"Why I Stopped Doing Barbell Exercises & You Should Too"
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Are barbells even worth using?
Why I Stopped Doing Barbell Exercises & You Should Too
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Timestamps:
00:00 Greg Says Hello
00:25 Stop Doing Barbell Exercises?
02:00 Fixed Plane of Movement?
03:03 We Are Durable Beasts (usually)
04:40 Variety Helps a Lot!
05:39 Upper Body?
06:37 Most People Aren’t Strong!
07:13 Lower Body?
10:40 Variations
11:30 Age Sometimes Changes Training Perspectives
12:56 Benefits of Barbells
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Seems you do both machines and free weights and dumbbells in videos ,as do I but great video good to hear other perspectives.
How do you useč your strength and power in real life situations?
@@nicholasingratta423 yup, leave no stone unturned. I like barbells but there are lots of ways to train. The book, for example, is only about 30% barbell movements.
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Thank you for the well considered and thoughtful response! Much appreciated
So you aren't a Rippetoe fan?
Hi uncle eugene
respect for open mindedness!
You should’ve also mentioned the fact that the barbells give you the most potential for overload which is extremely useful for lighter smaller people especially when it comes to increasing bone density.
Why are you so smug?
It’s hard to imagine replacing barbells for lower body stuff completely, but for upper body it’s super easy to change everything into dumbbell pressing, and it’s beneficial to do it for strength and to make sure you’re keeping your strength symmetrical. The movement patterns definitely feel better with dumbbells.
Split squats , bulgarian split squats , reverse split squats , various single legged rdl analogs , goblet squats with stupid volume
There are options out there
@@FitFatFit yeah but it's still not like presses where you can directly copy the movements with dumbbells. you have to do more single leg work but those are all good options
@@FitFatFit I agree with this. It may not be for everyone but split squats kill me consistently more than doing like RPE 7 of barbell squats. Though I will barbell squat just to work with strength for higher weight and effort.
I have been watching Eugene's videos for a while now. His content is generally pretty good. While the title of his video was a bit aggressive, this seems to be the way he trains. He doesn't use the barbells that much outside of hinge movements. I really think it all comes down to preference. Personally, I like a mix
Imo unless there’s some condition you have preventing you from doing everything I think you should to reach your full potential. It’s normalized to only do barbell/dumbbell movements and machines but I’d make the argument for those ppl as well, don’t skip weighted calisthenics
He should probably change the damn title then
@@andrewevans6826 you still clicked
@Elvar citation needed
I think a better title for Eugene’s video would have been
“Why I stopped using barbells, and why should consider it”
But admittedly we all know how the RUclips game is, and that’s not as clicky/watchy
I watched the original video and I at least personally feel like “you should consider” switching out barbell movements was the message I received.
yea, people started shitting on him specifically because of the title
Actually laughed out loud in the office when Greg's voice hit my headphones! 🤣
Not a powerlifter but training with a barbell is just fun for me. The basics plus some pullups, dips and accessories is my program and I think it finds a balance between having fun adding weight to the bar on the compounds and staying "aesthetic". It depends on what motivates you to get to the gym - personally I couldn't get fired up to drive to the gym and walk directly to the cable fly machine.
I agree entirely!
The “Greg Says Hello” deserves a 👍🏼
I’m so proud of you , bro. I remember subscribing to you when you had under 1k subs. Keep grinding. 💪🏽
Fair arguments from Eugene and you. One important benefit of having a barbell is limited space/equipment and especially if you're building a home gym. Not everyone can afford to build a commercial gym, especially under the pandemic we're in.
I don't even have space for a barbell man, so I'll stick to my KBs.
I have an old Jane Fonda workout VHS.
I absolutely love how non-dogmatic both of you were. There's multiple ways to get this fitness thing done, and ultimately it boils down to preference and comfort. I can't dumbbell press to save my life because of my shoulder, but it doesn't affect my barbell bench as much, for example. There's room for nuance for both. Excellently done bro 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
One relevant aspect of this that may be useful for other old guys like me: I was getting increasing shoulder pain during (and after) doing any kind of barbell presses. After a lot of trial and error, I happened to try dumbbells - and found that my problem cleared up so I could resume training with full intensity. Maybe having that independent freedom of movement (with the ability to move the hand positions from pronated to neutral, or better control of hand distance and elbow tuck, etc.) over the arc of the movement is the reason, although I can't be sure. But for me, the detailed reasons are academic as I'm good to go now.
