Guys, it seems that after all the Ryzen 7 9800X3D review was out and I didn't show it here (brain malfunctioning lol), but it is more of the same copy paste crap saying that the 9800X3D is only good for canned benchmarks, in cache sensitive scenarios with a 4090, and that the 9800X3D user must expect FPS drops 😂😂
they drew backlash from the tech community with both Techspot and Tom's reporting it. Saying something like x3D cpus are pointless for gaming and it's all AMD marketing BS and that you should just buy an oxidizing Intel i5 instead 😂. Truly sad Google keeps promoting their BS in their search results.
there are urban legends that AMD snobbed him in providing helpful samples and data at the start of the site and the guy simply kept the grudge going. Only thing that kept intel afloat more than necessary was their marketing. Imho they should have been dumped when they started with new mobo each generation, it's a completely wasteful and anti consumer approach
Because of Userbenchmark I replaced my 7800X3D with a Core2Duo E4300. Wonderful, I have no stutters at all anymore because I get 1 fps per year now so the image is perfectly stabile.
You've made the best decision of your life friend, welcome back to the winning team! In camp blue, dual and quad cores are as good as they've ever been, just like in the highly refined 14nm days!
I upgraded from 16GB DDR4 CL16 to 2GB DDR3 CL9, because latency is the only thing that matters, according to Userbenchmark! Now I never get frame drops in AAA games (because the games won't launch, but you don't need to worry about that). Thanks, Userbenchmark!
This is old logic 2017 Athlon 60% 2008 core to quad same core count went up to 4.2 GHz that is right this logic only applies to super old processors 4.2 GHz when the Intel i7 6 gen Will outperform at 1.5ghz
The funny thing is, the consumer grade Intel CPUs with lots of weaker cores are actually better in productivity and server workloads, but they keep destroying themselves due to Intel and mobo manufacturers pushing them too hard to keep up with AMD's single core top end... So AMD ends up being better in that use case too, just because they're less likely to nuke themselves.
Accusing AMD doing advanced marketing with youtubers is weird because that same youtubers (and probably all reviewer) are bashing Ryzen 9000 series non x3D.
Don't underestimate conspiracy theorists' willingness to explain away literally anything that appears to contradict their beliefs. I'm sure it's an elaborate scheme, and parts without v-cache are only there to give legitimacy to shills' push for the x3D CPUs. Or something.
Gamers bashing the 9000 series was cringe anyways when the CPUs are not designed for gamers but rather high workload workstations. In fact gamers whining about CPUs is insane anyways because 99% of us don't have a 4090 to even make the CPU an issue in gaming.
Same, I'm glad I picked Ryzen 5 1400 over the i5 7400 back then, thanks to that I had upgrade options that were not horrible. İ7 7700 for double the price of a R5 1600 ? Yea no way. Actually it may have been even more that that...
@@TheShmrsh oh boy. do you even understand how benchmarks work? you use the strongest GPU with low resolution on purpose SO THAT your GPU doesn't bottleneck the CPU because you want to know the max. performance of the CPU 🤣
Really? I hate Radeon because I have fps droop and very unstable fps on RX7800XT, 6900XT and in past 280x. On nVidia zero problems high, smooth and stable fps.
UserBenchmark has been a kind of meme for years now, but it's always funny to see how, over the years, they continue to repeat the same crap over and over again. Even after AMD is wiping the floor with Intel's best offerings, UserBenchmark never stands down with "cherry-picked benchmarks in 1080p with [insert top performer GPU here]". Thanks Fabio! :D
1080p + flagship GPU benchmarks make a lot of sense for CPU benchmarking. It's the best way to isolate its effects. It's how we know you can get 1500FPS on CS using the ryzen. Standard procedure for years
Bruh, I've used that site a bunch of times and never read the review portion. It's unhinged... the page for my 7800 called buyers "lacking in critical thinking skills" and then ranted about how great they thought the 4070 was.... loool
even the stats portion are quite sus because a while back they invented this made-up statistic called "eFPS" that only them can measure and somehow always favor intel
Hi man! What AMD processor you have in your system? I ask this because I am in a small Discord servers of the youtuber The Evil Land and a lifelong AMD user from Ryzen 1000 told me in his own words: "Well, we talked about that I had the 7950X3D and I had random blue screen crashes and so on, I adjusted it and it went wrong anyway. There was no way I could get it to go right and keep the temperature below 95 degrees under load." I would love to go for a Ryzen 7600 because the difference against the 7600X is little (although more accentuated in productivity) and has excellent consumptions and temperatures. That's why I ask which processor you have because I'm afraid to go for the 7600 and have problems, I do not know if the user I quoted had a bad unit or he did not know how to use his computer (although he told me that he updated 6 times the BIOS and blocked the turbo but his problems continued).
@@jackgreen05i have a 7800x3d ive had no issues and been loving the performance of this processor and before this cpu ive had the 5600x and had no issues with that cpu either.
@@jackgreen05 Sounds like your friend had issues with their cooling, not the cpu itself. They probably forgot to take off the sticker from their cooler or something lol. I have a 7600x with a peerless assasin 120se (installed properly) and it basically never goes above 70c, idles around 40c.
Sounds like an inadequate cooler for a Ryzen 9, bad cooler mounting, or maybe he forgot to peel the sticker off the cooler which isn't that hard to do. I've built and sold over 100 PCs in the last year and sometimes I'll get in a rush or something and simply bypass peeling the sticker on the cooler on accident, until I see the temps and fan speeds immediately jump. I always feel so stupid because of the experience I have now, but it can happen to anyone.
Dear AMD... Please sue UserBenchmark, then use the money you get from suing UserBenchmark to offset your pricing of next gen product so more people will love you more! 💌
Same. I never bothered to read the write-ups for the same reason. But it turns out the rest of the content isn't so great either. I stopped looking at that site altogether.
@@thomaslayman9487 Lmao false af, for 210$ or so rn you can get 13600KF. Ryzen 7700 performs worse in productivity slightly better in gaming and cost like 60$ more. For gaming alone 7600 is much better value as it is cheaper, has an iGPU and includes cooler in the box but for gaming+productivity 13600K and KF are great value provided you can use all those cores. in fact, AMD has been ignoring budget markets for quite a while now, ryzen 3s are completely dead and lower end R5s like 7500 haven't been released ( worldwide) for higher end stuff AMD is better value, especially in gaming
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat as a gaming CPU, i'd still take 170€ 5700X3D over the intel, since i can slot it in existing AM4 platforms and it STILL performs good compared to modern components. It beats out the intel 13600 and even 14600 quite easily. Especially now when intel was forced to down-tune the CPUs so they wouldnt kill themselves. For production, cheapest alternative that gets very close is 5900x (220€). I bought my at launch for 500€ and it is still kicking ass. What beats 13600kf is 5950x (280€). Both are EXTREMELY efficient production cpus. What I absolutely love is that we have choices. Even with intel, at this price-point, you can't really go wrong. But current gen, if money isn't that big of an issue, AMD all the way.
@@rohesilmnelohe I like the idea of AMD replacing 4 core Ryzen 3 parts with AM4 parts, giving the budget builder what they actually deserve. A 5950XT/5950X3D both priced at $399, one for Productivity and one for Gaming. Endgame AM4, it would be beautiful.
I'm actually tired of telling people close to me to not use UssrBench for anything. Amd should sue them, we should boycott them more, this is beyond pathetic.
