Joe Rogan on Steven Seagal Doing Aikido 😲👀
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- UFC commentator Joe Rogan talks about Steven Seagal, Aikido and why this martial arts discipline doesn't work in real fighting.
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Steven Seagal's profession seems to require a certain amount of cooperation from their opponent.
😂😂
great literary value...!!!! 😅
Commitment ..
Yeah never a good sign of a martial art when someone who is supposed to be trying to end your life has to cooperate with you to make it effective.
The opponent who attacks will give you their center of gravity.
Can someone please tell Joe to stop saying that aikido was used by the samurai for hand to hand combat. I’m extremely disappointed that he would say such craziness. Aikido was created in 1920 by morihei ueshiba. The hand to hand combat used by the samurai was Jiu-jitsu. True jiu jitsu not the Brazilian version.
It's just lazy on his part because he heard someone else say it.
Not even that, the art martial that they practice was daitō-ryū aikijūjutsu (spelling maybe wrong). And yes, the guy is very uninformed!!
It WAS invented with samurai war disarming scenarios in mind, It's just that it was invented long after the samurais were still around. Remember that Joe grew up before the internet age, it may not be his first instinct to immediately Google everything. If this is something he believed for years (told to him by a source he thought was reliable) he will be lit it.
The samurai were long gone when aikido was made.
You are correct. Aikido is too young in the samurai period. It was always the ancient jiu-jitsu.
Credit where it's due: Steven Seagal has never lost a fight with a buffet.
Cold blooded!✌️
A yo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol hahahaha
Haha many are starving nowadays so right on 👍🏾
Fatality
Steven Seagal has been a fighter his hole life. He has actively fought common sense, reality, and logic.
You forget his most formidable opponent. Diabetes...
he is a clown
“Whole?”
hole?
Also his weight
I love listening to somebody talk about something they know nothing about
i know right? Aikido was invented in the 40s not in the age of samurai 😂
Not me
Why is Rogan so insecure and still hating on Seagal?
@@jonmolina948 because dude is a bully who likes to punch down and Steven seagal is an easy target
@@sequoia1171they're both cheapskate balding clowns far past their glory days of early grifting.😂
Apparently, every time anyone on Earth gets into a fight. the opponent will be a professional MMA fighter.
😂 good point. 99.8% of the time, it’s a drunk that’s going to commit so aikido is perfect
No MMA stands a good shot of lead in the ankles...
@@ChrisAntoniou-k1h no it's not a good point. It's not about the opponent potentially being a professional. Joe's point is why would you train something that only works on the most clueless uncoordinated people
You don’t see Joe challenging Steven at anytime, it’s laughable.
Seeing Steven getting destroyed is what would be laughable, Joe would wipe the floor with him.
@@joee7626 With you 100%. Rogan is a legit kickboxer, has legit BJJ, and still has a ton of power. Steven wouldn't have beaten him in his prime, unless maybe Rogan was wearing a full samurai armor to weigh him down.
Steven is just the cook
His master was also a cook!
a cook with a gun
As a teen I had a brown belt in Aikido. It gives you a different close combat perspective. It’s about weight shifts, if you are quick, you can certainly get advantage in many situations. It’s not just about swords, even knives, clubs, etc… it can be super useful. Now Daniel Cormier, well that might be a different story.
But those front kick KOs you see, that’s one of Aikido’s best arsenal.
Stephen Segal is a legit buffet expert and will destroy anyone standing in his way between him and the buffet.
Segal vs Lizzo
Never tested
AND UNDERAGE GIRLS, LOOK UP WHAT KATHERINE HIEGLE SAID ABOUT HIM HITTING ON HER WHEN SHE WAS 16
In other words....it works in a very specific situation....against a committing armed opponent. Thats pretty cool
It's bs, even if a samurai did it. If they lost there sword in battle they had a smaller dagger etc and not all samurai even use a sword
@blazet300 as soon as guns were invented, samurai quit using swords and used guns.
Not really. Besides, with Aikido, if someone does come up and try to grab you like the people he used as examples, the whole point is to stop it before it gets to that.
@@user-kn1uj2tp6rNo, they used both. Archaic guns were very slow to reload and had short range. Melee weapons were used alongside them for centuries after their introduction.
Joe Rogan the samurai invented Jujutsu Not Aikido ! But Aikido Like All Japanese Grappling Arts Their Ancestor Is Jujutsu
The videos that they show Steven Segall “throwing” guys around isn’t really him “throwing them”. They are rolling in the direction of energy so they don’t get their bones broken during a demonstration. In real life a person who isn’t trained to go in the direction of what looks like a throw chooses to instead resists against it, they face the likelihood of getting that bone/joint/ligament getting severely damaged.
He's barely touching them in that video. Bullshido
That's only true if there was an actual throw. Steven Seagull merely stands there, flapping his arms, while his ukes toss themselves in the air. Yes, you need to know how to break fall, but that's about it, in this case.
This wasn't invented until after 1900. Long after Samurai were gone
Was based on aiki-jutsu. All the techniques are in normal ju-jitsu. Difference with aikijitsu is they'd train in three levels: basic (strikes and techniques but pretty stationary), intermediate (some strikes but more dynamic); high (few strikes, very dynamic). Aikido took the 'highest level' but to be honest it missed out on the basics which I think couldn't really be ommitted.
