Ranking EVERY Neutral Special Animation in Smash Ultimate
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Neutral specials are often one of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's most important types of moves and a huge part of their characters' kits. The Smash world has plenty of tier lists, discussions, etc. discussing their power, but their animations don't always get the attention they deserve. Today, we fix that by exploring every neutral special animation in Smash and ranking them on a tier list!
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Thanks for watching everyone! This one ended up being a bit of a beast to try and wrangle in, hopefully the time resulted in something fun. Also just a heads up that even as long as the video is, a lot of stuff still got cut (the one that has come up most often in the comments is the charged version of Blurring Blade). I actually did look at essentially every alternate form in the game and excluded some of them in editing if they didn't change my mind at all. In retrospect this isn't as obvious to viewers as it felt to me and in the future I'll probably be a bit more consistent. Let me know what you thought!
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Please make a video that goes in depth into banjos breegal blaster and include the technicality / usages if possible .
What about Cloud's limit Neutral B?
Lol u should use Plucking Tuilps as background song its so good
@@ListlessWither True
I’ve been looking forward for this! I can’t wait until he covers down specials lol
For Steve I would’ve personally considered the fact that the blocks change how they look/sound on some stages, along with the mining noises. It’s a great detail that I think moves it up to A tier
I Agree
bias but yeah its cool
Also the annimation accounts for mining in differents slopes and walls.
Something we don't usually see because the only walls available are the stage itself
@@adv78 Good point! ^^
It's the one and only Odyssey Central! btw you have some of the best youtube content. #DryBonesForSmash
Some stuff that didn’t get mentioned:
- Palutena’s reticle is pulled straight from Kid Icarus Uprising, where it’s your main way of targeting. I only noticed this after playing Uprising, but it’s a fun detail
- I never noticed Charizard drools onto the ground when he holds his mouth open for Flamethrower, gross! I like it!
- The wire frame alt for Little Mac uses a much more retro sound, neat detail
I noticed that Palutena detail when I played SSB4 after playing uprising. Uprising is honestly one of my favorite games of all time.
Actually Bowser and Ridley also drool lava for Bowser’s neutral special and Ridley’s forward smash
I also noticed Chrom's particle effect building up from the base of his sword all the way to it's tip when it's charged, indicating the power of it.
Also mii sword fighters flaming sword thing can be charged
I noticed the drool while watching the vid. Was really wanting it to considerd
I think the main reason Mii Gunner's Gun isn't as animated as the ones from the space animals is because Mii Gunner has many different costumes with very different gun designs, having to add (different) details to all of those would be so much work i can understand why they didn't. This might also be why Charge Blast spawns the projectile so far away from the gun, its to accommodate for the different designs and lengths of the gun in all costumes, it probably looks better on the costumes with longer guns
I was thinking the same thing, but that doesn't justify the positioning being even worse on Kirby.
The Gaster Blaster
The Glaster Baster
The Gaster Blaster.
It does look better on the ones with longer guns, but not all of them... the cowboy suit for example makes it look kind of weird
!TIME STAMPS!
1:01 Kazuya
3:09 ROB
5:21 Fox
6:33 Falco
8:03 Wolf
10:04 Mario
11:53 Luigi
13:03 Doc Mario
14:12 Wario
16:30 Palutena
18:29 Pit
21:09 Dark Pit
22:02 Simon/Richter
23:50 Marth and Female Marth
27:27 Roy
29:02 Chrom
29:51 Ryu and Ken
30:51 Captain Falcon
32:56 Ness
34:14 Lucas
35:26 Pyra
36:20 Mythra
38:57 Squirtle
40:07 Ivysaur
41:08 Charizard
43:02 Bowser
44:08 Yoshi
45:11 Sonic
46:56 Donkey Kong
47:59 Diddy Kong
49:11 K Rool
50:28 Ice Climbers
51:16 Game and Watch
52:33 Snake
53:52 Cloud
55:27 Sephiroth
58:07 Mii Brawler
1:00:57 Mii Swordfighter
1:04:25 Mii Gunner
1:08:13 Samus
1:09:52 Dark Samus
1:10:30 Zero Suit Samus
1:11:47 Ridley
1:12:45 Jigglypuff
1:13:40 Ike
1:15:23 Byleth
1:17:02 Robin
1:19:41 Corrin
1:22:12 Terry
1:23:33 Olimar
1:25:20 Villager/Isabelle
1:27:18 Pikachu
1:27:43 Pichu
1:28:48 Sora
1:30:25 Link
1:31:39 Young Link
1:33:20 Toon Link
1:35:04 Mega Man
1:36:43 Peach
1:37:20 Daisy
1:38:31 Min Min
1:38:52 Steve
1:40:19 Zelda
1:41:42 Sheik
1:43:30 Ganondorf
1:45:30 Greninja
1:46:52 Incineroar
1:48:26 Mewtwo
1:50:31 Lucario
1:54:07 Bayonetta
1:55:33 Little Mac
1:57:32 Wii Fit Trainer
1:59:28 Rosalina and Luma
2:01:18 Inkling
2:02:38 Piranha Plant
2:03:40 Shulk
2:06:50 Pac-Man
2:08:26 Joker
2:09:53 Hero
2:12:13 Banjo and Kazooie
2:13:36 Bowser Jr.