It should be called USSRbenchmark. In soviet russia you couldnt say the truth or you’d die, so nobody said anything truthful to their military instructors. They would rather people die on planes than say something about a mistake made in the design
The sad thing about UserBenchmark is that it could be a decent "30 second search" tool to get a quick "feel" for the products, kinda like Metacritic - not the whole picture but a quick decent check. I remember like 10+ y ago finding the site and putting CPUs side-by-side trying to make a purchasing decision. I was still learning about the PC space then. Thankfully, I never read their reviews and never got influenced by them, and over the years I managed to find the best review and tech sites and RUclipsrs - of which Ancient Gameplays is a part of. I honestly don't understand how such insanity can exist in this space, where there are actual quantitative tests you can do to compare performance between different components such as CPUs, GPUs, RAM, etc - it's a much more objective space in the testing side of things, than subjective. But the kind of unhinged writing from UserBenchmark is completely bewildering, and also some of their metrics like "number of cores" or "age" or "consumer sentiment" that go into the score....
They also complteely nerfed the value of 5th and higher cores on CPUs until intel released mainstream parts with more than 4. they legitimately weighed only the first 4 cores in the scoring and pretty much ignored the performance any higher core count was giving.
I have the 5800X3D and a 7900XT. As my 4K TV can only output at 60hz, I feel as though my setup should be good for a while yet. That is when I'm not activating ray-tracing. Only then do I want to upgrade the GPU to nVidia. So I try not to. I'm not sure RDNA4 GPUs will have caught up with their RT performance, when they are released, but we shall see.
I upgraded after a years of using the GTX 1060 3Gb to the RTX 2070 Super for a couple months after it died. 2 months ago I switched to AMD and got myself the RX 6800 and I'm in love with it and AMD in general. I'll never go back to NVIDIA and their criminal prices.
LMFAO..... My XFX 7900XT ($650 plus $80 in Amazon rewards) in Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p with 270+ mods, LUT, Reshade, high/max settings, path tracing with FSR 3.1 or XeSS I get 75+ fps with my 5700X3D $190. I upgraded from R7 1700 $200 and GTX 1080 $400 on a X470 $190, same platform over 8 years upgrade from a sold 1080/1440p 60+ fps to 1440/4k 60+fps with minimal spending. I suggest everyone to research everywhere for unbiased reviews, ask questions, and know your targets, is it high frames, smooth and beautiful, longevity and upgradability? This is why PC is master race is king.
without AMD on the market we will be doomed, they are fighting two sides at the same time and beating by far one side and the other one giving a good battle. CPU / GPU market, they bring so much on the table, amd are the best
@@nischay4760 when you steal everything good from the competition then buy them out to shut them down, things happen when companies are allowed to behave with such impunity and morons ignore when the competition brings a better product because it's not nVidia so it must not be good cause nVidia is the "way it's meant to be played" if ever there was a more monopolistic and shady marketing strategy I've never seen it, paying game makers to overuse features that do little to nothing for visuals just to hinder performance on AMD for literal decades and then don't even update that crutch after they get 3Dmark to use it in their tests giving them artificially boosted physics/combine/total scores in the tests.
Fabio, my man! Thanks for bringing more awareness about UB's ridiculous and misleading bias towards AMD CPU's. This information is especially important for those new and returning PC gamers.
AMD GPU driver problems are real although nowhere near as bad as some people say, but still anybody denying them is a fool . However their chipset drivers and BIOSes have been very stable foor such a long time, I am baffled how some people have the balls to say that intel is more stable especially after raptor eats the lake disaster.
nah brother, on polaris I get instability very frequently. Multiple Windows reinstalls did not help. Sometimes I go for a month without issues and then spend 3 days with constant timeouts. Gonna buy an 8800XT though once it releases, sick of this card now.
@@NineS5have you considered the card might be dying or is defective? Besides that I highly recommend for amd gpus certified display port cable or hdmi cable, when connected to a 4k tv or high refresh rate 1440p monitor, it would drop signal a lot with the standard cable for me, switched to (Cable matters) certified cable and no issues since.
@@dagnisnierlins188 Its a probability, its over 6 years old now. I did keep it cool and change its thermal paste frequently over the years too, but hardware still degrades. I believe up till RDNA 1 the drivers were not fully stable yet, but they matured a lot now. My buddy with a 7800xt never got a single issue yet. I'll look into using different cables for now maybe it will help. However an upgrade is long due now haha.
The funny thing is, we wish AMD's marketing was as great as Luserbenchmark makes them out to be. AMD does a horrible job at pricing and marketing their own products. Its a miracle that 9800x3d launched so soon and even below 500$ msrp. If it was the rdna 3 marketing team, the cpu would be over 800$.
Being able to be confronted with evidence that you are wrong, understanding that you are wrong and changing your stance is so rare these days. Love your content keep up the good work!
In 3 years, steam sent me 0 surveys on my main rig with a 6950xt, 2 surveys on my media pc with a 1080ti and 2 surveys on my RTX 3070 laptop. So those surveys should be taken with some salt.
after using my pc for 3 years i just got like the last 1 , thoose before didn't reach me, so that Amd not showing up makes complete sense. + People like to stomp on Amd but if it where not them the xbox/ ps5 did cost 1k+ and the steam deck would not exist. sooo ehh
Surely AMD has a valid case to sue for misinformation at this point, they aren't even hiding how delusional and wrong they are. Literally a case of purposeful brand defamation, and such a large % of those who use the site aren't aware of it so it's definitely hurting their brand. Something has to be done.
That would just make people think that whoever writing these reviews is on to something. I'm sure amd is not worried about this random nobody when there are plenty of unbiased benchmarks showing the truth.
@@iamspencerxUnfortunately, you would be surprised how many people use the site. It appears first on Google when comparing CPU's or GPU's. The website is nicely formatted in a way that's easy to read. For a person new to comparing CPU's or GPU's, this is likely going to be their first source of information. As long as they don't read reviews, they will end up trusting this information.
@@iamspencerx A LOT of people use it, type in any cpu or gpu like for example "4070 vs 4080" or "7800x3d vs 9800x3d" and Userbenchmark is always a top option, which indicates it has the highest traffic.
This guy is coping so, so hard. Now that AMD is the unquestioned leader in gaming CPUs his commentary is more unhinged than ever. It was bad enough when the comparison was close but now he’s completely deranged.
im almost positive the page owner just uses AI to write the reviews at this point. lmao. its way too similar to every other amd review on UBM..... the 9800x3d literally poops on every other cpu on earth in gaming. dude got hurt really bad in the past and cant let it go... im starting to think its run by 1 guy in his early 20s. its literally like a troll reddit sub. delusion everywhere
He just copy pastes the same review, then swaps out a few CPU or GPU names. Pull up a 1700x, 2700x, 3700x, 5800x3d, and so on, each review is basically exactly the same. AMD GPU reviews also look pretty much the same.
I personally use a 7950x3D paired with a 4090 and couldn't be any happier. I am extremely happy I have switched from Intel to AMD recently. I got a bargain on the 7950x3D at my local hardware store I've been a customer of for a long time. Only paid 479- euros which was just 20 - 30 euros more than the 7800x3D would've cost me. Online you can barely find a 7950x3D for below 649.99 in Germany where I live.
Every single one of the reviews are a joke, the comments about 'why does everyone hate me?' are hilarious - the fact that the ''community'' there that can post are all raving about the 9800x3D and it's being deleted/ignored are amazing. I did a comparison between an Nvidia & Intel ARC GPU and the notes underneath were slagging off AMD! Why?!? It's mad that this website is even allowed to exist anymore, good 'benchmark' for seeing if people know what they're talking about though....