Not that long in historical terms. Decades apart. Samurai stopped being after the Meiji restoration in 1868.
@@bertymartinez6241 yeah but it only took off after WO2. So its not exactly the stuff samurai used. Samurai were already using firearms in the 19th century and before anyway. This guy makes it sound like Samurai were using it when they only had swords.
completely false YES it was invented then by copying Jujitsu modern day Aikido Hapkido and Judo ALL comes from Aki Jitsu all this wrist grabing and re-directing force and taking balance from Japan and from the Samarai period ... why do you think there is no punching in any of those arts ??? because there all based on sword defence !!! and have little value today at all.
@@HarmvanderWilt Samurai were using firearms since Sengoku Jidai and before. And while Samurai were abolished in Meji Restoration as a class - it doesn't mean Samurai families disappeared.
History is not that neat.
Also aikido while modern fighting style has it's roots in Aiki-jujutsu which goes back to like 10th century.
Jesus, Joe - read a book. Your history of Aikido is totally wrong
That would take away from doing drugs and believing he's enlightened.
I mean, generally, Joe is wrong about a lot. He says it with such commitment though
Regardless who or how it was invented, it is total BS. I feel so bad for those guys that put years into learning some BS martial art only to find out it does not work. I knew a guy that was a serious Karate master. He was known as that guy since 3rd grade. Nobody would mess with him because we were all afraid of him. He was in some magazines and won many national titles. Nobody doubted him. In senior year of HS we were at a party across town and there were a lot of guys form another HS that did not know to be afraid of him. He got his ass beat by a guy half his size. It was a rough senior year for him.
Correct. AikiJujutsu is the art. Aikido was invented after the founder found God and didn't want to kill people anymore
I mean he's never been right about anything
Have you ever seen Steven’s knuckles? You judge him by watching this videos in which he trained his students. This is an exercise, not a real fight. I once seen him doing a rapid kick in a grappling situation. This man deserves more credit.
Those knuckles are definitely not from aikido. Actually the guy did few other martial arts as well, including karate.
in his 20-30 , yeah he was fast and strong but since 40+, he became a joke and fat and slow as sh*t, today he just use aikido art as an excuse to not move, his opponent are the one doing the gymnastic to make steven ''art'' credible
@@kaintkk Just like majority of 40+ guys out there.
The Samurai used Japanese Jiu-jitsu for combat. It was very effective and battle tested. Actual japanese Jiu-jitsu is still very effective even though it has been watered-down for obvious reasons. The problem is that it is not sexy and pretty or able to be turned into a sport, so it's not popular. Judo, Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, and Aikido are direct descendants of Japanese Jiu-jitsu.
Yeah bjj is essentially katame-waza from judo.
yes THE LAST PART is correct why cant people understand that hapkido as well it all comes from Jiu jitsu
Morehei Ueshiba, Creator of Aikido was born 1883. Era of Samurai ended 1870. so yeah…
he would have been 7 LOL
@@klw3786 you mean negative 13... Who taught you math?....LOL He was 7 in 1890 20 years later.
Were there any samurai left, any traditions and practices still evident?
Came here to say the same, aikido started after the samurai era. This guy is so wrong speaking lies as they were true…
A lot of the techniques practiced by Aikido may have been heavily influenced by disarm techniques used by the samurai. Ueshiba is known to have studied a lot of different martial arts so he might have learned old samurai CQC techniques and incorporated them into his martial art.
Aikido is defined as an art that specializes in using pivoting motions, and the momentum of the attacker, to neutralize the attack.
It works assuming your opponent is also using Akido, which was probably very realistic during its original time period.
Both must know the same shit otherwise it won't work LOL.
The issue with a lot of “demostrative" moves in martial arts (and I said it as someone who has practiced it before), is that they only work under ideal situations, just like a partner cooperating with you for doing it.
There is a lot of great things to learn from traditional martial arts, but there is also a lot to understand about what is really aplicable and in what context it is.
Right, deflection and redirection of motion.
My very limited experience, it seemed to be all about using your opponents momentum to put him into a position in which he is precariously balanced - then taking advantage of that.
When someone that's trained in Aikido grabs you, unless you're on crack, you will feel pain and you will move in a way to alleviate that pain. I've trained in Isshinryu karate for over 2 decades and when I attended an Aikido seminar and was stopped by the instructor, I did whatever came naturally to me, in the moment, to stop the feeling of joints being bent in a way that they shouldn't be bent.
Train 2 weeks jiu jitsu you’ll be able to make him beg lol
Steven did variety of martial arts not aikido he did karate judo kendo wing chun and did train under machado brothers in BJJ he can handle himself and advantage he is a big dude
The thing about training is you subconsciously go along with what they are doing as a student. If he was attacking you, you likely wouldn't allow him to carefully grab your hand, wrist or elbow. You would be grappling and striking in a way he couldn't predict. Nobody wants to upstage an "instructor " so they go along to get along in the hopes of actually learning something instead of being a practice dummy randomly to make the instructor feel good about himself.
I don't know why people think Seagal is a joke when even Anderson Silva trained with him and you can see it in youtube.
