1. Acquire best sleep (cannabis can help) 2. Take B1 to support parasympathetic 3. Take adrenal grandular, or adaptogen (Rhodiola, ..) to support sympathetic system.
I am aged 58 and I have been taking Thiamine nitrate 250mg every day for the last 3 months together with being on Keto diet and I can honestly say my adrenals are starting to heal, my back has straightened (vegas nerve) and my hair is getting wavy again (increase in hormonal production), my sinuses have cleared and my anxiety levels have considerably reduced. Totally amazing.
That's a pretty low dose too. I was taking Thiamine Mononitrate 500mg for about a month and then added in 50mg TTFD and Benfotiamine around 150 to 300mg pet day for another 3 months. My IBS didn't go away until I started putting the Benfotiamine under my tongue. I guess I wasn't digesting much of anything, until now. Elliott saved my life.
What do you mean by your back has straightened? Do you mean literally? And if so why is the vagus nerve related to that? My guess is that the thiamine has improved the ability of the vagus nerve to calm you down which in turn has increased your general sense of well-being which has subsequently improved your confidence and you confidence and parasympathetic dominance is related to your posture? Please let me know your thoughts.
PLEASE give us part 2. People are suffering and looking for relief. Either provide the answers you promised or point to where we can find them for ourselves.
I’m new and now waiting for the second part of this video. What a cliffhanger! I seriously do suffer from ALL the issues of adrenal fatigue and not really getting better even though I’m Keto and lost 68 pounds. I need your second half of this video and now will troll you everyday. Thank you
Keto can be great when done properly, but it should not be recommended as a diet for everyone. It is for specific issues (in my example, I used keto to help in healing severe nerve damage which I was told required the amputation of my right arm due to complete paralysis, I kept my arm and it made a 100% recovery, doctors called it a miracle...I won't go into the full extent of injuries suffered from motorcycle wrecks)...and many misunderstand what a ketogenic diet actually is. For example, many think it is "zero carb", which is false. Carbs should still be 10-20% of a keto diet, which you get from vegetable sources (green leafy veg for example). It's important to minimise starchy carbs and sugars (but not necessarily completely eliminate vegetable and fruit sources of carbs/sugars...carrots, beetroots and bananas for example are still good, it depends largely on what the mineral benefit of the food item is), and it is also important to ensure that your fat sources on a keto diet are healthy fat sources, such as nuts, butter and meat...not hydrogenated vegetable fats or other "dirty" oils. For example, you could "technically" do a ketogenic diet eating mcdonalds by discarding the bun and only eating a few of the fries, which would hit the correct macros....but that would cause a LOT of underlying health issues. Five years on from nearly losing my arm I am still on a largely protein and fat based diet, with relatively little carbohydrate (although I'm no longer strict about it, if I have a hunger for potatoes I have me some damn potatoes) and I still haven't gone back to eating foods with processed sugars in them (because they just don't taste good anymore), and I have never suffered any kind of side effect from eating such a "restrictive" (as some like to call it) diet because I eat such a wide variety of whole foods. The most demanding part of this is that I have to prepare all my own meals, but rather than look on this as a chore I try to look on this as doing something good for myself. I've become used to reading the labels on food, and then putting them back on the shelf. My broken body thanks me for it (and thanks me for doing daily physiotherapy). One of the largest benefits of a keto diet done properly is the reduction of inflammation throughout the body.
The connection here made between dysautonomia and Adrenal fatigue, but also indirectly to the polyvagal theory was very insightful. The idea presented in his other videos that gut disorder can cause dysautonomia through thiamine deficiency and vice versa is invaluable if true. Due to the great detail on the biochemical level, it might just be accurate. Great thanks for the input.
Since there doesn't seem to be a second part to this video.. are you saying Elliot ' s new videos on Thiamine deficiency is actually what people mistake as Adrenal fatigue?
Progesterone is by far the best option for adrenal fatigue. The body uses progesterone to produce cortisol, epinephrine, norepinephrine etc. progesterone actually is anti estrogen at the right dosage and increase testosterone as well. It’s also a very calming hormone and a powerful neuro-steroid. Progesterone has literally saved my life and I’m a guy! No hormone is a female or male hormone. All hormones are made in both males and females but in different amounts. Many men have low progesterone and high estrogen. This causes a lot of issues. I take progesterone before bed each night and I have the best sleep in my life!