User Benchmark is blatantly biased for Nvidia. All comments on AMD the website themselves apply, always have a stab at AMD. Especially when AMD has a strong product, the website does their best to cut at. Check their comment review at the bottom of Gpu vs’s. Also AMD raster and texture has always been better than Nvidia who is better in lighting. So better picture quality over lighting… possibly why my last Nvidia card seems dull in picture quality, in my opinion.
"Rational" (???) gamers would obviously prefer an Intel 13th or 14th generation chip that fries itself, and would prefer the 1700 Bus, (which is now obsolete, meaning that that, once your 13600k or 14900K chip fries itself, you need a new motherboard). Why on earth would they believe an army of Neanderthal social media accounts, and buy an AM5 motherboard where they can upgrade chips several times during the life of the bus without need for a new motherboard? And of course, per UserBenchmarks, there is no reason to use an AMD cpu, with it's outrageous and hard-to-cool 65-120 Watts of TDP! Any "Rational" gamer would prefer to use a 14900K so that they can use 250-450 watts. I mean, seriously, how are you going to heat a room with only 65 watts? That's barely as much heat as an old light bulb... Haha, this is hysterical stuff, as always. I subscribed.... BTW, are you a Neaderthal? I ask because learned from UserBenchmark reviews that Neaderthals have much more advanced reasoning skills than "rational" gamers, and you seem to be on the ball. ;)
@@Drycleanerguy Me, unfortunately, I'm a "rational" buyer. I foolishly bought a 14700k. It hasn't melted, but the 1700 socket is a dead end, and I know that sooner or later the 14700k will die.
It's pretty hilarious how User benchmark clearly has read all the same info we have and come to a completely different conclusion. 😅 a Radeon GPU must have killed his father. 😂
This UB guy really put 12600k on first place? HOLY FUCK, i have no words for this. Also its funny when intel and novideo fanboys are speaking about % of users using radeon gpus. Intel saying "2%", novidia fanboys blabling about NV having 90% of gpu market (when even intel gpus have 7% and AMD radeon have many more gpus users than intel). Thank you Fabio for the good laugh at the morning. It was very nice video!
My current 6800 is the first AMD card i ever had and i have not regretted the buy ever since. In terms of price/perf. i will surely stay with AMD as things look. CPU wise there has not been anything as exiting on the marked than the AM4 platform for quite a while. Still - it is sad to see that Intel is basically gone at this point and we lost a mayor competitor on the market. This was never good for innovation and prices. Specially since i actually hoped for Intel to get better with their Arc - GPUs to have even more competition on the market. That UserBenchmark writer truely is a sad/funny comedic relieve - still i do not get how people even get to there since there are so many actually reliable info sources out there !
I think FailureShitbench might be on its last legs. Ultra 285k didn't get "full" review until after 9800x3D launch and even then it has like 2 or 3 sentences related to the CPU itself and rest is just the same copy pasta about how bad AMD is. 9800x3D's review is the same copy pasta once again. They're running out of ideas.
Hey Fabio, I’m looking to get a new cpu, I’ve been waiting for 9800x3d, but we know how that’s going. Since 7800x3d is also hella overpriced I’m okay with going lower to something like 7700x to pair up with my 7900xtx, as long as I’m avoiding a cpu bottleneck. Is 7700x a good choice, or maybe a 9700x or 7900x? or is a cheaper 13700k better? I play only in 1440p. Thank you very much for the answer in advance!
It all comes to the FPS targets as explained in my latest video. The 7700X usually performs pretty much on par with the 5800X3D. If you CAN, get a 9800X3D (we have stock here at least), if not, I would advise a cheaper 9700X, still does the job well, then tweak it to remove power limits and enjoy it :D
Can you expand a little more on your statement where you said it's better to choose a more powerful GPU rather than CPU in unbalanced builds? I personally feel the opposite because generally there are more options to lower graphical quality and, in turn, accommodate weaker GPUs. On the other hand, certain CPU heavy tasks like AI logic or physics simulations which are integral to how the game functions usually can't be changed very much.
I lowkey wanna see Intel completely give up on the CPU market just to see Userbenchmarks reaction. Well, it's probably not worth the astronomical prices we'd get from AMD.
Look at the bright side. Each time AMD x3D release, It means a new episode of comedy show is also release to make up our day. Courtesy of USRbenchmark of course.
It truly is baffling how this website has managed to remain alive for all this time. The pretence of rigor and integrity reached its breaking point when the Intel 13th and 14th generation CPUs were touted as not simply strong products, but outright top recommendations; when blatant hatred towards a particular company results in pushing defective CPUs onto consumers there is no saving this site's reputation.
I have an i7 14700K and a Ryzen 7500F; the difference in power draw is massive, while the difference in FPs in the game is just marginal. It is not only about the difference in electricity bill, but also, you have to know, the circuit breaker in my home is more frequent to trip when I use Intel than Ryzen when I use my PC together with my 4-unit AC room on. I also notice that Intel will generate more heat than Ryzen; I live in a tropical country that does not need a heater. But it's just that they are more powerful in productivity, and the price is more reasonable in this segment. But I love both of them for different purposes. I can easily OC Ryzen with a cheap board like the Asrock B650M, while with the B760M I can only OC the RAM. And after update 0x129 microcode, boot time now is longer than Ryzen, taking about 40s while Ryzen takes about 20s.
What gets me is that even Intel has admitted that AMD has surpassed them. CPUPro pretending that AMD is still behind Intel is just comedy at this point.
Ainda uso muito a Intel, mas usei a primeira geração da Ryzen (o 1600) e foi a minha primeira e única experiência com a AMD, e foi espetacular. Faço-te uma pergunta: Para jogos que exige mais do CPU, por exemplo Hearts of Iron IV, Victoria 3, Europa Universalis 4 - jogos que requerem muitos cálculos - Recomendarias um X3D? Pois sinto que este apenas serve para jogos "comuns" e se ligarmos um Unreal engine 4 por exemplo aquilo não vai funcionar muito bem
Userbenchmark is just pure garbage and probably one of the reason why AMD sales are not good due to false reviews and benchmark from this site. Heck they even favor old gen intel CPU's over the new AMD CPU's that are good even on GPU side. Guess userbenchmark is butthurt lol!
7800X3D is my first non-intel cpu (my first build was a Pentium in 1994). I was on the fence with the 12700k/13700k, but the more research i did, the 7800X3D became impossible to ignore. Microcenter had a great mobo/cpu/ram combo, and has been a great system for gaming and general use. If I was doing video editing or something that would see a benefit from more cores, i probably would have looked at some of the other options.
21:58 yoyoyoo shoutout to the community brooos the AMD Jesus îs da Best. Your own language reveal when ? Would love a eng subbed version of a review in native.
You are the Liars defender of the World 😆 And agree with you so much, people need to stop this BS about AMD, 2020+ they are amazing i'll go for fully AMD PCs for a long time now.
@@AncientGameplays Faz anos que deixei de usar!..Aliás já não me lembro que alguns anos atrás alguém falou alguns esquemas deles.Não sei se foi o GN não tenho a certeza.
i am aiming to go full AMD AM5 rig soon . I have my 7900XTX already . I am sorry for intel , hope they stay in the "game" anyway . Obrigado por os teus videos Ancient GamePlays
At first it was somewhat irritating reading user benchmarks reviews, but at this point its just sad, even getting banned from the intels reddit. It is just pure hate speech disguised as a "review", 0% profesionalism and dosnt even know how the tech actually works or what even is it.
