Lol no he is saying buy the 109 pro instead which is VERY bad advice because the 105 measure similarly to the 109 pro, they have the same driver, similar build, yet they are half the price. This headphone is probably Meze’s best value product.
I like the 105, they split the difference between the 99 classic and 109 pro. They lean more towards the pros vs the classic. I'll be ordering my wife a set for Christmas, she heard them at Canjam Dallas and loved them.
excited to try these. 109pro imo was incredibly bright sounding, not necessarily sibilant but extremely sharp and will definitely get fatiguing after a while. they were oh so comfortabloe though, and having another offering with that built at this price might be a hit.
If you haven't already try some HD660 S2's, I found the 109pro just as sharp as you describe and returned them. Then I started looking for headphones that put emphasis on midrange more than the treble and the only answer I could find were those Sennheiser's. While everyone is doing either V shape or emphasized highs to give a false feeling of detail and liveness, the Sennheiser's go at it backwards and put emphasis on realistic timbre, midrange and refined highs, that's why they are incredibly special. But YMMV since everyone has a type of sound they prefer.
@@RagnetulCarpatilor I have the HD6XX and the 109pro and I don't find the 109pro fatiguing at all, fortunately. Plus they're way more comfortable than the HD6XX. As you said, mid-range and vocals on the HD6XX are better though bass is worse.
I tried these at Dallas canjam and to me they sound damn near the same as 109 pro but less bright. If I didn't own auteur classic I would for sure pick these up. They are definitely worth the price they are asking for.
I have 109 and tested these in Munich Highend show. I can confirm these are not that good. Although they have less sharpness than 109 which results less fatiguing experience, but they sounded very generic and didn't have half of the fun I get from 109.
@@Nick_in_the_6ix i was very close to going for it, but then came the ath r70x refine and it was even more of a tossup. with the sundara. def wasnt going for the hd600 so scratch that one. eventually settled on the r70x refine. sadly im in batch 3 so it comes in marchish vs batch 2 that comes in dec
Nice to see this price segment start to get more options. The amount of IEMs in this middling price segment is staggering compared to over ears for whatever reason.
so they change the tuning , when they first show it - it was stated it would be different vs the 109 and tuned towards flat neutral and studio monitoring style of a sound , and now its coming out it seems just a 109 cheaper sibling
GadgetryTech give an awesome review about this headset, I give as gift to my friend my 1770 Pro and since then I’m using wireless headphones but this one really make me doubt about going back to cable
Hey Joshua, just a quick one regarding your best 300 dollars headphones.Just checking, since the Edition XS is now less than 300, do they potentially blow the others away? Specially since they were sub 500 and already pretty good and were praised by many?
I would say this is in a completely different price bracket than the hadenys. My guess is the hadenys would be much more to your liking, but almost twice the price of these. Whether that's worth it is totally up to you
@@Mr.Manson LCD-2 or classic? From what I have read about them is that they have good extension in sub bass but mid bass impact is lacking, perhaps i am wrong about this? I listen to a lot of Hip Hop and EDM type genres and looking for something with mid bass impact too.
@Shout0 My daily driver now is the LCD-X and it's amazing. The bass can go into brain massage levels with a simple EQ. Mid bass and everything up is also great. Absolutely the best drums/percussion I've heard. The thing is, those big ass drivers make them sound grand and thick, just a solid fun sound with all the detail you could want. I've also had (or have, the headband has terrible construction and broke) Focal Clear Mg, and in comparison it lacked in sub bass, a lot. But they have this light fun punchy sound, where you really feel the air being pushed onto your ears in certain songs. I would more recommend the normal LCD-2 over the classic, if you wanna go that way - and don't wanna spend more. They are less detailed than the X, but still has overall the characteristics that make it good. Plus they make even bad recordings really inoffensive, which is rampant in your preferred genres. It's up to you if you want fun light sound (Focal) or the thick grand one (Audeze). Also keep in mind replacement parts and support (spoiler: Focal is terrible for it).
Good looking cans. I do however enjoy the fast/ clearer bass response from a set of planars. I recently tried the Ananda stealth and the clarity was just astounding, but the comfort for my big noggin was just horrendous on the top hot spot. Once the funds allow it, I think I'll be going for the fiio Ft5 because they seem to hit looks and sound. My planar experience come from Dan Clark aeon and hifiman h5xx.
I'm really curious to hear a comparison of your top recommendations especially for listening / producing / mixing / mastering EDM $1000 - $2000 Arya Organic MM500 HE1000SE
Thanks. I tried them out at the socal canjam. Tough to assess as the place was loud & buzzing Super comfy & light, dig the aesthetic though too much V shape and fatigue for me. 109's were a better experience.