2:15:19 Duck Hunt
2:16:23 Meta Knight
2:18:07 King Dedede
2:19:11 Kirby
you sir, are a level above us mortals
this only has 61 likes WHAT
as a min min main...
For shulk's sword blade vs hand for buster and smash art, my interpretation is that for smash art, he's not powering up the blade itself, just swinging it with more power. Thus higher knockback, and it affects his hands. With buster, he makes the blade itself more deadly, so it does higher damage, but there's nothing different about his swing, so no extra knockback. It's like if you swung a baseball bat. Smash art makes him stronger so he can swing the bat harder, so his hands. Buster art is like attaching spikes to the bat so it does more damage.
It also helps the opponent--Smash is clearly the most threatening Monado Art they have to play around, and having the red glowing on his fists makes it very clear that he's in Smash Art.
I just made this comment but I think you explained it way better,
Also Buster Art in XC directly affects the Monado too, being an special attack that makes it bigger and does a lot of dmg, so buster "buff" is canonically in the sword itself.
Tbh i would prefer if the Speed glow was in his legs while Jump in his feet so they would be all different, would make more sence too, since running fast is much more associated with leg strenght than feet.
This is actually really good explanation that makes a ton of sense, and I never thought of it. Thank you.
This interpretation Is not technically correct. What the mondo does is that it changes the physics and the properties of the universe so he is swing the blade the exact same way in smash art but the the that is changing is the universe itself making it do more knockback and less damage
I'd love to see a ranking of the idle animations. I always loved the amount of character that can be conveyed in the moments where you aren't even playing the game.
I agree that would be great. It's rare to see idles in a game like this where there's rarely a reason to just not be doing something.
Jigglypuff: 😰
@@amaze_z1953 Steve: 😐😑😐
@@ethanhowe768 you're right, S tier
Sonic: ...
2:10:30 It's not just _any_ anime nonsense, it's a Kamehameha, which makes sense as both Hero and Goku are designed by Akira Toriyama.
In other words. It’s THE anime nonsense
Or hadoken
Amogus 👹👺👹👺👹🥵🥵🥵
He couldnt DI properly and is no longer among us 😔✊
Hey MockRock. I don’t know if you know this, but the Hexagonal design of Lucas’ PSI is in reference to how Mother 3 does its PSI attacks. It’s kind of carried over for the two of them.
I also really liked how you pointed out the design of Wolf’s blaster, didn’t realize it has a second hit.
The second hit does a lot for it, I consider it one of the best projectiles in the game.
The melee attack on Wolf's firearm is a lot more obvious in Brawl, because in that game it looked like he was attacking just by pulling out the gun, where it doesn't come across as much in Ultimate.
Fun fact: Wii Fit Trainer's Sun Salutation is unique in that it is the only move in the entire game that deals "Solar" damage, which is an on-hit visual effect similar to fire or lighting attacks, only instead it surrounds the opponent with those little circular lense flares.
You missed the fact that Peach and Daisy's NSpecial animations are subtly different. Peach cowers behind Toad and looks up when it's done to see if it's safe again. Daisy on the other hand just covers her ears and stands back up as if nothing's wrong.