7800x3d & 7900 XTX running here.. best decision I made. For almost half the price of an intel/nvidia combo. Been Blue and Green so many years.. now I am totally red team and will go on that way and very happy and without problems at all.
OH I love how he does not talk AT ALL favorably about the 200 Intels, he complains about memory latency in the new design, then dumps on AMD and highlight the PREVIOUS Intel generations ...
This is what high-level mental gymnastics and religious fanaticism looks like. Poor fella seems to live a rough life and we can only pray he gets the help he needs. (If it's really a psy-op then the guys writing that stuff surely has a great sense of humor!)
You are not going to keep Intel down, I guarantee it.. the real problems came for intel when they decided to split cores from P cores and E cores.. that I believe has been a mistake for them.. just push out a few CPU's with just some P cores, like 16P cores, since you are not using hyper threading, just increase the amount of P cores, and do not put on any E cores, if you go for the next gen, 16P cores for the 385, 12 P cores for the 365 and 8 P cores for the 345.. run them in chiplets, with a substrate for high on board cashes.. and increase the amount of PCIE lanes to between 28 to 40 like we use to have with Ivy Bridge.. And experiment a bit with the chiplets and the amount of on board memory to see what really performs.. More and faster memory at every level of cache..
Hence why i use techpowerup, toms hardware, and channels like gn, jays 2 cents, harware unboxed, and zachs tech turf. Mostly unbiased and genuinely accurate and good information.
Your thumbnails are on point lately. They keep making me laugh 🤣 Yeah Userbenchmark is 🗑️ It's better to watch and/or read multiple reviews and then make an informed decision on what to buy. I appreciate y'all in the PC space doing what y'all do 🙏❤️
Yes, Amd marketing is great, so great that has allowed Nvida fanboys to convince people that Amd's drivers are trash, Amd Gpus are an oven, Amd gpus dont work to stream or productivity apps, that you have RT in 60 tier cards to make a "completely new experience", that you should get 12 gb of vram for 800$ (now cost 600 because Jensen is nice to us). Poor guy.
Guys, it seems that after all the Ryzen 7 9800X3D review was out and I didn't show it here (brain malfunctioning lol), but it is more of the same copy paste crap saying that the 9800X3D is only good for canned benchmarks, in cache sensitive scenarios with a 4090, and that the 9800X3D user must expect FPS drops 😂😂
I’m waiting for FrameChasers to come out more claims about “AMDip”
they drew backlash from the tech community with both Techspot and Tom's reporting it. Saying something like x3D cpus are pointless for gaming and it's all AMD marketing BS and that you should just buy an oxidizing Intel i5 instead 😂. Truly sad Google keeps promoting their BS in their search results.
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@@prinzseptim33 I could've sworn the i5s were allegedly immune to the oxidation and blowing up problems.
@@RotaryJunkie they aren’t immune, just less susceptible because they aren’t being driven to as high of voltages and temperatures
Did an AMD CPU murder User Benchmark's parents or something? 😂
Lisa Su personally kicked their dog .
probably they were invest alot of money on Intel's stock years ago and never reach profit until this day
An AMD employee must have slept with UserBenchmark owner's wife.
there are urban legends that AMD snobbed him in providing helpful samples and data at the start of the site and the guy simply kept the grudge going. Only thing that kept intel afloat more than necessary was their marketing. Imho they should have been dumped when they started with new mobo each generation, it's a completely wasteful and anti consumer approach
@@X_irtz At this level of hate it was probably the whole company.
Because of Userbenchmark I replaced my 7800X3D with a Core2Duo E4300. Wonderful, I have no stutters at all anymore because I get 1 fps per year now so the image is perfectly stabile.
You did well!
haha, my old computer had that CPU
You've made the best decision of your life friend, welcome back to the winning team!
In camp blue, dual and quad cores are as good as they've ever been, just like in the highly refined 14nm days!
A wise decision, indeed. Who needs more than 2 cores anyway
I upgraded from 16GB DDR4 CL16 to 2GB DDR3 CL9, because latency is the only thing that matters, according to Userbenchmark! Now I never get frame drops in AAA games (because the games won't launch, but you don't need to worry about that). Thanks, Userbenchmark!
If you ever feel like you've done the dumbest shit ever, just go to UserBenchmark, read a random AMD review, and you'll feel like Einstein.
For a second I thought you wrote "Eipstein" haha
Before Ryzen 3000, their reviews were 90% accurate and unbiased
Nothing compared to the crud spread around by AMD fan-twerps living in mummy's basement with their sister
@tilapiadave3234 lmfao. Show us on the doll where amd touched you.
@@tilapiadave3234 sounds like someone with a chapped ass because they got stuck with an unstable intel processor.
"AMD CPUs are faster but speed doesn't matter most of the time so buy intel CPUs" this guy man
This is old logic 2017 Athlon 60% 2008 core to quad same core count went up to 4.2 GHz that is right this logic only applies to super old processors 4.2 GHz when the Intel i7 6 gen Will outperform at 1.5ghz
I have the last Athlon chip generation in a laptop I swear a android phone from the same year as it is faster that's a flagship phone
The funny thing is, the consumer grade Intel CPUs with lots of weaker cores are actually better in productivity and server workloads, but they keep destroying themselves due to Intel and mobo manufacturers pushing them too hard to keep up with AMD's single core top end... So AMD ends up being better in that use case too, just because they're less likely to nuke themselves.
Didn't userbench shit on zen cpus at the start for being slower? 😂 And said intel is better cause speed > anything. 😂😂
Dragons dogma 2: "you have chosen death"
Accusing AMD doing advanced marketing with youtubers is weird because that same youtubers (and probably all reviewer) are bashing Ryzen 9000 series non x3D.
the guy has no sense of anything xD
Don't underestimate conspiracy theorists' willingness to explain away literally anything that appears to contradict their beliefs. I'm sure it's an elaborate scheme, and parts without v-cache are only there to give legitimacy to shills' push for the x3D CPUs. Or something.
Gamers bashing the 9000 series was cringe anyways when the CPUs are not designed for gamers but rather high workload workstations. In fact gamers whining about CPUs is insane anyways because 99% of us don't have a 4090 to even make the CPU an issue in gaming.
@@JeremyBell You can play just as fine on 9600X. WIll handle all games at 60fps for many years.
😂
Going with the AM4 platform back in 2018 was the best gaming PC decision I ever made.
Same, I'm glad I picked Ryzen 5 1400 over the i5 7400 back then, thanks to that I had upgrade options that were not horrible.
İ7 7700 for double the price of a R5 1600 ? Yea no way. Actually it may have been even more that that...
Meanwhile I went with i3-8100 instead of Ryzen 3 1200 and it's been one of the worst desicions I ever made 🤣
I did the same thing in 2023. I think even in 24-25 it would be a good solution
Same! 5800x3d is still a beast. Sure it has its thermals against it. But who cares?
From Mindfactory, AMD is selling 9:1 Intel ratio and top 3 out of the top 10 CPUs are 9800X3D, 5700X3D, 7800X3D.
User benchmark must be absolutely losing it after the 9800x3d just destroyed intel as a company.
At 1080p with 4090 ? 😂
@@TheShmrsh At any resolution and with any gpu
I dont think you understand how cpu review methodology works@TheShmrsh
@@TheShmrsh oh boy. do you even understand how benchmarks work? you use the strongest GPU with low resolution on purpose SO THAT your GPU doesn't bottleneck the CPU because you want to know the max. performance of the CPU 🤣
@@TheShmrsh Found the User Benchmark admin!