@@zupremo9141 they are good keyboard and RUclips story why don't they go to his face and say it see where they end up 😂😂😂
Coming from a law enforcement perspective, aikido is very good for apprehension of suspects. Wrist locks and submission techniques are great for that. But, once the fight goes to the ground, you have to know jj. When I was in law enforcement, we were taught both aikido and bjj.
Where are you law enforcement?
Agreed, I studied it for a couple of years and have used it quite successfully while working in the security sector. It’s extremely effective if used in the right context. Fighting in a ring isn’t one of them.
OMG, how dare you oppose the illustrious opinion of Joe Rogan (on something he is clueless about)?
Bj you say? Where is your unit located?
@@miquelmoorrees6010 I'm not anymore. But, it was in Utah 15 years ago.
Everyone is forgetting Steven Seagal wasn’t some average size guy. In his prime he was in shape and a big dude, he could definitely defend himself and dish out some damage because of his size alone. Not just because he’s an Aikido master, but he also knew and practiced other martial arts as well.
Dude, that bullshit "fighting style" isn't working on anyone who knows how to fight even a little bit. What asshole is gonna run at you with their arm straight out? His style much like the man himself, is complete bullshit
Isn't he like 6-4?
Now he's fat lol
Yes
Practiced the art of waddling while people threw themselves at the floor more like.
When steven Segal was born, the doctor slapped his mother.
😂😂😂
What, because the doctor was so upset she had made such a weirdo?
@@Grintock Not so well known now-adays, doctors used to slap babies after birth to get them breathing.
I heard the doctor was committed and Steven flipped him 😂
Oh keep going guys.. 🤣👍👍 I am loving this thread.
You are not experienced enough in Aikido to know better. A Black Belt or Shodan, only means you have learned the basics and are ready to move forward in the arts. I mix 14 years of Shodokan Karate, 5 years of Boxing training, 10 years of summer school wrestling and many years of Aikido, from 1984. I am no master but found Aikido, once I became proficient, in the art of Aikido, completed my circle of fighting skills. Aikido has literally saved my life and the life of another.
Lmao you're a legit geriatric. No modern professional MMA fighter with any success has an akido background. Discipline and repetition of movements and conditioning are good things that akido teaches... But so does every other martial art. Or it should
How would you know more just from training that nonsense that doesn't actually test anything? That's his point. Go TEST it then come back to us with the video
I call bullcrap.
@@kornorstonepictures2333 you're about 75 years old so I won't hold it against you, your generation genuinely doesn't know better. There are no MMA fighters with an akido speciality. In fact there's this dude in China who goes around challenging the grandmasters of Akido, Wing Chun, Etc to no rule fights (short of 🥜 shots, head kicks, biting etc) and has literally embarrassed every single one.
He's not even a professionally MMA fighter and only started training later in life and still whooped them ALL.
The principles taught in akido, like discipline, repetition of movements, conditioning etc can all be good things... But those aren't only taught in akido and you'd have the added bonus of *actually* being able to fight 😂
@@McGeezle I agree with you and talk from experience, on and off the streets. I fought on the mat, in wrestling and martial arts competitions and only on the street as a boxer and proved highly proficient against most, on the street. I was attacked from the rear, punched, right behind my ear and hit the deck hard. He proceeded to punch and kick me. It was everything to keep my wits about me and block off, stand up and knock down this Tarzan looking maniac fool. He got right back up and started darting his punches at my face. I had to kick him in the mid section and do a dubble upper cut, into his eye and chin. He went down again but came up slower and I said. Nice Fight! Put my hand out he slapped it and I told him to go address his wounds. That really pissed him off. If you want to hear more about this story. Just say so. I have the police and DAs report.
yeah, no, it wasn't invented to fight samurai, etc. it wasn't "the Japanese" who invented Aikido, it was a specific Japanese man Morihei Ueshiba who created Aikido. Certainly the use of the sword in the Japanese culture and their indigenous martial arts includes or considers that heavily, and that may be true about Aikijutsu/Daito Ryu Aikijutsu, but Aikido was born out of martial arts expert O'Sensei Morihei Ueshiba having a spiritual experience, and creating a way to embue his art with spiritual perspective and principle.
he was an expert in several different arts, and he was also a deeply spiritual man, supernatural things, happened around him, and through him, … It seems like you had to be either him, or a Jedi to be able to do the art.
His life story is very interesting and worth reading about…
Hmmm, didnt Segal say he trained him?
@@DemiGod.. him who?
@@DemiGod..No! He never even met him.
@DemiGod.. I think he did say that but I think also the founder of Aikido died when Seagal was an adolescent.
Aikido did not appear from a vacuum. Ueshiba was known to have studied many kinds of martial arts before he created Aikido. Disarm techniques like wrist and arm locks that are a staple of Aikido was used by the Samurai to fight against armed and armored opponents. It’s most likely Ueshiba learned these old techniques and incorporated it into Aikido.
Daito Ryu Aikijujitsu -> Samurai
Aikido -> Ueshiba Morihei (founder of Aikido who was student of one of the last Takeda-Samurai, Takeda Sokaku.
Thank you for clarification. Truly appreciated.
Yes, Aiki-ju, is way different than soft style Aikido
Steven seagall is legitimate akito expert. He will break your wrist, arm , shoukder.