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Wow……that you would give Kirby THIS MUCH love at the end wasn’t what I expected. Your amazing for reviewing EVERY FRICKING ability
2:19:12
Gosh he really went overboard
Three hours. Wow.
Also I do agree that R.O.B.'s base level charge is more satisfying than his fully charged one, lol.
I believe you misinterpreted Wolf's recoil animation, it is in fact there it's just that he keeps the recoil energy into the blaster itself hence the huge swing up. The reason why Fox and Falco's body moves back a little is because they're holding the blaster steady so the recoil energy transfers into their body more just so they can keep their aim. Wolf uses the blaster's recoil to his advantage as he also uses it as an attack with the blade.
Also wolf's leg turns back with the blaster recoil to keep steady.
I can guess who'll go into A or S tier: Captain Falcon, Kirby and King K Rool.
Falcon and Kirby are obvious
Captain falcon shit suck
K Rool clearly
mewtwo gotta be S
@@miles4100 RIP
This video came out for the perfect time for me as I was in a hotel struggling for entertainment so I just pinned watched all of this though I was wondering why there was so much of the video left when you did the last character only to find out you were doing all the Kirby hats
thanks for the unprompted blogposting.
Massive props for ranking all the inhale abilities, that seems like a nightmare. But it means we get to hear kirby's voicelines, so it's a win in my book.
8:21 "The bayonet causes damage" *damages Bayonetta*
I don't know if anyone's said it, but I love Kirby's backward hat when he inhales Ness. It's a reference to the hat he gets for the yoyo ability in the Kirby games, which is in itself a reference to Ness' main weapon.
I love how Nintendo didn’t try to sugar coat jokers gun and just called it gun
Kirby not changing impressions while using Giant Punch fits him so much because he has "not having a single idea of what's currently happening" feeling to him all the time
Two things:
Little Mac has a unique animation for when he uses his neutral B in the air, he awkwardly gets lunged with a shocked expression, it's amazing.
Kirby's Bowser animation is a reference to his Fire ability.
Greninja canonically does pull water from his “leg sacks” as you put it, but in his home game, he’s supposed to throw one at a time as a 2-5 hit move, not enlarge them in his hands.
Yeah, I think the giant ones are in reference to Ash-Greninja from both the anime and the Sun/Moon Special Demo, but even then you don’t charge them up.
@@wozaow Not to mention that Ash-Greninja came out 2 years after Smash 4
In the anime when Greninja uses Water Shuriken he sometimes put them together. The most notable time is when Frogadier evolves into Greninja in the anime.
I feel like the emphasis on using it for this move was because Greninja is making a unique shape for the shuriken by imprinting it. It makes sense given how Greninja was added in smash as well as all his attacks besides neutral b weren't kunais.
I thoroughly disagree about corrin's dragon mask, I think how over-the-top it is perfectly suits the dragon abilities and because of that it's one of my favorite kirby hats. It makes him look like some world-destroying ball of death. It's a mess but I think that's kind of the point, to give off a bit of eldritch horror vibes. But that'll just be different opinions
I agree. Corrin’s pretty much the cronenberg of the roster, and I think that applying the dragon “helmet” onto Kirby highlights just how bizarre Corrin’s anatomy really is.
@@anankos795 I also agree. The Corrin hat is one of the best if not the best Kirby hats in the game. The dragon form mask fits perfectly with Kirby and Im very happy they implemented the mask instead of hair. Also hello there Anankos. Been a while, fellow Corrin propagandist ;)
Especially given the final boss's design, it's 10000000% supposed to be eldritch horror vibes.
I don't really like the design of the complete dragon transformation of Corrin, I think it has bizarre proportions, its limbs bend it weird ways, and its overall too scraggly to pass off as powerful as it is, plus it's missing a lot of the bits that are used from Corrin's dragon fang moves. I do think the head looks pretty cool, but I also see where Mock is coming from; my main issue is that it doesn't look like the head of a sentient being, more like the helmet that a Power Rangers villain would wear. If they were smitten with the general body type of full-dragon Corrin, I would have gone with a design more along the lines of Arceus or Dialga from Pokemon.