Userbenchmarks is most likely connected to some Nvidia viral marketing program. I'm not joking.
you sure?
Really? I hate Radeon because I have fps droop and very unstable fps on RX7800XT, 6900XT and in past 280x. On nVidia zero problems high, smooth and stable fps.
@@RMKry if you have issues with 3 cards, the issue isn't the cards, it's your knowledge man
@@RMKryopposite for me.
@RMKry
You must be doing something wrong my friend. My 7900 XTX absolutely crushes every game.
UserBenchmark has been a kind of meme for years now, but it's always funny to see how, over the years, they continue to repeat the same crap over and over again. Even after AMD is wiping the floor with Intel's best offerings, UserBenchmark never stands down with "cherry-picked benchmarks in 1080p with [insert top performer GPU here]". Thanks Fabio! :D
They have yet to top their 5800X3D review, just seething with hatred in that one
And most of their reviews are not even about what they're reviewing, it's just copy/pasted nonsense.
1080p + flagship GPU benchmarks make a lot of sense for CPU benchmarking. It's the best way to isolate its effects. It's how we know you can get 1500FPS on CS using the ryzen. Standard procedure for years
Bruh, I've used that site a bunch of times and never read the review portion. It's unhinged... the page for my 7800 called buyers "lacking in critical thinking skills" and then ranted about how great they thought the 4070 was.... loool
At least now you know not to use them.
even the stats portion are quite sus because a while back they invented this made-up statistic called "eFPS" that only them can measure and somehow always favor intel
I got myself my first ever AMD based computer last year, and ive had no issues, very happy.
Hi man! What AMD processor you have in your system? I ask this because I am in a small Discord servers of the youtuber The Evil Land and a lifelong AMD user from Ryzen 1000 told me in his own words: "Well, we talked about that I had the 7950X3D and I had random blue screen crashes and so on, I adjusted it and it went wrong anyway. There was no way I could get it to go right and keep the temperature below 95 degrees under load."
I would love to go for a Ryzen 7600 because the difference against the 7600X is little (although more accentuated in productivity) and has excellent consumptions and temperatures. That's why I ask which processor you have because I'm afraid to go for the 7600 and have problems, I do not know if the user I quoted had a bad unit or he did not know how to use his computer (although he told me that he updated 6 times the BIOS and blocked the turbo but his problems continued).
@@jackgreen05i have a 7800x3d ive had no issues and been loving the performance of this processor and before this cpu ive had the 5600x and had no issues with that cpu either.
@@jackgreen05 Sounds like your friend had issues with their cooling, not the cpu itself. They probably forgot to take off the sticker from their cooler or something lol. I have a 7600x with a peerless assasin 120se (installed properly) and it basically never goes above 70c, idles around 40c.
Same, I got mine July of 2023 and I'm so happy with it
Sounds like an inadequate cooler for a Ryzen 9, bad cooler mounting, or maybe he forgot to peel the sticker off the cooler which isn't that hard to do. I've built and sold over 100 PCs in the last year and sometimes I'll get in a rush or something and simply bypass peeling the sticker on the cooler on accident, until I see the temps and fan speeds immediately jump. I always feel so stupid because of the experience I have now, but it can happen to anyone.
Dear AMD... Please sue UserBenchmark, then use the money you get from suing UserBenchmark to offset your pricing of next gen product so more people will love you more! 💌
Suing for what?
@@iamspencerxfake PR ruining
а я бы вообще так захкйтил их после этого что бы они прекратили свою деятельность. откровенно ведь врут
@@iamspencerx Defamation?
@@iamspencerx For all the bullshit they constantly spew out.
the first time i read a userbenchmark review i thought "it seems unprofessional" but i didn't know enough to realize this site is 100% 🐂💩
Same. I never bothered to read the write-ups for the same reason. But it turns out the rest of the content isn't so great either. I stopped looking at that site altogether.
Them calling the 13600KF the best value CPU is actually hilarious
it's the best value intel cpu for sure! but that's not saying much when almost everything amd has is better value 😭
@@thomaslayman9487 Lmao false af, for 210$ or so rn you can get 13600KF. Ryzen 7700 performs worse in productivity slightly better in gaming and cost like 60$ more.
For gaming alone 7600 is much better value as it is cheaper, has an iGPU and includes cooler in the box but for gaming+productivity 13600K and KF are great value provided you can use all those cores. in fact, AMD has been ignoring budget markets for quite a while now, ryzen 3s are completely dead and lower end R5s like 7500 haven't been released ( worldwide)
for higher end stuff AMD is better value, especially in gaming
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat as a gaming CPU, i'd still take 170€ 5700X3D over the intel, since i can slot it in existing AM4 platforms and it STILL performs good compared to modern components. It beats out the intel 13600 and even 14600 quite easily. Especially now when intel was forced to down-tune the CPUs so they wouldnt kill themselves.
For production, cheapest alternative that gets very close is 5900x (220€). I bought my at launch for 500€ and it is still kicking ass. What beats 13600kf is 5950x (280€). Both are EXTREMELY efficient production cpus.
What I absolutely love is that we have choices. Even with intel, at this price-point, you can't really go wrong.
But current gen, if money isn't that big of an issue, AMD all the way.
@@rohesilmnelohe I like the idea of AMD replacing 4 core Ryzen 3 parts with AM4 parts, giving the budget builder what they actually deserve. A 5950XT/5950X3D both priced at $399, one for Productivity and one for Gaming. Endgame AM4, it would be beautiful.
...until you realize it's a DEAD platform xdd
From Mindfactory, AMD is selling 9:1 Intel ratio and top 3 out of the top 10 CPUs are 9800X3D, 5700X3D, 7800X3D.
i love how i decided to go back to the "gpu bottleneck" website, and it says a 7800x3d and 9800x3d is bottlenecking a 7800xt lol
😂😂
At 240p it does
I have 7500f and 7800xt and I see no bottlenecks at up to 170 Hz (limit of my monitor) at 1440p.
@@DevashishGulati yea im 1440p with 7800x3d+7800xt, no issues at all
Secretly this has to be like an old ATI employee who got shafted during the acquisition.
Old ATI employee whose slanted for promotion, then somehow shafted during acquisition lmao
I wanted to see them saying "we recomend the i5-13600k over the 9800x3d because the 9800x3d is too fast that there is no reason to get"
it was almost there xD
I'm actually tired of telling people close to me to not use UssrBench for anything. Amd should sue them, we should boycott them more, this is beyond pathetic.
Call Userbenchmark whatever (and with reason), but their SEO is top notch. Their website always shows up on the top searches.
It should be called USSRbenchmark. In soviet russia you couldnt say the truth or you’d die, so nobody said anything truthful to their military instructors. They would rather people die on planes than say something about a mistake made in the design
The sad thing about UserBenchmark is that it could be a decent "30 second search" tool to get a quick "feel" for the products, kinda like Metacritic - not the whole picture but a quick decent check.
I remember like 10+ y ago finding the site and putting CPUs side-by-side trying to make a purchasing decision. I was still learning about the PC space then. Thankfully, I never read their reviews and never got influenced by them, and over the years I managed to find the best review and tech sites and RUclipsrs - of which Ancient Gameplays is a part of.
I honestly don't understand how such insanity can exist in this space, where there are actual quantitative tests you can do to compare performance between different components such as CPUs, GPUs, RAM, etc - it's a much more objective space in the testing side of things, than subjective.
