I love the PS3 it’s the most interesting console of all time to me. The fact the Cell may be able to run certain things faster than the 8-core Jaguar CPU is incredible and definitely ahead of its time.
it was the cheapest blu-ray player, had a web browser, could run linux, use mouse and keyboard, download music/videos and had 4 different card readers.... this is when blu-ray was brand new and was competing with hd-dvd(360 had a $150 add-on, that's all).
@@caliginousmoira8565 it also had built in WiFi and controllers were rechargeable. Plus HDMI. The 360 had none of that when it launched. Oh yeah, you also didn't have to pay $50 a year to play online with PS3.
@@samtepal3892 it was about the components, not the software of the playstation firmware. They barely used the architecture, if memory serves correct they actually installed an entirely different architecture on the systems. It was a publicity stunt to say the least, they gutted every single one of them so nothing even remotely reassembled a PlayStation by step 2.
Samte Pal it was the ability to use the OS Linux that was disabled which happened after a particular firmware update and made the super computer the military made by linking multiple ps3’s together useless. It also resulted in people being able to claim money from Sony die to them advertising the ps3 as a Linux computer only to remove it as they felt not enough people used the feature just like backwards compatibility.
And this didn’t last very long at all as they found it a pig to use and Sony ditched Linux support for the PS3. As others said it was a publicity stunt.
@@helloimuzumakikira1 I did it on my own since this is not my first time. But you can use this tutorial to help you out: ruclips.net/video/Ak9ZkRA-MOA/видео.html I recommend using artic silver 5 for the thermal paste I've been using that for my ps3 with no problems.
Man, what a great video! Deserves wayy more views. Loved how he went into detail of the pros and cons of things like the split ram and the standards at the time. Cant give this video enough credit.
I wish consoles today had interesting hardware, secret sauce that's not an x86 processor - I remember buying the PS3 because of it's exotic architecture - it gave me an excuse to buy it. I don't need another computer; today - video games look the same anyways no matter where you play them. Now even integrated graphics can game. If Modern consoles instead used non-x86 based specialized hardware that was harder to use - we might see more innovation on the games it plays.
I am telling you all of this. What Sony needed to do was if they couldn't delay the PS3 for a year and have NVIDIA give them a better GPU based on the GeForce 8000 series then Sony should have doubled the RAM to 512 Main and 512 VRAM. The main issue of the PS3 was the old type of GPU it used, it did not have unified shaders something the Xbox 360 had in 2005. If Sony had waited and released the PS3 in 2007 with more RAM and a better GPU it would have made a huge difference.
That's something that gets me. If only Sony waited till they got a better Nvidia GPU and added more RAM to be on par or more than the Xbox 360 how would the system fair? Especially multiplatform games, how would they have fared with such changes?
@@BlueGreyWolf not only that, by late 2007 Sony could have had released the PS3 with both the CPU and GPU using a 65nm die for both the CPU and GPU meaning more chips could be made on a single wafer and less energy consumption. today it is really expensive to die shrink but back in the mid 2000s it was way cheaper
I wish we had backwards compatibility for the PS5, at the level that we had for the early PS3. Sony could've, and should've, invested in emulation for the PS5, so that it can run PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP games. Even if its in the form of software emulation, as long as the games run well and relatively bug-free. There's so much good old games out there that people can't play on modern consoles. If people can emulate the PS3 on PC, the Sony should be able to do it on the PS5, considering they're the ones who manufactured it.
Would be cool if Sony did the PS3 Backwards Compatibility for PS5/4 just like they did with the PS2 with PS3 launch consoles. Literally adding in the CPU and GPU of the PS2 with the PS3 hardware!
@@BlueGreyWolf Yeah man, I know what you mean. I had the PS3 launch console. It was so cool being able to play PS1/2 games on it. B/c of this I got to play some classics that I otherwise probably wouldn't have. Games like Alundra, Tomba 1 & 2.
The PS3 may have been hard to code for, but it has some really good killer game's like Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriot's and Killzone 2 but what truly sets it apart from the current generation that Sony actually did right was Backwards compatibility, something that is severely lacking on the PS4, let's hope they won't make the same mistake with the PS5! It has to be backwards compatible just like the Xbox series X will be, and I'm not talking about streaming PS1,PS2 and PS3 games via PlayStation Now I'm talking they need to have it where you can take one of your game discs from your collection of games pop that disc in and be able to play it! I find it ridiculous in this day and age in the year 2020 Sony says they can't do this and they offer the latter for playing PS1-PS3 via PlayStation Now, this is utter BS, it comes down to the fact that Sony either doesn't have the money to invest in the proper R&D to implement such a technology in the PS5 or they just don't want to and are so out of touch with their fanbase that this is going to hurt them in the long term. Sony needs to do this if they wish for the PS5 to succeed in sales and to stay relevant in the video game industry as whole!
