Internist and Gastroenterologist here. Kayexalate is a standard drug given to treat hyperkalemia. The physician taking care of the patient did everything right and gave the appropriate drugs (including kay-exlate). There was no need for informed consent (given how small the risk of bowel necrosis associated with this drug). There was no negligence or malpractice here. The patient suffered an unfortunate complication. Hemodialysis is is NOT a safer alternative to kayaexalate and is only considered when all else fails. This lawsuit is a prime example of what is wrong with the practice of medecine. I am 100% certain that if the physician decided to proceed with hemodialsysis (instead of giving kayexlate ) and the patient had an air embolism and died, Miller and Zois would be suing because kayexlate wasn't given first. Shame on you.
I'm not a doctor, but there's always a need for informed consent. I'd imagine that any doctor would want to build trust with their patients, especially because we're in the age of online reviews and, more obviously, doctors can be sued for malpractice. To add, regardless of the rarity of side effects, they should be discussed because, no matter what, those side effects are still possible. If a patient starts experiencing symptoms without knowing it could be related to their treatment, they might dismiss it as being a result of something else instead of contacting their doctor. Plus, it's literally illegal not to obtain informed consent unless the circumstances don't allow the patient to provide it.
Impressive preparation and control by the attorney. This expert seems very much the advocate. Answers questions he wasn't asked, always to pump up the defense. Apparently the jury did not find him convincing.
Experts are nonsense. As the saying goes, "he who pays the piper calls the tune". An expert isn't go to say anything that goes against the one who pays their checks.
And he’s doing it because he empathizes something that could have easily happened to him. Could have done everything in his life the same way and one patient had a strange 1/100000 condition that reacts to a medication differently and he could have been axed. A perfect world doesn’t exist even if you do all the right things at the right time.
Lokelma is very commonly given, in addition to Kayexelate, for hyperkalemia almost everyday in the hospital. Scheduling doses of both or either of these drugs helps reduces effects of hyperkalemia abnormalities. Ischemic colitis is EXTREMELY rare side of this medication. If he was already hypotensive, intermittent hemodialysis would have likely only worsened ischemic injury or made him tenuous. I do not believe you can chalk the ischemic bowel to just the Kayexelate. Very poor outcome for this trial - rather shocked. Please come walk around any medical ward and you will see why this is a ridiculous law suit.
So essentially he’s on the far margins and the people suing him are expecting him to be omnipotent to be able to correctly treat him? Imagine if every 1000 years there’s somebody who just has a strange combination of genetics that causes them to die when they take Advil the first time. Advil is now dangerous and the company (and trust me I’m the last person to defend big business) should be sued? This is literally just hindsight. I bet whatever doctor on the plaintiff side if in the same situation would also use the correct treatment for the given conditions and symptoms and the patient would have died. So dumb.
You don't have to be a doctor to be a lawyer, just as you don't have to be a mechanic to sue a car shop who performed a tire change and place only one nut on the wheel.. causing the car to later crash and kill it's occupant's.. boom !!!!
Geez they forgot to mention that pt refused dialysis that morning and refused for his lab that were ordered to be done on him. refusing dialysis resulted in his potassium going up which lead to his heart arrhythmia which required the administration of kayexalate. If he had allowed his lab to be done early that morning- it might be possible that drs would have caught condition (High postassium level) sooner. in my opinion the provider did nothing wrong.
@@SS-xm7di and it was handed properly since dialysis would have taken too long to treat his very severe heart arrhythmia and irregular heart frequency.. It's something that has to be treated with medications and iv fluids right then and there.
I am going to write to your office. May I get your address? The Hospital, the Rehab facility, and the Doctor who gave treatment after Rehab have all refused to give the essential Documents but do provide some useless documents. I am now going to ask the National Institute of Justice. to help me. As you know NIJ has a law that they must provide all the documents. Some documents have been altered etc. I think it's a simpler case than this one.@@Millerandzois
Keep peddling the lies....Healthcare is expensive because we have big pharma acting like a drug dealer on the street having you come back for more instead of using our tax dollars to research for CURES! Meanwhile, Big pharma also has a hand in the food that we eat by putting certian chemicals that make us sick...its big business, at least these guys are catching them at their own game.