If Joe Rogan never says, "For funsies," again, I wouldn't be upset
😂😂😂
😂 I cringed when I heard that.
Steven Segal is a Legit, Nut Ball
Steven Seagal isn’t just a specialist. He is aikido… do your research. Surprised Joe doesn’t know more about him
This guy has NO IDEA what he is saying.
Yep, next he will say ninja created the arts of Karate and Kung Fu 😂
@@punisher7772no no no,, Chuck Norris invented Karate and taught the Japanese his Chuckyness. Kung Fu was founded by Bruce Lee to defend against Chuck's devastations. Hence the birth of the "Nun-Chuck!"
@@billycooper4530 that was funny
@carlosgibb People can often get dumber when they smoke up, especially when old like this.
He's 100% spot on. And because you're one of the fools and invested so much time in this fallacy you're pissed off. He ( like the rest of us) knows exactly what he's talking about.
Aikido was developed to train Japan police to control fights in a gentle take down. Extremely useful in the real world
Steven actually recognized the weaknesses of Aikido and tried to improve on it...the moves we see him do in his movies are variations that already have offense incorporated into them...its different than pure Aikido
We now refer to Steven Seagal as a Mcdonalds Storage Facility, code name, "Bigger Mac" 🍔
Steven Sa-BOOM BOOM!
There was...
Before: Steven Seagal: Out For Justice. Steven Seagal Out for a Kill.
Now: Steven Seagal: All You Can Eat
There’s two aikidos - practical and traditional. Practical works in self defense: absolutely.
The practical comes from the traditional… The techniques are fantastic if you can find an energetic school thats more about intense training than the spiritual stuff
Respectfully I've never ever seen it work. I've watched a guy who took Karate for 20 years get blasted by a guy who had been Thai boxing only a few years. I've seen a Akido guy with 20 years experience get blasted by a Karate guy with about 4 years experience.. It's wise to spend time training with a system that works like Muay Thai and Jiujitsu.. I'd pick any style of Karate over Akido...
@@outlaw_80
This is because Aikido doesn’t actually work in competition. In competition there are rules, and the goal is to subdue the opponent.
Aikido in a real life scenario is meant to simply survive the situation, not to necessarily incapacitate the attacker.
Generally speaking, it will fail in competition. Because even if the Aikido practitioner were always successful, they would never actually incapacitate the opponent, and therefore never meet an end to the fight.
@@JoJoTheOtter That's a strange set of ideas. Aikido regularly wrenches joints out of their sockets etc., often with the full weight of a falling body behind it, to not just destroy joints, but to do it in a process of landing people on the ground on their head and necks. It's a body-destroying and life-taking art. If ... you can pull it off, anyway.
@@user-ps1ft1hy4j
Uh… you and I have very different views on Aikido. The Ai 愛 literally means love. Not sure what to say about that.
Every school of Aikido forgets completely two important principles that the founder of Aikido set out: first, you need a solid grounding in traditional Japanese martial arts before you start - and that means a first Dan in karate and judo/ju-jitsu, and basic competency with weapons (sword and stick fighting). How many Aikido clubs send away new members and tell them to come back when they've got a couple of black belts, do you think?. Second, he said 90 percent of Aikido is atemi-waza, that is, strikes to your opponent's body. The idea is not that someone attacks you and you do some clever throw or put them in a painful joint lock restraint. The idea is thst someone attacks you and you hit them hard - creating a momentary opportunity to do some clever throw or apply a restraint. Now did you see Seagal punching or kicking any of those guys before flipping them about the place? No.
Aikido was not supposed to be a martial art so much as an approach to martial arts, emphasising the intent to do no more harm than absolutely necessary to defeat your opponent (at the time Japan was going the opposite way, developing an extreme militaristic/fascistic culture in which the ideal was the total destruction of the enemy) and the use of techniques not dependent on great strength or power (unbalancing, using opponents' energy, and painful submission holds - which makes sense as you get older).
So don't learn Aikido, everyone who teaches it is not just clueless about real fights and how they work, but clueless about Aikido too. But maybe learn *from* Aikido.
When it was invented it was a actual fighting style, now it is a sport. There is a difference.
Fighting focused styles of aikido is very similar to Karate. So maybe almost as effective as karate but maybe less effective. However, aside from anecdotal evidence, it is yet to be proven against other martial arts. Only real way to prove it is effective is for its practitioners to join and win mixed martial arts competitions. Until then, it's still bullshido.
Steven segal never gets enough hate
He's great to watch in their first few movies and then he got weird.
Aikido is disarms, throws, and bladework. The Samurai didnt train in "Ring Arts" because there skills weren't for show. They were trained to kill. An Aikido fighter vs a pro mma fighter isnt a good match up because one is meant to entertain crowds while the other is meant to kill. Aikidos movements are all illegal in mma.
This guy has no Idea about Aikido at all!!! Aikido is the apex of Japanese Martial arts and it's not because it's so powerfull, but because the idea behind it! I don't know Steven Seagal may be he is the bed person or may be some powerfull people in Holliwood got mad on him, but he is definitely did a lot in aikido and for aikido! And he did for Aikido same that Bruce Lee did for Kung Fu years ago! And this is the fact!
