Beelink currently sells its N100 mini PC for $179 and that includes 16GB of RAM, 500GB SSD and a Win11 Pro license. IMHO, they would need to sell it under $140 to remain competitive. You can also expand RAM to 32GB on Beelink Mini PC. I'm into ARM SBC's and x86 SBC's. As a pro-case user, a commercial case for this x86 SBC will need to be included in the accessories list. Hardkernel H3+ x86 SBC with Jasper Lake N6005 which sells for $165 seems like an alternative too.
This is awesome; I’ve been looking for a Raspberry-Pi form-factor, x86 sbc!! The Rock Pi X was a cool concept, but it could hardly run RUclips, not to mention older/indie x86 PC games and higher-end emulators. The fact that the IO’s form-factor on this thing is similar to a Pi is exciting for compatibility with embedded projects as well (plus, I personally prefer full-sized hdmi, anyway, due to mini being less abundant). A Linux video would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Speaking of tiny and energy efficient computers, I've been wondering what a handheld PC designed with those in mind would look like. Intel is still making super low TDP Atoms, could they allow for a cheap and small gaming handheld? I can’t tell performance off specs alone. Need me some gaming benchmarks and there are like none for the newest Atoms on RUclips. This type of handheld PC could even have potential as an easy and inexpensive way to get into PC gaming (and serious gaming in general), specially for children. I'm not under any illusion that this would play the latest big budget games, I know better. And so should potential buyers, gamers sometimes have a hard time remembering how many old AAA and indies games exist. A handheld PC with very low energy consumption also interests me because it could be small and pocketable, something that isn’t made anymore.
I just picked up a refurb i5 6500 mini PC. Good speed. It's impressive that the performance of an n100 is nearly the same. For 1/10th the CPU power draw!
@@qazwsx000xswzaq it's because DDR5 acts as two channels correct ? But is it possible that there could be a limitation and it would be limited to one channel ?
@@zorintoto1167 Yes DDR5 has a narrower 32bit data channel (vs 64bit in DDR4) so in the DIMM format there can be 2 (32+32) subchannels. But the story is a bit more complicated as this board is using LPDDR5 that comes in the IC format and supports even narrower channel width (e.g. 16bit). Intel has not yet publicly released the datasheet for Alder Lake N (and the Intel Ark is too superficial) so I cannot be sure. But from the published material about the memory controller on its older silbing Alder Lake S, each controller is capable of supporting up to four channels of LPDDR4x and LPDDR5/x, two channels of DDR5 and one channel of DDR4. So if they are reusing the same controller (which is very likely) we will definitely have more channels with DDR5 regardless.
From what I could find all N Series even up to the 300/305 are single channel ram only. The U Series which got a performance core also got dual channel ram
On the topic of single-channel RAM, these tiny SoCs are single-channel only. The memory controller only supports 1 channel and 16GB is the max Intel lists, but there's nothing stopping 32GB to run.
@Aragami lpddr5 is half bus width, but it's often clocked higher and physically closer to the processor by trace length, which can make up a lot of the performance difference.
The N100 is the first decent lower end processor that Intel has released in a long time. It is a shame that the board cannot support M.2, which would have made it more attractive. But we do need a proposed price in order ot assess just how much value there is. Whatever happened to that $99 board that was reviewed a few months back?
@@budgetking2591 Not true. First of all, there is no such CPU as N6105, it is N6005. And second, N100 processor beats N6005 in every single test but the iGPU. If you are going to use only for playing, I buy it, get a mini PC with a N6005 (and pay the extra money, as mini PC's with that CPU are more expensive), but for the rest, save some money and get a N100. It even has AVX2 extensions, something that N6005 lacks.
@@budgetking2591 The N100 is doing the same or better than the N6005 with a shade over half the typical power, it's the reason I chose the N100 as my gateway/reverse proxy appliance over something $20 cheaper and equipped with an N6005 in a passively cooled chassis. And the single channel memory issue matters far less when you're considering how low end these CPUs are in conjunction with the fact that the N series Alder lake chips support DDR5 where the old garbage that the N6005 is does not, and that's before even considering how superior the Xe iGPU is to the old UHD garbage.
Or roughly on par with a 6500t, and the impressive bit is that while those consume dozens of watts above their TDP it appears that this processor only consumes around 12-15w on the die full tilt. The N-305 is roughly as performant as the 8500t, for less overall system consumption than the actual TDP of that processor (~29w).