Having said all of this, just from a purely visual and conceptual standpoint, I think Corrin is the coolest Fire Emblem character on the roster; almost all of her attacks involving the dragon fang are incredible looking, and her Omega Yato sword attacks aren't bad either. Personal favorites being her chainsaw-to-piercing stab Forward Smash, her graceful yet powerful wing bash Back Aerial, and her incredibly monstrous Dragon Fang Shot.
@@mettatonex7221 yeah your power rangers comparison is very accurate. And I understand not liking how scrawny the dragon form looks, although for me that’s part of the appeal, it makes it appear almost like a skeleton especially with the detached lower jaw which just adds to the weirdness and creepiness.
Also, Im pretty sure the design is based on a Kirin, which is a mythological creature with elements of both deer and dragons. Which would explain the weird leg angles, they seem to be deer-like, as well as the horns on the mask. It’s a strange design that’s for sure
Luigi’s fireballs could also be a reference to how the fireballs are in Mario Bros, where they’re both green in color and travel in an arc unaffected by gravity.
One minor thing that really bugs me about Bowser Jr's cannon is that they didn't use the super distinctive "ba-Boom" cannon sound effect from the cannons in the airships of the Mario games or bullet bills. Even though they don't always use that sound effect in all the modern Mario games I think it would have added a lot of character to the move similar to Mario's fireball having the old-school fireball sounds from Mario games.
Odyssey actually has a very good rendition of it, which would have been a good fit.
Fun little detail about Shulk. The sound effect you hear when you switch from one Monado art to another when using the wheel, is the exactly the same sound that you can hear in Xenoblade chronicles when switching arts in battle UI
The simple Mii Gunner Laser is probably more because of all the costumes they can wear.
Just so you know, you're definitely one of my favorite youtubers, and I watch a lot! Every single new video is like a little treat 😄
Dang, what an incredibly thorough video. Absolutely worth every minute of its run time. Well done!
Just a couple notes:
- The charge-up to DK’s punch actually spins faster towards the end. It’s a nice touch in line with moves like Shuriken of Light that accelerate, but this is also how the move looked in, of all things, Subspace Emissary. The way DK swings his arm when he’s about to punch Diddy out of harm’s way is strangely reminiscent of this Ultimate animation in a way I love.
- Kinda bothered by how much of Rosalina’s face is covered during her charge-up. I wish her body and head tilted backwards or more towards camera, so that we can see her one eye during more of the charge-up than just the very end.
- In Xenoblade, Monado Enchant (which despite the name, seems to be what Buster is based on) is an effect placed on Shulk and his allies’ weapons, to let them cut through enemies their gear otherwise bounces off of. As a result, I kinda like Buster only lighting up the sword and not the hands, like Smash.
- Kinda wish Kirby got plush Pikmin in the same vein as the plush Kazooie. Maybe for other moves, too?
- Like you said about White Kirby with Robin’s copy ability, I think a couple skins kinda make it harder to look at certain animations. As cool as the Dark Link skins are, for example, almost everything is the same shade that it’s easy to look at it all as one blob. It’s also really easy to miss how Toon Link’s bow goes straight into his front foot this way, too.
- Huge agree on Daisy. Why DIDN’T they give her a Shy Guy or something instead of Toad? Maybe make her look more like she’s sending them forward instead of cowering?
- Not enough love given to the smooth animation transition from unshaved MockRock to shaved MockRock. Very nice swap from one to the other, and the coffee mug on Frame 3+ really helps hide the missing facial hair. Good sound design on the sip, too.
There's only one kazooie, but there's plenty real Pikmin and Lumas so I don't think they need to be plushies on Kirby. would be a nice touch though, since they die after use.
I’ve always thought Luigi was doing a gun pose as if he was shooting off the fireball
Also absolute mad respect for doing every single one of Kirby’s
Mockrock: Says the word "Sorry" during the intro.
Me: Is violently reminded that he's Canadian.
I work with a Canadian, the dude can’t go five minutes without saying it, lol
Something I noticed about Charizard is that there's a little drool effect where small droplets drip onto the ground beneath his mouth if you look closely enough. Kinda gross, but also kinda cool I guess. Same with Bowser as well.
