When she missed that batarang and had that massively overacted 'Oops! That's embarrassing' look, I thought it was just a bad attempt at humor, but at the very least they were finally implying her lack of experience with all this... ...I had no idea that the next scene would literally be her complaining to Luke that _something_ _must_ _be_ _wrong_ _with_ _the_ _equipment_ because there's no way it could be _her_ fault she missed it. But maybe they're going for a 'she's letting the problems her outside life affect her performance as Batwoman' thing. It's not hard to rip off Spider-Man 2. EDIT: OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE, IT WAS 'CALIBRATED FOR BRUCE'?! It couldn't even rip off a good movie's plot point because it would render the protagonist imperfect. Fuck this show.
Kinda like MauLer's Star Wars review with the rotting watermelon in the background as the video progresses. This just keeps on progressing until the grand finale or full on rot of a franchise
It would be like saying 'this baseball is calibrated for a Man to throw it!" Just more of that current year 'everything in society was designed to benefit men" third wave feminonsense.
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon current year +4 C'mon Beuwen, ya gotta get it right :D Jokes aside, I really know people who unironically think of past generations as a cult of men, assembling in a dark cave with candles and all, and arbitrarily making everything with the sole purpose of putting women down...
Critics also thought “ The last Jedi “ was a good movie. Also critics thought “Black Panther“ was one of the greatest movies of all time although it was horribly written. Critics since 2016 are a bunch of retarded lunatics that bend to social justice over character and story depth/development. It's fucking insane
...okay, even if we were still forced to compress it into a single episode, here's the basic construction of the 'Hero's relationship falls apart because of time conflicts related to their double-life' cliche. TIME FOR SOME STORYTELLING 101, KIDS. Setup: -Hero and Love Interest plan a date -Love interest is concerned because hero has previously been flaky because of hero commitments, but hero promises to make this particular date Execution: -As the hour of said date approaches, a crime happens. -Hero sees that it's close to the time of the date, but goes to stop the crime anyway. -Love interest arrives at location of date, only to be alone. -Show hero fighting crime, with maybe one cut to the love interest, looking at a clock as they sit alone at a table set for two or whatever. -Hero either fails to arrive at the date all, arrives too late for their date to go through (missed their reservation or somesuch), or arrives after love interest has already left Ending -Love interest thinks hero is not serious about their relationship -Hero can't/won't reveal their double-life -The relationship is, at least for now, ended -Ultimately, neither party can be really faulted for the breakup It's not too difficult to do. But apparently, that's a higher bar than we can expect Batwoman to reach. Batwoman setup: -Hero and love interest plan a date -Love interest is concerned because hero doesn't tell her her whereabouts at all times, or let her read her text messages. Hero, meanwhile, is too fucking dumb to have come up with even a basic, consistent excuse for why she might not be available on any given day/night (like family commitments, or maybe A FUCKING JOB). Batwoman execution: -The date and the crime happen at the exact same fucking location. That is a contrivance, at best. -The only tension happens because, coincidentally, the hero's ex girlfriend is there, and she, hero, and love interest have the emotional maturity of eighth graders. Oh noooo, someone you previously had a relationship with is now meeting your current love interest! This is such an unprecedented and insurmountable crisis that it warrants NINE FUCKING SECONDS of glancing awkwardly between one another. I counted. -Crime happens, and the crime is stupid. Fuck this show. Batwoman conclusion: -Love interest breaks off the relationship despite nothing having changed in her dynamic with hero from before this incident. -Hero goes along with it, because something something the city deserves it, and isn't she just as self-sacrificing and heroic as her cousin? Bruce Wayne had to balance his life as Bruce Wayne, billionaire socialite, playboy, philanthropist, and CEO, with his life as Batman, and there were still periodic steady relationships. Kate, on the other hand, can't handle being Batwoman and simultaneously being in a relationship longer than about a week, and she's sufficiently unemployed that she can just up and DECIDE to "go into real estate," for which I imagine she'll be embezzling money from her legitimately successful family members just like she became Batwoman by robbing her cousin. How does a show like this happen? 11/3 EDIT: Also, before you even _attempt_ an arc like this, it's important to actually establish why the relationship between the hero and the love interest has potential. Each of them should be shown as a positive influence in the other's life, and the hero's double-life has to be shown impacting that mutual happiness in ways that couldn't be reasonably resolved (which includes the use of white lies / half-truths). You have to show a level of trust that gets understandably eroded over time until eventually it comes down to the hero having no recourse but to A) confirm the love interest's fears with an unambiguous lie or refusal to answer or B) finally reveal their heroic alter-ego. Batwoman execution of this: Kate and Reagan (I had been calling her BartenderLesbian, but thanks to the AV Club article I have a name to assign to her utterly-forgettable personality) meet in the last episode, flirt, and then Kate asks her out at the very end of the episode. This episode, we can't even get through ONE SCENE of them together before A) it's clear that Kate's ineptitude at maintaining a secret identity (rather than the actual difficulties of a secret identity) that are causing problems and B) Reagan is a jealous shrew unwilling to extend even the slightest degree of trust, or at least benefit of the doubt, to her new girlfriend, and all but directly accuses her of infidelity for being even remotely non-transparent about her daily activities. I didn't go through this the first time around because, at the time of writing, I had unconsciously filed it under 'so obvious that it isn't worth saying,.' Apparently, I forgot that I was dealing with 'Batwoman.' EDIT 2: Huh. Apparently, when you edit a post that got left a
Simple, the writers of other bad shows that somehow became a success decided they could make this as well (remember: these same guys brought you Arrow, The Flash, and Supergirl. Admittedly, those shows were better than this show, but they were still bad).
@@thedarklordx I was referring to how they are now, not how they started. I tried The Flash. Season 1 was okay (though it did have plenty of issues), but I gave up late into season 2. Sadly, my favourite of the recent DC TV shows, Gotham, also followed that trend of starting alright and ending up bad. The show's writing was a constant hit or miss, but at least when it was more episodic they could drop some of the misses.
Also, didn't this Love Interest complain about Thomas Elliott being a "carwash of misogyny" because he keeps flirting with women and expects them to sleep with him. The same woman who then sleeps with the first woman to flirt with her for five minutes....
Well, its February 2021, and ratings have dipped below 625,000, and audience scores remain in the toilet, but there seems to be absolutely no talk of cancellation from the CW. They are gonna go down with this ship because of their political agendas. At least we have EFAP, Az, JLongbone, Thorias, the Drinker, and the majority of the Fandom Menace to cover this garbage while we laugh and mock this show and its network into oblivion.
Nope - that's shockingly framed as something 'the good guys' do now. There was a recent captain marvel arc where she was literally running an illegal prison and it was portrayed as a good thing. In other words, the left wants to gulag you.
@Goat Actually they are considered anti-heroes. They are overtly protrayed as morally dubious characters with deep psychological trauma that pushes them over the line of the law out of thirst for revenge. The Punisher is generally the antagonist in the marvel crossover material he features in. In his own material he kills in cold blood and tortures th bad guys.
@Goat uhhh yes, eat shit. "An antihero is a main character in a story who lacks conventional heroic qualities and attributes such as idealism, courage and *morality.* Although antiheroes may sometimes perform actions that are morally correct, it is *not always for the right reasons,* often acting primarily out of *self-interest or in ways that defy conventional ethical codes.* "
Wait, what? Martha Wayne's pearl necklace as a symbol of female empowerment? Even if I buy that Martha Wayne was some huge feminist icon even decades after her death, why the hell would they champion the very necklace that SHE WAS MURDERED FOR as representative of her? What if Bruce Wayne walked in through the doors, right then and there, and saw you assholes using his dead mother's necklace as a prop to talk up your charity? And why are the goddamn pearls famous now? What about any of Thomas Wayne's stuff? I bet he had a wallet and a watch that got stolen. Are those in museums, too? It's Han Solo's golden dice all over again, except at least people didn't get killed over those unimportant trinkets. Also, how would it even get here? They claim that Bruce spent years looking for it and finally bought it for one million dollars at 'an auction'. What? It was stolen by a mugger. Why wouldn't it just get fenced, or end up in a pawn shop? Second, and perhaps more importantly, why the fuck would Bruce Wayne 'donate' it to a museum of antiquities? Why isn't that shit in some kind of Bat-vault under Wayne manor?
'Even if I buy that Martha Wayne was some huge feminist icon even decades after her death' To be fair, in most continuities Martha and Thomas are both symbols of benevolence, progress and generosity. Don't know why her pearls in particular are something important to her, especially since the iconography of the Wayne's death is those same pearls getting ripped apart.
@@nobody2996 mostly because they wanted it to be fanservice. in univarse it make no sense why they are important its only relvent as a refrence to fans and its such a lazy way of doing it.