It's easier to engage your back with dumbells too. Most people with shoulder pain don't engage their backs while pressing.
It may have been overuse if you weren't rotating variations before pain kicked in
Same here
I here you!... I've been lifting well over 40 years. Agreed, pain= stop doing it. I personally incorporate a mix of barbells and dumbells. I've found that an important thing for us older guys is #1 don't go crazy heavy (8 or more reps), #2 warm up thoroughly. I probably spend 25% of my workout time warming up the joints I'm going to train around.#3 strict form...Sloppy=injury.
Try out weighted push ups
One of the few channels I can pre-Like before I even watch the whole video. Such quality, in-depth reasoning and info. And DAMN are those memes fire.
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The best thing I find about your channel, is its so real, and your lockdown strategy for lifting is similar to mine🤙🏻
Also Eugene definitely chose the title for MORE views. His channel is excellent tho🙌🏻
Great to see your analysis!👏💪
I Friggin love your channel bro 😂 not just for the relatable fitness journey, but also for the Greg doucette memes 😂
I was scared when I saw his title but the video was overall interesting and you completed it very well
thank you very much, great content
The moment i saw eugene made this video i knew geoffrey will do a response. Great video though love and learn a lot from your content
I think that the issue isn't that beginners should do more barbell exercises, but that they should do more compounds in general, be those calisthenics, barbell, dumbell or cable movements. Most newbies screw around with machine isolations way too much. I also agree that the barbell for legs is king, specially from a convenience standpoint. Great video bro
Agreed! Everyone keeps trying to reinvent working out. Our bodies are designed to take heavy loads well when done safely and correctly (i.e. solid setup and techniques.)
Being 6'3 with long arms I avoided the bench for my first few years making various excuses and just did dumbbells and cables. Eventually swallowed my pride and started light on the bench and touched my chest and learned the arch and technique from the elitefts channel. I'm now closing in on 405 bench and wish I'd have started sooner. Similarly barbell curls slightly agitated my wrists early on, but they got stronger and I can now strictly curl 135 for 10 without any joint issues. Point being I think a beginner or someone who avoids the barbell should give it a fair shake and try the movement consistently for some time with a lighter load and focus on technique. Put up with a little pain, but back off if it becomes excessive.
@@jonathand9682 hard to have correct setup when you're forced to follow an arbitrary line like with a barbell
As a dude that lives out in the woods on several acres, I've only got my 7ft 55lb Olympic barbell and 312lbs of plates, so I have to work around the lack of dumbbells (I should get those 2" collar loadable dumbbell handles) or any machines. I get a lot done, but I do wish I had some machines and dumbbells. I also need to buy a few more 45lb plates because I am getting really bored of high rep sets of deadlifts 😄
You can always try suitcase deadlifts.
Oh I was waiting for this.
Good review, it's good to see an Australian youtuber get a little attention aswell.
So it seems most of us are partially agreeing with him. Like I only use a barbell for 2 exercises, which is Romanian deadlifts and bent-over rows.
Most lifters will agree theres nothing like doing Romanian deadlifts with a barbell. I love using the hex bar for exercises, but people shouldn't use them for RDLs because the weight doesn't stay in front of you the whole time which is better for targeting hamstrings.
Also Geoff to give you a heads up, in America at least, most crappy hotel/condo gyms only go up to 60 lb dumbbells. Then you got more advanced commercial gyms going up to 120 lbs. Then you got the hardcore gyms like the one John Meadows always went to with 150 lb dumbbells. Very rarely you will also find gyms going up to 180 lbs or even 200 lbs.
0:14 And deadlifting 335 lbs seems a bit low to be using straps.
IDK from experience but 335 snatch grip dl is probably a lot harder on the grip than conventional
@@cx2900 Ok I rarely do barbell deadlifts, I couldn't tell if he was doing traditional ones
@@cx2900 it is but it's not that unusual to be able to do that without straps. only excuse i could give is if you all ready blasted your grip with chin ups or something else
That shirt snap was god tier editing GVS!