if only Sony did PS3pro when they launched the ps3slim to improve frame rate compared to xbone360 smoother framerate. that's the only flaw but the exclusive games took advantage of the ps3. ps3 for Life until I die 😁
It's my streaming device now, modded so I can watch various formats on my TV..still works great.. sony only cheaped out WiFi chip.. no other complaints
This reminds me of a PONIE FAN BOY who once told during the early days of RUclips, that the PS3 had the single most powerful processor ever invented, because it had 8 cores running at a total of 25.6GHZ 😂🤣😂🤣😂
They should have made a gen 2 of this processor and kept improving on it no matter how hard it was to use. Its a power house and could have revolutionized processors and gaming for the better if people took the time to learn how to utilize it. ITS SUCH A SHAME. Respect to naughty dog for sticking to it and figuring out how use it to its full potential. Naughty dog proved how powerfull it truly was. Now I want to see what could they do with a gen two of this in 2022 if they released a new version of the cell.
No it was horrible it was like putting an F1 engine in an economy car all power no control. The cell is overrated it’s only advantage was it was powerful for the time and had a gpu like architecture. No wonder it got scrapped it wasn’t a true CPU for general purposes. And as we learned it’s always better to have a CPU and GPU working together with fast memory. Sony could’ve spent the money on a decent cpu and higher end gpu for the PS3 and instead of selling at 600USD and still taking massive losses been ahead of the competition. And see only reason they spent so much on cell is someone at Sony told them this radical cpu/gpu hybrid would be enough for the console there was no gpu originally planned. So that ran up costs as well. So basically the cell was trying to solve problems that didn’t exist. We can offload rendering to a gpu and have a general processing cpu for the rest we didn’t need an overly complex hybrid. Also the cores in the cell weren’t flexible like a modern cpu. ALSO SONY DIDNT WORK ON ANY COMPILERS GOOD LUCK PROGRAMMING EFFICIENTLY WITHOUT SONY GIVING YOU SOURCE CODE TO WORK WITH 😂
@@mikehatten5738 eh, I'm mad about it too, being that I'm a playstation guy and the ps3 still has no games. But this stuff happens, they gambled and lost. Like Intel lost the bet about power house single core CPUs being the standard ( and they kept trying until AMD shut that down fairly recently too.) Nvidia with their stupid ass dual GPU idea. And Sony was sort of right with the whole no GPU thing with AMDs new "APU" processors. Now that I think about it, AMD has been spending almost the last decade trying to see Sony's ideas through, Weird. Anyways, the ps4 and Xbone both had 'minor' APUs, with the new 6000 series APUs a lot of interesting things are happening, like the GPD win4. Maybe sony will get back in the handheld game 🤔 and blow the switch out of the water, while also barely selling any.
@@Yixdy I will give intel ONE thing: Netburst sold. And sold very well. (And Northwood was pretty decent.) The whole idea of putting Cell into other things never materialized. It stayed with the PS3.
Let's not forget that the 360 had a breakdown rate of over 55%!! That is apalling. The Ps3 was 1.6% Very telling. That means a whole bunch of 360 sales are people re-buying it. And despite all of that It still outsold 360 at the end of the day. And I love the O.G. Ps3 with full backward compatability, blu ray player, and the best OS ever so far. The crossbar was awesome.
Sony were smoking some quality crack at the time, when they first announced ps3 the CELL was gonna be the only processer in it, handling video audio and cpu functions. Then the effects of the crack party wore off and they had to go hat in hand to nvidia to get a modified 7 series gpu from them, which they then dubbed "rsx reality synthesizer". It was basically delayed from 2005 to 2006 to get this gpu added and that also gave them problems with lack of supply at launch, and presumably developers getting dev kits late in the day to try and get games out for launch..
Fact is the original Cell would have been over 4Ghz with more cache and SPUs and better library support . BillGates put a stop to that by disrupting and stealing resources and causing the Cell IBM team to double duty in Xbox360 and this fall behind and under deliver on Cell specs .
@@MrInuhanyou123 i agree. For example Bioshock when they released it back in 2008 for ps3 it definitely studers constantly 30frames would drop to 10 at least sometime but on ps4 it keeps it lock on 60fps always, literally. And heck, even Wolfenstein 2 the new colossus it runs on 60fps, of course a few times a little bit it drops to 52 or 50 but its main performance is 60 so yeah. Oh and both of those games are Third party developers
What a great video! Man, Kinda funny to see how things play out. I wonder if sense the ps4 went back to a traditional x86 style process will it be way more easy to emulate in around 6 to 10 years than ps3 is.
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X86 is very hard to emulate as its a very bloated arch. The original Xbox used X86 and is one of the hardest systems to emulate
@ Indeed. It's actually seems to be the one that is hardest to get games running at 100% I don't think it's ever going to get to past 70% playable games. The one saving grace about the Xbox is Microsoft is adding alot of games to the backwards compatible list.