I feel like the most hilarious part about Batwoman is that if the show wasn’t run by propagandist hacks, but everything else about the character was the same she would be written as a villain. She could actually be a really interesting twisted mirror image version of Batman where everything good about Batman and his sacrifices are replaced by a petty person who either thinks they deserve the title or is just jealous of the fame Batman has even though he never wanted said fame. Her back story consist of people where mean to her once and she never got over it like a spoiled child. She dawns the persona of the Bat for arguably selfish reasons. She demands recognition for her actions. She goes out of her way to alter the suit away from stealth and instead to simply advertise her existence. She blames others for her failings. She has undeserved self confidence that borders on overconfidence. She has no respect for the person who preceded her and would rather tear down that persons image to boost her own. She simply stands on the backs of others and treats their accomplishments as her own. The best part is other writers have written this character such as syndrome from the incredibles and the episode of “The Batman” where Joker attempts to steal Batman’s identity
A majority of the more progressive comic book heroes fall into this category. They're all entitled jerks who freak out at the smallest provocation (and assume any criticism is based on in-born traits rather than their actions), all while having the trappings of the characters they are taking the mantle of but none of the underlying principles or philosophies. A great example of this is Iron Heart, the black teenage female iron-man reboot. Riri Williams would make a great villain, but the writers insist that she's a hero, because reasons.
@@PublicLeeSpeaking oh my gosh, yes! Riri is just a supervillain! No matter how many times I point that out to people, they call me a racist, and I'm black! Don't even get me started on Kamala Khan, Ms Marvel. Her actions got her friend crippled for life, but he is still played for laughs as the ignorant white boy who will never understand her Islamic culture, despite him constantly trying his best to show interest in her and her family. On top of that, her idol is Captain Marvel, a super powered, self-righteous maniac who killed Iron Man because she couldn't stand the idea that she could be wrong, and then after Civil War 2, everyone is still like "OMG, Carol is the bestest ever!" No wonder I find myself either rooting for the villains now or just not wanting to engage in superhero hobbies anymore.
Don't forget ms marvel and her junior gestapo in civil war 2. Where they arrested people who were "predicted" to commit crimes and locked them up in a private prison without trial.
better question is why they made her a discount cat woman then again they made hush a dumb trump analouge so which other villian are they gonna change entirly
@@wilmagregg3131 Magpie has been around for some time it looks like they are trying to use the Beware the Batman version of Magpie but fucked it up really bad.
Batwoman writers: Okay, so people like everything about Batman so what if everything that is stolen from Batman is turned female and we tell everyone that women exist. Producer: Well, I suppose that could work, but we would need a good plot to really make it work. Batwoman writers: Couldn’t hear you. Was putting a wig on the bat suit and creating the love child of the Mad Hatter, Joker, and Two-face. Producer: Is that the plot? Batwoman writers: *Strips Catwoman, puts white wig on her* We need to give the entire cast lobotomies. Producer: The plot? Batwoman writers: Why do you keep saying that word? Producer: *slowly dawns on them that their wife was right to leave them*
@@blackchibisan8116 "and still better written with more subtlety and depth than this show." no. Sadly. And it's sad you have a high enough opinion of your writing to say such things of yourself.
@@virtualmartini More that I've such a low opinion of Batwoman that I know for sure I have taken bowel movements with more lore, buildup, and plot twists than this. Not a joke and there are stories only life can write. You are somewhat puzzling. Came to my comment written in passing, scrolled down far enough to read my followup, and decided it was worth your time but only to try and deflate my 'ego'. This is the internet. If you came to the youtube comments section expecting a burn worthy of the stages of old, you have a much higher standard than the forum allows for. Again, that opening comment wasn't a lie, but I don't think it is a burn on Batwoman as much as an expression of disappointment. They are giving me water with unflavored tofu floating in it and telling me it is high class clam chowder. It is none of that. It can hardly be called a soup.
No. Mauler laughs at people ALL THE TIME. Look up his video on Patrick and Last Jedi - he literally just laughs at him. You can claim many things about Mauler but he did not "turn" - laughing is his argument has been his MO for sometime. FAP: MauLer, Wolf & Appabend laughing at Patrick Willems' hilariously bad TLJ video ruclips.net/video/dU9Y1kq4yhs/видео.html PS this was put up by A FAN. How sad Maulie is now reduced to blue milk
The writers must've thought that water is like the water from Minecraft: As soon as you touch any body of water, your fall is broken; no velocity, no injury. WATER DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!
I don't think these writers know that landing in a pool of water that isn't displaced is almost the equivalent of hitting cement sidewalk. Batwomen fried to straight up murder her.
I'm half-convinced that the writers for this episode have literally never seen any of the Batman films, or even watched an episode of a show that features Batman, because even if I can't say for sure if I've never seen a batarang return to its thrower, I sure as hell never saw one do it after HITTING THEIR TARGET. It's not Captain America's shield, for fuck's sake, and that had to be made out of magic space-metal and thrown by a superhuman to return after being used as projectile weapon.
Batman DOES have special batarangs that can change their directory midair but they have to be programmed to do so before being thrown. He also has larger batarangs that do return but are rarely used in any media of batman. But generally they act as shurikens or throwing knives. But let's be honest, at this point do you REALLY think this show cares about continuity?
@@borisindigo5593 It's less about continuity and more just basic logic. If you have a piece of shaped but ultimately mundane metal that's meant to be thrown and shaped to return itself to you, but it hits something...who would assume it would still return to you?
There are remote controlled batarangs in the Arkham game series, but I don't think a batarang that actually hits something ever comes back due to the whole impacting with something.
That feeling when Batwoman throws a batawang at a child and you're happy because now the public will bare direct witness to how evil she is, but they fawn over her instead.
I've really been struggling on the terminology for my frustration since seeing all this. "Propagandist" had also fit super well. The world keeps getting more complicated. My genuine thanks to you.
LOL Joker: Created by Meritocracy Hires. Todd made money from Hangover - thats how he did Joker. He may be talented but Hollywood is about money not talent only rarely does "merit" matter so what is your point?
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 Lmaoo, isn’t the fact that he made money on another project of his prove the OP’s point? Isn’t the fact that he made money and was successful proof of his own merit? Or does it not count cause you say so haha. So, what is your point?
@@SteveSmith-ty8ko isn’t the fact that he made money on another project of his prove the OP’s point? JJ made TFA which is one of the most profitable films of all time are you saying JJ is a great director?
That AV Club segment gave me cancer. "Alice is a PERFECT VILLAIN" "Did you all die at Mary's Alice impression?" "... it's a bummer their relationship (Batwoman and lesbian-woman) didn't work out right now." Blegh...
Fringy's rage at the beginning is how I feel with Batwoman. Batman is my favorite superhero and he's been crime fighting for years and probably has never taken a break but when he does Kate gets pissed let's a criminal go and steals his stuff then claims to be better like excuse me! Bruce would never let someone like the Joker, Scarecrow, or who ever to roam the streets or compromise with them so that they don't kill anyone. It bothers me that if you criticize this show you are labeled misogynist but this show is just bad and they could do so much with it
Not to mention, Batman's actually been in that same position of "having a loved one turn evil" and made the decision to take them down rather than letting them go free...MULTIPLE TIMES! This is the same dude who has contingency plans to take down the other members of the Justice League in case any of them ever went rogue! This Bat-Bitch is not, nor will she ever be, better than Batman!
You guys missed my favorite part of this episode. Kate's ex-"heard about the new Bat?" Kate-"uh it's batwoman and she's bestest thing to happen to gotham ever." LATER Kate-"I think my Ex is on to me that i'm batwoman, god how does bruce keep this a secret?"
You guys skipped over one of my favorite additions to the batcave. Butler had a concealed taser hidden under the bat desk in the batcave. The same taser he had in the pilot. That's why it took him so long to catch her the first time she broke in. He literally had to go to the batcave to get his taser to catch her first.
@@outstandingdogmarron9890 He's a lot more competent in the comics. He's Bat-Wing in the comics. He's also the son of Lucius Fox (aka Bruce Wayne's tech guy).
Kate (batwoman) trips over nothing, falls face first onto the pavement resulting in a broken nose. Kate : Im pretty sure gotham sidewalks are calibrated for batman.
I just searched for these reactions on RUclips and found there are ACTUALLY fangirls of this show who seem to unironically like it... As if I wasn't suicidal enough already!!!
Don't lose hope, mylord! Your kingdom needs you more than ever! Also, your comments are usually a highlight of EFAP content, so hang in there : the Toxic Brood shall endure
So what do you do for a living? "Security for Wayne Enterprises." Oh, that explains why you operate out of Wayne Tower, go to ritzy events, and get phone calls at all hours. "Yeah Bruce Wayne is my cousin. It isn't something I try to keep secret."
@@OrkOfOhio LOL I didn't mean "Bats" the animals. Its a nickname if you knew DC comics or the films - you'd know that But thanks in your failing attempt to appear smart. Had a good chuckle www.quora.com/What-are-the-nicknames-that-the-Joker-has-called-Batman#:~:text=In%20order%20of%20prevalence%20in%20published%20comics%3A&text=Batsy-,Bats,The%20Dark%20Knight
You notice how the show just skipped over the guard who died last week because of Kate's refusal to stop Alice. You would think that a normal person would have some kind of reaction to finding out their actions resulted in a death.
Who even says "nearly killed" rather than "critically injured" anyways. In actual news they always seperate dead, life-threatening injured and injured but guaranteed to live :/
*you're But yeah; this and Korra are two examples of an old cliché I absolutely loathe: "I have a significant other! But we (the protagonist and I) have something special!" It's so stupid and contrived.