I think they’re meant to be sort of fire sparks? They seem to be coming from the flames not exactly dripping from their mouths
As one of two swordfighter mains, Blurring Blade can be held for a stronger startup/chamber animation
Love that Kirby practically goes into the splits when doing Roy's and Chrom's neutral special
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Edit: as a classically and historically trained fencer in Italian and Spanish rapier (among other weapons) the Shieldbreaker animations hurt my soul :p
Also I laughed aloud at the Falcon Punch XD
Lol, I'd imagine it hurts you more than it hurts me. And it hurts me just fine.
A couple points of kirby hat trivia:
-There's actually a character who wears that exact Lucario hat in Pokémon Battle Revolution, so that's a pretty nifty touch
-The plush/hand puppet Kazooie is actually also seen in Banjo-Tooie, where it's used in multiplayer versions of the minigames; for the FPS-mode ones, it's what characters other than Banjo use in lieu of a live Kazooie to shoot eggs with
(also, I feel like that thing Greninja is doing -- which also a canon animation -- is less actually drawing water from its legs than just mimicking the motions of a ninja pulling shurikens out of their pants)
I've always thought that the shurikens came from those star shapes in its legs
The shurikens DO come from those star shapes, but in actual Pokemon, Greninja just shoots multiple water shurikens instead of it being a charging thing.
My one complaint with Hero's Kafrizz is that the lingering fire effects on the ground look like they should be dealing damage if an enemy touches them.
No mention of gigaflare darkening the screen? that's my favorite thing about it
You forgot about the pits' aiming upwards! It transitions between the sideways and upwards positions well and is just fun to mess around with midmatch.
Also, why gunner's cannon doesn't have any flaps or steam etc. moving is likely cus the cannon changes per costume, and none of them share the exact same features so they have to go with a default "no extra animations" sadly. Would look odd if cuphead's finger started smoking from flaps that don't exist, you know?
The fact that you went over every Kirby copy ability is why I always say you deserve way more subscribers. Thank you for your great work, my favorite RUclipsr!!
roy's feet pretty much serves as a indicator point to where the explosion willa ctualyl take place. its why it is stretched out like that, so the player can know that the hitbox is a bit more pushed forward compared to the other moves of the character that have pretty close hitboxes. its also the reason why he holds his feet like that in the air. looks a bit unnatural with the step back? yea. makes sense, if you consider he is meassuring his reach? also yes.
For Mythra, while charging the move, you can see ether lines become more visible on her body as she charges the moves. They’re more noticiable on her legs if you’re using a skin with darker leggings. Dunno why they didn’t do something similar for Pyra.
It's because lighting buster is mythra's level 3 special in the game for all level 3 specials you can see the ether lines on the blades you can see the ether lines on her side b blazing end which is her level 3 in the game
This was ripped from from the original game where the ether lines show up for all level 3 and 4 specials, which means Mythra's neutral-B, Pyra's side-B, and their Final Smashes. I love that they included this touch in Smash. It's extremely subtle, but it just adds that little extra bit of uniqueness to go with their more sci-fi aesthetic compared to other sword fighters. There's also a shine attached to the sword's Core Crystal, aligned with its orientation which gets more intense the longer the attack is charged, which I also love.
1:03:47 Just wanted to point out here that this move is chargeable and I wanted to know if you had just forgotten about it or just found it not important enough to comment on? Either way I love this video, especially as an aspiring animator and smash fan
Edit: 1:05:52 I'd imagine they didn't bother animating the default gun option when the character's outfit is fully customizable
Edit 2: Very specific detail but I really like how when villager takes an Item out of their pocket and not a projectile they'll do the same animation from animal crossing, its just very cute
Edit 3: 1:45:56 This is actually an odd detail lifted from the anime but Greninja actually makes the water shurikens in the shape of the shuriken pattern on its legs, not the sacs of water, so basically Greninja's using them as a mold. Either was it's super cool looking
Edit 4 (holy crap this comment is long wow sorry): Another really cool detail I want to point out is for mac's KO punch, during the wind up, it almost looks like he might be feinting a straight punch and then coming in for the uppercut at the last second which is not only really cool if true, but also explains why it goes through shield
This video is as long as Sonic Forces
For his neutral special, MockRock wields Talk.
Which becomes Gun when subscribed.