Does something akin to the CELL CPU still exist? I'd love to just have a board with something similiar on and fool around with it and see what I can do. My pipedream is still a PCIe accellerator card to improve PS3 emulation, lol. But I would love to just foola round with the CPU itself and see what would be possible. I know the PPU is just a PPC64, but what arch is the SPU, actually? Custom instruction set, methinks?
@@112188Francisco No, Apple silicon is just ARM processors, which have been around since the 1980s, long before playstation or cell was ever a thing. The cell architecture is unlike ARM and unlike X86-64.
Well clearly these consoles with unique architecture, the weakest point is the amount of RAM. If Ken Kutaragi designed the PS4, it would have a beast CPU were the GPU is underpowered in comparison to the CPU with 2GBs of RAM or 4GBs
They would have made their money back 100 fold if they kept them all having backwards compatible and more so with the ps4 but no they rather complain and moan about how much it would cost and not even think about the money the would make
Fallout and Bayonetta come to mind when it comes to 3rd party support on PS3. Not all bad of course and it got better (CoD and Vanquish come to mind) but it was definitely a rough first few years for early adopters like me. Thank god for Uncharted and motorstorm lol
uncharted 3 , last of us , infamous second son, games looking like that ran with 256mb of ram and 256mb of vram, it just shows how incompetent developers are these days
PS3 was a good lesson on trying to go too exotic for what is essentially a toy not a physics modeling computer. Live and learn, I think the best things to happen to gaming were the solid state hard drive and ray tracing.
0:28, priced at 599 USD... and we look at the table and it says "20GB Hard Disk: $ 499 US"... someone needs to check their privilige and think just a little bit before spouting things. You know those were expensive things when the +40 GB was priced at +100 USD.
I still injoy the Ps3 do this day but unfortunately sometimes i dint have much fun on the PS3 more than 360 at the time do to SONYS arrogance 😔 and the playtation's limitations. I love both 360 and PS3 from the bottom of my heart but im afraid i gotta have to say it what GamingBolt said in the video was true. And it make me see sad because if it wasn't for Katerego's (i think that was the founder of PSno's name) telling *us* the consumers to seek a seconds job as if their product didn't stink. Like i said, i still love the PS3 despite some of its flaws, but i cant denied that the PS3 dint brought me that HUGE amount of enjoyment more then the PS4 has given me today.
@@nathanalexandre9043 actually i did. Still wasn't satisfied enough till i got a PS4 and after 10 years, thank God i even had the pleasure to play with my best friend as soon as i got the chance...
here, I'm late but, the last of us, littlebigplanet, metal gear games, late generation call of duty games, killzone 3, uncharted, and some more 1st party games.
Ps3 was more powerful but xbox 360 was easier to code for and make games for it and the xbox 360 had unified memory which gave the allowed the game developers to get creative and use the ram in cool ways like the xbox 360 gpu was more powerful than the ps3 gpu but the ps3 cpu was more powerful than the xbox 360s cpu but both consoles were great both creating amazing graphics
People keep talking about the untapped potential of the ps3 to this day but reality is the ps3 reached its full potential already in 2009 with MGS4 and i doubt any other game could push it beyond that. it's like asking people to ride an ac130 gunship instead of standard commercial airplane and then boasting about all the weapons and technology even though none asked you to
@@busterscrugs even Naughty Dog had a hard time developing on PS3. Yeah the games came out incredible but it doesn't take away from the fact that the PS3 was terribly designed even though it was a super powered beast.
Good ol Killzone 3, another example where Sony flat out lies to the public showing completely rendered fake gameplay... Sony lied at its PS5 event too stating Project Athius was designed exclusively for the PS5 which it isn’t and they was a lie, they removed that statement from the video the next day after complaints I believe. In fact they’re were several time’s a timed exclusive or day 1 PC release games that Sony used the word ‘exclusive for PS5’ on... manipulative false marketing through and through. Designed to confuse you and make you ‘think’ all these games are only on the PS5 which they aren’t.
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Lmao found he salty triggered xbot fanbaby, keep crying
Most titles played far better in the 360. And then you had that Sony hack... The PS3 was an example of how not to make a games console. It was purely built to sell blue ray drives first, games second. That’s why it cost so much and the cell processor was one of the most stupid decisions Sony’s ever made! The Xbox 360 rocked that gen, Sony had to change the PS3 design a lot and slash its price heavily and offer AAA free games every month with PSN Plus to compete.. and that was with the 360’s atrocious failure rate!
@@maalikserebryakov Not in America it did not, also it only just beat it globally and that was purely down to the massive price drop Sony placed in the PS3 Slim, NOT anything else.
this video is just a big stinky load of playstation fanboy crap with no real technical stuff. CELL BE isn't a 8 core CPU! it is a single core "8 SPU" CPU.
@@maalikserebryakov yas yas yas! coz this is the only metric that matters lol. your corporate overlord can't even afford to make his turd pile of online service available outside western world lol. "for the players!" with region locked accounts.