Matthew St. Cyr well I’d like to see this connection beyond flashbacks saying “we shagged at boot camp” and I think something about her being there for Kate after her mom and sister died? During a scene of her yelling at her dad I think. I don’t really know, they haven’t done anything with that... dose that mean they have known each other since they were kids? I feel like showing them like that, her comforting and being there for Kate after the accident when they were both still young would have done far more to establish this “connection” then... random making out at boot camp... followed by... random getting kicked out and girlfriend choosing her own life and career over... what seems like just a fling.
@@BigBroTejano I agree. That's part of what I meant by contrived. It hasn't been developed at all, and even if it were, I personally would still find it almost unbearable to watch simply because it's such a tired old cliché that makes very little sense.
If it was maybe a case of forced or unhappy marriage it would be an interesting emotional development. It could have been "I wish I could still be with you and be happy, than be stuck attatched at the hip to this monster." Instead, we get "Ugh, why aren't you attracted to me anymore even though I'm happily married and you have every right to move on and live a life of your own?!"
It literally looks like a 12yr old boy walking out the lift who had just stolen his dad's motorbike. The 2 sizes too big leather jacket and an over sized helmet lol
'They were such a good match for each other. It's a shame the relationship between these two didnt work out." ... somebody describe either character. Who are they? What are their personalities or qualities outside of being Lesbotisms? The fans of this show will clap at the most shallow, key jangling nonsense to the point of 'yay, a pair of scissors being mashed together, I'll ship that!"... ^.-.^
Haven't you heard. Lesbian + lesbian is perfect match. Who needs personalities (actually for these 2 that probably is their entire personality, just like certain people who would think this is great).
2 Pairs of scissors is, in my honest opinion, way more interesting than these two doing it. Not only can 2 pairs of scissors allow you to be more creative and productive than everyone who worked on this show put together, have you ever felt what its like to have a brand new, expensive pair of scissors in your hands? They feel so nice!
@@shadowapocalypse9012 Riddler was hinted at by that horrid version of Hush. But as they did just use Magpie over Catwoman, Puzzler or Calculator wouldn't surprise me. But Calculator is far less likely, he might make us think of Stephanie or Barbara and we can't have people thinking of a good female Bat can we.
@@rolkflameraven1483 hell they dont even acknoledge that any of the bat family exist wheres any of the robins nightwing batgirl hell wheres COMMISINER GORDON even if he retired hed still be a majour figure
The only time Batman has taken a prisoner (to my knowledge) is in Batman vs Dracula, when the Joker was turned into a vampire, who he fed (with his own blood) and used to find the cure for vampirism. He also put Joker back in Arkham after he cured him. A little more justified than Batwoman, don’t you think? Also, Batwoman is red underlined when I type it. Batman is not. Autocorrect is correct for the first time.
35:20 YES! Batwoman throws a batarang and saves the girl's life, BUT, since she is bad with those (as we could see previously), she badly wounds the girl. Maims her for life. And, ultimately, she saved the girl, but if she practiced more, instead of throwing a tantrum before, she'd be able to save that girl without cutting her fingers off. But, again, that would imply that she isn't literally perfect.
I think that would be a bit too dark, it would be better if they were just useless in her hands, she often missed and their wounds were glancing and the batarangs are easily deflected. Then she thinks they're useless and stops using them, eventually she needs them and learns their use then resolves to practice with them. By the end of the series she throws knives like Arrow does.
Actually it makes sense. Throwing knives meant for a woman of a completely different height, mass/weight, build, body type, muscle distribution, bone structure and center of gravity would probably be a lot different. Maybe they're too heavy for her.
Producer: "...and for the action scenes, we need something that goes like: 'Dun-Duh, duhduhduh, DUN-DUH! Can you do that?" Composer: "Sure! What's the budget on that?" Producer: "An Amazon gift-card and this half-eaten sandwich."
Bruce left Gotham because he almost killed his niece after having a bad dream. Now he lives in the most unfindable place in the world, waiting for death in hope of ending the practice of people dressing up in rubbersuits with him.
Honestly, after looking through issue 1, the biggest bastardization of this show and character is the dark, de-saturated colors in this show. The art, and the colorist especially, is what carries that comic, not the writing. This show just borrows sets from Arrow and even when this show is at its relative best, it's made for efficiency reasons. Why use cheap CGI explosions? Because blowing up real fireworks requires more prep time. Why not fix those CIG explosions? There's no budget for it. Why do impact physics not apply? Because it takes too long to get these actors react to explosions or attacks they can't see.
So, if she missed with the first batarang throw of the episode, claiming that they were somehow wrong, that means that had to have been her very first throw ever with a deadly, razor sharp boomerang. So, on her second throw ever, her only other experience being an inaccurate mess she throws that same deadly fucking weapon at a small girl, which somehow hits the small pearl with the very tip of its edge and then carries it off into the sky. Nevermind the fact that physically having something hanging on one end of a boomerang would completely fuck up its trajectory. Nevermind the fact that even if she did land that throw exactly like its shown, that the batarang would just stick in and stop dead because the girl is fucking holding the pearl. But realistically, the best case scenario is that she would have sliced that girls fucking fingers clean off, she should have. Even if it was the most accurate throw possible, her fingers would be gone. How she managed to throw it that accurately on her FIRST EVER throw with it 'Calibrated' properly, is insane. but she is a woman and women can do no wrong, even the murdering psychopaths. What would have happened realistically is that either she would have completely missed or that razor sharp weapon would have ended up inbedded somewhere in that girls body, probably her head. Taking her fingers off is realistcally the best case scenario. Jesus christ this is a fucking mess. Oh, and to answer the question, Yes I found this channel through the batwoman reviews. It's the best way to view these episodes because its not even worth it to pirate them
@@hassathunter2464 Well either she stabbed him with it, or the writers completely forgot as they wouldn't have had this little plot thread in this episode.
Her landing in the pool wouldn't have just killed her, it would have mangled her body. Still water has a 'skin' on the surface which is slightly elastic. This means when something hits water at a high enough height, the waters 'skin' will bend and snap back like a trampoline, creating even more force. A great episode of Brainiac did a test on this, and showed at a height 5 stories (I think) it's safer to land on concrete, which would break both your legs, than water, which would crush your body. As a side note, running water does not have this 'skin' as the movement breaks it
Also, it feels like no one in the creative team of this shitshow have any idea how Newtonian physics work. Like, at all. Inertia, gravity, leverage, counter-Force, velocity, acceleration - wat is dat? Me a drop out, me never lernt de lessuns!
So the reason Kate Kane and Love Interest relationship has progressed so rapidly since last episode is because this episode takes place a couple months after last episode. This is because of a crossover between the CW DC shows. Doesn't excuse the tism and awful writing
@@outstandingdogmarron9890 If I'm remembering it correctly in the crossover they dont even mention anything about Kate Kane's personal life besides that she is Batwhamen. It's just an excuse the writer's used to not have to work hard.
If this timeline is true then that means Kate had Alice's boyfriend in captivity in terrible conditions for months. Which is insane and goes to show how mental Kate is.
I feel like there's also some disconnect here with Bruce's childhood friend from ya'll not being comic readers. Not that anything is wrong with what's said about him in these videos, but how he's far worse than what you might imagine. He's not just some "billionaire man," he's Tommy Elliot, AKA Hush. A relatively recent but pretty big deal to the Batman mythos. Here though? Essentially just "billionaire man". That's a pretty big issue as well.
I've had to actually pause sometimes to just comprehend the shite this show has become. Thank god you guys are making this funny. Glad I skipped on it, looks like a way to reduce brain cells
Dc has quite a few thieves with weird specialized targets. Magpie being known for stealing gems named after birds. There's also some weird guy that has a split personality that thinks he's the reincarnation of a Pharaoh, and only steals Egyptian related Items.
@@TravisBroski Lets be honest, that's the level of villains this show could hope to handle (not that they do). Imagine how poorly they would portray more serious villains they can't even portray Alice well. This show feels like watchin Adam West's batman dressed with a serious tone and stripped of the comedy.
People been telling me that the Millionaire that stole the gun was Hush in the comic. If it true then it sad to see them destroy this once great character.
Im more suprise that they waste him so soon and for a role that could have been given to a name goon. He more of a season long villain then Alice. Like they didn't even put any effort at all on him, not even 1 percent effort.
Odd thing to gripe about but... What's the point in shipping two characters from a TV show that are already actually in a relationship in said TV show? That's not shipping, that's being able to comprehend what's happening in the show! FFS!
Hey think about it That means we can do fatalities on her Id like to see the look on her face when sub zero removes her head and then completely obliterates it... I think i have problems
@Andrew Whiting I dont think it was really that bad. They definitely developed issues but they only really extend to one stupid arcade ladder ending and the character designs which i dont think have changed enough to be worth getting upset over.
@Andrew Whiting I dont know man i just dont see it I will concede though that from what i understand the power scaling is boned often in favour of the females (noob saibot vs jaqui briggs or cassie cage vs anyone amongst others) and that whoever said they were doing some huge gender equality thing by changing the designs was being a dick I think i might be a bit biased because i quite like most of the new designs and i really hate some of the old ones (mk9 skarlet in particular)
Is it me, or is Ruby conflating emoting with adding vocal fry to line delivery? Because it sounds like that with any line that's supposed to be delivered in an emotional fashion.