I totally understand people swapping out barbell exercises for alternatives. They are usually very technical and get complicated when heavy. Add in poor leverages or proportions and it can end up not seeming worth it. They do give you the most bang for your buck and provide one hell of a workout though!
If you mean literally, then bodyweight exercises give you infinitely more bang for your buck. If you mean time efficiency, sure, but to many people longevity is much more important than quick gains
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I love that little bit of Greg roast at the beginning of the video.
I like the nuance in both these videos. Because yes, personally I experienced this while doing calisthenics. I started getting some serious joint issues, especially in my elbows. Got serious golfer's and tennis elbow. But all it literally took to solve was switching to dumbbells and gymnastics rings for all my compound exercises. I felt the difference in the first training session. Significantly less discomfort. But I also understand that that's just me and doesn't mean it'll be the case for the next person. I also think the fact that I'm 6 ft 11 doing calisthenics and started when I was obese a few years ago had an impact on my joints for sure.
Wow you are nearly 7ft. Planes must be hell.
I've been consistently lifting for the past 30 years (I'm 67). As a result, my shoulders are pretty messed up. I cannot do any barbell pressing movements, like bench or overhead, using a PRONATED grip without pain. The solution for me has been a Swiss multi-grip bar using a neutral grip. Also, a kneeling chest press or an overhead shoulder press using a landmine attachment is pain-free for me as well. I have gained size since switching to neutral grip pressing movements.
I am a bit in your situation. I have, for example, switched from flat bench bench press to incline bench press, which helps. And neutral grips on many exercises, where applicable, as you suggest.
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Damn 67 and still looking to gain size and strength? If i were you i would focus completely only on health and longevity
@@sentaveliki425 At my age I am happy to maintain what I have. The gains from switching to more shoulder friendly forms of exercise using specialty bar was just a pleasant surprise, not a goal of mine. Strength training and health/longevity are not mutually exclusive. Strength training is important for seniors if they want to stay out of a nursing home.
I have been lifting consistently for about 22 years (I am a lifetime natty however, I can still make a bit of progress if I focus on a particular goal)... I sometimes wish I could go back in time and give my 20 year old self some of the knowledge I have now... there is so much I would do differently! 😁
mh, sounds like you fucked up your shoulders then
Love your coach Greg
Almost at 50k!! Btw. Talking about barbell bench press, I'm gonna try and hit a PR tomorrow hehe
You got this! 💪💪💪
holy shit, this Greg's voice at the start took me off guard, good one))
More great content!
This year I decided to do the bulk of upper body with dumbbells to help correct left-to-right imbalances because they are much more noticeable with DBs. But I still plan to add in some BB movements at least in part because I enjoy those too.
Keep in mind that doing dumbbells for presses doesn’t necessarily fix imbalances, it’s very easy to tilt your body to the side to help your weak arm out, potentially making it even worse than a barbell. Just mind your form
actually barbells are great for imbalances since you can use correct form to fix the imbalance. just go down in weight and do perfect reps and then work your way back up, you'll have fixed the issue by the time you get back to your working weights
@@oblivionpro69 definitely minding the form and stopping when the weaker side breaks down. But this is a good reminder to also take video at times to make sure I'm really minding the form.
@@yoeyyoey8937 not completely avoiding the BB versions, just focusing more on the DB version of certain lifts. But I do need to focus more when doing the BB lifts since I don't easily notice the imbalance until I watch myself on video afterwards. That's where the DB version seem to work better for me because I'm more sensitive to it then as it's happening in real-time.
I’m with Eugene on this one. Barbell benching messes up my elbows and shoulders almost immediately, while dumbbell benching feels amazing and is completely pain free, even with higher volume. I kind of like barbell ohp though
This is not a judgment response. Find a coach who can watch your technique. It makes a difference! Don't give up on barbells yet!
Elbow & shoulder issues from barbell benching generally comes from elbows flaired out too much and not tucked in more, if something is causing you issues for sure isn't a good idea to keep doing it but learning to do it in a different or "better" way which could help the issue is beneficial, i don't agree with neglecting barbell work but better to rotate Barbell, dumbbell, different grips, different inplaments, different styles
@@robbo8074 the issue is more detailed than that. If there are deficits in mobility in supination/pronation of the forearm/wrist, combined with limitations in shoulder IR, the upper and lower arm will never be able to align as easily as with dumbbells or cables. Also, the main function of the pectorals is adduction of the humerus, and you cannot achieve that as much with a barbell.