The PS3 was Sony's biggest failure. They could have been forgiven if they made a bunch of great 1st party titles but they made too few too late. The majority of multiplatform titles looked PS2 quality and the 360 looked great.
Ps3 was sooo bad I couldn’t play it ,,, I like the ps4 approach games releasing this year looks a generation ahead of the games released at the beginning ,, I like the ps4 image quality a lot specially first party games on ps4 pro
I love the PS3 it’s the most interesting console of all time to me. The fact the Cell may be able to run certain things faster than the 8-core Jaguar CPU is incredible and definitely ahead of its time.
Yeah, great console! Even if I have a low opinion of the cell.
I mean, the Jaguar CPU was extremely weak so it's not that surprising.
Still have my original PS3 slim I bought ten years ago and it still works. Got over 200+ games all physical copies.
Wow
When a PS3 game looks and plays good, it looks and plays GOOD!
The one i still use my dad bought on release day (camped out overnight) still works great, i love it
I really miss the PS3 controller and the personality of the Playstation brand before the PS4.
For real. The PS4 is basically just a PC. PS3 was very unique.
Yh I get what you mean playstation under ken Kutaragi was better
The PS3 was made with love and passion that can still be felt in 2024
$599 in 2006 is equivalent to $765 today.
$599 in 2006 is equivalent to $1600+ today in my country.
Omg no wonder ps5 could be this much price only.
it was the cheapest blu-ray player, had a web browser, could run linux, use mouse and keyboard, download music/videos and had 4 different card readers.... this is when blu-ray was brand new and was competing with hd-dvd(360 had a $150 add-on, that's all).
@@caliginousmoira8565 great points
@@caliginousmoira8565 it also had built in WiFi and controllers were rechargeable. Plus HDMI. The 360 had none of that when it launched. Oh yeah, you also didn't have to pay $50 a year to play online with PS3.
I have 5 backwards compatible PS3s it's still a marvelous piece of technology.
How can i get one, u wanna sell?
@@ekechukwuuzoma8456 sure I'll sell one
@@ekechukwuuzoma8456 I have 1 still in box with inserts. Original 60 GB
@@RomeGoLARGE If you're selling one still, I'm down to buy one
Fun Fact: It was so powerful for its time that even the US military installed 1760 ps3 and made the cheapest supercomputer.
@@samtepal3892 it was about the components, not the software of the playstation firmware. They barely used the architecture, if memory serves correct they actually installed an entirely different architecture on the systems. It was a publicity stunt to say the least, they gutted every single one of them so nothing even remotely reassembled a PlayStation by step 2.
Samte Pal it was the ability to use the OS Linux that was disabled which happened after a particular firmware update and made the super computer the military made by linking multiple ps3’s together useless. It also resulted in people being able to claim money from Sony die to them advertising the ps3 as a Linux computer only to remove it as they felt not enough people used the feature just like backwards compatibility.
Pretty sure that was some marketing bullshit.
And this didn’t last very long at all as they found it a pig to use and Sony ditched Linux support for the PS3. As others said it was a publicity stunt.
Ryan4326 It was another classic Sony lie.
I still have my ps3 backwards compatible. I just reballed the cpu and added new thermal paste and cleaned it up. Plays just like brand new.
No one cares.
Niice mate
@@ShWade thanks for caring by replying sir
I want to replace the thermal paste in mine. I have the CECHC03 backwards compatible model. Is it hard to do? Did u use any tutorial to assist you?
@@helloimuzumakikira1 I did it on my own since this is not my first time. But you can use this tutorial to help you out:
ruclips.net/video/Ak9ZkRA-MOA/видео.html
I recommend using artic silver 5 for the thermal paste I've been using that for my ps3 with no problems.
Mgs4 and the last of us for me were almost on par with the next gen.
Mgs4 blew me away back then, even now it looks phenomenal
I got one recently, currently playing last of us, I have gta 5, what else should I get?
God of war 3 as well
Killzone 2 and 3 also
time will prove that is the best console ever manufactured
PS3 was ahead of its time
The PS3 was from an alternate timeline where multicore computing went asymmetrical.
Man, what a great video! Deserves wayy more views. Loved how he went into detail of the pros and cons of things like the split ram and the standards at the time. Cant give this video enough credit.
I wish consoles today had interesting hardware, secret sauce that's not an x86 processor - I remember buying the PS3 because of it's exotic architecture - it gave me an excuse to buy it. I don't need another computer; today - video games look the same anyways no matter where you play them. Now even integrated graphics can game. If Modern consoles instead used non-x86 based specialized hardware that was harder to use - we might see more innovation on the games it plays.
I am telling you all of this. What Sony needed to do was if they couldn't delay the PS3 for a year and have NVIDIA give them a better GPU based on the GeForce 8000 series then Sony should have doubled the RAM to 512 Main and 512 VRAM. The main issue of the PS3 was the old type of GPU it used, it did not have unified shaders something the Xbox 360 had in 2005. If Sony had waited and released the PS3 in 2007 with more RAM and a better GPU it would have made a huge difference.