I'm surprised that when Bortwoman pulled Cowpie off the building, she didn't land on the little girl and kill them both. Like "whoops, still in training!"
The grappling hook wasn't specifically calibrated for a vagina having person. The weight of a penis (And the increase muscle ma- oh wait that's sexist facts) utterly throws it off.
Normal people, when they want to get good at something, they practice it. Over and over and over. Piano, throwing knives, anything. Alf should have just said GIT GUD and stood his ground.
Tbh blondie has all the hall marks of an EXTREMELY CRAZY EX: She's insecure, controlling, demands all of her time and secrets for nothing in return despite being with Kate for less than 24 hours!!
Fun fact: Alice's actress played a completely butchered and character-assassinated Elizabeth I on Reign, one of the worst shows I have ever seen. And she's even worse there.
Oh my god, you're right it is the same actress! Thanks for pointing that out, I would have never realized. Reign is hilarious, especially the complete and utter disregard for historical accuracy.
- Ability to mod stuff that belongs to other people - Shitty looking explosions - Character take no fall damage as long as they land in water I think Batwoman might just be a game made in the Source Engine.
Guilty! I've recently started watching y'all for the Batwoma'am reviews. I just couldn't bare giving the show one more viewer, so it's a great compronise...even more so, since y'all are _actually_ entertaining.
15:51
An important moment in EFAP history, at least one good thing came out of this show.
?
*Slams* What ya bring me?
Lmao I like to think MauLer was bored one day and he just wanted to find the legendary moment once more
Reminiscing on the good times are we?
She really said "Bat-Splaining"
Lord help us
>God has left the server
That batarang was sexist though...
@@cipherenigma Just wait till the next episode where they rename it the Bat-HER-rang.
You think this show can't get any worse and then they pull that line out of their bat-ass and prove me wrong.
@@jameshughes7946 christ, don't give them ideas
When she missed that batarang and had that massively overacted 'Oops! That's embarrassing' look, I thought it was just a bad attempt at humor, but at the very least they were finally implying her lack of experience with all this...
...I had no idea that the next scene would literally be her complaining to Luke that _something_ _must_ _be_ _wrong_ _with_ _the_ _equipment_ because there's no way it could be _her_ fault she missed it. But maybe they're going for a 'she's letting the problems her outside life affect her performance as Batwoman' thing. It's not hard to rip off Spider-Man 2.
EDIT: OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE, IT WAS 'CALIBRATED FOR BRUCE'?! It couldn't even rip off a good movie's plot point because it would render the protagonist imperfect. Fuck this show.
I immediately thought the problem was going to be calibration or some shit because she stole the suit, painted it and called it a day
"The batarangs are perfectly balanced."
"They will be, when they're calibrated for a wammun."
True Mary Sue
How do you calibrate a boomerang anyway?
@@ApatheticCrow batsplaining
I love how these get progressively longer. At this rate we’ll be up to standard EFAP run time of 9 hours by the last episodes lol
The longman’s power grows with each new release.
That's when normal efap will be 24 hours normally
Kinda like MauLer's Star Wars review with the rotting watermelon in the background as the video progresses. This just keeps on progressing until the grand finale or full on rot of a franchise
With each episode they grow stronger!
A 9 hour mini seems ok.
Anyone else not bother watching the show, but watch their reaction to it?
Might as well just skip to the good part right?
They provide enough context. It’s better than the show I guess
Yes.
People are watching the show?
Totally!
Remember, when Kate makes a mistake, it's Batman's fault.
Just like with neo-feminists in real life!
This show is accurate on that point I'll give it that! :D
Who’s Kate?
Art often reflects the artist's soul. But in this case, they don't have a soul.
Mr Super-Kami Popo Batwoman
@@mrsuper-kamipopo9708 Kate Kane. Batwoman
Thumbnail: *Shows ugly woman with blue hair*
Me: Aaand here...weeee GO!
That's Danny Devito to you sir
@@Sorel2020 I thought he was referencing that clip of the Joker from the Dark Knight. XD
I read this on hydraulic press channel's voice aha
@Dusky the Demon They don’t think it be like it is, but it do.
Wayne Dunlap True words
I'm just here for the "I'm a wahman!" jokes and screen spins.
Thanks gents.
It's the little things we appreciate.
"batsplaining"
*Audible groan*
Also, the idea that the batarang is 'broken' because it was designed for Batman's use is absolutely idiotic.
Its because batman is actually powerful.
It would be like saying 'this baseball is calibrated for a Man to throw it!"
Just more of that current year 'everything in society was designed to benefit men" third wave feminonsense.
Beuwen The Dragon Beuwen! I’ve missed you. :D
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon current year +4
C'mon Beuwen, ya gotta get it right :D
Jokes aside, I really know people who unironically think of past generations as a cult of men, assembling in a dark cave with candles and all, and arbitrarily making everything with the sole purpose of putting women down...
How does one calibrate a peace of metal shaped like a bat?
Just a casual reminder that critics think that is shit is better than Joker
Critics also thought “ The last Jedi “ was a good movie. Also critics thought “Black Panther“ was one of the greatest movies of all time although it was horribly written. Critics since 2016 are a bunch of retarded lunatics that bend to social justice over character and story depth/development. It's fucking insane
Zed these are also the same critics who rated Watchmen above Joker and heaped praise upon the abomination of Star Wars Resistance.
There's no way, I feel like they had to do that so they wouldn't be accused of being sexists/homophobics
...okay, even if we were still forced to compress it into a single episode, here's the basic construction of the 'Hero's relationship falls apart because of time conflicts related to their double-life' cliche. TIME FOR SOME STORYTELLING 101, KIDS.
Setup:
-Hero and Love Interest plan a date
-Love interest is concerned because hero has previously been flaky because of hero commitments, but hero promises to make this particular date
Execution:
-As the hour of said date approaches, a crime happens.
-Hero sees that it's close to the time of the date, but goes to stop the crime anyway.
-Love interest arrives at location of date, only to be alone.
-Show hero fighting crime, with maybe one cut to the love interest, looking at a clock as they sit alone at a table set for two or whatever.
-Hero either fails to arrive at the date all, arrives too late for their date to go through (missed their reservation or somesuch), or arrives after love interest has already left
Ending
-Love interest thinks hero is not serious about their relationship
-Hero can't/won't reveal their double-life
-The relationship is, at least for now, ended
-Ultimately, neither party can be really faulted for the breakup
It's not too difficult to do. But apparently, that's a higher bar than we can expect Batwoman to reach.
Batwoman setup:
-Hero and love interest plan a date
-Love interest is concerned because hero doesn't tell her her whereabouts at all times, or let her read her text messages. Hero, meanwhile, is too fucking dumb to have come up with even a basic, consistent excuse for why she might not be available on any given day/night (like family commitments, or maybe A FUCKING JOB).
Batwoman execution:
-The date and the crime happen at the exact same fucking location. That is a contrivance, at best.
-The only tension happens because, coincidentally, the hero's ex girlfriend is there, and she, hero, and love interest have the emotional maturity of eighth graders. Oh noooo, someone you previously had a relationship with is now meeting your current love interest! This is such an unprecedented and insurmountable crisis that it warrants NINE FUCKING SECONDS of glancing awkwardly between one another. I counted.
-Crime happens, and the crime is stupid. Fuck this show.
Batwoman conclusion:
-Love interest breaks off the relationship despite nothing having changed in her dynamic with hero from before this incident.
-Hero goes along with it, because something something the city deserves it, and isn't she just as self-sacrificing and heroic as her cousin?
Bruce Wayne had to balance his life as Bruce Wayne, billionaire socialite, playboy, philanthropist, and CEO, with his life as Batman, and there were still periodic steady relationships. Kate, on the other hand, can't handle being Batwoman and simultaneously being in a relationship longer than about a week, and she's sufficiently unemployed that she can just up and DECIDE to "go into real estate," for which I imagine she'll be embezzling money from her legitimately successful family members just like she became Batwoman by robbing her cousin.
How does a show like this happen?
11/3 EDIT: Also, before you even _attempt_ an arc like this, it's important to actually establish why the relationship between the hero and the love interest has potential. Each of them should be shown as a positive influence in the other's life, and the hero's double-life has to be shown impacting that mutual happiness in ways that couldn't be reasonably resolved (which includes the use of white lies / half-truths). You have to show a level of trust that gets understandably eroded over time until eventually it comes down to the hero having no recourse but to A) confirm the love interest's fears with an unambiguous lie or refusal to answer or B) finally reveal their heroic alter-ego.
Batwoman execution of this: Kate and Reagan (I had been calling her BartenderLesbian, but thanks to the AV Club article I have a name to assign to her utterly-forgettable personality) meet in the last episode, flirt, and then Kate asks her out at the very end of the episode. This episode, we can't even get through ONE SCENE of them together before A) it's clear that Kate's ineptitude at maintaining a secret identity (rather than the actual difficulties of a secret identity) that are causing problems and B) Reagan is a jealous shrew unwilling to extend even the slightest degree of trust, or at least benefit of the doubt, to her new girlfriend, and all but directly accuses her of infidelity for being even remotely non-transparent about her daily activities.