How do you know how much to take for a male? I have this issue (low P, high E) naturally and have been supplementing with high doses of pregnenolone. I would like to see if progesterone works better (in theory, it should 🤷♂️). Thanks
@@anzajamaa5001 if your test confirm low P, using bio identical,5% USP cream can help. There are plenty vids on cream dosing. On the top of my head, ik women need way more than men. Men typically need about 25mgs daily for low p levels while women need 125mgs usually. I’m no professional; this is just info I’ve come across from others. Nonetheless, suspicion is not always the best driving force to create a treatment plan. It should drive you to continue testing. Perhaps your estrogen is high. P cream can help , but without confirmation on what imbalance persists,You’ll be running around in circles.
Transcortin. The most overlooked component to adrenal fatigue is the cortisol binding protein. Its why these patients will show low cortisol in serum but normal or high levels in urine. Their literally urinating away their cortisol. Their producing plenty of cortisol but the metabolism of unbound cortisol is so much quicker and way more bioactive so they end up on a huge rollercoaster of having the negative effects of low and high cortisol. Insulin is most likely the culprit since it will supress the transcortin synthesis when its present in high amounts. Insulin resistance allows the insulin to "sit around" for way too long supressing transcortins production at the liver. DHEA, berberine, Pregnenlone should help which as many of you know are commonly given to help with adrenal fatigue.
Progesterone is by far the best choice, even for men. The bio identical form of course. Progesterone is what is needed produce all the adrenal hormones. Pregenelone does too but the body turns it into progesterone which then the progesterone is used to make the hormones of the adrenals. The issue with pregenelone is that there is no guarantee it will be used in the desired way.
@@brentc4593any recommendations for progesterone for men (brand/starting dosage)? I’ve been taking 250mg nutricology pregnenolone each day and it’s working, just not as good as it could be due to it choosing it’s own path essentially. Thanks 🙏
Was the follow-up video ever released? Looking through all the videos on the channel doesn't turn up any likely matches. This is great information - would love to see Part 2.
I will join some other commenters in requesting / needing the Part 2. It would be especially interesting if you have any neuroendocrine connections / root causation for what manifests as adrenal fatigue (low Pregnenolone, low DHEA, and eventually low Cortisol - even if Adrenal capacity is unaffected).
@@EONutrition I am looking forward to Part 2. One of my family members suffers from HPA axis dysfunction. I believe it is due to injury to the hypothalamus (autoimmune and drug induced). She was hospitalized for intractable vomiting and they thought it was psychogenic (a rare eating disorder, ARFID); it turns out she has Celiac and Oral Allergy Syndrome. Unfortunately the 'treatment' she received at the hospital did more harm than good - she had a poor response to Olanzapine (which causes ER stress in the hypothalamus) and an adverse reaction to Reglan - this is on top of being forced to eat foods she is allergic to, which I believe only served to increase her level of autoimmunity and mast cell reactivity. I am interested in your take on 'adrenal fatigue' and how to fix it.
@@EONutritionshortly is now 5 years ago 😂😂😂. If you are too busy we understand that but please can you simple tell us here what your root cause for Low cortisol is? At least we can then look the rest up by our own.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎥 Introduction to Adrenal Fatigue 04:11 ⚖️ Adrenal Glands and Stress Response 08:11 🔄 Phases of Adrenal Fatigue Model 10:38 🔄 Pregnenolone Steal Theory 12:12 ⚙️ Conventional View vs. Adrenal Fatigue Made with HARPA AI
At the end he is talking about HPA Axis dysfunction which is what adrenal fatigue should be called. Hypothalmus-Pituatary-Adrenal (HPA) axis. After long term stress (from environment, emotional, physical) the cortisol feedback sensor (my word) is desensitized and doesn't know when to stop correctly. Products like Seriphos work great for this along with lactium.
Lol cpntrolling all stressors, how? I am lying in bed since 10 months after a crash me/CFS. Try to controll this emotionally, If you have no energy. I tested my corticoid-rezeptor and yes it is less sensitive, like in people with Depression, but only a bit, that does not explained that i have zero energy. If you "Rest" 10 months you are then annoyed of resting more, my Body gets more and more sensitive to Stress.