If you add mobile chips into the comparison, the i7 8550u is on par with the n300, which is also 4x the tdp of the n300. The i5 7200u from the previous generation not even as fast as the n100, with way more power draw
If this board is priced under 150$ this could be amazing for DIY handheld. Just add some battery and gamepad and screens and you have yourself amazing handheld computer
He could go back to one of his old school concepts where he made solderless handheld emulation machine for an easy diy project. Imagine updating that thing or even putting into that experimental pi handheld. That would be a neat and fun project.
I'd like to do something similar in putting one of these into a retro laptop with a modern screen, modern battery put in and the old mouse and keyboard utilised.
Thank you as always for great coverage of these tiny low-power machines. If you do a Linux video, could you please share the output of the "vainfo" command? (Supplied with Ubuntu's "vainfo" package, or Arch's "libva-utils" package). This tells us the video hardware acceleration capabilities via the VA-API video decode/encode libraries for codecs like H.264, H.265, AV1, etc, which is really useful to people setting up video servers like Jellyfin. These Intel N100 devices in particular look like excellent options for that software.
i checked the info on the higher model i3 n300, it is 8 cores no ht and still single channel (intel specific design, no dual channel option) but 32EU gpu. these are great and all but i think the ryzen embeded apu's still has many advantages. this N100 is great for converting dumb or old smart tv's into great all in ones. Intel finally got rid of atom based chips good riddance.
Yeah but keep in mind they eat much more power than previous atom chips. They just added feature parity on atom cores to bring them in alder lake. Of course they will blow any previous pentium and Celeron in Geekbench, because these don't have AVX2, in real world they are much closer. Emulation takes great advantage of AVX, but other games and web browsing/video playback, not so much
I run a Dell OptiPlex 9020 with an i5-4570 from 2013 as my daily driver. This looks remarkable comparable a part for this runs 4k video. Perfectly suitable for home/administration use. Just stick it in a pi case and tape it and the ssd to the back of the monitor.
I would love to see someone build a SBC with one of these with 16 GB RAM and a PCIe x8 slot and 2.5 gbe on board. Add a SAS HBA and you could have a killer low power NAS box. The CPU supports 9 PCIe lanes, so it should be possible.
The same here. Gotta keep an eye on this. But with rasps going the price they are, anything decent flies of the shelves and/or get the price WAY above the intented
Intel-based x86 SBCs are so much less problematic. ARM-based ones generally have limited GPU support in the mainline Linux kernel, whereas Intel has open-source drivers and ARM Windows is not exactly the thing, especially given most Windows software is x86.
it blows me away just how much performance tese little chips have. to put it in perspective, it has a higher passmark score than the desktop skylake i5-6400. crazy
Proxmox should run great. Vmware is extremely picky about which hardware it will allow to run on, but if it did run it should also run good if you are doing a home lab. I have a much worse chip (j4125) and it runs proxmox, 3 windows servers as a small domain environment, and pfsense just fine.
I'm super interested - but the big concern is price. The Recommended Customer Price - for the CPU alone - is $128 on Intel Ark. This is Intel direct, 1000 unit quantities (likely trays). Given that it's a new CPU, I fear this board will be $150-ish for the base configurations. AliExpress has some 'mini routers' with this CPU, and they're around $140. Still, an interesting little CPU, and when it's hit the market a bit more, I hope to see some options.
Hey, videos comes to end abruptly and we never see any Linux footage. Also, what's the price supposed to be? I know it's a prototype but at least a range would give me some idea of how excited to be about this.
To all wanting one of these, the Razda X4 has just been released. I'm not sure which board he was using, this one though is dirt cheap. The base model 4gb ddr5 ram is something like 40 pounds. Which is AMAZING.
Cool product. I'd like to see some mini-pci slots. Then you can expose the PCI lanes to boards to add NVMe, SATA, 10BG. etc. you could make really small form factor servers. I would forgo the LAN port . controller and some usb too to free up PCI lanes and make it modular through PCI.
Fantastic. Any idea on the price? It will be great to see how it compares in value to a NuC 🤔 $50 would be a dream, but I'd risk to say it will hit $120
Since there are so many SBC manufacturers in the market, I bet you'll see 2 ports in a couple of months. That's already a trend on all the other processors But come on, 2.5g is asking for a lot
@@JamesMyatt1 Well, you can always remove 2 usb ports, if you are going for dual 2.5gb in this form factor it is because you are intent to use it in network applications.
@@shivanSpS Yep, definitely. I mean, if the company will sell it in several RAM/storage configurations, dual Ethernet doesn't sound out of place at all.
@@shivanSpS Replacing 2 USB ports with a second ethernet port is going to limit interest to only people who want tiny opnSense routers. Multiple ethernet ports would be great, but only makes sense for larger form factors, say NUC-sized or mini-ITX. If you really want multiple ethernet ports on this form factor, then you're best off with USB3 ethernet adapters for $15-$30 each (depending on model and retailer).