@@chriswilliams8189 on the contrary, the majority of large individuals lack shoulder internal rotation and mobility at the forearm. Also note, these issues take years to manifest. The issue could take thousands of reps over years to cause inflammation at the elbow joint. If we're looking at something like a skullcrusher, the majority of lifters stop doing that exercise intuitively, or at least with a barbell after many years of training. The reason they experience elbow pain is because of the reasons I mentioned but also because of the inability to truly use the long head (long head tricep favors the scapular plane and shoulder external rotation).
Consider for a moment that perhaps we are taught a traditional way of doing things that is biomechanically inefficient and suboptimal.
@@chriswilliams8189 typical dogmatic lifter. the other commenter is absolutely right, shoulder rotation is a problem for many people who lift for years.
I agree with the ‘locked in’ sentiment The constriction of motion you get from a barbell can actually reduce the chance of a massive injury. You can only deviate so far with a barbell. with dumbbells, and if your ego takes over, you can easily move in very compromising ways and put massive amounts of torque on your joints. IE, pressing with dumbbells and your hands drifting too far away from your chest or drifting too distal or proximal to the cranium. The further you get from your shoulder, outward or up/Down in relation to your spine, the more torque.
Also, the underrated logistical issues of moving heavy dumbells in and out of position can be harmful, especially because people don't usually take much care in heaving the barbells off the floor (say if doing incline DB press and getting the dumbells on/off the floor). The size/shape/total weight of barbells pretty much make it impossible to improperly move it around.
Oh yeah, Setting up a heavy DB lift is an excellent way to snap your shit up
Really quality advice brother. 👍 There’s so much nuance to this topic, & like you said, it depends on many individual factors. While I personally like & do some barbell exercises, I also incorporate dumbbells, cables, & even some machines as appropriate, as they can all complement each other well.
10:13 I think your shorts are about to rip apart bro 😂
Facts. Idk why some people think it has to be one or the other to an extreme😂
@3:18 I was expecting the jibe somewhere in your video lol. I always do :P
8:51 😂😂 omg that's absolutely amazing!
Hey Geoffrey! I have not been following your channel for very long but I love the content you put out. I found you through the channel Natural Hypertrophy. Unfortunately, his channel has been deleted today and he needs as much help as he can get for the sake of his channel's future. Please help him to whatever degree you can!
On it, doing the best I can trying to reach out to RUclips to get it fixed.
@@GVS Thank you so much, you're doing gods work
@@GVS I only just noticed, you did it Geoffrey!! NH is back! I hope you know how much your help is worth to us, much love!
Love the coach impression
Yooooo the Coach Douche part actually has me rolling on the flooooorrr weakkkk😂😂😂
NH's Channel got terminated
The title was definitely the reason I clicked on the video but otherwise, he makes sense to me. Doesn't matter whether it is dumbbell, kettle bell, barbell, so long as you can comfortably push yourself on the exercise.
Very wise my lord
Thanks, I just watched this yesterday and been waiting for someone to react to this :D
Same here ,lol.
Respectfully speaking here, every person I have trained with the Rippetoe low bar squat has grown their quads quite a bit. I think if you get your squat strong with an efficient form, hip drive, your quads will grow. I also have bad squat leverages, but the Rip squat got my squat strong (275x5 to 425x5) and my quads have really grown! I don't think you need to focus on knees forward to grow the quads.
Man your thumbnail had me rolling on the floor 😂😂😂
Wow both of y'all did a good job
Just a simple barbell and one can train every bodypart. Doesn't get better than that
Oh my god! Lmfao! That opening was just fantastic! 😂
That coach Greg impression was awesome
Just dubbed! Although I am proud of it only taking one try to do!
Bro you replied to my comment I am really happy
I just recently started watching your videos last month and I have enjoyed it
keep entertaining and enlightening us
Glad you showed the rings and body weight exercises as a viable substitute Geoff.
Yup, aint giving up my barbell movements anytime soon
Greg has helped me eat MORE because he inspired me to exercise even harder and I’m stronger.
This is my first time watching your videos and your intro made me laugh idk why I’m telling everyone but what ever
I like you videos! Definitely deserved a sub. Road to 100k!