Hello!! I would like to know more about the soundstage, how is it when compared to the 109? Also, would it be nonsense to pair the 105 with a Moondrop Dawn Pro? Any help is welcome!! Thanks in advance.
Meze designer needs a raise
Joshua, how does this compare to the slightly cheaper Aune AR5000, you reviewed a few months back? Do you think the Meze is worth the extra $100?
@@mocomike01 hard choices indeed 🤔
I prefer Aune.
What he is trying to say here without making Meze mad is that these aren't very good. Or that is how i took the message at least.
Just not his taste. I've heard many other reviews saying they'd rather have this over the 109. It's all personal preference!😊
I thought he made it pretty clear that they're good, but more of a "fun", V-shaped sound, and so your tastes will determine how much you enjoy these.
Lol no he is saying buy the 109 pro instead which is VERY bad advice because the 105 measure similarly to the 109 pro, they have the same driver, similar build, yet they are half the price.
This headphone is probably Meze’s best value product.
@EvilMilton sure, that's like your opinion man
@@omlg4svector He paraphrased Josh's words mate. Meaning not his opinion lmao.
Fun fact: AER means AIR in Romanian, the country where MEZE was founded.
You mean to tell me that Aer means Air??? Didn't realize Antonio was going to throw such a cipher at us to decrypt.
@@The_Hipster_Cow i mean it's kinda similar to air
@@FXV56 I'm just ball busting, lol
@@The_Hipster_Cow how could this be!? i though it was an anagram for EAR! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Because here in Romania the term for Air is Aer in Romanian language @goosmdoosm4755
I like the 105, they split the difference between the 99 classic and 109 pro. They lean more towards the pros vs the classic.
I'll be ordering my wife a set for Christmas, she heard them at Canjam Dallas and loved them.
excited to try these. 109pro imo was incredibly bright sounding, not necessarily sibilant but extremely sharp and will definitely get fatiguing after a while. they were oh so comfortabloe though, and having another offering with that built at this price might be a hit.
If you haven't already try some HD660 S2's, I found the 109pro just as sharp as you describe and returned them. Then I started looking for headphones that put emphasis on midrange more than the treble and the only answer I could find were those Sennheiser's. While everyone is doing either V shape or emphasized highs to give a false feeling of detail and liveness, the Sennheiser's go at it backwards and put emphasis on realistic timbre, midrange and refined highs, that's why they are incredibly special. But YMMV since everyone has a type of sound they prefer.
@@RagnetulCarpatilor I have the HD6XX and the 109pro and I don't find the 109pro fatiguing at all, fortunately. Plus they're way more comfortable than the HD6XX. As you said, mid-range and vocals on the HD6XX are better though bass is worse.
I tried these at Dallas canjam and to me they sound damn near the same as 109 pro but less bright. If I didn't own auteur classic I would for sure pick these up. They are definitely worth the price they are asking for.
That Boom mic is kinda a game changer. Might have to get those for my Planars.
It records so well
How do these compare/contrast to the Aune AR5000?
Surprised there wasn’t much mention of gaming with testing on the Gunnr and the boom mic option. Love the look of these
I have 109 and tested these in Munich Highend show. I can confirm these are not that good. Although they have less sharpness than 109 which results less fatiguing experience, but they sounded very generic and didn't have half of the fun I get from 109.
The mic is excellent. Movement noise makes it sound soothing.
How does this compare to something like the AR5000 from Aune?
I was waiting for him to do that comparison. At the moment the Aune is the sh*t. Love that hp.
@@Nick_in_the_6ix i was very close to going for it, but then came the ath r70x refine and it was even more of a tossup. with the sundara. def wasnt going for the hd600 so scratch that one. eventually settled on the r70x refine. sadly im in batch 3 so it comes in marchish vs batch 2 that comes in dec
Nice to see this price segment start to get more options. The amount of IEMs in this middling price segment is staggering compared to over ears for whatever reason.
Just wish they used a black stained walnut instead of plastic
Have you found good substitute pads for the 105s Josh?
Focal also has a new Lensys headphones too 🤔
Oh damn! How tf did I miss the news… Gonna search for the reviews
so they change the tuning , when they first show it - it was stated it would be different vs the 109 and tuned towards flat neutral and studio monitoring style of a sound , and now its coming out it seems just a 109 cheaper sibling
I own the 109s, LOVE them.
How about if you want to jump up and get down music?
GadgetryTech give an awesome review about this headset, I give as gift to my friend my 1770 Pro and since then I’m using wireless headphones but this one really make me doubt about going back to cable
Bass head? If so , better than TH900?
what about the meze 105 VS sony mdr-m1 ? i would argue you get a objective better headphone with the sony for half the price.....
Hey Joshua, just a quick one regarding your best 300 dollars headphones.Just checking, since the Edition XS is now less than 300, do they potentially blow the others away? Specially since they were sub 500 and already pretty good and were praised by many?