Is there a reason there are almost no discussions or videos of new Intel based SBCs? There are some very low TDP Atom chips I’d like to see benchmarked.
Btw n100 uses efficiency cores from alder lake, so around skylake performance. Being able to emulate ps2 is not a strech! Probably could do more if it could clock higher and had a better gpu. As is it is a great emulation processor
Dreamy, I hope it is accessible for even consumers to design carrier boards. Lovely at 6 watts, gracemont lands with similar footprint to cherry trail. Huzzah!
Surprised nobody's mentioning the sudden cut-off at 10:32. Was that some kind of a context edit? Great coverage all around tho. This might be a pretty cool SBC
The most interesting thing about this to me is what looks like the Raspberry Pi style GPIO pins, haven't seen them on a x86 single board computer before. Am guessing you can wire arcade sticks etc for low latency controls?
Indeed it would be impressive if those GPIOs are from the CPU natively. These Atom (or Efficiency Core) CPUs actually have their own GPIOs but they are rarely mapped out. Previous designs, e.g. PandaLatte, typically include a MCU to provide the interfaces.
@@qazwsx000xswzaq udoo does provide boards with both Arduino io and atom io. Up boards are with gpio too. Also, there was a previous SBC of the same form factor that featured an atom CPU
Nice little board. The CPU performance per watt is really decent for that CPU.This would make a nice low-power Linux box. Let's hope they don't go overboard with the pricing.
Testing suggestion ; Linuxmint 21, most used linux os for beginners. I am still esting this for Pi4 /400 = NoGo so far. This N100 has nice pecs with mini pc's Trigkey/ Beelink. Mahalo for video !
Great to see you tested Dirt 3. Still the best in the series for me. After that they seem over bloated and just not as fun. The Dirt 3 spin-off Dirt Showdown is great too.
Nice board. My only gripe is that is has decent specs, but no PCIe. Not even mini PCIe? Even laptops from the 2000's had minis. The header is so small why not just throw it on the production board? I was also wondering about the minecraft demo you gave... is that bedrock or java? My kids would love these as travel PC's, instant minecraft box, but they play Java edition with shaders.
@@abo3abid1 very true. The cpu will bottleneck it hard. At the same point, you can get more out of the CPU because power won't go to the integrated GPU, and the performance you'll get out of the GPU, even harshly limited, will outperform the internal GPU.
Man, this would be amazing if it had N305 and some better I/O. eMMC memory is quite disappointing too. It seems that there are a lot of N100 devices out there but all off them come with severe drawbacks :(
ETA, when you review SBCs on Linux, can you please verify OTG capabilities too? Many manufacturers don't clarify their USB-C purposes besides power-in and display-out.
Needs a 2230 mini m.2 nvme ssd slot... Needs a heatsink twice to three times as thick with a variable 12v fan and be configured for 28w tap out of the box, this chip only supports single channel memory, but, that's fine....
32GB memory and 512GB storage then could use it for fairly serious software development (at least for my purposes). I'd like a relatively low-cost Raspberry Pi form factor x86_64 SBC that could pick up and grab to take with me, then plug into keyboard/mouse/display at destination (laptop screens are not large enough for me so I always have that addressed per the destinations I move between - as everyone is doing flex office style these days). Is WiFi going to be integrated too or will have to use a USB WiFi dongle? Need to see it running Linux - like latest Ubuntu 23.04 - with WiFi addressed under Linux in some manner. Any bluetooth? Can do wireless mouse with USB dongle if not...
What makes me interested is the CPU. Chuwi sells their next Gemibook XPro with this CPU for only $250. For a sizeable bump in performance compared to last year's N5100 this seems odd. I'd like to know why.
@@benjiderrick4590 How does that answer my question? In case you didn't quite get it, $250 for a full laptop is damn cheap, yes this CPU literally gives double the performance of last year model that costs around $100-150 more.
@@leledumbo this was for the sizeable bump in performance part. As for why this chuwi laptop is cheaper, that's because chuwi is not the greatest quality especially in portable devices. Previous models had very poor LCD panels, subpar CPU performance (relative to other models using the same chip) and cheapo build quality. Also don't forget bios support isn't in their priority list
I like the look of this, it has decent performance, credit card form factor, proper HDMI port. It woudn't take much to turn this in to a desktop computer replacement for every day tasks. When can I get one?