Do barbell for one reason : compare myself to my friends and to the world! No one care how much i can lat pull down. Comparing is fun and my motivation to train.
You're trying to please others and trying to get attention and validation. That's a wrong path to take
Compare dumbell lifts, weighted calisthenics, I mean I love barbells for strength but this is a bad point
@@eyeoftruth4405 not really, i am very much pleasing myself.
@@eyeoftruth4405 Excellent point. Here's a counter-argument -
Competition drives progress. Also it's fun.
@@eyeoftruth4405 Being competitive isn't "trying to please others". It's completely fine to want to be better than everyone else at something; that's the basis (and the entire point) behind *all* competition and sport.
It all comes down to preferences. My current goals are progressive on the Big 3 and I'm having blast doing it. I still do bodybuilding type exercise but don't enjoy doing it so much. But it has to be done 😎
as long as the BBing stuff doesn't interfere with the main lifts. i would also add overhead press to protect the shoulders
@@yoeyyoey8937 yeah I do. Twice a week. First with barbell, second with dumbbells.
GVS was about to go into hyperspace at 5:03
One thing worth noting is that most of their, (Eugene Teo and other professionals) size was not built with these training methods. Muscle maintenance is much easier than muscle building.
Sure, You can build muscle with isolation machine movements, dumbbells, and never touch a barbell, but is it optimal? And is it an option for you?
At the end of the day, REJECT MODERNITY, EMBRACE TRADITION.
It's an option to use/don't use barbells, yes. But why would it be more optimal to build muscle by sticking to barbells? I find no reason why someone wouldn't get the same/better results by sticking to a dumbell option instead of a barbell.
@@lukaposeidon8490 I personally find arguments of DB vs BB to be kind of pointless because using both is better.
In the same manner, barbells + machines is significantly greater than the sum of its parts.
Why stop yourself from using a time-tested, reliable tool if there is no reason to do so and theres more to be gained if it is there than otherwise?
I advocate and utilize barbells, dumbbells, machines, and calisthenics. You can call it a cop out and say “of course if you use everything it will be better than using one thing” but then you have to acknowledge that if you take something out you are accepting a worse version of training.
@@StandStrength Completely agree. I think the whole BB vs DB argument is important because of how overrated the barbell can be. It's seen as the main thing and if you don't include it you are missing out. Sure, might be. But just as you might be missing out if you didn't include some of the other things. I personally have a lot of barbell movements in my training and find that they work great for me. However if BB benching didn't hit my chest as much as DB's do, I would have better results switching it for the DB variation. My main point is that you shouldn't 'avoid' barbells just like you shouldn't avoid dumbells, machines or bodyweight exercises. However if other variations work better for you, I see no reason why you'd miss out if you didn't include barbells at all.
Completely agree with you.
This is the first thing I thought looking at the guy. He looks built for and by Oly lifting or powerlifting, maybe both. The Eleiko setup says serious barbell user.
I 100% agree with eugene. I have always tried to enjoy barbell stuff because people just kept preaching that it's a must, but I personally just enjoy dumbbells and other exercises way more, mostly because of the freedom in movement and adjustment. I don't care so much about pure strength or the amount of weight that i lift. I just wanna have fun and not fuck up my joints while I have it
well he is correct in that you dont NEED barbell movements,personally theres some stuff like chest press i just dont bother using a barbell for bc it frankly just feels like it hurts vs helps.
Most people argue that Bench Press is the reason why barbells are amazing but I would argue that only deadlifts and OHP are the only exercises that you can't replicate with dumbbells and get the same benefits.
I would say the bench press is the worst barbell exercise. Since doing ring pushups and ring work, I've realise that the contraction on the bench during the bench press is awful. no adduction (moving arm across your body?) and straight vertical motion. Ring pushups have exploded my chest more than benching has. However, I do like to bench every now and then to test my absolute strength
Friction on the cables is one thing. But thanks to the ancient Greeks we have a pretty good understanding that the more pulleys there are, and the larger that those pulleys are, the more efficiently you can move the same amount of weight. So when comparing cable machines, you have to factor in the number and size of the pulleys, how far the cable is going from the way to your hand, the friction of the cable against the pulleys, and the friction caused by the stack of weight against whatever is holding it in place.