Well said.
@@igorvaiman68 here here
@@billycooper4530 Thank you! I think what a generous Idea hed Morihei Ueshiba use energy of evil against evil! It's like energy recycling! Morihei Ueshiba prohibit fighting compitition in Aikido only show! because it's was a show of his creation! It's was a gift for all martial arts! Aikido is the basic potential of ability to manage the power of energy! (step one)
Steven Seagal did step number two he translated Aikido to the world and made us understand it!
I hope it's gonna expend more! may be someone is gonna do step three and continued! I'd love to see it!!!
@igorvaiman68 I only differ on my ethical background opinion based on this very slight description alternative. Instead of a recycling term, I like this even better, "energy reflected," as in a mirror. This is how Steven described it in an interview after his Martial Arts Hall of Fame induction in 2004 with votes over 20,000 martial artists of all genres globally! The read on a person's energy with ill intent is measured and reflected back to him, ranging from disputes to lethal intent. And the delivery must never be delayed, this leads to bigger problems. Alas, my view is generated on these spiritual principles,
1) Men will reap what they sow.
2) The person that rolls a stone on someone's head will have one rolled onto his.
3) Authorities should be feared only if your deeds are evil, for they do not bear arms for nothing. Good men have to fear nothing.
4) Those who live by the sword will die by the sword.
So my opinion is that these principles in bringing back peace and harmony to disturbed individuals is in itself a very good thing. To instigate war is evil, to stop war is good. That is the goal of real Aikidoku. Men who possess the capacity to stop warring at any level should be respected above all others. My personal spin was given in the end for a dramatic close.
I'm not a fan of Aikido, but this obsession of always bringing it back to putting an aikido guy or a karate guy VS a wrestler or a bjj guy doesn't make any sense. Aikido and karate are civilian martial arts meant to deal with an average Joe, not in a competition scenario.
No, Aikido is not even that. It's closer to Tai Chi and Reiki than it is to Karate.
Exactly!! I got mugged by 2 small guys coming at me stupidly on the sidewalk at 3am. I never had a 250-lb muscular trained D1 wrester charge me. Or a highly trained striker pick me apart.
@@seudonak YOU,VE NEVER BEEN IN A "HELL DOJO" AIKIDO CLASS.
This is like debating what is best, sniper rifle, AK47, or pistol...
Wrong, Aikijutsu is the art of Samurai unarmed combat. It includes choking, joint locks, pressure points, throws, footwork, stances and sweeps. Aikido and Judo were created from it. Aikido's founder Morihei Ueshiba wanted to create an art that would hurt the attacker as little as possible. Judo's founder Kano Jigoro wanted to create a more competitive version for sports application. They were both black belts and had studied Aikijutsu together under the same master Takeda Sokaku. There aren't many dojos left. But Daito Ryu Aikijutsu is bad ass. And would definitely work for self defense application.
He didn't want to hurt people as little as possible if it meant anything like what happens in a real fight. He wanted to harmonize with his opponent, but not so they could be friends.
@@user-ps1ft1hy4j Akiljutsu and Judo are both more effective than Aikido for self defense. It's the weakest art because they are worried about hurting their opponent. Gentle isn't the best way, when it comes to fighting, lol. I'm not saying that it's completely useless. Just not as effective as other martial arts.
@@gregheinl6931 I agree completely. I think many of their ideas and throws are top-notch, but require someone top-notch to apply them, and often in ideal circumstances. I don't want to have to learn for 25 years to simply defend myself because I can also feel I've been spiritually enlightened in the process. And that's my right and that's the right of an instructor not to accept anybody like me.
I particularly disagree with not necessarily or entirely with their training in a non-combative way, but with their exhibiting their combat efficiency in public by having absolute stooge attackers thumpingly plod toward defenders in slow motion with "attacks" that couldn't possibly be more obvious, and I mean that literally. A guy holding his arm out as a spear stumbling in from a good distance, time and time again. That is fine for training, especially at lower levels, but has nothing to do with fighting.
@@user-ps1ft1hy4jyeah but that is when ueshiba went crazy,before that the dude was a legit bad ass with lot of fights and war expirience
i’m happy to hurt you! I guess you have never trained with the IWAMA guys. with all respect a lot of people have never trained and comment. People are unfortunately ignorant in the matter. Please read, watch documentaries. Do you think the police and military would train aikido if it was bullshit.
you will never convince me to take that guy seriously
Aikido has a principle: use your opponents energy, redirect it against him. This may apply on any opponent, armed or not, strong or weak, wrestler or accountant.
Mm hmm
it's the principle of getting your ass kicked
And its incredibly ineffective
Yeah, great. Just hope you have an opponent that doesn't have any fighting ability
You sound like someone who has trained in aikido.
It is a joke if you take it as a joke, like if you only learn the moves like a dance in the dojo, and assume they're gonna work in real life just fine. On the other hand, if you learn well and have experience in fights, and know how to translate it to real fight situations, then it can be as devastating as any other martial arts under these conditions.
Someone once said that the reason people think Aikido is not good it's because it's popular with soft guys but reality is that it's brutal and effective just like other grappling martial arts.