28-Jan-2022 and just watched this video from two years ago. Please add a link to Part II when it's done. I also would like to know what the solution is to adrenal fatigue symptoms. (I'll bet you will say sleep and sunlight!)
This is one of my favorite channels, excellent information! Thank you for this video. I have a question regarding adrenal function. S. Cherniske in his Caffeine Blues cites studies showing that caffeine creates adrenal fatigue by stimulating cortisol release (for some people up to 18 hours after a single cup of coffee) and suppressing DHEA. Coffee also disrupts GABA metabolism and changes the normal function of adenosine receptors. I would really appreciate if you could comment on that. Thanks again for your work!
@@nasaihwaifadate According to that book The Caffeine Blues, green tea is better than the coffee, this is how you are weaning off the coffee. But he wants us to quit the green tea eventually too.
Thanks for posting your comment! I've suspected for some time that my poor sleep, headaches, and fatigue were caused by the daily 40g dark 80% chocolate and therefore caffeine. Today, 28-Jan-2022, was day 1 of zero chocolate. 🤞
@@anastasiianowakowska9200 Today is 25-July-2022 and I'm still not able to quit dark chocolate. Thanks for your post, so I could revisit this. I'm so addicted to my dark chocolate, as it's the one decadence I can enjoy that doesn't cause immediate distress; but does still affect my sleep health. Wish I had good news about quitting. I have tried quitting it multiple times, successful for only a day or three, then getting right back to eating 1/2-1 bar a day. Today is a good day to try again to quit. Moderation does not work for me. Abstenance is the key.
While I'm not doubting that you could be correct on the theory of adrenal fatigue, I will say that I got a ton of good out of the doctor who told me about it and I will always say he was amazing and a great blessing to me. It seems likely that anyone who was told about that theory in anyway similar to my experience may have benefitted at least in some small ways, such as learning to rest and relax or meditate or just to get enough sleep.
why is it that when i take pregnenolone i feel great for a few days before quickly not being able to sleep and losing my libido... It does certainly appear as if all my pregnenolone IS being stolen and being converted into progesterone and cortisol rather than anything that might be more useful
You didn't think we'd be too exhausted to not request part 2, did you? Whatever it is called, I cannot tolerate stress whatsoever. Currently also suffering from post black mold toxicity and mast cell activation syndrome. I'm taking the thiamega but really haven't seen a difference. I do appreciate your hard work though 🙏
I think both is correct, pregnenolone steal is real and the hpa dysfunction are correct bc working on calming the nervous systems helped me get better to a point but pregnenolone also helped me, probably depends on the person and what exactly is going on.
Hi Elliot, how are you doing with filming the next video on "Adrenal Fatigue" symptoms? I went on a 6-mile hike 2 days ago, and by the end of it adrenal fatigue symptoms had hit me like a ton of bricks. I've felt quite awful since then, still not recovering 2 days later. Too much head pain and nausea to sleep at night. I have James Wilson's book and have ordered another bottle of Solaray Adrenal Caps, but I'm looking forward to your next video with more up-to-date information. :)
Where is the follow up video? I'm assuming you were referring to thiamine deficiency? Just started thiamine therapy for a couple weeks now I was always perplexed by adrenal fatigue because one group of people were saying it wasnt real, but all of the "symptoms" of adrenal fatigue seemed to completely fit with me.
@@EONutrition im keen to see it i cant get enough of these videos atm. Thankfully your just like marek my nutrition doc in London and im learning after my oats test. 😁
Yes, DHEA is an anabolic hormone, and it (or derivatives of it) are therefore used for illicit performance enhancing purposes. Depending on your health condition, supplementing with it can be tricky, and unfortunately most supplement dosages available are too / very high. Thankfully, it is still available as a supplement in the USA, so that well informed people suffering from related conditions can benefit, regardless of the ignorance of one's doctor(s).
I have used pregnenolone at a rate of 50mg a week and I have completely lost libido and I feel depressed, what could have happened? I did a before and after test and almost all my hormones have plummeted
This appears to be an empty debunking. I would like to trust the source, as he clearly knows his science and can communicate it well, but no actual evidence was shown and there is no part 2, dozens of videos later.
adrenal fatigue is nothing else than hypothyroidism, you need active thyroid hormones to produce all the steroid hormones, if you like me in the past, think that you have adrenal fatigue/hpa axis dysfunction, i suggest you go to raypeat forum and educate your self about metabolism and thyroid. Good luck.