Free thinking 🙏
Good to have civilized fitness channels that can have a respectful debate without getting butthurt because they disagree.
Bro views are pumpin dang 📈
Yea tickled the algo with this one
i like to think of it as "U Should do Barbell movements , unless it's not suitable for u in any reason" not the other way around that "u shouldn't do barbell movements , unless u it's suitable for u" ..
Cause if it's suitable for u as in (not giving u pain or discomfort , hitting the right muscle , good for your bone structure , etc) ..then u would rate them higher above Dumbbells , machines , cables , bodyweight ..
but that's as the Main movement to focus on , and ofc u can add some variations whether it's Variations of Barbell or something else ...
like having Bench press as main movement .. and Close grip Bench as a variation .. and maybe some assistance or isolations on top ..
Honestly I agree. I use barbells because they’re fun and i love adding plates to the bar. Keeps me coming back to the gym. But are they “suboptimal” for building mass, sure
The moment you said "old man yelling at a trap bar" I immediately thought of Mark Rippletoe, and then the clip suddenly appeared!
here's a quote from the study you've mentioned:
"Our data also do not support the hypothesis that
exercise variations are determinant to muscle mass accretion, as the groups that varied
exercises had similar gains in muscle CSA than the ones that just used a single exercise
(i.e. squat). Thus, the findings of the present study indicate that as long as the training
load is sufficient to activate the protein synthesis machinery, muscle hypertrophy should
occur independently of the changes in exercise throughout the training period."
i should mention though that the hypertrophy was more proportional/homogenous in the exercise variation group.
Hmmm maybe I was thinking of a different one, I heard it on an Iron culture podcast and they mentioned several studies in that part.
@@GVS it does make sense tho.
given that at least one muscle head doesn't even grow at all in exercises such as squats
so when you reach your supposed anabolic capacity of volume per session it would be advisable to spread some love to the heads that don't grow through squats with the help of a different exercise (knee extension for example).
@@JewStudios yes, the rectus doesn't get hit from squats
you can load up way more weight on a barbell so it makes no sense to exclude them from your workouts
I personally wouldn't and don't neglect anything, rotation is key, every time you do a certain exercise but do it slightly different each time, barbell, dumbbell, grip, bands, chains, angles ect you create a different stimulus
Just do what works for you. I prefer kettlebells and bands for overhead pressing. I LOVE doing deadlifts with an olympic bar but prefer squats with two heavy kettlebells or a safety squat bar or a trap bar. I prefer pushups and dips to bench press. I also use rings now and then. I even got a sandbag and do carries or Zercher squats. Really fun and hard!
The guy says the bench press makes your elbows flared out, but here (5:11) you can clearly see that the more you narrow your grip, the more tucked in they are. You can actually adjust it for you like that.
LOL I loved the opening 😂
Getting dumbbells into proper position hurt my shoulders more than barbells!
I never do barbell benchpress only dumbbell. It just bothers my shoulders and is really hard to feel my chest with it. However, when it comes to OHP, I prefer barbell. I think people need to realize that you can build muscle doing "variations" of the big 4 and still build muscle as long as you follow the basic rules of sleep, overload and diet.
PS: you have never put out a bad video in my opinion, do you have plans on maybe getting an home gym like Alphadestiny? would be really cool to see you in there with some nice shots and cool lights lmao
Geoff lives in China - home gym isn't really an oprtion. The walk to and from the gym is worth going outside for.
I'm seeing more gains from ditching the barbell and using machines and volume training. I'm mostly geared towards running and I'm also 40 so all that joint wear and tear is gone.
As soon as I saw the title of his video I thought: I hope Geoffrey will do a video about it
I always think of Barbell, Dumbell, Cables, Machines etc as options. Training for years you need options to keep your interest, if you keep your interest over time you'll see results on almost all proper exercises.
I only use a barbell when doing squats, everything else is done with dumbell, cables, machines and bodyweight. I still get injuries, pains and aches, but I'm not yoda
Yoo that beginning "how friggin dare you!!!" Had me rolling 🤣
Greg and Derek to me were the first guys to get me to understand anything about steroids or PED’s. I still have not used them. My body dysmorphia came from looking at dudes who take steroids who don’t talk about taking steroids and saythey got that big from eating constantly not only does your stomach hurt from eating that much it’s hard to have that much money to eat that much and most people do not need to eat more food the majority of Americans are overweight the majority of people need help losing weight the majority of people are not athletes who need to stack on more muscle.