@@francismurage895The reason we think it's not good is because it doesn't have any applicable techniques for a self-defense scenario. Pain is a motivator. Not a deterrent.😊
@@francismurage895 The reason people think Aikido is useless is because it is.
Good fair take by Rogan. It is easy to diss Seagal but he is a legit successful guy.
People underestimate Steven Segal because Aikido is absent from MMA and have the misperception that it's an entirely defensive art, but in a real world fight Aikido is no joke. People don't understand that hard-core Aikido not just defensive, it is really all about ending fights quickly with death strokes to the neck, with or without a sword. The demonstrations and exhibitions you see of Aikido are not hard-core, aggressive and offensive Aikido.
Also, a lot of people think if you could only master one martial art, it should be jiu-jitsu, presumably because "all fights end on the ground." That is great if you're in top shape and condition all of your life.. But as you get older and you get out of shape and get weaker and slower like everyone does in older age, then Aikido is going to be the best martial art to have mastery in because it is much, much less dependent on conditioning and strength and speed than Aikido is. Imagine fragile, weak Joe Biden, he can barely walk: would he better equipped to defend himself at 80 years old if he were a jiu jitsu master or if he were an Aikido master?
That being said, you probably won't find many hard-core Aikido sensai outside of Japan.
Its legit. Joe is just being a hater.
@@BurtonGuster57😂😂😂😂 it’s about as legit as pro wrestling
@@shuipsezairi6527 go ahead and fight him then big boy
Joe Biden is a Yaki Soba Master. From 1951-1974 he studied under General Tso.
@@BurtonGuster57 Steven cheeseburger segal 🤣 I’ll fight him any day of the week
Crazy how fans of goth boxing just dismiss martial arts with hundreds of years of history behind them
Goth boxing? 😂
Boxing paired with a grappling art like jujitsu does well in MMA.
@@DemiGod..Then Bruce Lee was absolutely right.
The problem about people criticizing the art of Aikido is that, Aikido itself didn't even involve in competitions because it wasn't made to compete. It is plainly a discipline, and a form of defense. I am no martial arts expert nor practiced any of such. I did, however, used to spectate sessions on Aikido, Muay Thai, and TKD. And I'd say, aikido was totally different from any other disciplines. Don't mean to disrespect or discriminate, but that's why, most Aikido practitioners keep it more of a low profile because of how their Sensei would discipline them, other martial arts practitioners on the other hand, tend to show off what they can do. Just like these MMA guys who tend to talk trash just to sell fights, and even talk trash about their opponents' families, wives, fathers, etc. That's why MMA these days tend to focus more on entertainment, bad bloods, and all sorts if shit, rather than martial arts itself. These critics on the other hand are forcing things and compare Aikido to other disciplines. Just my one cent 🤷
Aikido also required you to be an experienced blackbelt in another martial art. Modern aikido is completely disconnected from its origin
I would say the disconnection is real but your logic or idea of "modern aikido" is actually applies to a case by case or dojo by dojo basis. The lineage im from is real intense militaristic form. Mostly what we see is the trophy dojos, think of it as a sport and show/competition based, not practical in the streets.
@@Cr0w805aikido doesn’t do competition. They don’t have it, and they have pressure testing. Bring anyone who knows a sliver of bjj or wrestling to your gym and watch all your “black belts” get smashed. Bring a boxer too just to see how stupid yall sound about just grabbing their wrists.
Segal would snap Rogan in 2!! 😂
No he wouldn't. He might sit on him though.
Steven Seagal’s Aikido would’ve been a perfect WWE legend!😂
170 lb wrestler wouldn’t take down seagal down, he’s 6’6 n was a beast in his prime
You kmow why joe rogan is wrong. It was a jiu jitsu style that was used in the regard he is referring to. Real aikido is a 20 century art developed by morihei ushiba in the early 1900s
Yes bro like a real aikido master would fuck joe rogan up
yes i was going to say just that
Wow Seagal somehow has more hair now than when he was in his 30s.
Same with Musk: surgery and medicine.
Peluca
Spray on hair
Steven is legit only in destroying economic resilience of buffet restaurants.
Learns an art that is designed to be effective in warfare and real combat.
Joe Rogan "Yeah but in a fight with rules and regulations you would get DESTROYED!!!"
Aikido was invented 100 years ago. It ain't ancient wisdom. If your opponent agrees to fight by your rules, you're okay.
He is americas Bruce Lee 😂
@@DubD615hduw💯 😂😂😂, It all looks good on film
i remember a time when people would ridicule spinning attacks and said they don't work in real fights. now they're part of the standard MMA repertoire and quite a few big knockouts and important moments (Holloway Gaethje nose break!) have come from them.
to quote a Dota pro: "EVERYTHING can work".
wouldn't be surprised if people found a use for some form of aikido
useful in certain street situations where the guy might have a weapon and you use it for self defence. Pretty much what it's for!
Against a trained fighter with wrestling skill it is going to let you down very badly! As Joe said
How is that relevant whatsoever?
Yeah, they use spinning attacks in "professional Wrestling" too.
How big does a sport need to become before it's transformed into sports entertainment? How much money has to be involved before natural outcomes are too risky for the business to be viable?