@Rupert Hawthorne thanks I do the wim hof method for breathing I think it's great. And recently been experimenting with different b vitamins I think that has been helping too.
@Rupert Hawthorne People with 'adrenal fatigue' are very, very ill. I have a family member suffering from this and she has never had a cup of coffee in her life. Your dismissive remarks are offensive.
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T3 resistance cell and nervous tissues. That is the answer
There will probably be nothing more to continued because he has probably realized that he was wrong. After 5 years without an update, the topic is probably over. I By the way, I am very sure that adrenal fatigue exists. How else would the lack of energy and the low cortisol levels in the saliva arise?
I think it's a 2-yr test, so don't stress while waiting for Part 2. - Haha I'm guessing the answer will be that by reducing stress, thus reducing cortisol, other hormones will regulate. How to accomplish reduced stress/cortisol will be sleep, meditation, and circadian sunlight. 😊
Is Elliot back? I want to know what is the matter with my regular low salt...maybe slowly improving but basically my mineralcorticoid are stuck somewhere and some of the enzymes not properly working. I often have potassium at the higher end without effort and had to eat a lot of salt to feel good (also salt on lower end or under range. This struck me as I am the opposite of what most have. Could this be thiamine deficiency?
So then, if your MD gave you a saliva cortisol test and your levels were below baseline, then what? You didn't seem obligated to say just exactly what is to be done when cortisol levels are low. Okay, adrenal fatigue is a myth, let's move on from there and correct some problems.
@@trevorkroemer most salivary cortisol tests fo 4-6 tests during the day and they request it be a normal day and not to use caffeine. So those objections are built into the test.
So there is condition similar to adrenal fatigue and has similar symptoms and causes but it’s not due to lack of building material and overuse of cortisol.Sure mate if you don’t see it I won’t explain
WTF EONutrition, why don't you just tell all the people asking what this goddamn mystery problem is called, instead of "I got sidetracked"... fuckin' hell. What a waste of time.
Part 2? come on...its bad practice to tell your audience you'll do something and then you don't. Obviously they're asking for it. Give your people what they're asking for 😁
Did it help you? I couldn't tell myself. Some have implied they might be dangerous, eating part of another species's nervous system (prions), wildly different hormonal status. Just my 2cents
@@thomas-ud1fs yes it did but I was also taking foliate and ashgawanda. So that combo I think made a huge diff. I’d abuse my body for many years so it took its toll on all my systems
@@krieg-thewarwithin6040 How long did it take and what product were you using?...I tried some but didn't notice a difference. I was given hydrocortisone in the past for this and the difference was immediate, then 6 months later went off and didn't have to take anymore. It's been ten years and symptoms are back and can't find a new source of HC. It sucks, but I guess I'll go back on the adrenal supplement and hope for the best.
ELLIOT!!
We are still waiting for Part Two of the Adrenal Fatigue mystery!!
It's been 3-years and my adrenals are fatigued. Please post Pt2. 🙏🏼❤️
I second that motion!
I think is... You need thiamine!
thiamax i already go that. I still want to binge watch more.
Its thiamine mego dose u need...and vit c with vitamin d
1. Acquire best sleep (cannabis can help)
2. Take B1 to support parasympathetic
3. Take adrenal grandular, or adaptogen (Rhodiola, ..) to support sympathetic system.
I am aged 58 and I have been taking Thiamine nitrate 250mg every day for the last 3 months together with being on Keto diet and I can honestly say my adrenals are starting to heal, my back has straightened (vegas nerve) and my hair is getting wavy again (increase in hormonal production), my sinuses have cleared and my anxiety levels have considerably reduced. Totally amazing.
That's a pretty low dose too. I was taking Thiamine Mononitrate 500mg for about a month and then added in 50mg TTFD and Benfotiamine around 150 to 300mg pet day for another 3 months. My IBS didn't go away until I started putting the Benfotiamine under my tongue.
I guess I wasn't digesting much of anything, until now. Elliott saved my life.