I didn't go through this the first time around because, at the time of writing, I had unconsciously filed it under 'so obvious that it isn't worth saying,.' Apparently, I forgot that I was dealing with 'Batwoman.'
EDIT 2: Huh. Apparently, when you edit a post that got left a
Simple, the writers of other bad shows that somehow became a success decided they could make this as well (remember: these same guys brought you Arrow, The Flash, and Supergirl. Admittedly, those shows were better than this show, but they were still bad).
@@matthewmuir8884 arrow and the flash started excellent
@@thedarklordx decent.
@@thedarklordx I was referring to how they are now, not how they started.
I tried The Flash. Season 1 was okay (though it did have plenty of issues), but I gave up late into season 2.
Sadly, my favourite of the recent DC TV shows, Gotham, also followed that trend of starting alright and ending up bad. The show's writing was a constant hit or miss, but at least when it was more episodic they could drop some of the misses.
Also, didn't this Love Interest complain about Thomas Elliott being a "carwash of misogyny" because he keeps flirting with women and expects them to sleep with him.
The same woman who then sleeps with the first woman to flirt with her for five minutes....
"This series is perfect"
"It will be, when it's canceled"
Actually , i'm torn because i love those mini EFAPS.
@Honey Badger Even Fecal Material is better than this "Show".
I sit through every friggin episode to better enjoy efap reactions!
Well, its February 2021, and ratings have dipped below 625,000, and audience scores remain in the toilet, but there seems to be absolutely no talk of cancellation from the CW. They are gonna go down with this ship because of their political agendas. At least we have EFAP, Az, JLongbone, Thorias, the Drinker, and the majority of the Fandom Menace to cover this garbage while we laugh and mock this show and its network into oblivion.
@@andrewconrad2859 Not only that, they've been cleared for Season 3.
So the show isn't going to address the imprisonment of the dude and nearly letting him die due to infection? Is this not a crime in itself?
Nope - that's shockingly framed as something 'the good guys' do now. There was a recent captain marvel arc where she was literally running an illegal prison and it was portrayed as a good thing.
In other words, the left wants to gulag you.
No, because she's Batwoman. She's above the law.
Show; "Well what does Bruce do with prisoners?"
Everyone; "You mean criminals? They go to jail"
@Goat Actually they are considered anti-heroes. They are overtly protrayed as morally dubious characters with deep psychological trauma that pushes them over the line of the law out of thirst for revenge.
The Punisher is generally the antagonist in the marvel crossover material he features in. In his own material he kills in cold blood and tortures th bad guys.
@Goat uhhh yes, eat shit.
"An antihero is a main character in a story who lacks conventional heroic qualities and attributes such as idealism, courage and *morality.* Although antiheroes may sometimes perform actions that are morally correct, it is *not always for the right reasons,* often acting primarily out of *self-interest or in ways that defy conventional ethical codes.* "
Wait, what? Martha Wayne's pearl necklace as a symbol of female empowerment? Even if I buy that Martha Wayne was some huge feminist icon even decades after her death, why the hell would they champion the very necklace that SHE WAS MURDERED FOR as representative of her? What if Bruce Wayne walked in through the doors, right then and there, and saw you assholes using his dead mother's necklace as a prop to talk up your charity? And why are the goddamn pearls famous now? What about any of Thomas Wayne's stuff? I bet he had a wallet and a watch that got stolen. Are those in museums, too? It's Han Solo's golden dice all over again, except at least people didn't get killed over those unimportant trinkets.
Also, how would it even get here? They claim that Bruce spent years looking for it and finally bought it for one million dollars at 'an auction'. What? It was stolen by a mugger. Why wouldn't it just get fenced, or end up in a pawn shop? Second, and perhaps more importantly, why the fuck would Bruce Wayne 'donate' it to a museum of antiquities? Why isn't that shit in some kind of Bat-vault under Wayne manor?
'Even if I buy that Martha Wayne was some huge feminist icon even decades after her death'
To be fair, in most continuities Martha and Thomas are both symbols of benevolence, progress and generosity. Don't know why her pearls in particular are something important to her, especially since the iconography of the Wayne's death is those same pearls getting ripped apart.
@@nobody2996 mostly because they wanted it to be fanservice.
in univarse it make no sense why they are important its only relvent as a refrence to fans and its such a lazy way of doing it.
The pearls would be looked at like Jackie O’s bloodied pink dress. It’s part of history.
@@nobody2996 "symbols of benevolence, progress and generosity" "feminism" pick one.
@@velessia4840 They aren't mutually exclusive.
I feel like the most hilarious part about Batwoman is that if the show wasn’t run by propagandist hacks, but everything else about the character was the same she would be written as a villain. She could actually be a really interesting twisted mirror image version of Batman where everything good about Batman and his sacrifices are replaced by a petty person who either thinks they deserve the title or is just jealous of the fame Batman has even though he never wanted said fame.
Her back story consist of people where mean to her once and she never got over it like a spoiled child.
She dawns the persona of the Bat for arguably selfish reasons.
She demands recognition for her actions.
She goes out of her way to alter the suit away from stealth and instead to simply advertise her existence.
She blames others for her failings.
She has undeserved self confidence that borders on overconfidence.
She has no respect for the person who preceded her and would rather tear down that persons image to boost her own.
She simply stands on the backs of others and treats their accomplishments as her own.
The best part is other writers have written this character such as syndrome from the incredibles and the episode of “The Batman” where Joker attempts to steal Batman’s identity
A majority of the more progressive comic book heroes fall into this category. They're all entitled jerks who freak out at the smallest provocation (and assume any criticism is based on in-born traits rather than their actions), all while having the trappings of the characters they are taking the mantle of but none of the underlying principles or philosophies. A great example of this is Iron Heart, the black teenage female iron-man reboot. Riri Williams would make a great villain, but the writers insist that she's a hero, because reasons.
I couldn't find this episode you are talking about.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Batman:_The_Animated_Series_episodes
SPTX it’s from a different series
batman.fandom.com/wiki/The_Batman_Episode_2.04:_The_Laughing_Bat
@@PublicLeeSpeaking oh my gosh, yes! Riri is just a supervillain! No matter how many times I point that out to people, they call me a racist, and I'm black!
Don't even get me started on Kamala Khan, Ms Marvel. Her actions got her friend crippled for life, but he is still played for laughs as the ignorant white boy who will never understand her Islamic culture, despite him constantly trying his best to show interest in her and her family. On top of that, her idol is Captain Marvel, a super powered, self-righteous maniac who killed Iron Man because she couldn't stand the idea that she could be wrong, and then after Civil War 2, everyone is still like "OMG, Carol is the bestest ever!"
No wonder I find myself either rooting for the villains now or just not wanting to engage in superhero hobbies anymore.
Don't forget ms marvel and her junior gestapo in civil war 2. Where they arrested people who were "predicted" to commit crimes and locked them up in a private prison without trial.
Why is Magpie dressed like terrible Hit-Girl cosplay?
Valityr because the writers and director couldn’t be arsed to think up something original.
better question is why they made her a discount cat woman then again they made hush a dumb trump analouge so which other villian are they gonna change entirly
Cause they people behind this show can't think of anything good or original
She stole the costume, just like how Magpies steal things. 10/10 character.
@@wilmagregg3131 Magpie has been around for some time it looks like they are trying to use the Beware the Batman version of Magpie but fucked it up really bad.
Batwoman writers: Okay, so people like everything about Batman so what if everything that is stolen from Batman is turned female and we tell everyone that women exist.
Producer: Well, I suppose that could work, but we would need a good plot to really make it work.
Batwoman writers: Couldn’t hear you. Was putting a wig on the bat suit and creating the love child of the Mad Hatter, Joker, and Two-face.
Producer: Is that the plot?
Batwoman writers: *Strips Catwoman, puts white wig on her* We need to give the entire cast lobotomies.
Producer: The plot?
Batwoman writers: Why do you keep saying that word?
Producer: *slowly dawns on them that their wife was right to leave them*
That was a hell of a journey but it was worth it.
Wayward Spoon and still better written with more subtlety and depth than this show.
You at least tried here, but this writing is as bad as the show's.
@@blackchibisan8116 "and still better written with more subtlety and depth than this show." no. Sadly. And it's sad you have a high enough opinion of your writing to say such things of yourself.
@@virtualmartini More that I've such a low opinion of Batwoman that I know for sure I have taken bowel movements with more lore, buildup, and plot twists than this. Not a joke and there are stories only life can write.
You are somewhat puzzling. Came to my comment written in passing, scrolled down far enough to read my followup, and decided it was worth your time but only to try and deflate my 'ego'.
This is the internet. If you came to the youtube comments section expecting a burn worthy of the stages of old, you have a much higher standard than the forum allows for. Again, that opening comment wasn't a lie, but I don't think it is a burn on Batwoman as much as an expression of disappointment. They are giving me water with unflavored tofu floating in it and telling me it is high class clam chowder. It is none of that. It can hardly be called a soup.