But the kind of unhinged writing from UserBenchmark is completely bewildering, and also some of their metrics like "number of cores" or "age" or "consumer sentiment" that go into the score....
@@Cinetyk true....
They also complteely nerfed the value of 5th and higher cores on CPUs until intel released mainstream parts with more than 4. they legitimately weighed only the first 4 cores in the scoring and pretty much ignored the performance any higher core count was giving.
It's 2024 and people still believe UserBenchmarks???? 😂😂😂😂
Sadly yes and I met someone irl who believes in them.
@@nikolotobg So have I and I totally roasted them for trusting LoserBenchmark.
The AMD marketing in his mind is what AMDs marketing team wish they were
if AMD marketing team is even a tenth the team in userbenchmark reviewer's mind Intel would've ceased to exist in public consciousness
I don't understand to this day how that website still not getting removed from the internet
One of the if not THE BEST TECH CHANNELS ON YT, no bs greetings from italy Fabio.
Thank you! Big hug haha
Agreed. Fabio is really really good.
Yeah but he buys stuff from ali express.
Might be the only place you can still score a 5800X3D. 😁
Im still satisfied with my 5800x3d, maybe next year I'll upgrade to 9800x3d.
And you do well, GPU first
@AncientGameplays 7900 xt, probably gonna hold that for a while
I'm going to sit on mine for a long while. Maybe I'll upgrade the GPU next year or something.
I have the 5800X3D and a 7900XT. As my 4K TV can only output at 60hz, I feel as though my setup should be good for a while yet. That is when I'm not activating ray-tracing. Only then do I want to upgrade the GPU to nVidia. So I try not to. I'm not sure RDNA4 GPUs will have caught up with their RT performance, when they are released, but we shall see.
@mrpositronia ray-tracing isn't really worth it imo.
I upgraded after a years of using the GTX 1060 3Gb to the RTX 2070 Super for a couple months after it died.
2 months ago I switched to AMD and got myself the RX 6800 and I'm in love with it and AMD in general.
I'll never go back to NVIDIA and their criminal prices.
LMFAO..... My XFX 7900XT ($650 plus $80 in Amazon rewards) in Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p with 270+ mods, LUT, Reshade, high/max settings, path tracing with FSR 3.1 or XeSS I get 75+ fps with my 5700X3D $190. I upgraded from R7 1700 $200 and GTX 1080 $400 on a X470 $190, same platform over 8 years upgrade from a sold 1080/1440p 60+ fps to 1440/4k 60+fps with minimal spending. I suggest everyone to research everywhere for unbiased reviews, ask questions, and know your targets, is it high frames, smooth and beautiful, longevity and upgradability? This is why PC is master race is king.
Exactly, always search more
Absolutely crazy what UserBenchmarks notes about AMD products
without AMD on the market we will be doomed, they are fighting two sides at the same time and beating by far one side and the other one giving a good battle. CPU / GPU market, they bring so much on the table, amd are the best
Fr, it's crazy to me that Nvidia is worth 10x more than amd
Thank you AMD for my 5800X3D and 7900XTX OC Sapphire I love my PC :)
@@nischay4760 when you steal everything good from the competition then buy them out to shut them down, things happen when companies are allowed to behave with such impunity and morons ignore when the competition brings a better product because it's not nVidia so it must not be good cause nVidia is the "way it's meant to be played" if ever there was a more monopolistic and shady marketing strategy I've never seen it, paying game makers to overuse features that do little to nothing for visuals just to hinder performance on AMD for literal decades and then don't even update that crutch after they get 3Dmark to use it in their tests giving them artificially boosted physics/combine/total scores in the tests.
Fabio, my man! Thanks for bringing more awareness about UB's ridiculous and misleading bias towards AMD CPU's. This information is especially important for those new and returning PC gamers.
Yeah, and I just wanted to give some info alongside some laughs
people who have issues with AMD drivers probably has never heard of Chipset driver update and DDU in their whole life lmao.
они слишком глупы, вы правы. из за этого у них проблема...но не только с амд
AMD GPU driver problems are real although nowhere near as bad as some people say, but still anybody denying them is a fool .
However their chipset drivers and BIOSes have been very stable foor such a long time, I am baffled how some people have the balls to say that intel is more stable especially after raptor eats the lake disaster.
nah brother, on polaris I get instability very frequently. Multiple Windows reinstalls did not help. Sometimes I go for a month without issues and then spend 3 days with constant timeouts.
Gonna buy an 8800XT though once it releases, sick of this card now.
@@NineS5have you considered the card might be dying or is defective?
Besides that I highly recommend for amd gpus certified display port cable or hdmi cable, when connected to a 4k tv or high refresh rate 1440p monitor, it would drop signal a lot with the standard cable for me, switched to (Cable matters) certified cable and no issues since.
@@dagnisnierlins188 Its a probability, its over 6 years old now. I did keep it cool and change its thermal paste frequently over the years too, but hardware still degrades. I believe up till RDNA 1 the drivers were not fully stable yet, but they matured a lot now. My buddy with a 7800xt never got a single issue yet. I'll look into using different cables for now maybe it will help. However an upgrade is long due now haha.
The funny thing is, we wish AMD's marketing was as great as Luserbenchmark makes them out to be. AMD does a horrible job at pricing and marketing their own products. Its a miracle that 9800x3d launched so soon and even below 500$ msrp. If it was the rdna 3 marketing team, the cpu would be over 800$.
UserBenchmark's it is a fanatic for intel cpu and nvidia gpu. He just hate amd.
Not loyal to any particular brand but Athlon gave me great times back on the day and AM4 was the very best thing fone me as a gamer.
The person who owns that site has stock in both companies that aren't AMD.
Being able to be confronted with evidence that you are wrong, understanding that you are wrong and changing your stance is so rare these days. Love your content keep up the good work!
In 3 years, steam sent me 0 surveys on my main rig with a 6950xt, 2 surveys on my media pc with a 1080ti and 2 surveys on my RTX 3070 laptop. So those surveys should be taken with some salt.
after using my pc for 3 years i just got like the last 1 , thoose before didn't reach me, so that Amd not showing up makes complete sense. + People like to stomp on Amd but if it where not them the xbox/ ps5 did cost 1k+ and the steam deck would not exist. sooo ehh
@nsreturn1365 very true. Hopefully AMD can bring us some better GPU competition too!!
Surely AMD has a valid case to sue for misinformation at this point, they aren't even hiding how delusional and wrong they are. Literally a case of purposeful brand defamation, and such a large % of those who use the site aren't aware of it so it's definitely hurting their brand. Something has to be done.
nobody uses the site
That would just make people think that whoever writing these reviews is on to something. I'm sure amd is not worried about this random nobody when there are plenty of unbiased benchmarks showing the truth.
@@iamspencerxUnfortunately, you would be surprised how many people use the site. It appears first on Google when comparing CPU's or GPU's. The website is nicely formatted in a way that's easy to read.
For a person new to comparing CPU's or GPU's, this is likely going to be their first source of information. As long as they don't read reviews, they will end up trusting this information.
@@iamspencerx A LOT of people use it, type in any cpu or gpu like for example "4070 vs 4080" or "7800x3d vs 9800x3d" and Userbenchmark is always a top option, which indicates it has the highest traffic.