If I may give one piece of advice, it would be to add more tiers. Having more choice in where to put characters, makes it easiers to understand where the characters truly deserves to be, instead of it being crammed in with a hundred of other characters in B tier
As someone who goes into Training Mode just to look at animations, I would love to see this as a series.
Funny you mentioned Sora's voice acting, the voice clips they used are from Dream Drop Distance and IMO those are his worst voice lines by a huge margin.
I'm interested to see how he ranks the Miis in this one since they have 3 neutral specials. In my eyes none of the Miis have fantastic ones so I'm not expecting any (except Brawler for having Falcon Punch number 3) to be better than C unless points are given just for having three animations
Edit: Also I appreciate how on Wolf's gun, with the bayonet, the enemy chosen was Bayonetta
I think he picks Random most of the time for the NPC's
lol what did bullet seed do to this man.
all jokes aside I love this series, it feels like peak game dev appreciation hours and it makes me realize how much love was put into even the tiniest poses and movements.
I would love to see Back Airs, it’s such an odd move that every character uses differently and I could see that being really fun to analyze!
Kirby's backwards hat as Ness and the one-footed pose when he uses Bowser's fire breath are both references to copy abilities in Kirby (yo-yo and fire respectively).
Leaving comment for the algo. I LOVE this series, so interesting to watch the little details they put into such critical parts of the game. And when I realized that only three characters were left, that there were 30 minutes left, and that one of those characters was Kirby…
Can’t believe you actually ranked them all, didn’t even notice how cute Kirby sounds making those voice lines. Wonderful work.
I think back throws would be really cool, they often have really strong animations.
Krool back throw is amazing
the animation of greninja touching the crosses on the legs happens even in pokemon if you look at the animation in gameplpay with the bad camera cuts, in the anime i think its sometimes ignored for the sake of animation, there he also charges it by just pure willpower in the champion finals match.
I think you should've mentioned how ridley's plasma breath has an animation for when he's interrupted during the charge, which is taken from the original games and is super interesting! Still watching though, what a behemoth of a video!
Another thing you didn't mention for ridley is the special animation that happens if you hit him out of it, I'm curious to know your thoughts on that
Sephiroth neutral Special is just something Godly anime like attack.
I really hope this becomes a long-standing series. It's SOOO good to just put on in the background and chill with while I write or work.
The whole Kirby segment at the end was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in a video
Fun fact: Kirby's stance with bowser's hat is a reference to the stance he does when he's fire kirby in his own series
Dark Samus better be getting a high tier. That animation looks absolutely immaculate
Clearly the worst part of Mac’s design is not his terrible aerial ground polarization. It’s not his design encouraging opponents to run away and giving him zero tools to fight it. It’s his disgusting, disgusting difference in arm sizes.
You missed a neat detail in Mythra's Lighting buster.
It lights up her ether lines, since lighting buster is her lvl 3 Blade combo, Pyra's flame nova dosen't do this, Blazing End does.
The ether lines are a grat nod to xenoblade 2, but i wish they would pop up more, just like in the original game, they really glow in there.
They only appear during level 3 and 4 specials in the base game, which is why Smash only has them for Mythra's neutral-B, Pyra's side-B, and their Final Smashes.
I think the reason Charizard changes is in order to emulate the backsprites from the Pokemon games. When those were sprite games, in battle the player's pokemon was always seen from behind
Lucina’s animation leans back and lunges further because, if I recall correctly, she was shorter than Marth (and Robin and Chrom) in Smash 4, as that’s how it should be canonically in Fire Emblem. Due to Ultimate shifting her into Echo Fighter status, they needed to have her scaled up to match Marth’s Hurtboxes.
The animation is identical as it was in Smash 4, she just overall had slightly less range than Marth, honestly they should have kept it like that because it was canonical, but I get it, Echo Fighters.
The sound of your absolutely tired voice with the deep-fried effect explaining Inhale going into S-Tier both scared me slightly and made me bust out laughing. Absolutely hilarious way to end the video. Awesome video in general, keep up the awesome work!
Amazing video, love the dedication that went into this.
Have you considered doing a video about the character's victory screen? I believe it would be fun, though it would rely on you knowing each of the characters personality, history (w/ Game history too) and the likes.