I've got a foundation in judo and boxing and done classes in kung fu, Aikido, and Tai Chi. In fact they all help in self defence because they train your body to react in certain helpful ways. But systems don't win fights on the street. But anything you add to your skillset does help.
Spinning back fist works.
I believe Akido applied well with kungfu would be an asset for UFC..
Just like boxing and kicking
Disarming someone with a samurai sword literally meant DIS -ARMING THEM
Finally, someone gets it. On the battlefield against men with swords, wrestling, boxing, etc doesnt work! All martial art styles have their ideal CONTEXT.
This and also lot of the masters are black-belts in various martial arts, so it's just part of their overall tool-set.
I particularly like the school of Shoji Nishio who shows how small adjustments in the techniques can make them so much more effective, with their original principle in mind and also how often atemi (strikes) commonly disregarded are integral part of aikido - not to finish, but to "prep" opponent for more effective aplication of throwing or pinning techniques and interrupting opponent's rythm.
Yeah, and the context of aikido is to be useless
@@ailurusfulgens1849 You sound ignorant.
@@omarimartin9502 I am, which is why I trust the opinions of the people that have trained aikido for over a decade and have come to the conclusion that it's garbage :)
@@ailurusfulgens1849 I've trained in aikido for over a decade also. Its not garbage. The effectiveness of a martial art depends on the practitioner and the context. For example, there are many aikido techniques that are not permitted in MMA fights so in an MMA match the aikidoka doesnt have much weapons. MMA is setup to suit boxers, grapplers and wrestlers. Aikido was developped through swordsmanship and is basically a descendent of jui-jitsu which swordsmen used whenever they were separated from their sword. So aikido works best against sword attacks and attacks where the attacker is fully committed in motion which is precisely what used to happen on the battlefields of samurais and shoguns. In a more modern sense, aikido is effective for bouncers, policemen and bodyguards who have to restrain individuals and quell dangerous situations quickly. So I dont know who you've been listening to but aikido is not useless. Like all martial arts, it has its ideal CONTEXT.
those are demonstrations not actual fight , its designed for teaching. Go to japan and challenge an aikido master to see.
Muay thai and bjj are the only actual and practical martial arts, everything else is bs. A muay thai master would demolish any and every aikido master.
Bullshido master
@@gigabased4I would say muay Thai + judo/wrestling combo would be deadly as self defense. Also sambo.
I would take judo over bjj training every time. Bjj is nothing else but Katame-waza from judo taken and worked on.
@@gigabased4Aikido is BS, but other martial arts exist for a reason.
People have tried. The so-called masters refuse to engage or prove their martial art. They waffle on about how dangerous it is, or how its only meant to be used in self-defense.
If you know anything about martial arts, youd know this is suspicious as fuck. People from every field and discipline cream themselves over the opportunity to show off their mall-dojo karate school, or backyard wrestling MMA knock off. The martial arts community is passionate if nothing else.
Refusing to engage just sorta proves its a fraud.
Steven Seagal trained many styles, not only aikido. Everyone is making jokes about him, but he is a real fighter.
It's like having a black belt in Tai Chi.
A black belt in origami
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I love Chai Tea
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Yeah, I mean. It's good against drunks. It's actually based on a philosophy of non-violence overcomming violence. Morihei Ueshiba taught absolute non-physical, non-violence in the end.
As a street cop I have more documented fights than Steven Segal.
My dad from the age of 8 to 17 has more documented fights then Mike Tyson, that being said, Steven Seagal is a complete jackass.
@@oveidasinclair982where’d he grow up?
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@@oveidasinclair982 Ya sure.
ruclips.net/video/YYAWgbsOX1k/видео.htmlsi=qAfDSvJamfdV5xiH hommie, seagal was police for more time then you...😂😂😂 seagal is the only 6th dan black belt in the history, that is hard as fk...specially in aikido.
Joe Rogan fears Steven Seagal
Now I wanna c them 1 on 1 soooooooooo bad ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Steven seagal fear jean Claude v d.
@@lalrinawmark3144 steven seagal is a legend how dare you lol
Stephen Seagal is the fattest oldest most out of shape “action star” ever and he’s been that way for most of his career.
"most of his career" - that is if you consider the movies he's been making for the past few decades are a "career"
This is how he's flipping grandmas at the buffet on Sunday's
Steven looks young I'm guessing about 30 in that 1st clip maybe a bit younger
And he's already on his balding way.
@@ajlukelepuke 😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you flick your wrist at your opponent and connect, and he does a backflip... it's not sparring or fighting, it's choreography.
The intent of Aikido isn't just to disarm someone or self-defense. It is about how to take down your opponent most effectively with minimal effort without hurting the opponent in a lethal manner involving specific techniques of grips, parry and advanced judo.
what happend to "respect all styles"?there must be something in aikido that works.its a martial arts either way.
And Seagal is a big dude… that helps too lol. ESP in his prime. I could see him being able to f*ck people up no problem. He also knew other martial arts as well, not just Aikido.
thats true.i think he has evolve more with time.he does more like a mix of kung fu and aikido at the same time nowadays.@@speedracerjeff
Akido joint locks or finger manipulation in full or half guard will get you kicked out of a jujitsu school. No one likes getting fingers almost broken when trying to get a choke on. But if I know how to fight and im fighting a wrestler or jitsu guy I'm breaking fingers wrists and arms, eye gouging, etc.. on someone trying to choke me out.. fuck the rules on the street.