I love batwhamen, it’s turned MauLer from the calm stoic to the Cackler and I love it
Mauler's Superhero Persona: The Cackler
No. Mauler laughs at people ALL THE TIME. Look up his video on Patrick and Last Jedi - he literally just laughs at him. You can claim many things about Mauler but he did not "turn" - laughing is his argument has been his MO for sometime.
FAP: MauLer, Wolf & Appabend laughing at Patrick Willems' hilariously bad TLJ video
ruclips.net/video/dU9Y1kq4yhs/видео.html
PS this was put up by A FAN. How sad Maulie is now reduced to blue milk
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 Jesus dude why are in every EFAP video I click on. It's always to say some outlandish, factually wrong things too.
@@profwasabi4020 Wait I thought EFAP wanted to discuss things OH that was a lie
thanks got it lmao
@@profwasabi4020 And you say outlandish lies too lolol but don't name a single one
The writers must've thought that water is like the water from Minecraft:
As soon as you touch any body of water, your fall is broken; no velocity, no injury.
WATER DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!
I tried jumping off a building once but it just finished raining. I landed in a puddle and failed my suicide.
I don't think these writers know that landing in a pool of water that isn't displaced is almost the equivalent of hitting cement sidewalk. Batwomen fried to straight up murder her.
Once i dropped to pool flat on my back and it's like crashing through 5cm of drywall. And that was just from leaning into the water.
Remember, her sister and mom fell from less distance into much water with much less velocity.
@@vetrais7965 in fairness her sister did surive and I am betting the mother is going to be some big villain next season .
“I’M NOT PLAYING GAMES!”
*literally the next second*
“Eeny, meeny, miny, moe...”
Hahahahahahahaha
I just thought that.
Yeah I don't blame the guy for complaining her finger was pointing at his partner and not at him, he thought she was just playing lmaoo
I'm half-convinced that the writers for this episode have literally never seen any of the Batman films, or even watched an episode of a show that features Batman, because even if I can't say for sure if I've never seen a batarang return to its thrower, I sure as hell never saw one do it after HITTING THEIR TARGET. It's not Captain America's shield, for fuck's sake, and that had to be made out of magic space-metal and thrown by a superhuman to return after being used as projectile weapon.
The only time it returned is if it like hit someone's hand so they dropped their gun.
At this point, I'm half convinved they're trolling
Batman DOES have special batarangs that can change their directory midair but they have to be programmed to do so before being thrown. He also has larger batarangs that do return but are rarely used in any media of batman. But generally they act as shurikens or throwing knives. But let's be honest, at this point do you REALLY think this show cares about continuity?
@@borisindigo5593 It's less about continuity and more just basic logic. If you have a piece of shaped but ultimately mundane metal that's meant to be thrown and shaped to return itself to you, but it hits something...who would assume it would still return to you?
There are remote controlled batarangs in the Arkham game series, but I don't think a batarang that actually hits something ever comes back due to the whole impacting with something.
Lol, she stole Bruce's money too to start that real estate firm.
rpger90 Can’t let a man steal from another woman’s wealth
27:08
Mauler: "NO! Please don't blow up the little girl!"
27:11
Also Mauler: "Please Explode!Please Explode!Please Explode!"
That feeling when you want consistent so much you wish for people to die.
@@dujeanhickling61 that feeling when you want batwoman to fuck up but she doesn't cause women are just so darn perfect
That feeling when Batwoman throws a batawang at a child and you're happy because now the public will bare direct witness to how evil she is, but they fawn over her instead.
"Do, or do not... There is no Batsplaining in this dojo."
@@amanibob1416 oh no
"I'm NOT playing games!"
"Eenie Meenie Minee Mo."
My brain hurtz.
Negan did it better anyway.
hothotheat3000 “Hey Negan did an awesome scene, can we do that?”
@@TravisBroski no
Its so painful how hard Alice tries to be a quirky villain and yet at the same time, wants to be taken seriously.
3 seconds in and Fringy is already pissed.. oh boy this is going to be a good one!
😂😂😂
Brock Lee it sounded like he was ticked off over Terminator Dark Fate only to find a bigger, uglier fish to fry
I mean everybody knows explosions are negated by cape flourishes
Explosions: Cape flourishes. MY ONLY WEAKNESS!
@@beardedbjorn5520 That and turning your back to them while slowly walking away.
Explosions; "All I wanted to do was give this little girl a slight bunr mark on her hand."
Batwoman; cuts entire hand off with batarang.
Sassamatass couldn’t stop laughing at how she smothers the CG flame explosion with her _exposed lower face!_
We need Shadiversity's take on this.
Joker: Created by Meritocracy Hires.
BatWahmen: Created by Diversity-Quota Hires.
WAH!
I've really been struggling on the terminology for my frustration since seeing all this. "Propagandist" had also fit super well.
The world keeps getting more complicated.
My genuine thanks to you.
LOL Joker: Created by Meritocracy Hires.
Todd made money from Hangover - thats how he did Joker. He may be talented but Hollywood is about money not talent only rarely does "merit" matter so what is your point?
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 Lmaoo, isn’t the fact that he made money on another project of his prove the OP’s point? Isn’t the fact that he made money and was successful proof of his own merit? Or does it not count cause you say so haha. So, what is your point?
@@SteveSmith-ty8ko isn’t the fact that he made money on another project of his prove the OP’s point?
JJ made TFA which is one of the most profitable films of all time are you saying JJ is a great director?
That AV Club segment gave me cancer.
"Alice is a PERFECT VILLAIN"
"Did you all die at Mary's Alice impression?"
"... it's a bummer their relationship (Batwoman and lesbian-woman) didn't work out right now."
Blegh...
Fringy's rage at the beginning is how I feel with Batwoman. Batman is my favorite superhero and he's been crime fighting for years and probably has never taken a break but when he does Kate gets pissed let's a criminal go and steals his stuff then claims to be better like excuse me! Bruce would never let someone like the Joker, Scarecrow, or who ever to roam the streets or compromise with them so that they don't kill anyone. It bothers me that if you criticize this show you are labeled misogynist but this show is just bad and they could do so much with it
Where’s the Robins? Like, I guess Robin, Red Robin, Nightwing and Red Hood just don’t exist.
@@outstandingdogmarron9890
Batgirl too
Imagine barbra completely showing her up
@@alexlee4154 actually now that i think about it WHERES COMMISNER GORDON?
Not to mention, Batman's actually been in that same position of "having a loved one turn evil" and made the decision to take them down rather than letting them go free...MULTIPLE TIMES! This is the same dude who has contingency plans to take down the other members of the Justice League in case any of them ever went rogue! This Bat-Bitch is not, nor will she ever be, better than Batman!
Hands down, the absolute WORST Show of 2019!
I don't know, the watchmen is giving it a run for its money.
Shawn M
Okay yeah... That show sucks. But I think this shows sucks Harder!
@@shawnm1902 They made Rorschach a white supremacist in the show. I wouldn't watch that trash even if they were doing it.
FutureElement9 rorschach isnt in the show
Micah/Dark Fantasy Writer game of thrones?
You guys missed my favorite part of this episode.
Kate's ex-"heard about the new Bat?"
Kate-"uh it's batwoman and she's bestest thing to happen to gotham ever."
LATER
Kate-"I think my Ex is on to me that i'm batwoman, god how does bruce keep this a secret?"
This feels more and more like it's a tongue in cheek satire about SJW agendas in entertainment media.
I wish it was.
You guys skipped over one of my favorite additions to the batcave. Butler had a concealed taser hidden under the bat desk in the batcave. The same taser he had in the pilot. That's why it took him so long to catch her the first time she broke in. He literally had to go to the batcave to get his taser to catch her first.
Wow. That’s pure idiocy from that guy. Why was he left to protect the Batcave again? He is useless.
Outstanding Dog Marron Affirmative action.
Smh, just..........so stupid
@@dusky5535 no it was nepotism. You forget his dad was Morgan Freeman.
@@outstandingdogmarron9890 He's a lot more competent in the comics. He's Bat-Wing in the comics. He's also the son of Lucius Fox (aka Bruce Wayne's tech guy).
Kate (batwoman) trips over nothing, falls face first onto the pavement resulting in a broken nose.
Kate : Im pretty sure gotham sidewalks are calibrated for batman.
I thought that the thumbnail was Danny Devito as the art snob on Always Sunny
You're not alone.
I just searched for these reactions on RUclips and found there are ACTUALLY fangirls of this show who seem to unironically like it...
As if I wasn't suicidal enough already!!!
Greatest preventor of suicide - procrastination.
It's not you, it's them. Relax.
Don't lose hope, mylord! Your kingdom needs you more than ever!
Also, your comments are usually a highlight of EFAP content, so hang in there : the Toxic Brood shall endure
Someone, anyone, please mercy kill me.
I feel myself dying bit by bit, end me...
I apologize for my gender.
And my species.
And.. life in general
I come to these efaps so I don't have to give CW views for this dumpster fire but I also get you'r guys reaction to so win win.
So what do you do for a living?
"Security for Wayne Enterprises."
Oh, that explains why you operate out of Wayne Tower, go to ritzy events, and get phone calls at all hours.
"Yeah Bruce Wayne is my cousin. It isn't something I try to keep secret."