Wow Gamecube and Wii on an SBC? I don't recall seeing that too often, if not ever but I could be way off here...x86 is nice. Maybe the fact this is Windows is helping the performance.
that is looking really reallyt interresting... low watt usuage with great power... :) :) I didnt get the price ?? do you have more info on this, or will do a later review when it will be official ?
the n100 is only a single memory channel chip, it was interesting until the point when i found that out and for me single channel memory only is a deal breaker, i think it will be the same for many others
I’ll stick to my n6005 because it has 32 execution units in GPU compared to this SBC’s 24 execution units. The CPU in the N100 is 15% faster than the N6005, but the GPU from the N100 is 25% slower than the N6005. For Plex transcoding the N6005 is the better choice and better value, unless we can get this SBC for less than $120.
CPU wise my computer is a bit less powerful and I can run most Switch games at 30 fps, some at 60. I think the gpu would be holding it back though. Ps3... maybe.
For me video is broken here, suddenly ended at 10:32. But about the N100: perfect size, perfect power. I want one!
Wow, that’s a promising little sbc, i hope the pricepoint doesn’t get too crazy, and i’d be very interested in seeing it run steam os
Did intel apu works ok with steam os?
I don't think so
Not as well as AMD for sure, Valve has made AMD priority due to the Steam deck but fixes are on the way
Xe iGPUs are currently "unsupported" but can still be used. It'll probably run, but won't be as good as a similar AMD APU.
@a b 1. They are not listed on the official supported hardware list. 2. I've seen it attempted.
Beelink currently sells its N100 mini PC for $179 and that includes 16GB of RAM, 500GB SSD and a Win11 Pro license. IMHO, they would need to sell it under $140 to remain competitive. You can also expand RAM to 32GB on Beelink Mini PC. I'm into ARM SBC's and x86 SBC's. As a pro-case user, a commercial case for this x86 SBC will need to be included in the accessories list. Hardkernel H3+ x86 SBC with Jasper Lake N6005 which sells for $165 seems like an alternative too.
This is awesome; I’ve been looking for a Raspberry-Pi form-factor, x86 sbc!! The Rock Pi X was a cool concept, but it could hardly run RUclips, not to mention older/indie x86 PC games and higher-end emulators. The fact that the IO’s form-factor on this thing is similar to a Pi is exciting for compatibility with embedded projects as well (plus, I personally prefer full-sized hdmi, anyway, due to mini being less abundant).
A Linux video would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Please do a Linux video - intro level, e.g. setting up Linux Mint - this would be very helpful!
Linux + Wine emulator and try some older PC game like Bioshock or Deus Ex 👍
Speaking of tiny and energy efficient computers, I've been wondering what a handheld PC designed with those in mind would look like. Intel is still making super low TDP Atoms, could they allow for a cheap and small gaming handheld? I can’t tell performance off specs alone. Need me some gaming benchmarks and there are like none for the newest Atoms on RUclips. This type of handheld PC could even have potential as an easy and inexpensive way to get into PC gaming (and serious gaming in general), specially for children.
I'm not under any illusion that this would play the latest big budget games, I know better. And so should potential buyers, gamers sometimes have a hard time remembering how many old AAA and indies games exist. A handheld PC with very low energy consumption also interests me because it could be small and pocketable, something that isn’t made anymore.
I just picked up a refurb i5 6500 mini PC. Good speed. It's impressive that the performance of an n100 is nearly the same. For 1/10th the CPU power draw!
I've been wanting to build a terminal from Fallout to bring to events for people to play New Vegas on. This might be the perfect candidate for a core!
I will test it for sure. Waiting on updated GPU driver now
Omg val I'm an old viewer of yours 4-5 years glad to see u here
3:22 N100 only supports 1 memory channel by design. So that is normal.
Yeah, I literally got a reply yesterday afternoon about it. Was really hopeful we could do dual
@@ETAPRIME Fortunately this board is using LPDDR5 which has partially rememdied the lack of another physical channel.
@@qazwsx000xswzaq it's because DDR5 acts as two channels correct ? But is it possible that there could be a limitation and it would be limited to one channel ?
@@zorintoto1167 Yes DDR5 has a narrower 32bit data channel (vs 64bit in DDR4) so in the DIMM format there can be 2 (32+32) subchannels. But the story is a bit more complicated as this board is using LPDDR5 that comes in the IC format and supports even narrower channel width (e.g. 16bit). Intel has not yet publicly released the datasheet for Alder Lake N (and the Intel Ark is too superficial) so I cannot be sure. But from the published material about the memory controller on its older silbing Alder Lake S, each controller is capable of supporting up to four channels of LPDDR4x and LPDDR5/x, two channels of DDR5 and one channel of DDR4. So if they are reusing the same controller (which is very likely) we will definitely have more channels with DDR5 regardless.