What do you mean by your back has straightened? Do you mean literally? And if so why is the vagus nerve related to that?
My guess is that the thiamine has improved the ability of the vagus nerve to calm you down which in turn has increased your general sense of well-being which has subsequently improved your confidence and you confidence and parasympathetic dominance is related to your posture? Please let me know your thoughts.
@@ParallaxView111 so b complex can absorb sublingual ?
PLEASE give us part 2.
People are suffering and looking for relief. Either provide the answers you promised or point to where we can find them for ourselves.
I’m new and now waiting for the second part of this video. What a cliffhanger! I seriously do suffer from ALL the issues of adrenal fatigue and not really getting better even though I’m Keto and lost 68 pounds. I need your second half of this video and now will troll you everyday. Thank you
A caffeine-free, zero carb, pure carnivore diet might be your best answer.
@Chloe Flourence I agree. I don't recommend keto anymore, just carnivore.
Carnivore diet helped me alot, plus I lowered my coffee intake.
Explore the microbiome and the integrity of the gut lining; could be a reason you're experiencing chronic stress/inflammation
Keto can be great when done properly, but it should not be recommended as a diet for everyone. It is for specific issues (in my example, I used keto to help in healing severe nerve damage which I was told required the amputation of my right arm due to complete paralysis, I kept my arm and it made a 100% recovery, doctors called it a miracle...I won't go into the full extent of injuries suffered from motorcycle wrecks)...and many misunderstand what a ketogenic diet actually is. For example, many think it is "zero carb", which is false. Carbs should still be 10-20% of a keto diet, which you get from vegetable sources (green leafy veg for example). It's important to minimise starchy carbs and sugars (but not necessarily completely eliminate vegetable and fruit sources of carbs/sugars...carrots, beetroots and bananas for example are still good, it depends largely on what the mineral benefit of the food item is), and it is also important to ensure that your fat sources on a keto diet are healthy fat sources, such as nuts, butter and meat...not hydrogenated vegetable fats or other "dirty" oils.
For example, you could "technically" do a ketogenic diet eating mcdonalds by discarding the bun and only eating a few of the fries, which would hit the correct macros....but that would cause a LOT of underlying health issues.
Five years on from nearly losing my arm I am still on a largely protein and fat based diet, with relatively little carbohydrate (although I'm no longer strict about it, if I have a hunger for potatoes I have me some damn potatoes) and I still haven't gone back to eating foods with processed sugars in them (because they just don't taste good anymore), and I have never suffered any kind of side effect from eating such a "restrictive" (as some like to call it) diet because I eat such a wide variety of whole foods. The most demanding part of this is that I have to prepare all my own meals, but rather than look on this as a chore I try to look on this as doing something good for myself.
I've become used to reading the labels on food, and then putting them back on the shelf. My broken body thanks me for it (and thanks me for doing daily physiotherapy). One of the largest benefits of a keto diet done properly is the reduction of inflammation throughout the body.
Where’s part 2? Or at least what’s the other condition that mimics what we know as adrenal fatigue? 🙏
Only thing i can think of is hpa axis dysfunction or chronic fatigue syndrome. They are all the same..
I think there will never be a part 2 sadly
The connection here made between dysautonomia and Adrenal fatigue, but also indirectly to the polyvagal theory was very insightful. The idea presented in his other videos that gut disorder can cause dysautonomia through thiamine deficiency and vice versa is invaluable if true. Due to the great detail on the biochemical level, it might just be accurate. Great thanks for the input.
Since there doesn't seem to be a second part to this video.. are you saying Elliot ' s new videos on Thiamine deficiency is actually what people mistake as Adrenal fatigue?
Progesterone is by far the best option for adrenal fatigue. The body uses progesterone to produce cortisol, epinephrine, norepinephrine etc. progesterone actually is anti estrogen at the right dosage and increase testosterone as well. It’s also a very calming hormone and a powerful neuro-steroid. Progesterone has literally saved my life and I’m a guy! No hormone is a female or male hormone. All hormones are made in both males and females but in different amounts. Many men have low progesterone and high estrogen. This causes a lot of issues. I take progesterone before bed each night and I have the best sleep in my life!