You do realize Gotham is a fictional place and Bats doesn't really exist. Its a myth. It is not meant to be realistic.
@Chan Thorpe I’m pretty sure bats are real, unless they’ve gone extinct and I haven’t heard yet.
Edit: forgot to ‘@‘
@@OrkOfOhio LOL I didn't mean "Bats" the animals. Its a nickname if you knew DC comics or the films - you'd know that
But thanks in your failing attempt to appear smart. Had a good chuckle
www.quora.com/What-are-the-nicknames-that-the-Joker-has-called-Batman#:~:text=In%20order%20of%20prevalence%20in%20published%20comics%3A&text=Batsy-,Bats,The%20Dark%20Knight
@ Chan Thorpe Laughter at my own expense is my speciality.
@@OrkOfOhio Huh?
You notice how the show just skipped over the guard who died last week because of Kate's refusal to stop Alice. You would think that a normal person would have some kind of reaction to finding out their actions resulted in a death.
DwolfFW Batman sure would
Kate sees dead guard on the floor.
Kate sees the the dead guard's legs are spread.
Kate: ugh he's manspreading.
Kate walks away.
Eventually, every frame of a Batwoman episode will be paused and laughed at, just like the prophecy foretold
Just as the spiders predicted
9:50 "How was he nearly killed?" With this level of writing I would believe it if someone told me "He was wearing bomb proof shoes".
Who even says "nearly killed" rather than "critically injured" anyways. In actual news they always seperate dead, life-threatening injured and injured but guaranteed to live :/
What dose it matter if Kate is at the party with someone else? YOU’RE MARRIED!
BigBroLittleSis1 But they’re L E S B I A N S
*you're
But yeah; this and Korra are two examples of an old cliché I absolutely loathe: "I have a significant other! But we (the protagonist and I) have something special!" It's so stupid and contrived.
Matthew St. Cyr well I’d like to see this connection beyond flashbacks saying “we shagged at boot camp” and I think something about her being there for Kate after her mom and sister died? During a scene of her yelling at her dad I think. I don’t really know, they haven’t done anything with that... dose that mean they have known each other since they were kids? I feel like showing them like that, her comforting and being there for Kate after the accident when they were both still young would have done far more to establish this “connection” then... random making out at boot camp... followed by... random getting kicked out and girlfriend choosing her own life and career over... what seems like just a fling.
@@BigBroTejano I agree. That's part of what I meant by contrived. It hasn't been developed at all, and even if it were, I personally would still find it almost unbearable to watch simply because it's such a tired old cliché that makes very little sense.
If it was maybe a case of forced or unhappy marriage it would be an interesting emotional development. It could have been "I wish I could still be with you and be happy, than be stuck attatched at the hip to this monster." Instead, we get "Ugh, why aren't you attracted to me anymore even though I'm happily married and you have every right to move on and live a life of your own?!"
It literally looks like a 12yr old boy walking out the lift who had just stolen his dad's motorbike. The 2 sizes too big leather jacket and an over sized helmet lol
'They were such a good match for each other. It's a shame the relationship between these two didnt work out."
... somebody describe either character. Who are they? What are their personalities or qualities outside of being Lesbotisms?
The fans of this show will clap at the most shallow, key jangling nonsense to the point of 'yay, a pair of scissors being mashed together, I'll ship that!"... ^.-.^
Haven't you heard. Lesbian + lesbian is perfect match. Who needs personalities (actually for these 2 that probably is their entire personality, just like certain people who would think this is great).
2 Pairs of scissors is, in my honest opinion, way more interesting than these two doing it. Not only can 2 pairs of scissors allow you to be more creative and productive than everyone who worked on this show put together, have you ever felt what its like to have a brand new, expensive pair of scissors in your hands? They feel so nice!
so today we had discount Catwoman with some Penguin gadgets
And the main villain is the Joker and Mad Hatter put together basically. And wasn’t that rich guy basically just Justin Hammer from Iron Man?
Can we get Frank Gorsha's Riddler? It'd be amazing!
Best I can do is the Puzzler.
@@shadowapocalypse9012 Riddler was hinted at by that horrid version of Hush. But as they did just use Magpie over Catwoman, Puzzler or Calculator wouldn't surprise me. But Calculator is far less likely, he might make us think of Stephanie or Barbara and we can't have people thinking of a good female Bat can we.
@@rolkflameraven1483 hell they dont even acknoledge that any of the bat family exist wheres any of the robins nightwing batgirl hell wheres COMMISINER GORDON even if he retired hed still be a majour figure
The only time Batman has taken a prisoner (to my knowledge) is in Batman vs Dracula, when the Joker was turned into a vampire, who he fed (with his own blood) and used to find the cure for vampirism. He also put Joker back in Arkham after he cured him. A little more justified than Batwoman, don’t you think?
Also, Batwoman is red underlined when I type it. Batman is not. Autocorrect is correct for the first time.
You gotta love how the writers think the audience is so incompetent that they have to have the themes told to them through narration.
Like the Last Jedi?
35:20 YES!
Batwoman throws a batarang and saves the girl's life, BUT, since she is bad with those (as we could see previously), she badly wounds the girl. Maims her for life.
And, ultimately, she saved the girl, but if she practiced more, instead of throwing a tantrum before, she'd be able to save that girl without cutting her fingers off.
But, again, that would imply that she isn't literally perfect.
I think that would be a bit too dark, it would be better if they were just useless in her hands, she often missed and their wounds were glancing and the batarangs are easily deflected. Then she thinks they're useless and stops using them, eventually she needs them and learns their use then resolves to practice with them.
By the end of the series she throws knives like Arrow does.
“What do I do when they start threatening the lives of REAL dummies?”
- Batbilbo
Balbo.
Bruce baggins.
...Bilbo Wayne?
Jesus guys, it’s Billbo Batkins.
Are you Bilbosplaining to us? *offended*
You can tell how much worse each episode gets, based on how these videos continue to get longer, and longer.
Last episode of the season we're gonna feel the true EFAP experience with close to eight hours
* Watching some other video *
* EFAP Batwoman notification * >Screw that
* IMMEDIATELY drop other video *
>My EFAP dose is here
Just did that now lool
Mauler pulling a Batman Forever quote, there.
"Too many questions..."
William Gionet - just wait for the Batman & Robin quotes.
Kate Kane: Cool party!
Throwing knives have to be calibrated to the person throwing it?
Does the mass and center of gravity change depending on who’s holding it?
What?
Shhh. Turn your brain off, and look at the womens.
Actually it makes sense. Throwing knives meant for a woman of a completely different height, mass/weight, build, body type, muscle distribution, bone structure and center of gravity would probably be a lot different. Maybe they're too heavy for her.
@@thedarklordx Its called Practicing with the fucking weapon.
Producer: "...and for the action scenes, we need something that goes like: 'Dun-Duh, duhduhduh, DUN-DUH! Can you do that?"
Composer: "Sure! What's the budget on that?"
Producer: "An Amazon gift-card and this half-eaten sandwich."
And a glass of Rhino milk
And you can only use the Amazon card on books.
Bruce left Gotham because he almost killed his niece after having a bad dream. Now he lives in the most unfindable place in the world, waiting for death in hope of ending the practice of people dressing up in rubbersuits with him.
10:17 cmon guys, she’s obviously using the BAT-STRAP
Wouldn't that hurt?
commander x ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But what if the bat strap is calibrated for Bruce?
Mister Auto shiiiiieeeet
@@auto-- Can't stop the patriarchy i guess
My wife is a huge fan of this character, and she tells me this show has completely "bastardized the character."
laserwolf65 Oh god I read the first sentence and was scared to think your wife loved this show.
Honestly, after looking through issue 1, the biggest bastardization of this show and character is the dark, de-saturated colors in this show. The art, and the colorist especially, is what carries that comic, not the writing. This show just borrows sets from Arrow and even when this show is at its relative best, it's made for efficiency reasons. Why use cheap CGI explosions? Because blowing up real fireworks requires more prep time. Why not fix those CIG explosions? There's no budget for it. Why do impact physics not apply? Because it takes too long to get these actors react to explosions or attacks they can't see.
@@TravisBroski sameee lol was gonna say time for divorce 😅
So, if she missed with the first batarang throw of the episode, claiming that they were somehow wrong, that means that had to have been her very first throw ever with a deadly, razor sharp boomerang. So, on her second throw ever, her only other experience being an inaccurate mess she throws that same deadly fucking weapon at a small girl, which somehow hits the small pearl with the very tip of its edge and then carries it off into the sky. Nevermind the fact that physically having something hanging on one end of a boomerang would completely fuck up its trajectory. Nevermind the fact that even if she did land that throw exactly like its shown, that the batarang would just stick in and stop dead because the girl is fucking holding the pearl.
But realistically, the best case scenario is that she would have sliced that girls fucking fingers clean off, she should have. Even if it was the most accurate throw possible, her fingers would be gone. How she managed to throw it that accurately on her FIRST EVER throw with it 'Calibrated' properly, is insane. but she is a woman and women can do no wrong, even the murdering psychopaths. What would have happened realistically is that either she would have completely missed or that razor sharp weapon would have ended up inbedded somewhere in that girls body, probably her head. Taking her fingers off is realistcally the best case scenario.