From what I could find all N Series even up to the 300/305 are single channel ram only.
The U Series which got a performance core also got dual channel ram
That ended quick, it kinda jumped up a notch and then it was over
Very abrupt was just getting good too
Probably will reupload
That's what she said
@@richarddukard8989 lmao
That was funny :-)
On the topic of single-channel RAM, these tiny SoCs are single-channel only. The memory controller only supports 1 channel and 16GB is the max Intel lists, but there's nothing stopping 32GB to run.
32GB is the min I need to use it for development
This is what I came to comment 👍🏻
lpddr is also half bandwidth so youd need it in 4 slots to get the same performance as dual channel
@Aragami lpddr5 is half bus width, but it's often clocked higher and physically closer to the processor by trace length, which can make up a lot of the performance difference.
RK3588 is very better.
The N100 is the first decent lower end processor that Intel has released in a long time. It is a shame that the board cannot support M.2, which would have made it more attractive. But we do need a proposed price in order ot assess just how much value there is. Whatever happened to that $99 board that was reviewed a few months back?
yes I would want and expect M.2 support for this board
Thats not true, the N6105 is as good if not better, it supports dual channel memory, unlike the 12th gen chips.
@@budgetking2591 Not true. First of all, there is no such CPU as N6105, it is N6005. And second, N100 processor beats N6005 in every single test but the iGPU. If you are going to use only for playing, I buy it, get a mini PC with a N6005 (and pay the extra money, as mini PC's with that CPU are more expensive), but for the rest, save some money and get a N100. It even has AVX2 extensions, something that N6005 lacks.
@@budgetking2591 The N100 is doing the same or better than the N6005 with a shade over half the typical power, it's the reason I chose the N100 as my gateway/reverse proxy appliance over something $20 cheaper and equipped with an N6005 in a passively cooled chassis. And the single channel memory issue matters far less when you're considering how low end these CPUs are in conjunction with the fact that the N series Alder lake chips support DDR5 where the old garbage that the N6005 is does not, and that's before even considering how superior the Xe iGPU is to the old UHD garbage.
I'll happily buy this over a Raspberry Pi 5
Just to put this CPU in perspective, it's about equivalent to a Sandy Bridge 2600k. Very very impressive for a 6W TDP.
Really? Holy shit!
Or roughly on par with a 6500t, and the impressive bit is that while those consume dozens of watts above their TDP it appears that this processor only consumes around 12-15w on the die full tilt. The N-305 is roughly as performant as the 8500t, for less overall system consumption than the actual TDP of that processor (~29w).
If you add mobile chips into the comparison, the i7 8550u is on par with the n300, which is also 4x the tdp of the n300. The i5 7200u from the previous generation not even as fast as the n100, with way more power draw
That was like The Sopranos kind of ending
If this board is priced under 150$ this could be amazing for DIY handheld. Just add some battery and gamepad and screens and you have yourself amazing handheld computer
He could go back to one of his old school concepts where he made solderless handheld emulation machine for an easy diy project. Imagine updating that thing or even putting into that experimental pi handheld. That would be a neat and fun project.
I'd like to do something similar in putting one of these into a retro laptop with a modern screen, modern battery put in and the old mouse and keyboard utilised.
We’re did you see the n100 edge were
Do a Full Emulation video with a lot of games, I can watch those whole day
Thank you as always for great coverage of these tiny low-power machines. If you do a Linux video, could you please share the output of the "vainfo" command? (Supplied with Ubuntu's "vainfo" package, or Arch's "libva-utils" package). This tells us the video hardware acceleration capabilities via the VA-API video decode/encode libraries for codecs like H.264, H.265, AV1, etc, which is really useful to people setting up video servers like Jellyfin. These Intel N100 devices in particular look like excellent options for that software.
i checked the info on the higher model i3 n300, it is 8 cores no ht and still single channel (intel specific design, no dual channel option) but 32EU gpu. these are great and all but i think the ryzen embeded apu's still has many advantages. this N100 is great for converting dumb or old smart tv's into great all in ones. Intel finally got rid of atom based chips good riddance.
Yeah but keep in mind they eat much more power than previous atom chips. They just added feature parity on atom cores to bring them in alder lake. Of course they will blow any previous pentium and Celeron in Geekbench, because these don't have AVX2, in real world they are much closer. Emulation takes great advantage of AVX, but other games and web browsing/video playback, not so much
I run a Dell OptiPlex 9020 with an i5-4570 from 2013 as my daily driver. This looks remarkable comparable a part for this runs 4k video. Perfectly suitable for home/administration use. Just stick it in a pi case and tape it and the ssd to the back of the monitor.