How do you know how much to take for a male? I have this issue (low P, high E) naturally and have been supplementing with high doses of pregnenolone. I would like to see if progesterone works better (in theory, it should 🤷♂️). Thanks
@@bc9086micheal platt says about 50 mgs on skin 1-3 mins before meals. Check out his book regarding adrenaline
Can you please tell me more? I’ve done tests and suspect as a woman I have low progesterone
@@anzajamaa5001 if your test confirm low P, using bio identical,5% USP cream can help. There are plenty vids on cream dosing. On the top of my head, ik women need way more than men. Men typically need about 25mgs daily for low p levels while women need 125mgs usually. I’m no professional; this is just info I’ve come across from others. Nonetheless, suspicion is not always the best driving force to create a treatment plan. It should drive you to continue testing. Perhaps your estrogen is high. P cream can help , but without confirmation on what imbalance persists,You’ll be running around in circles.
Transcortin. The most overlooked component to adrenal fatigue is the cortisol binding protein. Its why these patients will show low cortisol in serum but normal or high levels in urine. Their literally urinating away their cortisol. Their producing plenty of cortisol but the metabolism of unbound cortisol is so much quicker and way more bioactive so they end up on a huge rollercoaster of having the negative effects of low and high cortisol. Insulin is most likely the culprit since it will supress the transcortin synthesis when its present in high amounts. Insulin resistance allows the insulin to "sit around" for way too long supressing transcortins production at the liver. DHEA, berberine, Pregnenlone should help which as many of you know are commonly given to help with adrenal fatigue.
Progesterone is by far the best choice, even for men. The bio identical form of course. Progesterone is what is needed produce all the adrenal hormones. Pregenelone does too but the body turns it into progesterone which then the progesterone is used to make the hormones of the adrenals. The issue with pregenelone is that there is no guarantee it will be used in the desired way.
@@brentc4593any recommendations for progesterone for men (brand/starting dosage)? I’ve been taking 250mg nutricology pregnenolone each day and it’s working, just not as good as it could be due to it choosing it’s own path essentially. Thanks 🙏
Looking forward for part 2 !
Elliot… You're the best. Thank you for all the great information and all your videos
Even though Part 2 for this video never surfaced in case anyone is interested “steroidogenesis” is the name of the pathway Elliot was referring to.
Was the follow-up video ever released? Looking through all the videos on the channel doesn't turn up any likely matches. This is great information - would love to see Part 2.
Sorry for the late reply, the part 2 was not made yet. I have been side-tacked, but will make one shortly
@@EONutrition looking forward to part 2. It would be interesting to see you on the Danny Roddy podcast
@@EONutrition yes! Part 2 please!
@@EONutrition Me too!
@@EONutrition Hi Elliot, is there a part two about adrenal fatigue?
I will join some other commenters in requesting / needing the Part 2.
It would be especially interesting if you have any neuroendocrine connections / root causation for what manifests as adrenal fatigue (low Pregnenolone, low DHEA, and eventually low Cortisol - even if Adrenal capacity is unaffected).
I have been side tracked, but will make a video shortly (part 2)
@@EONutrition I am looking forward to Part 2. One of my family members suffers from HPA axis dysfunction. I believe it is due to injury to the hypothalamus (autoimmune and drug induced). She was hospitalized for intractable vomiting and they thought it was psychogenic (a rare eating disorder, ARFID); it turns out she has Celiac and Oral Allergy Syndrome. Unfortunately the 'treatment' she received at the hospital did more harm than good - she had a poor response to Olanzapine (which causes ER stress in the hypothalamus) and an adverse reaction to Reglan - this is on top of being forced to eat foods she is allergic to, which I believe only served to increase her level of autoimmunity and mast cell reactivity. I am interested in your take on 'adrenal fatigue' and how to fix it.
@@EONutrition I'm still waiting for it ;)
@@EONutritionshortly is now 5 years ago 😂😂😂. If you are too busy we understand that but please can you simple tell us here what your root cause for Low cortisol is? At least we can then look the rest up by our own.