I bet they're losing their fuckin minds now that AMD is seriously eating Intel's lunch. They are not ok.
hahahah
This guy is coping so, so hard. Now that AMD is the unquestioned leader in gaming CPUs his commentary is more unhinged than ever. It was bad enough when the comparison was close but now he’s completely deranged.
intel fanboys coping, hard.
im almost positive the page owner just uses AI to write the reviews at this point. lmao. its way too similar to every other amd review on UBM..... the 9800x3d literally poops on every other cpu on earth in gaming. dude got hurt really bad in the past and cant let it go... im starting to think its run by 1 guy in his early 20s. its literally like a troll reddit sub. delusion everywhere
He hates MCM chips haha
He just copy pastes the same review, then swaps out a few CPU or GPU names. Pull up a 1700x, 2700x, 3700x, 5800x3d, and so on, each review is basically exactly the same.
AMD GPU reviews also look pretty much the same.
I red their article today and nearly bursted in laughter. The part where they were recomending 13600K and 14600K over the 9800X3D was so funny. 🤣🤣
Well done brother. Salute from South Carolina.
Salute!
Whenever I have a bad day and in need of a laugh I go read UserBenchmark comparisons.
Yes, thank you very much for pointing their BS out! You rock!
I personally use a 7950x3D paired with a 4090 and couldn't be any happier. I am extremely happy I have switched from Intel to AMD recently. I got a bargain on the 7950x3D at my local hardware store I've been a customer of for a long time. Only paid 479- euros which was just 20 - 30 euros more than the 7800x3D would've cost me. Online you can barely find a 7950x3D for below 649.99 in Germany where I live.
Nice I nabbed one recently as well for 490. Monster CPU. Hoping to pair it with a 5080 when they launch.
I always follow userbenchmark, not for buying parts but for a good laugh
Every single one of the reviews are a joke, the comments about 'why does everyone hate me?' are hilarious - the fact that the ''community'' there that can post are all raving about the 9800x3D and it's being deleted/ignored are amazing.
I did a comparison between an Nvidia & Intel ARC GPU and the notes underneath were slagging off AMD! Why?!? It's mad that this website is even allowed to exist anymore, good 'benchmark' for seeing if people know what they're talking about though....
User Benchmark is blatantly biased for Nvidia. All comments on AMD the website themselves apply, always have a stab at AMD. Especially when AMD has a strong product, the website does their best to cut at. Check their comment review at the bottom of Gpu vs’s.
Also AMD raster and texture has always been better than Nvidia who is better in lighting. So better picture quality over lighting… possibly why my last Nvidia card seems dull in picture quality, in my opinion.
"Rational" (???) gamers would obviously prefer an Intel 13th or 14th generation chip that fries itself, and would prefer the 1700 Bus, (which is now obsolete, meaning that that, once your 13600k or 14900K chip fries itself, you need a new motherboard). Why on earth would they believe an army of Neanderthal social media accounts, and buy an AM5 motherboard where they can upgrade chips several times during the life of the bus without need for a new motherboard? And of course, per UserBenchmarks, there is no reason to use an AMD cpu, with it's outrageous and hard-to-cool 65-120 Watts of TDP! Any "Rational" gamer would prefer to use a 14900K so that they can use 250-450 watts. I mean, seriously, how are you going to heat a room with only 65 watts? That's barely as much heat as an old light bulb...
Haha, this is hysterical stuff, as always. I subscribed.... BTW, are you a Neaderthal? I ask because learned from UserBenchmark reviews that Neaderthals have much more advanced reasoning skills than "rational" gamers, and you seem to be on the ball. ;)
I'm a Neaderthal. I'm not rational, so I have and AMD, not a chip on an obsolete bus, and not using a chip that burns itself up. ;)
@@Drycleanerguy Me, unfortunately, I'm a "rational" buyer. I foolishly bought a 14700k. It hasn't melted, but the 1700 socket is a dead end, and I know that sooner or later the 14700k will die.
You crazy ? 13th and 14th intel Gen chip is absolutely king.
You can make barbeque on it 🤣
@@pakarpintu4917 Well, it does keep my desk nice and warm all winter. ;)
@@pakarpintu4917 ;)
It's pretty hilarious how User benchmark clearly has read all the same info we have and come to a completely different conclusion. 😅 a Radeon GPU must have killed his father. 😂
most problems are due to RAM instability. Unfortunately synthetic tests can't always detect it. RAM may pass all tests but crash in games
True!
This UB guy really put 12600k on first place? HOLY FUCK, i have no words for this. Also its funny when intel and novideo fanboys are speaking about % of users using radeon gpus. Intel saying "2%", novidia fanboys blabling about NV having 90% of gpu market (when even intel gpus have 7% and AMD radeon have many more gpus users than intel). Thank you Fabio for the good laugh at the morning. It was very nice video!
My current 6800 is the first AMD card i ever had and i have not regretted the buy ever since. In terms of price/perf. i will surely stay with AMD as things look. CPU wise there has not been anything as exiting on the marked than the AM4 platform for quite a while. Still - it is sad to see that Intel is basically gone at this point and we lost a mayor competitor on the market. This was never good for innovation and prices. Specially since i actually hoped for Intel to get better with their Arc - GPUs to have even more competition on the market. That UserBenchmark writer truely is a sad/funny comedic relieve - still i do not get how people even get to there since there are so many actually reliable info sources out there !
They pay google to show up on top anytime anyone searches X vs X in CPU or GPU related searches.
Thx again Fabio ❤ keep on rocking my Friend 😂😊
I'm glad somebody else noticed this and pointed it out.
Noted it in a comment on another video how insane the remarks were on the AMD processors.
I think FailureShitbench might be on its last legs. Ultra 285k didn't get "full" review until after 9800x3D launch and even then it has like 2 or 3 sentences related to the CPU itself and rest is just the same copy pasta about how bad AMD is. 9800x3D's review is the same copy pasta once again. They're running out of ideas.
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 true
Hey Fabio, I’m looking to get a new cpu, I’ve been waiting for 9800x3d, but we know how that’s going. Since 7800x3d is also hella overpriced I’m okay with going lower to something like 7700x to pair up with my 7900xtx, as long as I’m avoiding a cpu bottleneck. Is 7700x a good choice, or maybe a 9700x or 7900x? or is a cheaper 13700k better? I play only in 1440p. Thank you very much for the answer in advance!
It all comes to the FPS targets as explained in my latest video. The 7700X usually performs pretty much on par with the 5800X3D.
If you CAN, get a 9800X3D (we have stock here at least), if not, I would advise a cheaper 9700X, still does the job well, then tweak it to remove power limits and enjoy it :D
@@AncientGameplays Thank you for the advice!
Can you expand a little more on your statement where you said it's better to choose a more powerful GPU rather than CPU in unbalanced builds? I personally feel the opposite because generally there are more options to lower graphical quality and, in turn, accommodate weaker GPUs. On the other hand, certain CPU heavy tasks like AI logic or physics simulations which are integral to how the game functions usually can't be changed very much.
I said it is better to do that UNLESS you have a really unbalanced build
When 9800X3d first launch a few days back I told my friend those guys at Userbenchmark are gonna go mental, this is going to be fun.
I lowkey wanna see Intel completely give up on the CPU market just to see Userbenchmarks reaction. Well, it's probably not worth the astronomical prices we'd get from AMD.
Look at the bright side. Each time AMD x3D release, It means a new episode of comedy show is also release to make up our day.
Courtesy of USRbenchmark of course.
At this point, UserBenchmark should be sued for defamation.
It truly is baffling how this website has managed to remain alive for all this time. The pretence of rigor and integrity reached its breaking point when the Intel 13th and 14th generation CPUs were touted as not simply strong products, but outright top recommendations; when blatant hatred towards a particular company results in pushing defective CPUs onto consumers there is no saving this site's reputation.