Jesus christ this is a fucking mess.
Oh, and to answer the question, Yes I found this channel through the batwoman reviews. It's the best way to view these episodes because its not even worth it to pirate them
Wasn't there a batarang stuck in the bad guy last episode though? Hmm...
@@hassathunter2464 Well either she stabbed him with it, or the writers completely forgot as they wouldn't have had this little plot thread in this episode.
15:48 Beginning of a legend... WHAT YA BRING ME
Her landing in the pool wouldn't have just killed her, it would have mangled her body.
Still water has a 'skin' on the surface which is slightly elastic. This means when something hits water at a high enough height, the waters 'skin' will bend and snap back like a trampoline, creating even more force.
A great episode of Brainiac did a test on this, and showed at a height 5 stories (I think) it's safer to land on concrete, which would break both your legs, than water, which would crush your body.
As a side note, running water does not have this 'skin' as the movement breaks it
Also why diving pools will have bubble blowing machines in them, to break up that surface.
Also, it feels like no one in the creative team of this shitshow have any idea how Newtonian physics work. Like, at all.
Inertia, gravity, leverage, counter-Force, velocity, acceleration - wat is dat? Me a drop out, me never lernt de lessuns!
So the reason Kate Kane and Love Interest relationship has progressed so rapidly since last episode is because this episode takes place a couple months after last episode. This is because of a crossover between the CW DC shows.
Doesn't excuse the tism and awful writing
Do they show their relationship in the crossover? If not then it really doesn’t matter as you still don’t know how close they are.
@@outstandingdogmarron9890
If I'm remembering it correctly in the crossover they dont even mention anything about Kate Kane's personal life besides that she is Batwhamen. It's just an excuse the writer's used to not have to work hard.
I thought the cross over takes place after this episode since in the cross over Kate is already opening a real estate firm
If this timeline is true then that means Kate had Alice's boyfriend in captivity in terrible conditions for months. Which is insane and goes to show how mental Kate is.
@@DwolfFW Then that man is dead.
10:15
She looks like Bieber from that angle. And other angles. All...all angles.
15:50 *"Whatcha bring me?" meme origin identified*
Your hunt is over, Commenter.
Message received, over and out.
15:51
The birth of a legend
I feel like there's also some disconnect here with Bruce's childhood friend from ya'll not being comic readers. Not that anything is wrong with what's said about him in these videos, but how he's far worse than what you might imagine. He's not just some "billionaire man," he's Tommy Elliot, AKA Hush. A relatively recent but pretty big deal to the Batman mythos. Here though? Essentially just "billionaire man". That's a pretty big issue as well.
2:55 But the most important quesition: Is it more lethal than the bat meat cleavers?
Hello all my n-words!
15:51 The moment Jacob Kane became the best character of this show (not that hard to achieve though)
So... by this shows logic: proudly out gay people can never plan or even be invited to a surprise party due to being too proud about their "secrets".
I've had to actually pause sometimes to just comprehend the shite this show has become. Thank god you guys are making this funny. Glad I skipped on it, looks like a way to reduce brain cells
And a way to see how NOT to write a show.
@Goat you know your shit. This fuck uppery was never even remotely close to being at least neutral, watching the trailers already made sure of it
She WAS holding her breath and she sneezed... You sneeze because the feeling comes on when you are BREATHING
*sees woman in thumbnail*
No... please GOD NO that is NOT CATWOMAN.
I genuinely thought that was danny devito in a wig and was just a meme i was unfamilliar with
Dc has quite a few thieves with weird specialized targets. Magpie being known for stealing gems named after birds. There's also some weird guy that has a split personality that thinks he's the reincarnation of a Pharaoh, and only steals Egyptian related Items.
Hollow Tangent That’s like kids-Show supervillains
@@TravisBroski Lets be honest, that's the level of villains this show could hope to handle (not that they do). Imagine how poorly they would portray more serious villains they can't even portray Alice well. This show feels like watchin Adam West's batman dressed with a serious tone and stripped of the comedy.
The moment we heard batsplaining. We all know who is making this series. Damn sjws
Wasn't it already obvious from the first episode?
You mean the trailer? Yes.
Eventually these will reach regular EFAP lengths
The dream
“I’m a woman!”
-Bilbo Battins
52 MINUTES?! #ShortManBad
Well it does say EFAP mini
There were better CGI explosions in Xena Warrior Princess.
Am I right?
Also Xena and Gabrielle is a far better lesbian romance than Kate Kane and whoever.
People been telling me that the Millionaire that stole the gun was Hush in the comic. If it true then it sad to see them destroy this once great character.
It's a good thing noone will ever treat this show's contents as Canon in any way.
Don't worry its not canon and no one is watching this show anyway
Im more suprise that they waste him so soon and for a role that could have been given to a name goon. He more of a season long villain then Alice. Like they didn't even put any effort at all on him, not even 1 percent effort.
@@definitelyadarkangel9225 canon to what? The comics? Don't know why you'd think that as even the good shows aren't canon to the comics
She blamed the baterwang designed being for a man and it should be designed for her.
Did a news reporter just say "Bling Theft" ffs
I believe is supposed to be Rachel Maddow. Really cringe and in character, frankly.
@@timothydelacy9571 the character is called Vespar Fairchild voiced by Maddow
"Wa dja bring me?" The birth of a meme, It's a truly beautiful thing.
15:51 The original "What'd you bring me?"
Odd thing to gripe about but...
What's the point in shipping two characters from a TV show that are already actually in a relationship in said TV show?
That's not shipping, that's being able to comprehend what's happening in the show! FFS!
Guess it's shipping since they broke up?
@@hassathunter2464 I guess...
Batwoman could give Scorpion a run for his money, that was the best "Get over here" BS I've ever seen. Batwoman next dlc character for MK11?
Hey think about it
That means we can do fatalities on her
Id like to see the look on her face when sub zero removes her head and then completely obliterates it...
I think i have problems
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@Andrew Whiting
I dont think it was really that bad. They definitely developed issues but they only really extend to one stupid arcade ladder ending and the character designs which i dont think have changed enough to be worth getting upset over.
ChrisAC30 Can we make up intro dialogues with her? I’m sure we can make a few good ones
@Andrew Whiting
I dont know man i just dont see it
I will concede though that from what i understand the power scaling is boned often in favour of the females (noob saibot vs jaqui briggs or cassie cage vs anyone amongst others) and that whoever said they were doing some huge gender equality thing by changing the designs was being a dick
I think i might be a bit biased because i quite like most of the new designs and i really hate some of the old ones (mk9 skarlet in particular)
Is it me, or is Ruby conflating emoting with adding vocal fry to line delivery? Because it sounds like that with any line that's supposed to be delivered in an emotional fashion.
It does really bring together the whole '14 year-old' aesthetic. There are probably tons of outtakes where her voice cracks.
Her acting is as wooden as her strap on.
I'm surprised that when Bortwoman pulled Cowpie off the building, she didn't land on the little girl and kill them both.
Like "whoops, still in training!"
The grappling hook wasn't specifically calibrated for a vagina having person. The weight of a penis (And the increase muscle ma- oh wait that's sexist facts) utterly throws it off.
15:51 And thus a meme was born.
Nobody:
Bat woman: IM A WAHMEn
Normal people, when they want to get good at something, they practice it. Over and over and over. Piano, throwing knives, anything. Alf should have just said GIT GUD and stood his ground.
...And now I get to the part where you guys say that exact thing...
Tbh blondie has all the hall marks of an EXTREMELY CRAZY EX: She's insecure, controlling, demands all of her time and secrets for nothing in return despite being with Kate for less than 24 hours!!
Fun fact: Alice's actress played a completely butchered and character-assassinated Elizabeth I on Reign, one of the worst shows I have ever seen. And she's even worse there.
Oh my god, you're right it is the same actress! Thanks for pointing that out, I would have never realized.
Reign is hilarious, especially the complete and utter disregard for historical accuracy.
@@capedia4752 I know! It's insanely bad, but I couldn't tear my eyes away.
I see a new EFAP looking at the new Batwamen episode
*slams desk*
“Watcha bring me!”
Hello N-Words💪🏼
Dats racist
Greetings my negro comrade
@@_____Astral_____ Did you just call me the SPANISH WORD FOR THE COLOR BLACK
Hello there, melanin-enriched kin of mine.
Hello Nebraskans
15:51 WHATCHA BRING ME
They literally start and end arcs in every episode, don't they?
Pretty much a season worth of content put into an episode which is insane.
What the hell did you do with my lunch, monster?!
*little girl picks up bomb*
Mauler: "Please explode, please explode, please explode!"
Was the budget actually above $500?
hey, After Effects Explosion Plug-in #37B ain't free
@@clamstain I.....I feel like you are serious.
I came back to watch this episode because I missed old school "Fringy from the bottom of a well" voice.
- Ability to mod stuff that belongs to other people
- Shitty looking explosions
- Character take no fall damage as long as they land in water
I think Batwoman might just be a game made in the Source Engine.
Guilty!
I've recently started watching y'all for the Batwoma'am reviews. I just couldn't bare giving the show one more viewer, so it's a great compronise...even more so, since y'all are _actually_ entertaining.