Please share Part Two soon. Thank you for all your videos. They are very helpful
Looking forward for next video
It's never too late to make part two!!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🎥 Introduction to Adrenal Fatigue
04:11 ⚖️ Adrenal Glands and Stress Response
08:11 🔄 Phases of Adrenal Fatigue Model
10:38 🔄 Pregnenolone Steal Theory
12:12 ⚙️ Conventional View vs. Adrenal Fatigue
Made with HARPA AI
At the end he is talking about HPA Axis dysfunction which is what adrenal fatigue should be called. Hypothalmus-Pituatary-Adrenal (HPA) axis. After long term stress (from environment, emotional, physical) the cortisol feedback sensor (my word) is desensitized and doesn't know when to stop correctly. Products like Seriphos work great for this along with lactium.
Plus eatign right and controlling all stressors not just emotional ones.
Lol cpntrolling all stressors, how? I am lying in bed since 10 months after a crash me/CFS. Try to controll this emotionally, If you have no energy. I tested my corticoid-rezeptor and yes it is less sensitive, like in people with Depression, but only a bit, that does not explained that i have zero energy. If you "Rest" 10 months you are then annoyed of resting more, my Body gets more and more sensitive to Stress.
I've been looking for the part 2. Is it still coming?
yes we want part 2!!
That's what I was going to ask. I would love to hear Part 2 also.
2?
Deux??
Nummer Zwei?
Still hoping for a part 2 video soon!
Great info, Elliot, but was hoping to hear a solution to this problem of low hormones. What can be done about this? Can it be treated easily? How?
28-Jan-2022 and just watched this video from two years ago.
Please add a link to Part II when it's done. I also would like to know what the solution is to adrenal fatigue symptoms.
(I'll bet you will say sleep and sunlight!)
This is one of my favorite channels, excellent information! Thank you for this video.
I have a question regarding adrenal function. S. Cherniske in his Caffeine Blues cites studies showing that caffeine creates adrenal fatigue by stimulating cortisol release (for some people up to 18 hours after a single cup of coffee) and suppressing DHEA. Coffee also disrupts GABA metabolism and changes the normal function of adenosine receptors. I would really appreciate if you could comment on that.
Thanks again for your work!
Is green tea ok
@@nasaihwaifadate According to that book The Caffeine Blues, green tea is better than the coffee, this is how you are weaning off the coffee. But he wants us to quit the green tea eventually too.
Thanks for posting your comment! I've suspected for some time that my poor sleep, headaches, and fatigue were caused by the daily 40g dark 80% chocolate and therefore caffeine. Today, 28-Jan-2022, was day 1 of zero chocolate. 🤞
@@dianavp9054 tell us how it went and if you felt any difference
@@anastasiianowakowska9200 Today is 25-July-2022 and I'm still not able to quit dark chocolate. Thanks for your post, so I could revisit this. I'm so addicted to my dark chocolate, as it's the one decadence I can enjoy that doesn't cause immediate distress; but does still affect my sleep health. Wish I had good news about quitting. I have tried quitting it multiple times, successful for only a day or three, then getting right back to eating 1/2-1 bar a day.
Today is a good day to try again to quit. Moderation does not work for me. Abstenance is the key.
You mentioned “In the next video...” we would be looking more in to this, but I don’t see it. Did you ever make one?
While I'm not doubting that you could be correct on the theory of adrenal fatigue, I will say that I got a ton of good out of the doctor who told me about it and I will always say he was amazing and a great blessing to me. It seems likely that anyone who was told about that theory in anyway similar to my experience may have benefitted at least in some small ways, such as learning to rest and relax or meditate or just to get enough sleep.
3 years later and still waiting on part 2
Elliot didn't post any videos for 7 months. Hope part 2 is in the making.
Please release the second video. 🙏
I have chronic, internal stress from childhood trauma.
I can't find part 2, where is it!??
Now that is a cliffhanger haha
Lol!
why is it that when i take pregnenolone i feel great for a few days before quickly not being able to sleep and losing my libido... It does certainly appear as if all my pregnenolone IS being stolen and being converted into progesterone and cortisol rather than anything that might be more useful
Thanks Isaac and it has given me similar effects also and I have high cortisol already.
Thank you for the another gem. Always a pleasure to learn from you.
Thank you for another detailed and educative video!
You didn't think we'd be too exhausted to not request part 2, did you? Whatever it is called, I cannot tolerate stress whatsoever. Currently also suffering from post black mold toxicity and mast cell activation syndrome. I'm taking the thiamega but really haven't seen a difference. I do appreciate your hard work though 🙏
Hi Elliot whats up with part 2 of this video ?