I would love to see someone build a SBC with one of these with 16 GB RAM and a PCIe x8 slot and 2.5 gbe on board. Add a SAS HBA and you could have a killer low power NAS box. The CPU supports 9 PCIe lanes, so it should be possible.
Take a look at the Odroid H3(+). Gonna build my homeserver with that thing.
There are mini pc's now with this processor. and saw a motherboard from asrock.
This would be a really cool SBC to use. I would love build a little kubernetes cluster with a few of them. It would be really nice to see poe as well!
The same here. Gotta keep an eye on this. But with rasps going the price they are, anything decent flies of the shelves and/or get the price WAY above the intented
RK3588 is very better.
@@ribeiro4642 How come? I still would prefer this if it is cheaper. The RK3588 starts at $400usd I think?
Yes, I would like to hook up a load of these to my UPOE switches to use for Digital signage devices
Intel-based x86 SBCs are so much less problematic. ARM-based ones generally have limited GPU support in the mainline Linux kernel, whereas Intel has open-source drivers and ARM Windows is not exactly the thing, especially given most Windows software is x86.
A full Linux video would be good to know if it can handle wayland or xorg well enough.
it blows me away just how much performance tese little chips have. to put it in perspective, it has a higher passmark score than the desktop skylake i5-6400. crazy
Rather than a workstation, I'd like to see how this does as a VM server. Particularly a multi-node Proxmox or VMWare virtualization server.
Very bad...
Proxmox should run great.
Vmware is extremely picky about which hardware it will allow to run on, but if it did run it should also run good if you are doing a home lab. I have a much worse chip (j4125) and it runs proxmox, 3 windows servers as a small domain environment, and pfsense just fine.
Very interesting product, thank you for sharing. I am very interested and would like to know where I can buy it?😁
I'm super interested - but the big concern is price. The Recommended Customer Price - for the CPU alone - is $128 on Intel Ark. This is Intel direct, 1000 unit quantities (likely trays). Given that it's a new CPU, I fear this board will be $150-ish for the base configurations. AliExpress has some 'mini routers' with this CPU, and they're around $140.
Still, an interesting little CPU, and when it's hit the market a bit more, I hope to see some options.
Ouch. I think at that point one might consider a NuC 🤔
Hey, videos comes to end abruptly and we never see any Linux footage. Also, what's the price supposed to be? I know it's a prototype but at least a range would give me some idea of how excited to be about this.
To all wanting one of these, the Razda X4 has just been released. I'm not sure which board he was using, this one though is dirt cheap.
The base model 4gb ddr5 ram is something like 40 pounds. Which is AMAZING.
Cool product. I'd like to see some mini-pci slots. Then you can expose the PCI lanes to boards to add NVMe, SATA, 10BG. etc. you could make really small form factor servers.
I would forgo the LAN port . controller and some usb too to free up PCI lanes and make it modular through PCI.
Fantastic. Any idea on the price? It will be great to see how it compares in value to a NuC 🤔
$50 would be a dream, but I'd risk to say it will hit $120
Where buy this?
the n100's single core specs are very respectable. honestly to have over 1000 i feel is really good
It would be awesome to have 2 Ethernet ports (2.5G too) to use it as a router with opnSense. Maybe the company will take note 👌🏼
Since there are so many SBC manufacturers in the market, I bet you'll see 2 ports in a couple of months. That's already a trend on all the other processors
But come on, 2.5g is asking for a lot
There's no space for 2 ethernet ports in this form factor
@@JamesMyatt1 Well, you can always remove 2 usb ports, if you are going for dual 2.5gb in this form factor it is because you are intent to use it in network applications.
@@shivanSpS Yep, definitely. I mean, if the company will sell it in several RAM/storage configurations, dual Ethernet doesn't sound out of place at all.
@@shivanSpS Replacing 2 USB ports with a second ethernet port is going to limit interest to only people who want tiny opnSense routers. Multiple ethernet ports would be great, but only makes sense for larger form factors, say NUC-sized or mini-ITX. If you really want multiple ethernet ports on this form factor, then you're best off with USB3 ethernet adapters for $15-$30 each (depending on model and retailer).
This guy needs to post link and discuss price comparisons in all SBCs. Also over time.
Wow, thats on par with a i5 7400 desktop chip that pulls 65w on those geekbench scores. Really awesome.
Is there a reason there are almost no discussions or videos of new Intel based SBCs? There are some very low TDP Atom chips I’d like to see benchmarked.
Btw n100 uses efficiency cores from alder lake, so around skylake performance. Being able to emulate ps2 is not a strech! Probably could do more if it could clock higher and had a better gpu. As is it is a great emulation processor
WiiU emulation on this SBC is incredible!