@@pv8340 If you think this two bit law firm is "catching them (Big Pharma) at their own game", you're delusional. But don't worry, Big Pharma has Risperdal, Clorazil, and Seroquel waiting to treat your delusions.
Don’t understand this comment. My sister was in the hospital stated she wanted to kill herself. The doctor never came in to evaluate her only a nurse. She was discharged and killed herself 5 hours later. Dude I don’t care about insurance cost. I am in the middle of a lawsuit because they killed my loved one so I guess insurance more expensive for you lol! Maybe you would understand when your loved one was pushed out the door. We all pay a lot for insurance get over it! Your comment is rude as fuck!
You might change your mind if your child or any loved one dies from medical malpractice. They must prove their case to a jury which is not an easy task with all of the complicated medical procedures, confusing terms, etc. Insurers lobby and spend big bucks to try and get politicians to cap jury awards. When in reality it is the insurance companies, pharmaceutical corps, huge for-profit hospitals, and not the very few awards for medical malpractice, but they love that you have bought the propaganda.
@@vickicali You assume juries are rational and that these really are cases of medical malpractice. News Flash: Not every case presented in the ER can be correctly diagnosed and successfully treated in time. Doctors are not miracle workers. Ambulance chasers like this firm setup this expectation that if everything doesn't go swimmingly with your medical treatment, let's find somebody to sue.
Certainly, that was their best argument at trial. Sometimes that works and sometimes it does not. Sometimes a jury says who knows what will happen so if you negligently kill someone who may be dying, we are going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he could have survived.
Do you have to point fingers when people are not doing their job right in the negligence should not be tolerated because it was a regulations protocols procedures policies things must be examined Patients and families have every right to be concerned there must be accountability at the end of the day people deserve and patients deserve to get the services or should I say quality services they’re entitled to it is a disgrace when you guys get caught with negligence and then they got the patient suffering the malpractice should not be tolerated and it is painful when they try to keep family members from knowing what is been going on for far too long and I would love ones matter the quality of life the quality of services is very important
The jury did not see his expertise because of his ability to get attention. In addition, his speech is monotone and does not sound very except related to his extra words like uh, um, etc.
To produce a report known as a transcript. So that everybody doesn't have to do what we're doing and watch countless hours of video disposition. Paper or computer transcripts can be cross referenced and one can flip back and forth to compare things instead of trying to skip around a video, or most likely multiple videos, repeatedly. Voice recognition still comes up with crazy stuff. A court reporter would still have to watch the video and the computer generated transcript to correct the mistakes the computer will make.
@@djdedeo0 We do, it still comes up with weird stuff. It's not 100% reliable. Google can't seem to decide between "and" and 'in'. And all sorts of other mistakes and comes up with. Actually, that last sentence, I said, "mistakes *it* comes up with". Wasn't intending to do a live demonstration of speech to text screw ups but, there you go. True story, that's actually what I said. While doing voice to text, to respond. Like I said we could do voice to text but somebody would have to go and check it against the video anyway. And if something went wrong or it stopped capturing data all of a sudden, you might not know it.
I have watched more than 100 hours of depositions in the last many weeks, and I have yet to come up with an explanation for why
No need to explain, my friend. No need.
seek mental healthcare
You are NOT alone James. You wouldn't believe how popular these deposition videos are on this channel.
@@Millerandzois Theyre very interesting
🤣🤣 I just started a few days ago and can't stop. It's becuase they are so darn interesting!
Internist and Gastroenterologist here. Kayexalate is a standard drug given to treat hyperkalemia. The physician taking care of the patient did everything right and gave the appropriate drugs (including kay-exlate). There was no need for informed consent (given how small the risk of bowel necrosis associated with this drug). There was no negligence or malpractice here. The patient suffered an unfortunate complication. Hemodialysis is is NOT a safer alternative to kayaexalate and is only considered when all else fails. This lawsuit is a prime example of what is wrong with the practice of medecine. I am 100% certain that if the physician decided to proceed with hemodialsysis (instead of giving kayexlate ) and the patient had an air embolism and died, Miller and Zois would be suing because kayexlate wasn't given first. Shame on you.
Thank you for telling the direct and sad truth of the situation. People tend to look for blame when they experience trauma/shock.