That's something that gets me. If only Sony waited till they got a better Nvidia GPU and added more RAM to be on par or more than the Xbox 360 how would the system fair? Especially multiplatform games, how would they have fared with such changes?
@@BlueGreyWolf not only that, by late 2007 Sony could have had released the PS3 with both the CPU and GPU using a 65nm die for both the CPU and GPU meaning more chips could be made on a single wafer and less energy consumption. today it is really expensive to die shrink but back in the mid 2000s it was way cheaper
Sony 1st party games literally saved Sony & the PS brand.
It wasn't just 1st party games but it was also because Microsoft started getting cocky with the connect.
@@spongebobgotthesudsbecause5169 That and Red Ring of Death prevented Microsoft from dominating completely.
@@Mbrace818 Can u say the same with the PS3 yellow light of death ???
@@remyroland8016 It wasn't as common, so not really.
@@Mbrace818 PS3 had far more problems than X360 and that was facts
I wish we had backwards compatibility for the PS5, at the level that we had for the early PS3. Sony could've, and should've, invested in emulation for the PS5, so that it can run PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP games. Even if its in the form of software emulation, as long as the games run well and relatively bug-free. There's so much good old games out there that people can't play on modern consoles. If people can emulate the PS3 on PC, the Sony should be able to do it on the PS5, considering they're the ones who manufactured it.
Would be cool if Sony did the PS3 Backwards Compatibility for PS5/4 just like they did with the PS2 with PS3 launch consoles. Literally adding in the CPU and GPU of the PS2 with the PS3 hardware!
@@BlueGreyWolf Yeah man, I know what you mean. I had the PS3 launch console. It was so cool being able to play PS1/2 games on it. B/c of this I got to play some classics that I otherwise probably wouldn't have. Games like Alundra, Tomba 1 & 2.
The PS3 may have been hard to code for, but it has some really good killer game's like Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriot's and Killzone 2 but what truly sets it apart from the current generation that Sony actually did right was Backwards compatibility, something that is severely lacking on the PS4, let's hope they won't make the same mistake with the PS5! It has to be backwards compatible just like the Xbox series X will be, and I'm not talking about streaming PS1,PS2 and PS3 games via PlayStation Now I'm talking they need to have it where you can take one of your game discs from your collection of games pop that disc in and be able to play it! I find it ridiculous in this day and age in the year 2020 Sony says they can't do this and they offer the latter for playing PS1-PS3 via PlayStation Now, this is utter BS, it comes down to the fact that Sony either doesn't have the money to invest in the proper R&D to implement such a technology in the PS5 or they just don't want to and are so out of touch with their fanbase that this is going to hurt them in the long term. Sony needs to do this if they wish for the PS5 to succeed in sales and to stay relevant in the video game industry as whole!
😂 not having backwards compatibility... really hurt PS4 right lol.
if only Sony did PS3pro when they launched the ps3slim to improve frame rate compared to xbone360 smoother framerate. that's the only flaw but the exclusive games took advantage of the ps3. ps3 for Life until I die 😁
For 2006 it was a beast... 8 cores in a time when it was mostly 1 cores or sometimes 2 cores... surely Sony have some balls to do that.
Ps5 vs 1760 ps3! This battle will be legendary!
PS3 WIN PS5 IS CHEAP TRASH BUT WE WILL SE IN FUTURE I GUESS
Ps5 ain't that much more powerful with the CPU.
Very informative video.
It's my streaming device now, modded so I can watch various formats on my TV..still works great.. sony only cheaped out WiFi chip.. no other complaints
Nice technical discussion! Thank you
This reminds me of a PONIE FAN BOY who once told during the early days of RUclips, that the PS3 had the single most powerful processor ever invented, because it had 8 cores running at a total of 25.6GHZ 😂🤣😂🤣😂
They should have made a gen 2 of this processor and kept improving on it no matter how hard it was to use. Its a power house and could have revolutionized processors and gaming for the better if people took the time to learn how to utilize it. ITS SUCH A SHAME.
Respect to naughty dog for sticking to it and figuring out how use it to its full potential. Naughty dog proved how powerfull it truly was. Now I want to see what could they do with a gen two of this in 2022 if they released a new version of the cell.
lol MGSV is the epitome of it's power.
No it was horrible it was like putting an F1 engine in an economy car all power no control. The cell is overrated it’s only advantage was it was powerful for the time and had a gpu like architecture. No wonder it got scrapped it wasn’t a true CPU for general purposes. And as we learned it’s always better to have a CPU and GPU working together with fast memory. Sony could’ve spent the money on a decent cpu and higher end gpu for the PS3 and instead of selling at 600USD and still taking massive losses been ahead of the competition. And see only reason they spent so much on cell is someone at Sony told them this radical cpu/gpu hybrid would be enough for the console there was no gpu originally planned. So that ran up costs as well.