The 12 more eu's of the n200 would be great. But single channel ram is just sad.
It's sad that Intel only allows single channel on alder lake-N.
This looks very promising. I would like to get one to run unbound and Pi-hole. I hope someone makes a case for it.
if my eyes don't deceive me, it should fit into a case made for an rpi3 without any major issue.
@@invictus0x0 Also there are *so many* designs out there for free that can be 3D printed.
you can run unbound and pihole or rpi 1 with 128mb ram
Dreamy, I hope it is accessible for even consumers to design carrier boards.
Lovely at 6 watts, gracemont lands with similar footprint to cherry trail. Huzzah!
Surprised nobody's mentioning the sudden cut-off at 10:32. Was that some kind of a context edit?
Great coverage all around tho. This might be a pretty cool SBC
The most interesting thing about this to me is what looks like the Raspberry Pi style GPIO pins, haven't seen them on a x86 single board computer before. Am guessing you can wire arcade sticks etc for low latency controls?
Indeed it would be impressive if those GPIOs are from the CPU natively. These Atom (or Efficiency Core) CPUs actually have their own GPIOs but they are rarely mapped out. Previous designs, e.g. PandaLatte, typically include a MCU to provide the interfaces.
@@qazwsx000xswzaq udoo does provide boards with both Arduino io and atom io. Up boards are with gpio too. Also, there was a previous SBC of the same form factor that featured an atom CPU
Great vid, you should include power consumption like your other videos, especially compare against pi4
The best option for anything proyect over RP. Price/value ratio rules!
This is getting so crazy
Everything including demonstrated benchmarks, but seems to miss the most important spec - Is it a viable price to start with?
I wish you would show battery options with small 7” or 10” displays for people wanting to build handhelds.
Hey ETA, you dropped the ending out bud.
Nice little board. The CPU performance per watt is really decent for that CPU.This would make a nice low-power Linux box.
Let's hope they don't go overboard with the pricing.
this is how a raspberry pi5 would be, running ps2 games 🔥
I would LOVE to see this little guy running in DUAL CHANNEL!! I am SUPER IMPRESSED!!!!! But I would be BLOWN AWAY if they made it DUAL CHAN!!! :D
Intel's specification page for the N100 CPU states that it only has a single memory channel.
PLZ DO LINUX VIDEO!!! Xbox emulation tests would also be awesome!
Testing suggestion ; Linuxmint 21, most used linux os for beginners. I am still esting this for Pi4 /400 = NoGo so far. This N100 has nice pecs with mini pc's Trigkey/ Beelink. Mahalo for video !
Yes, PLEASE do a linux video! And do try to use some of the raspberry accessories on it like gpio screen.
Would be awesome if it had a m.2 slot for storage and came in with a low price.
yes they need to make it dual channel. And add one nvme m.2 slot at the bottom of the board would be super.
Your channel really blew up, I subbed when you were around 100k. Congrats man!🎉
N100 scores better than my I5-6300U that is crazy. Will be interested if the price is right.
Great to see you tested Dirt 3. Still the best in the series for me. After that they seem over bloated and just not as fun. The Dirt 3 spin-off Dirt Showdown is great too.
Nice board. My only gripe is that is has decent specs, but no PCIe. Not even mini PCIe? Even laptops from the 2000's had minis. The header is so small why not just throw it on the production board? I was also wondering about the minecraft demo you gave... is that bedrock or java? My kids would love these as travel PC's, instant minecraft box, but they play Java edition with shaders.
Single channel memory is a limitation of the CPU.
Who makes this product? Any links? Thanks in advance.
Duel channel ram and an m.2 slot for a low end GPU to connect externally, would be a mini beast
Would be silly to use a graphics card 6 times the size of the CPU
@@abo3abid1 very true. The cpu will bottleneck it hard. At the same point, you can get more out of the CPU because power won't go to the integrated GPU, and the performance you'll get out of the GPU, even harshly limited, will outperform the internal GPU.
Man, this would be amazing if it had N305 and some better I/O. eMMC memory is quite disappointing too. It seems that there are a lot of N100 devices out there but all off them come with severe drawbacks :(
Wish they would make a model with the n200, same tdp with more powerful graphics.
consider testing bloodthief and other modern low spec titles, and show riva tuner custom frame cap, I hear its very useful
ETA, when you review SBCs on Linux, can you please verify OTG capabilities too? Many manufacturers don't clarify their USB-C purposes besides power-in and display-out.
Needs a 2230 mini m.2 nvme ssd slot... Needs a heatsink twice to three times as thick with a variable 12v fan and be configured for 28w tap out of the box, this chip only supports single channel memory, but, that's fine....