This, or Focal Hadenys for an upgrade from HD58x? Looking for Open Back with bass.
I would say this is in a completely different price bracket than the hadenys. My guess is the hadenys would be much more to your liking, but almost twice the price of these. Whether that's worth it is totally up to you
Consider the Audeze LCD-2.
@@Mr.Manson LCD-2 or classic? From what I have read about them is that they have good extension in sub bass but mid bass impact is lacking, perhaps i am wrong about this? I listen to a lot of Hip Hop and EDM type genres and looking for something with mid bass impact too.
@Shout0 My daily driver now is the LCD-X and it's amazing. The bass can go into brain massage levels with a simple EQ. Mid bass and everything up is also great. Absolutely the best drums/percussion I've heard. The thing is, those big ass drivers make them sound grand and thick, just a solid fun sound with all the detail you could want.
I've also had (or have, the headband has terrible construction and broke) Focal Clear Mg, and in comparison it lacked in sub bass, a lot. But they have this light fun punchy sound, where you really feel the air being pushed onto your ears in certain songs.
I would more recommend the normal LCD-2 over the classic, if you wanna go that way - and don't wanna spend more. They are less detailed than the X, but still has overall the characteristics that make it good. Plus they make even bad recordings really inoffensive, which is rampant in your preferred genres.
It's up to you if you want fun light sound (Focal) or the thick grand one (Audeze). Also keep in mind replacement parts and support (spoiler: Focal is terrible for it).
Edition XS, or if you want a dynamic the MDR-MV1 has amazing sub-bass extension
I wish i could pay 100$ extra for my Edition XS so they look and fit like these...
Good looking cans. I do however enjoy the fast/ clearer bass response from a set of planars. I recently tried the Ananda stealth and the clarity was just astounding, but the comfort for my big noggin was just horrendous on the top hot spot. Once the funds allow it, I think I'll be going for the fiio Ft5 because they seem to hit looks and sound. My planar experience come from Dan Clark aeon and hifiman h5xx.
I'm really curious to hear a comparison of your top recommendations especially for listening / producing / mixing / mastering EDM $1000 - $2000
Arya Organic
MM500
HE1000SE
mm500, rest is ear piercingly bright.
Thanks. I tried them out at the socal canjam. Tough to assess as the place was loud & buzzing
Super comfy & light, dig the aesthetic though too much V shape and fatigue for me. 109's were a better experience.
will you review the Ft1 pro?
What kind of silencer do you recommend for a SCAR-L?
Headphones are so subjective , I’m sure we all like different sounds .
I would this over hd 490 pro anyday
Hello!! I would like to know more about the soundstage, how is it when compared to the 109? Also, would it be nonsense to pair the 105 with a Moondrop Dawn Pro?
Any help is welcome!!
Thanks in advance.
i dont know about the 105 but my dawn pro can drive my 109s. You get pretty close/all the way to maxing them out but you can do it
Would you get this one over the Ananada Nano ? Ananda Nano is currently 400 usd in Aliexpress.
Why are the new additions to this price point so mid every single time? This headphone should have been game changing.
beard up close so close I could see pizza crums :D ;)
Always wanted to try a Meze but my Edition XS is just so damn good lol. I love it. ❤ Mezes look amazing though.
Used to watch your channel a lot, but been away for a while. Now Im back, but wanted to say, thanks for the content and Jesus saves
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If Venom were a headphone. Love the look, tuning's not for me, though.
When I hear "elevated bass" , "V-Shaped" or "reduced mid-range", I immediately steer away
This vs 490 producer pads
I want this, but i want a closed back to for my upcoming flights.... CAn you just tell me what would you get for a flight with portable amp or dongle?
Audeze Maxwell and you don't even need a DAC/Amp since it's wireless and has an Amp built into the headphones
Or the Focal Azurys. Josh raved about those
Rather than trypohpobia its giving me spider web vibes
AER means AIR in romanian
i got all excited from the thumbnail, but it's just another black headphone. rip
Paint it any color you want.
I'm Waiting for 99 Classic V2 Plss make it 😂
The 99 classics had already several silent revisions…
1:12 One of the best looking headphones? What an asinine "review".
Joshua alittlebit better shill valour
Dude look day after day more like ``soap`` mactavish
trypophobia bros, get out of here
Shame these are black. The wood look of the 99 and 109's are to die for.
The cup of the 109 is real wood, where on the 105, it's black plastic.
@mattrismatt I kind of assumed. I'm just saying the 109 and 99 look much better instead of just using black like the majority of headphones.
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Sorry, but the headband on these look ridiculous. So unnecessary….
Just say you have bad taste
WWWWOOOWWWW an open headphone. AMAZING!
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