Unfortunately, respect is all but lost in most martial arts schools nowadays. It's one of the things we were taught many years ago. These days, martial arts students are not taught respect.
It's self defense and escape, it's not about being Billy Bob Badass who thinks they can fight half the world and screw the other half.
So tired of seeing "tough guys" talking about what martial arts will not work in real life. The reality is that NONE of them work in real life where your attacker will more than likely have a lethal weapon, or multiple people to attack. Get over yourselves, and get real.
Sitting and running the mouth is called the Joe Rogan experience just for the record.😎🔔
Seagal is quick as lightning. And he’s 8th Dan
He can lie before you can blink
@@DemiGod.. LOL
was....
@@DemiGod..😂😂😂😂
Steven SEGAL is a fake
steven seagal is out of his mind
he had some skills in his 30s now he's a fat wannabe
Correction Joe… Akido was “invented” in the 1920s by Morihei Ueshiba! It had nothing to do with helping samurai defend themselves… given that they were long gone by the 20s. Aikido does though incorporate swordsmanship defense techniques into the practice.
Joe just took the origin of Judo and replaced it with Aikido which was developed in the 1920s lol.
No.... He's right.
@@bennyknot no he isn't just Google origin or both for God's sake instead of doubling down on being wrong.
Judo was synthesized from another style of ju-jutsu about 30 years earlier than Aikido by Cano , to specifically be a sport, soo people wouldn’t get killed while practicing
@@jaymars3370no you're wrong
@@Duck_Dodgersnope; you are. He’s actually very right. They used an old form of jiu jitsu. People later made bjj or Brazilian jiu jitsu later on based on this.
It’s extremely effective against an armed person,up close. Similar results with a person unarmed. Mixing it with other forms is key for most engagements.
That would be funny if Steven Seagal challenges Joe Rogan 😂 he's just fed up with all this shit talking. That would be utterly amazing 😂
If you know Aikido, you can disable 2-3 bullies in a street fight and run away safely...
lol
If you know aikido, you can be disabled by 1 bully in a street fight and get away in an ambulance
You mean 2 or 3 yrs old bullies?
you can disarm you nhutsack if you know aikidio
Aikido is a Japanese martial art created by Morihei Ueshiba in the late 1920s. Why are we talking about samurais?! 🤔
Steven Seagal knows Karate, Kungfu, Aikido, Jiu-Jitsu, Judo, Taekwondo, and lots of other dangerous words.
Steven seagal would beat any of those guys if he is under siege and he would be hard to kill
Steven Seagal: "If you cooperate, I can get this done..."
Said no one ever on a battlefield, in the middle of a war... 😂
Enemy: *squares up with fists*
SS: "WAIT WAIT WAIT grab a sword"
The founder was an Imperial Army Swordsmanship Instructor. Who had a change of heart and wanted to be more peaceful. Most of the techniques are actually derived from sword retention techniques. Meaning someone grabbed a Samurai. If nobody grabs you Aikido does nothing, there is no conflict.
Young prime Steven Seagull is unstoppable he can drag them all.
When you’ve put all your points in the wrong skill but the change is permanent
I practiced Aikido years ago. It was a nicely run dojo here in NY and I did enjoy the training. . What I took from it was that while there wasn't really any offense , it did get you very good at dodging and avoiding attacks Id say if you paired it with training an offensive style , it would benefit you the most. On its own , its very situational.
My uncle is a well known stunt man/stunt double. He worked with Seagal on Under Siege,Under Siege 2,Kill Switch, Mercenary for justice,and Marked for death. He told me and my dad many stories about how they would have to shoot so many scenes to cover up how bad Seagal is with fighting. There was an accident where my uncle had accidentally hit him in the face with his elbow. My uncle said he walked off the set for almost 2 weeks before the producers had to literally threaten litigation if he didn’t return. My uncle also said he demanded his clothes be made to fit a certain way and cameras and lighting be a certain way to hide his obesity. Jackie Chan was also a stunt double before he became a superstar. My uncle said he refused to work with Seagal because he was an a-hole and would try and hurt people to make himself look legit.
Fact: Steven Seagal broke James Bond's wrist to teach him a lesson about respect.
Fact: in one of his most recent films, he had 3 sex scenes in bed with his leather jacket and pants on.
Steven Seagal is a legit buffet champion!
Seagal is the baddest man on the planet in conjunction with being the true definition of a renaissance man, ayyyyyyeeeee 👍👍
People forget that he single handedly stopped a train highjaking with nothing but a kitchen knife
When Kipp told Napolean to try and hit him to test his reflexes 😂
Look his task was to make it look fierce in action films, and he succeeded. I find it puzzling that some critics attempt to draw parallels between action movie stars and real, trained martial artists when they could never pull it off. I defy any critic to perform those same movements on film.
The thing you need to know about Steven Seagal. He doesn't just take down his opponent. He kills them too. Look at the way he fought in the movie out for justice.You wouldn't want to mess with that guy.
Nowadays Seagal should consider being a Sumo.
I cant see seagal without tom segura in the back of my head 😂
He was so good he didn’t even touch some of those guys