I love seeing another Pit main’s view on aspects about the 2 characters.
I had no idea about the two rings Pit uses since I use DP more lol.
I’m a little surprised you didn’t seem to know mii sword’s blurring blade can be charged, but I honestly don’t think that’d change the ranking much, it just feels a little punchier and that’s kinda it
You my friend have convinced me to fully watch a 3 hour video and I don’t even have a switch. I commend you
A true testament to your videos even if I don’t agree with everything 🙌
This likely doesn't push Mii Brawler up a tier, but I'm like, 80% sure that Flashing Mach Punch is based off of Zanretsuken, a move used by Ryo Sakazaki, a character from SNK who even managed to be added as a Mii Brawler costume released alongside Terry.
Great video as always, MockRock! A couple fun facts about Inhale:
- Kirby wearing Link’s hat actually predates Smash 64 by about 3 years, funnily enough.
- I find the shrinking of the Links’ bows really interesting considering Archer Kirby has a larger bow. Byleth’s bow is much closer to Archer Kirby’s bow in terms of scale (which makes sense, since the Links’ inclusions in Smash predates Archer’s debut while Byleth was released after, so Kirby with a large bow seemed less weird).
- A lot of people consider Kirby’s Samus hats as a reference to Beam Kirby before Super Star introduced Copy Hats (where the beam whip would come from his hand rather than a wand), and I’m going to use a similar justification for Shulk Kirby (though Kirby with anime protag hair is always a plus in my book). You’re right that it looks pretty bad on Mii Gunner Kirby, though.
- Ness Kirby is just Makiko Ohmoto… imitating herself. It’s perfect.
- Bowser Kirby’s pose is a direct reference to Fire Kirby’s pose in Super Star!
- Part of me wishes they updated Doctor Kirby’s hat to included a lab coat since Planet Robobot gave us Doctor Kirby, the series’ most detailed Copy “Hat” to date.
- I find it funny how there is literally an unmasked Meta Knight costume for Kirby and you chose Blue Kirby to show off his Copy Ability. I guess to avoid confusion?
- Greninja Kirby’s hat is likely at least partially the way it is because iirc, Greninja was chosen as Smash 4’s Pokemon rep before Pokemon X & Y was released. The hat could be based on concept art, and they simply didn’t have the time to change it afterwards in either 4 or Ultimate. Or it could just be that the actual curve would look weird on Kirby ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
- Cute story with Terry Kirby: back when new characters were added to Ultimate, Makiko Ohmato was never told the Copy Ability that she’s voicing lines for. However, she was able to correctly guess that Terry was coming to Smash because she recognized “Power Wave!” from memories of playing Fatal Fury with her brother.
Something about MockRock saying “Good morning” after taking a sip of coffee is funny and weirdly comforting
One thing I feel like could have been pointed out:
When you discussed Daisy and Peach you didn't acknowledge the facial expression in the move. I know the move doesn't exactly fit daisy but when peach bunkers down she looks shocked and a little worried. When Daisy does it she does it in a much more exaggerated way by closing her eyes and she even keeps smiling I think.
I think this does actually convey her personality a little bit more than you said, but ultimately I think your placement still stands.
The blade shapes you see from Sephiroth's are actually how the explosion particle effects looked in the older Final Fantasy titles when using variations of flare/mega flare. Especially prominent when Sephiroth fully charges it.
i might be missing something but it doesn't seem fair to derank hadouken for being made obvious by 30 years of history if the mario bros fireballs don't take the same hit.
Something else cool about Sheik's Needles is that they visually stick onto the stage for a few seconds when you shoot them into the ground or a wall.
Not easy to see, but a welcome detail.
I think Greninja's "touching the leg water sacks" thing is more him doing a subtle ninjutsu pose (it's a lot more obvious in the Smash 4 trailer right before Water Shuriken is charged). The hands just happen to be right over the legs for the actual model animation
I actually *really* like Lucina's neutral vs Marth's. Something about how Marth's left hand is held behind him and the position it's in just does *not* sit well with me, while Lucina's feels a lot more natural in her pose.
for villager and isabelle i also really like how the pocket fail animation plays resignation emote for villager and daydream for isabelle. very fitting
19:22 I understood that reference :>
Hey mockrock, i just thought you should know in case you didnt, but there's a way to toggle particle effects on and off, so for a move like falcon punch, you could turn off the flames in order to better see the pose. I know this doesnt have gameplay ramifications since you can never turn off particle effects in battle, but I thought you should know if you didnt already
There is (I actually used it for the thumbnail of this video) but it's not doable in Training Mode, and I generally try and stick there just to keep the project at least a bit more under control
@@MockRockTalk Thanks for the reply!