32GB memory and 512GB storage then could use it for fairly serious software development (at least for my purposes). I'd like a relatively low-cost Raspberry Pi form factor x86_64 SBC that could pick up and grab to take with me, then plug into keyboard/mouse/display at destination (laptop screens are not large enough for me so I always have that addressed per the destinations I move between - as everyone is doing flex office style these days). Is WiFi going to be integrated too or will have to use a USB WiFi dongle? Need to see it running Linux - like latest Ubuntu 23.04 - with WiFi addressed under Linux in some manner. Any bluetooth? Can do wireless mouse with USB dongle if not...
16gb max on N100. Intel limit.
Got news about the Radax Nio 12L, NIO 12L with its Genio 1200 chip seems perfect for tinkering with AI.
Hello! Finally, is it on market? Really nessesary in my project... Can anybody give a link on ali or other shop?
Yes please make more videos with this board
So eager to upload the video you forgot the outro :D
Great info, as usual, but this video is chopped short, anyway, cheers mate.
Wow! This is a tiny computer, wherein processor was boosted to 3 GHz. Amazing! Are you interested in making a test with eGPU ?
What makes me interested is the CPU. Chuwi sells their next Gemibook XPro with this CPU for only $250. For a sizeable bump in performance compared to last year's N5100 this seems odd. I'd like to know why.
The answer is AVX2 support on alder lake efficiency cores
@@benjiderrick4590 How does that answer my question? In case you didn't quite get it, $250 for a full laptop is damn cheap, yes this CPU literally gives double the performance of last year model that costs around $100-150 more.
@@leledumbo this was for the sizeable bump in performance part.
As for why this chuwi laptop is cheaper, that's because chuwi is not the greatest quality especially in portable devices. Previous models had very poor LCD panels, subpar CPU performance (relative to other models using the same chip) and cheapo build quality. Also don't forget bios support isn't in their priority list
the performance maybe on-par with Ryzen 3 3300U (4C/4T)
I like that it appears to be able to fit inside my pi fixtures.
Did it ever come available? How does it compare to a pi5?
Where can we purchase this little beast with promising performance? I'd wonder.
I like the look of this, it has decent performance, credit card form factor, proper HDMI port. It woudn't take much to turn this in to a desktop computer replacement for every day tasks. When can I get one?
Lack of storage is a problem. It would be ideal if it had an NVME slot.
That thing is INSANE.
Wow Gamecube and Wii on an SBC? I don't recall seeing that too often, if not ever but I could be way off here...x86 is nice. Maybe the fact this is Windows is helping the performance.
Awesome little SBC, surprisingly it can dp as much as an mid-range Android tablet, Thanks for the review.
Does the video cut off at the end?
Yeah, bit messed up.
that is looking really reallyt interresting... low watt usuage with great power... :) :)
I didnt get the price ??
do you have more info on this, or will do a later review when it will be official ?
the n100 is only a single memory channel chip, it was interesting until the point when i found that out and for me single channel memory only is a deal breaker, i think it will be the same for many others
oh man, would love one of these
I’ll stick to my n6005 because it has 32 execution units in GPU compared to this SBC’s 24 execution units. The CPU in the N100 is 15% faster than the N6005, but the GPU from the N100 is 25% slower than the N6005. For Plex transcoding the N6005 is the better choice and better value, unless we can get this SBC for less than $120.
Now this chip gonna be amazing for low cost handheld pc gaming. Maybe new $250 price point to replace Loki Zero
i hope at least some of these alder lake-N SBCs will finally have a full service usb-c port.
Would this be good for home assistant or is there a more suited one you recommend
hey @eta prime I think you had some problem with your video render. It seems to cut off mid-sentence at the end.
Interested , pretty impressive!
I think those ITX like N100 can put inside the old platform with broken or un useful motherboard to turn them as console
Would be good to have wifi & bluetooth. What's the gpio controller? Is there a power switch or headers?
7:11 Each DDR5 module gets two 40bits busses, so DDR5 is (sort of) dual channel. Adding one stick of DDR5 Ram might not improve gaming performance
Would be nice to see how switch emulation fairs on it, and PS3
CPU wise my computer is a bit less powerful and I can run most Switch games at 30 fps, some at 60. I think the gpu would be holding it back though. Ps3... maybe.
Interesting... Did you try Steam OS/ChimeraOS on this hardware?
Should have just used a juicy 65 watt or a 100 watt plug. Make sure the PC can pull as much power the little board wants.
Always interested in linux.
for when a video of the new Beelink Eq12 pro , goood video*!
The N305 Beelink should be here soon