At this point it's like nvidia/intel are paying for them to do it lol
I have an i7 14700K and a Ryzen 7500F; the difference in power draw is massive, while the difference in FPs in the game is just marginal. It is not only about the difference in electricity bill, but also, you have to know, the circuit breaker in my home is more frequent to trip when I use Intel than Ryzen when I use my PC together with my 4-unit AC room on.
I also notice that Intel will generate more heat than Ryzen; I live in a tropical country that does not need a heater. But it's just that they are more powerful in productivity, and the price is more reasonable in this segment. But I love both of them for different purposes.
I can easily OC Ryzen with a cheap board like the Asrock B650M, while with the B760M I can only OC the RAM. And after update 0x129 microcode, boot time now is longer than Ryzen, taking about 40s while Ryzen takes about 20s.
What gets me is that even Intel has admitted that AMD has surpassed them. CPUPro pretending that AMD is still behind Intel is just comedy at this point.
amd has hefty cooling requirements? meanwhile intel melts as the 420mm aio isn't sufficient.
You know it's bad when userfailmark is banned from even the Intel subreddit.
Ainda uso muito a Intel, mas usei a primeira geração da Ryzen (o 1600) e foi a minha primeira e única experiência com a AMD, e foi espetacular.
Faço-te uma pergunta: Para jogos que exige mais do CPU, por exemplo Hearts of Iron IV, Victoria 3, Europa Universalis 4 - jogos que requerem muitos cálculos - Recomendarias um X3D?
Pois sinto que este apenas serve para jogos "comuns" e se ligarmos um Unreal engine 4 por exemplo aquilo não vai funcionar muito bem
Qualquer jogo que não use um motor de jogo de 1950 é bem melhor nos x3d. E mesmo sem a cache a ser usada, a geração 9000 é bastante boa
Userbenchmark is just pure garbage and probably one of the reason why AMD sales are not good due to false reviews and benchmark from this site. Heck they even favor old gen intel CPU's over the new AMD CPU's that are good even on GPU side. Guess userbenchmark is butthurt lol!
UB: "Since we moved to multi-core processor with the Core 2, everything went downhill! heck even with the hyper-threaded P4!"
so they go from ignorant to stupid to lier, then disrespectful to want to be sued for defamation
it is a nice place then
I genuinely don't understand why AMD doesn't go after that site for slander at this point.
7800X3D is my first non-intel cpu (my first build was a Pentium in 1994). I was on the fence with the 12700k/13700k, but the more research i did, the 7800X3D became impossible to ignore. Microcenter had a great mobo/cpu/ram combo, and has been a great system for gaming and general use. If I was doing video editing or something that would see a benefit from more cores, i probably would have looked at some of the other options.
You have things like the 7950x3d as well
the used cars argument aged so great regarding the fact intel's 13. & 14. gens were kinda suicidal ^^'
21:58 yoyoyoo shoutout to the community brooos the AMD Jesus îs da Best.
Your own language reveal when ? Would love a eng subbed version of a review in native.
You are the Liars defender of the World 😆 And agree with you so much, people need to stop this BS about AMD, 2020+ they are amazing i'll go for fully AMD PCs for a long time now.
What are some good alternatives to UserBenchmark,
I'd like to know a fair alternative that does not play any side
As I said, there are several numeral good channels you can look into
This site is the WORST on the market...people that use it deserved get screw!
This site is the closest to a "legal scam" that we have here
@@AncientGameplays Faz anos que deixei de usar!..Aliás já não me lembro que alguns anos atrás alguém falou alguns esquemas deles.Não sei se foi o GN não tenho a certeza.
@@AncientGameplays I tried to report them for Scam/Fraud, too bad Google doesn't have an option LOL
The sad thing is many casuals will be fooled because it comes up high in the search results rather than checking proper reviews on youtube
@@sbrader97 "proper" reviews on youtube lmao, NO one with a 4090 will game on 1080p.
Even my sponsor skipper doesn't skip the sponsor part of your videos😂
Hahaha 💪💪
How has Amd not sued userbenchmark yet for defamation? Is it because the owner is unknown or does amd just not care about the website?
i am aiming to go full AMD AM5 rig soon . I have my 7900XTX already . I am sorry for intel , hope they stay in the "game" anyway . Obrigado por os teus videos Ancient GamePlays
That's exactly why, average users don't paint a clear picture, just look up at Professional reviewers, such as like Fabio!
At first it was somewhat irritating reading user benchmarks reviews, but at this point its just sad, even getting banned from the intels reddit. It is just pure hate speech disguised as a "review", 0% profesionalism and dosnt even know how the tech actually works or what even is it.
There needs to be a replica website of userbenchmark but actually good and not hating on us AMD-neanderthals.
It should instead be a satire site that hates on Intel using the same absurd arguments.
I believe at this point even Intel would think UserBenchmark is mocking them
😂
Sometimes I tell myself that this is some elaborate, multiyear troll. No one is this delusional.
I hope not
7800x3d & 7900 XTX running here.. best decision I made. For almost half the price of an intel/nvidia combo. Been Blue and Green so many years.. now I am totally red team and will go on that way and very happy and without problems at all.
OH I love how he does not talk AT ALL favorably about the 200 Intels, he complains about memory latency in the new design, then dumps on AMD and highlight the PREVIOUS Intel generations ...
crazy uh?
As 2kliksphilip once said: "User Benchmark is the April fool's joke that never ends"
This is what high-level mental gymnastics and religious fanaticism looks like. Poor fella seems to live a rough life and we can only pray he gets the help he needs.
(If it's really a psy-op then the guys writing that stuff surely has a great sense of humor!)
You are not going to keep Intel down, I guarantee it.. the real problems came for intel when they decided to split cores from P cores and E cores.. that I believe has been a mistake for them.. just push out a few CPU's with just some P cores, like 16P cores, since you are not using hyper threading, just increase the amount of P cores, and do not put on any E cores, if you go for the next gen, 16P cores for the 385, 12 P cores for the 365 and 8 P cores for the 345.. run them in chiplets, with a substrate for high on board cashes.. and increase the amount of PCIE lanes to between 28 to 40 like we use to have with Ivy Bridge.. And experiment a bit with the chiplets and the amount of on board memory to see what really performs.. More and faster memory at every level of cache..
The first time I saw UserBenchMark I genuinely thought the site was a satire.
3:04 literally my first pc was built with Intel cpu because everyone said amd sux and now here am I.. With an obsolete mb + cpu which sucks ass
yeah....
I personally love UB reviews. Not because they are true or any kind of accurate or based in reality but because they are hilarious to read.
Hence why i use techpowerup, toms hardware, and channels like gn, jays 2 cents, harware unboxed, and zachs tech turf. Mostly unbiased and genuinely accurate and good information.
Your thumbnails are on point lately. They keep making me laugh 🤣
Yeah Userbenchmark is 🗑️
It's better to watch and/or read multiple reviews and then make an informed decision on what to buy. I appreciate y'all in the PC space doing what y'all do 🙏❤️
Yes, Amd marketing is great, so great that has allowed Nvida fanboys to convince people that Amd's drivers are trash, Amd Gpus are an oven, Amd gpus dont work to stream or productivity apps, that you have RT in 60 tier cards to make a "completely new experience", that you should get 12 gb of vram for 800$ (now cost 600 because Jensen is nice to us).
Poor guy.
That freaking website has always been like that. Hahahaha