Completely agree
I'm not a doctor, but there's always a need for informed consent. I'd imagine that any doctor would want to build trust with their patients, especially because we're in the age of online reviews and, more obviously, doctors can be sued for malpractice. To add, regardless of the rarity of side effects, they should be discussed because, no matter what, those side effects are still possible. If a patient starts experiencing symptoms without knowing it could be related to their treatment, they might dismiss it as being a result of something else instead of contacting their doctor. Plus, it's literally illegal not to obtain informed consent unless the circumstances don't allow the patient to provide it.
Does he have a lawyer?!?
And the lawyers that would take up that hypothetical case would be jewish
Impressive preparation and control by the attorney. This expert seems very much the advocate. Answers questions he wasn't asked, always to pump up the defense. Apparently the jury did not find him convincing.
Experts are nonsense. As the saying goes, "he who pays the piper calls the tune". An expert isn't go to say anything that goes against the one who pays their checks.
@@SkinnyCow. That is not always true but true more often than it should be
And I assume you have relevant training to even understand who was in the right or wrong here? Dont kid yourself
And he’s doing it because he empathizes something that could have easily happened to him. Could have done everything in his life the same way and one patient had a strange 1/100000 condition that reacts to a medication differently and he could have been axed. A perfect world doesn’t exist even if you do all the right things at the right time.
Lokelma is very commonly given, in addition to Kayexelate, for hyperkalemia almost everyday in the hospital. Scheduling doses of both or either of these drugs helps reduces effects of hyperkalemia abnormalities. Ischemic colitis is EXTREMELY rare side of this medication. If he was already hypotensive, intermittent hemodialysis would have likely only worsened ischemic injury or made him tenuous. I do not believe you can chalk the ischemic bowel to just the Kayexelate. Very poor outcome for this trial - rather shocked. Please come walk around any medical ward and you will see why this is a ridiculous law suit.
So essentially he’s on the far margins and the people suing him are expecting him to be omnipotent to be able to correctly treat him? Imagine if every 1000 years there’s somebody who just has a strange combination of genetics that causes them to die when they take Advil the first time. Advil is now dangerous and the company (and trust me I’m the last person to defend big business) should be sued? This is literally just hindsight. I bet whatever doctor on the plaintiff side if in the same situation would also use the correct treatment for the given conditions and symptoms and the patient would have died. So dumb.
Also imagine defending lawyers over doctors lmfao
Waiting for a comment to pretend to understand even 1% what was said here
Just looking at this doctor's tie knot would make me seek another doctor for care.
Take it easy, geeze 🚭
The doctor being deposed is not the defendant....
@@jeniferpeace9600 My friends and I thought that was funny,
It’s amazing these lawyers who are not doctors can have an understanding of what’s going on medically.
Simple, they review the questionnaire the night before.
They don't
You don't have to be a doctor to be a lawyer, just as you don't have to be a mechanic to sue a car shop who performed a tire change and place only one nut on the wheel.. causing the car to later crash and kill it's occupant's.. boom !!!!
they don't
thus the title 'LEARNED FRIENDS'
Any guideline/ template resources known to exist that aid in preparing an outline of facts story for these cases execution? Please share with me if so
Appreciate the content
Geez they forgot to mention that pt refused dialysis that morning and refused for his lab that were ordered to be done on him.
refusing dialysis resulted in his potassium going up which lead to his heart arrhythmia which required the administration of kayexalate. If he had allowed his lab to be done early that morning- it might be possible that drs would have caught condition (High postassium level) sooner.
in my opinion the provider did nothing wrong.
We welcome all opinions so thanks for offering yours.
well said
@@SS-xm7di and it was handed properly since dialysis would have taken too long to treat his very severe heart arrhythmia and irregular heart frequency.. It's something that has to be treated with medications and iv fluids right then and there.
@@Millerandzoisthat”s a fact not an opinion
@@hi-literyellow4483 Sorry. It said, "It is my opinion," and then the person gave an opinion. So we thought it was an opinion.
Does Miller & Zois take cases in North Jersey, 5 miles from NYC ?
It depends on the type of case.