So basically the cell was trying to solve problems that didn’t exist. We can offload rendering to a gpu and have a general processing cpu for the rest we didn’t need an overly complex hybrid. Also the cores in the cell weren’t flexible like a modern cpu.
ALSO SONY DIDNT WORK ON ANY COMPILERS GOOD LUCK PROGRAMMING EFFICIENTLY WITHOUT SONY GIVING YOU SOURCE CODE TO WORK WITH 😂
@@mikehatten5738 eh, I'm mad about it too, being that I'm a playstation guy and the ps3 still has no games. But this stuff happens, they gambled and lost. Like Intel lost the bet about power house single core CPUs being the standard ( and they kept trying until AMD shut that down fairly recently too.) Nvidia with their stupid ass dual GPU idea. And Sony was sort of right with the whole no GPU thing with AMDs new "APU" processors. Now that I think about it, AMD has been spending almost the last decade trying to see Sony's ideas through, Weird. Anyways, the ps4 and Xbone both had 'minor' APUs, with the new 6000 series APUs a lot of interesting things are happening, like the GPD win4. Maybe sony will get back in the handheld game 🤔 and blow the switch out of the water, while also barely selling any.
There's a reason (multiple reasons) modern CPU's have multiple general purpose cores and heavy SIMD based tasks are pinned to the GPU.
@@Yixdy I will give intel ONE thing: Netburst sold. And sold very well. (And Northwood was pretty decent.)
The whole idea of putting Cell into other things never materialized. It stayed with the PS3.
i just bought one with backwards compability a month ago
The playstation 3 is amazing
🤣🤦🏻♂️
Let's not forget that the 360 had a breakdown rate of over 55%!! That is apalling. The Ps3 was 1.6% Very telling. That means a whole bunch of 360 sales are people re-buying it. And despite all of that It still outsold 360 at the end of the day. And I love the O.G. Ps3 with full backward compatability, blu ray player, and the best OS ever so far. The crossbar was awesome.
When the rrod happened Microsoft fixed mine for free.
Not really. Microsoft would fix them for free
@@nissan_6828thats still pretty pathetic of microsoft designing such a garbage machine
Sony were smoking some quality crack at the time, when they first announced ps3 the CELL was gonna be the only processer in it, handling video audio and cpu functions. Then the effects of the crack party wore off and they had to go hat in hand to nvidia to get a modified 7 series gpu from them, which they then dubbed "rsx reality synthesizer". It was basically delayed from 2005 to 2006 to get this gpu added and that also gave them problems with lack of supply at launch, and presumably developers getting dev kits late in the day to try and get games out for launch..
just imagine if cell is develop today how powerful it will turn out to be 😱
i think Apple M1/M2 processors similar and Nvidia A100 High Performance computing on AI
Fact is the original Cell would have been over 4Ghz with more cache and SPUs and better library support . BillGates put a stop to that by disrupting and stealing resources and causing the Cell IBM team to double duty in Xbox360 and this fall behind and under deliver on Cell specs .
Ps3 > Ps4
I was a little disappointed with the ps4.
Me too i play my ps3 more over the ps4. I mostly got the ps4 for exclusives and yakuza games after that I went back to my ps3.
@@fuentesjuanjose90 awww thats to bad man. But, dont get me wrong i respect your opinion. I just wonder what make you disppointed about the PS4?
The CPU of course. 60 fps is too much. 60 fps should be number 1. 30 is ok for cutscenes.
There were barely any 60fps games on ps3 and even 30fls games.ran like crap. Ps4 is way better for that
@@MrInuhanyou123 i agree. For example Bioshock when they released it back in 2008 for ps3 it definitely studers constantly 30frames would drop to 10 at least sometime but on ps4 it keeps it lock on 60fps always, literally. And heck, even Wolfenstein 2 the new colossus it runs on 60fps, of course a few times a little bit it drops to 52 or 50 but its main performance is 60 so yeah. Oh and both of those games are Third party developers
What a great video! Man, Kinda funny to see how things play out. I wonder if sense the ps4 went back to a traditional x86 style process will it be way more easy to emulate in around 6 to 10 years than ps3 is.
X86 is very hard to emulate as its a very bloated arch. The original Xbox used X86 and is one of the hardest systems to emulate
@ Indeed. It's actually seems to be the one that is hardest to get games running at 100% I don't think it's ever going to get to past 70% playable games.
The one saving grace about the Xbox is Microsoft is adding alot of games to the backwards compatible list.
Does something akin to the CELL CPU still exist? I'd love to just have a board with something similiar on and fool around with it and see what I can do.
My pipedream is still a PCIe accellerator card to improve PS3 emulation, lol. But I would love to just foola round with the CPU itself and see what would be possible. I know the PPU is just a PPC64, but what arch is the SPU, actually? Custom instruction set, methinks?
apple m1?
