I'm always happy to learn.

    • @Daniel-yo5es
      @Daniel-yo5es 4 года назад

      @@RobertAgarHutton bro... Im a two stripe bjj black belt... a second degree jjj black belt and been doing kick boxing for twenty years... self defense is about knowing how to fight... not thinking you are going to remember a one step you practiced with a willing participant... the fact that you don't know this tells me you don't have a clue and have never actually been in a fight. as a bjj black belt and having done kick boxing for twenty years... I would destroy 99 percent of the population with little to no effort... I am able to do that because I have spent countless hours on the mat and in the ring sparring with people trying to knock my head off and or tap me out... you are knowingly conning people. you know what you are showing is nonsense... I know you do.

    • @Daniel-yo5es
      @Daniel-yo5es 4 года назад

      @@RobertAgarHutton and if you don't know it's nonsense.. if you are truly that deluded... proceed to your nearest mma gym and you will get a valuable lesson. and no... you have never rolled in your life... I can tell by looking at you. you would be destroyed by beginners... absolute beginners. you are out of shape... you have no cardio or muscle strength..... you think fighting is some secret magical thing... it's not... it's just hard training and conditioning.

    • @RobertAgarHutton
      @RobertAgarHutton  4 года назад +1

      @@Daniel-yo5es I am impressed by your qualifications and overawed by your ability to discern so much about people by simply looking at them. I'm going to resist the temptation to list qualifications - I have earned a few over the years - but I will reiterate my request - Let's see you put up a self defence video.

    • @Daniel-yo5es
      @Daniel-yo5es 4 года назад

      @@RobertAgarHutton Daniel Andrews... you can check out my facebook page... .or Daniel Andrews North Texas MMA. what I see is what you are trying to pass off as self defense... if you were using it for exercise or movement... I would say great. that's awesome.... but you aren't. you are pawning it off as something that will help a person out in a fight... and you know and I know... it's nonsense.