I don't want to live in a world without barbell exercises 😂
Calisthenics and heavy sandbags works best for me. Squats and lunges with a heavy sandbag over the shoulder has helped me immensely when it comes to moving heavy awkward objects in daily basis
i used to do that but after i switched to barbells it's a night and day difference
Barbells for sure stack the size on better but it was effecting me for my work. The hardest thing in my work is when you have to carry huge heavy awkward objects up the stairs and being strong at back squats and deadlifts didn't carry over to that compared to heavy sandbag work
That dude checking your arse out on RDLs...Freaking epic!
Good and fair video; his video also looked reasonable
Hi Geoff. Don’t know if you’ll read this, but you said in the vid that you struggle with squats because off long femurs. You should look up Zac Talender (he also made o good response vid to this too)as he has great vids on working on the squat pattern / movement. He’s pretty tall and when he started he said he always had issues with squats hitting depth. Zac focuses on Olympic lifting, but might be worth having a look. Up to you of course be he has good info.
Anyway, enjoy your content. Keep it up 👍🏻
Yup have followed him for a while, for a giraffe his lifts are incredible.
nice video
Golden Intro 😅
Also time constraints. Big compounds with barbells are good because they save time. I spend so much time in the gym already. I can’t sub out compounds for isolation work cause I’d never go home
Commented something similar in Teo's video, but I know I have a bit of an unconventional set of circumstances regarding certain compound lifts. Swapped out barbell for DBs for my main horizontal and vertical pulls / pushes out of preference on more freedom of motion/ saw better results. I also found a out I have hernia from birth, so heavy training kinda went out the window in a lot of ways. My main squat is Bulgarian split squats with DBs, main hip hinge is hip thrusts for sets of 6-8. Even my alternative hinge of RDLs I prefer with DBs as they are high rep sets and I enjoy a more neutral grip / more depth (as a shorter guy).
I could easily never train with a barbell for the rest of my days
Completely agree about the DB rdl's. They feel much better and I find I can go deeper with them. However it's very unstable in my case. Maybe because of the specific Dumbells I use. Another thing is that without straps, it's very hard to hold on to dumbells. Might be because of the stability issue but a barbell is much easier to hold for longer periods of time.
An old herniated disc in no way prevents you from lifting heavy objects
@@whwhywhywhywhywhywhy who said anything about an old herniated disk? This is a congenital hernia, a literal birth defect. Herniated disc and hernias are not the same thing.
how do you do a vertical pull with dumbbells? or a barbell for that matter. pullovers?
@@cx2900 yep pullovers, but to clarify I personally use machines and cables for those
Eugene is awesome!
Lmao the Greg doucette sound byte was amazing
10:18 this was me before doing high bar style. I never felt quads doing squats, and since I was doing deadlifts on the same day (thank you stronglifts /s) all I could feel was my lower back getting more and more fatigued.
I started doing heel elevated high bar copying your style, and instantly I felt my quads.
Currently I am only doing barbell exercises, not including weighted pullups
Geoff please get tiktok and stitch some of the popular guys on there. Most of tiktok fitness is good but very on the "optimal" side of things and I'd love to see different perspectives like yours on there
I just go with whatever feels most taxing for the muscles and least taxing for the joints. 🤷♂️ I generally don’t do barbell or machines for upper body. It’s not dogmatic, I just don’t have any strength goals other than progress and dumbbells and cables are just much easier on my joints. I use barbells for deadlifts, but I only have access to them at the gym.
I think another important thing that everyone is forgetting, you can set up a home gym with a couple dumbbells for super cheap and very little space. You don't need to buy fixed weights or complex mechanical dumbbells that influencers are peddling. Buy yourself a professional classic dumbbell set, the ones with spin locks, but make sure they're rated for heavy weight. Then just shop used stores for ten pound weights. My dumbbells are weighted to 200lbs and I have enough ten pound weights to hit 90 right now. This is a lot less painful on my preexisting injuries, takes less space in my house, and I'm still making great gains.
I am surprised at the level of honesty on the Nippard poll...on the Internet, everyone benches 300+ at sub 10% body fat.....