@@112188Francisco No, Apple silicon is just ARM processors, which have been around since the 1980s, long before playstation or cell was ever a thing.
The cell architecture is unlike ARM and unlike X86-64.
"but what arch is the SPU, actually? Custom instruction set, methinks?" Both the PPE and SPE are RISC architectures, as per wikipedia.
Just get a good CPU and GPU. Then you'll have both good sequential conditional heavy performance and SIMD performance.
The last real consoles were that gen. They were unique.
Well clearly these consoles with unique architecture, the weakest point is the amount of RAM.
If Ken Kutaragi designed the PS4, it would have a beast CPU were the GPU is underpowered in comparison to the CPU with 2GBs of RAM or 4GBs
@@DDT-lr3zz major issue with ps4 was the cpu. The hey tried to use the compute units to do the heavy lifting.
@@markmeadows7093 Well i needed a better GPU as well.
Yeah. PC master race took over after that but mainly because of cross platforming issues not performance
@@maalikserebryakov sucks because that’s what made the games unique
Thanks for the video. It helped out alot to explain that gaming oddity that was the ps3s architecture to people like me that don't know shite about it
Thing is that developers used the easier way to port games over quality.. ps3 is a data center. That sony and us will miss really.
this is my favorite buy, even if it has disadvantage, but it never kept my experience down🎉
Someone stole my ps3 yestersay Lol
Lol damn people stealing ps3s in 2020
They would have made their money back 100 fold if they kept them all having backwards compatible and more so with the ps4 but no they rather complain and moan about how much it would cost and not even think about the money the would make
Backwards compatibility is over hyped... mainly by xbox fans who don't have great current gen games.
@@annoyingasshole3324 To be fair, it's a genuinely great feature.
Good video. Would like more like this
It seems like only yesterday I was nagging my dad to get me one of these things! Boy how time flies!
Fallout and Bayonetta come to mind when it comes to 3rd party support on PS3. Not all bad of course and it got better (CoD and Vanquish come to mind) but it was definitely a rough first few years for early adopters like me. Thank god for Uncharted and motorstorm lol
uncharted 3 , last of us , infamous second son, games looking like that ran with 256mb of ram and 256mb of vram, it just shows how incompetent developers are these days
Thats what i was thinking nowadays they eat gigabytes for breakfast
Developers are just being lazy nowadays, relies on x86 lazy ass architecture
F1 2020: PS4 vs XBOX vs PC please ❤
PS3 was a good lesson on trying to go too exotic for what is essentially a toy not a physics modeling computer. Live and learn, I think the best things to happen to gaming were the solid state hard drive and ray tracing.
Sony can do whatever they want.
PlayStation has all the power.
I bought a fat ps3 just to have it because the console design was so unique. I'm aware of its hardware flaws but that's okay. Lol
0:28, priced at 599 USD... and we look at the table and it says "20GB Hard Disk: $ 499 US"... someone needs to check their privilige and think just a little bit before spouting things. You know those were expensive things when the +40 GB was priced at +100 USD.
Just goes to show how tech evolves
Not condemning but the content is almost the same with Modern Vintage Gamer content 8 months ago
Why only 360p?
But as it is an old In-Order architecture, a core 2 quad (for comparison) would be more powerful for the generals computes in gaming I think.
I upscale and stream the PS3 just shy of 4K60 👀
When you say of all time we're not exactly talking centuries are we..
I still injoy the Ps3 do this day but unfortunately sometimes i dint have much fun on the PS3 more than 360 at the time do to SONYS arrogance 😔 and the playtation's limitations. I love both 360 and PS3 from the bottom of my heart but im afraid i gotta have to say it what GamingBolt said in the video was true. And it make me see sad because if it wasn't for Katerego's (i think that was the founder of PSno's name) telling *us* the consumers to seek a seconds job as if their product didn't stink. Like i said, i still love the PS3 despite some of its flaws, but i cant denied that the PS3 dint brought me that HUGE amount of enjoyment more then the PS4 has given me today.
You probably didn't try hard enough.
@@nathanalexandre9043 actually i did. Still wasn't satisfied enough till i got a PS4 and after 10 years, thank God i even had the pleasure to play with my best friend as soon as i got the chance...
Make video on backwards compatibility
sounds alot like the apple m1 processors
I edited this comment so you could never know what was written before.
Probably nothing different besides a spelling error
Please give games list played in this video.
i wont praise the shared memory, this ahrdware hindered gaming back then
X86 back in that time is slow, power PC is master race
Yeahh PS3 and xbox360 were master race in 2005-2006
I don't get the overused jaguar processors line
What are the some of the best games that make proper use of the cell processor?
here, I'm late but, the last of us, littlebigplanet, metal gear games, late generation call of duty games, killzone 3, uncharted, and some more 1st party games.