I am going to write to your office. May I get your address? The Hospital, the Rehab facility, and the Doctor who gave treatment after Rehab have all refused to give the essential Documents but do provide some useless documents. I am now going to ask the National Institute of Justice. to help me. As you know NIJ has a law that they must provide all the documents. Some documents have been altered etc. I think it's a simpler case than this one.@@Millerandzois
From a healthcare prospective, it seems he acted in a prudent manner given the facts of this case - 1/2 way through. I’ll keep watching
What's a major reason why our healthcare costs are out of control? Miller & Zois, Attorneys at Law. That's why.
Keep peddling the lies....Healthcare is expensive because we have big pharma acting like a drug dealer on the street having you come back for more instead of using our tax dollars to research for CURES! Meanwhile, Big pharma also has a hand in the food that we eat by putting certian chemicals that make us sick...its big business, at least these guys are catching them at their own game.
@@pv8340 If you think this two bit law firm is "catching them (Big Pharma) at their own game", you're delusional. But don't worry, Big Pharma has Risperdal, Clorazil, and Seroquel waiting to treat your delusions.
Don’t understand this comment. My sister was in the hospital stated she wanted to kill herself. The doctor never came in to evaluate her only a nurse. She was discharged and killed herself 5 hours later. Dude I don’t care about insurance cost. I am in the middle of a lawsuit because they killed my loved one so I guess insurance more expensive for you lol! Maybe you would understand when your loved one was pushed out the door. We all pay a lot for insurance get over it! Your comment is rude as fuck!
You might change your mind if your child or any loved one dies from medical malpractice. They must prove their case to a jury which is not an easy task with all of the complicated medical procedures, confusing terms, etc. Insurers lobby and spend big bucks to try and get politicians to cap jury awards. When in reality it is the insurance companies, pharmaceutical corps, huge for-profit hospitals, and not the very few awards for medical malpractice, but they love that you have bought the propaganda.
@@vickicali You assume juries are rational and that these really are cases of medical malpractice. News Flash: Not every case presented in the ER can be correctly diagnosed and successfully treated in time. Doctors are not miracle workers. Ambulance chasers like this firm setup this expectation that if everything doesn't go swimmingly with your medical treatment, let's find somebody to sue.
This was one hideously sick patient. He was doomed from the start.
Certainly, that was their best argument at trial. Sometimes that works and sometimes it does not.
Sometimes a jury says who knows what will happen so if you negligently kill someone who may be dying, we are going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he could have survived.
Do you have to point fingers when people are not doing their job right in the negligence should not be tolerated because it was a regulations protocols procedures policies things must be examined Patients and families have every right to be concerned there must be accountability at the end of the day people deserve and patients deserve to get the services or should I say quality services they’re entitled to it is a disgrace when you guys get caught with negligence and then they got the patient suffering the malpractice should not be tolerated and it is painful when they try to keep family members from knowing what is been going on for far too long and I would love ones matter the quality of life the quality of services is very important
Agree with you one hundred percent 💯
The jury did not see his expertise because of his ability to get attention. In addition, his speech is monotone and does not sound very except related to his extra words like uh, um, etc.
Why the hell are we still using court reporters in 2021?
Money 💰
To produce a report known as a transcript. So that everybody doesn't have to do what we're doing and watch countless hours of video disposition. Paper or computer transcripts can be cross referenced and one can flip back and forth to compare things instead of trying to skip around a video, or most likely multiple videos, repeatedly.
Voice recognition still comes up with crazy stuff. A court reporter would still have to watch the video and the computer generated transcript to correct the mistakes the computer will make.
@@othername1000 so we don't have voice to text technogy?
@@djdedeo0 We do, it still comes up with weird stuff. It's not 100% reliable. Google can't seem to decide between "and" and 'in'. And all sorts of other mistakes and comes up with. Actually, that last sentence, I said, "mistakes *it* comes up with". Wasn't intending to do a live demonstration of speech to text screw ups but, there you go. True story, that's actually what I said. While doing voice to text, to respond.
Like I said we could do voice to text but somebody would have to go and check it against the video anyway. And if something went wrong or it stopped capturing data all of a sudden, you might not know it.
I don’t think his hair is real…
Doctor talking wayyyyy too much
K exalate is torture...massive diarrhea.
Wow 3 minutes in and he's doing so much nervous talking.
federal😊
Super gay
So no necrosis on his bowels?
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