I showed the greninja water shuriken part to my brother and he reminded me that Greninja pulls the shurikens from his legs in the anime! He just slaps his legs and yeets!
The animations in this episode were smooth but Mockrock's shave was smoother
The reason the Mii Gunner's gun doesn't have any fancy animations is because its just a costume. The cannon changes with the outfit, so it would be a lot of work for something that wouldn't even appear on alternate outfits.
For the Pirahna Plant Copy Ability, he forgot to mention the animation for Kirby trying to spawn another ball while one’s out. I saw it recently for myself; it makes the Ability all the better.
One cool detail I noticed while watching this, for Chrom's neutral special the little point of light travels up the sword as it charges, reaching the tip right at maximum charge.
Gonna make some comments on stuff as I watch, so I'm gonna edit this as I go along.
With Mii Swordfighter's Tornado move, I think it'd be cool if you could see the air he's gathering as he spins
I know some people (myself included) want icons on the Mii's HUD to show off which specials they're using, but what if Mii Gunner's blaster was a different color depending on the different specials.
With Terry, it would have been nice if you discussed Power Geyser since it's meant to be a part of Neutral B
With Little Mac, since you were discussing sound design, it would have been nice if you discussed the different sounds for the two wireframe alts.
1:56:11 I was gonna say Mac's arm being bigger made sense but then I realized it was his left arm and he does his attacks with his right.
I'm actually going to disagree with you on Olimar: I don't think it needed to be like that. I think the move should have been slower and have more pronounced effort on plucking the Pikmin out of the ground. Not just for the animation either; one of my complains about Olimar is that the finite nature of the Pikmin doesn't really matter as much because of how quick and easy it is to replace them (now granted it still makes it more difficult to control your specific inventory of Pikmin types, but Olimar will essentially never be helpless like this). So making it a bit more risky to pluck them might go a long way to emphasizing the importance of managing them properly to disincentivize putting them in riskier positions. But for the sake of the animation, it would make for a more faithful reference to the home series, put more weight behind the pluck, and would most certainly have more charm than what is already going on.
Well, that's 3 hours of my life I don't want to get back. Fantastic video!
If Kirby doesn’t get an S then I will slap you through the internet
19:36 I noticed on Dark Pit, which made me go back to check Pit- that the light at their fingertips, blends in and draws attention from the extremely thin bowstring of light that actually bends the bow. That's such good attention to detail that I have never even noticed before.
Goodness, three hours?
I don’t think I can watch this in one sitting, but I’m gonna watch through the whole thing XD
I've learned a lot more about animation than I ever thought I would from your videos.
I've never noticed this before! While charizard is using flamethrower, his drool drips from his mouth like a fiery acid!
From watching sugar punch studios videos, I can appreciate the way some the characters clothes blow back when they use a move
I’m interested in what exactly sparks your disinterest of Sora as a character, cause as an outsider to Kid Icarus, I see Pit as a very similar character.
I'm not actually all that into the Kid Icarus series tbh, I main Dark Pit much more just because I like his playstyle in Smash than anything else. I did like the writing of Uprising a decent amount but only because it's a lot more irreverent and fun than I was expecting.
Ah, ok. That makes sense. Great video btw!
I found it weird that he mocked Sora yelling the spells while both lucas and Robin ended up in S tier, but I do agree that those a pretty basic magic in the source game, specially the KH1 versions where they are based from, so they being on a B level seems fair
@@VGInterviews I mean DDD Sora's voice isn't very good. I love KH and Sora and I don't like it at all.
What's fun about luigi vs mario's animations is that luigi's throwing stance conveys the more controlled nature of the fireball, mario kinda just yeets it from the one hand, while luigi kinda charges it up with both hands then throws it out in a more directed way, you can see him almost aiming it with his thumb and finger.