Battlefield 4
Sony make Ps3 only for killzone and last of us 👍👍👍
Ps3 was more powerful but xbox 360 was easier to code for and make games for it and the xbox 360 had unified memory which gave the allowed the game developers to get creative and use the ram in cool ways like the xbox 360 gpu was more powerful than the ps3 gpu but the ps3 cpu was more powerful than the xbox 360s cpu but both consoles were great both creating amazing graphics
The ps3 had a more powerful GPU.
@@julek4248Not true. Xbox 360 had a very modern ATI GPU with unified shader architecture, while the PS3 had a weaker and more outdated Nvidia GPU
@@deemster4249 ok but what about the Cpu
@@julek4248 Yeah PS3’s Cell has quite a bit more peak power than Xbox 360’s Xenon
3:59 is there a subreddit for this? r/ATMmachine or something? 😂
Let hope this be a lesson to Sony; dont over ambitious...
The cell is not 8 core wtf it's been 15years get it right....anyways beast of a machine
Is 7 core (the 8th one is deactivated)
People keep talking about the untapped potential of the ps3 to this day but reality is the ps3 reached its full potential already in 2009 with MGS4 and i doubt any other game could push it beyond that.
it's like asking people to ride an ac130 gunship instead of standard commercial airplane and then boasting about all the weapons and technology even though none asked you to
Mgsv push the hardware to absolute limits
Not true, The Last of Us launched in 2013 and it pushed the PS3's hardware further than any other game.
Fake gamers 😂😂😂 tlou 😂😂😂 mgs😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
PS3's cell processor was a huge mistake.
Naughty Dog games beg to differ.
@@busterscrugs even Naughty Dog had a hard time developing on PS3. Yeah the games came out incredible but it doesn't take away from the fact that the PS3 was terribly designed even though it was a super powered beast.
@@discod992
Ps3 outsold xBox
so no
Killzone 3, iconic? Lol!
I know right! He didn't even mention uncharted 2 or God of War
Please
Imagine a Pentium CPU running at 10Ghz!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Nintendo 64 ALSO used rambus.
Same thing with intel's socket 423 platform. And we all know how much THAT sucked!
Well look where it got us now with Intel monopoly. I think Intel held us back and continue to hold us back on CPU progression.
Good ol Killzone 3, another example where Sony flat out lies to the public showing completely rendered fake gameplay... Sony lied at its PS5 event too stating Project Athius was designed exclusively for the PS5 which it isn’t and they was a lie, they removed that statement from the video the next day after complaints I believe. In fact they’re were several time’s a timed exclusive or day 1 PC release games that Sony used the word ‘exclusive for PS5’ on... manipulative false marketing through and through. Designed to confuse you and make you ‘think’ all these games are only on the PS5 which they aren’t.
Lmao found he salty triggered xbot fanbaby, keep crying
Killzone 2 was the one with the infamous prerender.
YOU CAN'T JUST ADD THE SPE'S AND THE DUAL THREADED POWERPC CORE TOGETHER.
Its like adding your cpu cores and gpu cores together. Its bullshit!
PowerPC
The last of us 1 is ovverated graphically. Killzone 2 and 3 and god of war 3 and ascension are far superior
The G in GPU stands for "Giraffe."
Keep dreaming
Most titles played far better in the 360. And then you had that Sony hack... The PS3 was an example of how not to make a games console. It was purely built to sell blue ray drives first, games second. That’s why it cost so much and the cell processor was one of the most stupid decisions Sony’s ever made! The Xbox 360 rocked that gen, Sony had to change the PS3 design a lot and slash its price heavily and offer AAA free games every month with PSN Plus to compete.. and that was with the 360’s atrocious failure rate!
and yet Ps3 outsold the Lbox
@@maalikserebryakov Not in America it did not, also it only just beat it globally and that was purely down to the massive price drop Sony placed in the PS3 Slim, NOT anything else.
63% wrong but whatever floats your boat chum.
No mention of mgs4 is pretty lame
ps3 is a bottle necker machine
gaystation sucks xbox is king
cope more
PlayStation won. You *Lose*
this video is just a big stinky load of playstation fanboy crap with no real technical stuff. CELL BE isn't a 8 core CPU! it is a single core "8 SPU" CPU.
seethe more :)
Cell goes Brrr and outsold Lbox
@@maalikserebryakov yas yas yas! coz this is the only metric that matters lol. your corporate overlord can't even afford to make his turd pile of online service available outside western world lol. "for the players!" with region locked accounts.
And no games .
Doesnt care i haved done them on ps4
The PS3 was Sony's biggest failure. They could have been forgiven if they made a bunch of great 1st party titles but they made too few too late. The majority of multiplatform titles looked PS2 quality and the 360 looked great.
Tf they had a way better first party lineup 😂
Ps3 was sooo bad I couldn’t play it ,,, I like the ps4 approach games releasing this year looks a generation ahead of the games released at the beginning ,, I like the ps4 image quality a lot specially first party games on ps4 pro
Ps3 barely runs gta 4 and gta 5
I still play the crap outta my PS3!