Please I need part 2! :)
I searched for the "next video" and I couldn't find any :(
Do you have the follow up to this?
I think both is correct, pregnenolone steal is real and the hpa dysfunction are correct bc working on calming the nervous systems helped me get better to a point but pregnenolone also helped me, probably depends on the person and what exactly is going on.
Thank you for your research 💚
Thank you, great info!
What's the title of Part 2?
Hi Elliot, how are you doing with filming the next video on "Adrenal Fatigue" symptoms? I went on a 6-mile hike 2 days ago, and by the end of it adrenal fatigue symptoms had hit me like a ton of bricks. I've felt quite awful since then, still not recovering 2 days later. Too much head pain and nausea to sleep at night. I have James Wilson's book and have ordered another bottle of Solaray Adrenal Caps, but I'm looking forward to your next video with more up-to-date information. :)
Will do one shortly, sorry for the delay!
@@EONutrition Thank you so much for all of the great information that you share!! :)
Are you sure it wasn't Heat Exhaustion/dehydration?
EONutrition have you made one yet?.. looks like their is a strong need.
@@EONutrition was it done?
Hi Elliot,
can you please give us the information of part 2?
What are the real causes, the real connections?
I asked him too, i am sure we will never get an answer
This video brings very important information.
Can you not skip prednenalone by consuming DHEA? Especially if you are ER triple positive?
Did you ever make a part 2 of this video and tell viewers what can be done to help?? Thanks.
Is the second video out yet?
what a cliffhanger wating for part 2 😀
Thanks for the excellent content Elliot! :)
Superb presentation!
Where is the follow up video? I'm assuming you were referring to thiamine deficiency? Just started thiamine therapy for a couple weeks now
I was always perplexed by adrenal fatigue because one group of people were saying it wasnt real, but all of the "symptoms" of adrenal fatigue seemed to completely fit with me.
The symptoms are very real! But it can be more of an adaptation, rather than adrenal failure! I will make one soon!
@@EONutrition How is that follow-up video coming along? Really looking forward to it!
I think you might have to give up all caffeine like chocolate and coffee and even tea.
This great video was made 15 months ago, sadly, it appears part 2 won’t be coming along after all. I hope I am wrong about it.
It is next on my list. I have a had a busy year, and this is a complex topic! But in all honesty, I will have something together soon
@@EONutrition im keen to see it i cant get enough of these videos atm. Thankfully your just like marek my nutrition doc in London and im learning after my oats test. 😁
@@bronwenmakepeace8682 how did you find your oats test??
@@cherylmcduff5388 fantastic best thing i ever did. I got it through my functional doctor at great plains lab in London
@@bronwenmakepeace8682 i have heard about it. has it shown up nutritional deficiencies etc and have you been able to fix them
Second part of this video please. Please and thank you.
If DHEA opposes the catabolic Cortisol will DHEA supplements then be anabolic in effect?
Yes, DHEA is an anabolic hormone, and it (or derivatives of it) are therefore used for illicit performance enhancing purposes. Depending on your health condition, supplementing with it can be tricky, and unfortunately most supplement dosages available are too / very high.
Thankfully, it is still available as a supplement in the USA, so that well informed people suffering from related conditions can benefit, regardless of the ignorance of one's doctor(s).
Where is part 2?!!
Thanks for the video. Interesting.
I have used pregnenolone at a rate of 50mg a week and I have completely lost libido and I feel depressed, what could have happened? I did a before and after test and almost all my hormones have plummeted
Is the answer dysautinomia due to thiamine deficiency?
Excellent video, thank you!!
Thx waiting for more info👍
This appears to be an empty debunking. I would like to trust the source, as he clearly knows his science and can communicate it well, but no actual evidence was shown and there is no part 2, dozens of videos later.
References and links here: www.eonutrition.co.uk/post/adrenal-fatigue-is-a-brain-based-disorder-and-pregnenelone-steal-is-a-myth
Next video up shortly
This channel is awesome. Thanks EONutrition!
Thank you 🙏.
Fantastic channel
Oh, Elliott. You are such a tease.
adrenal fatigue is nothing else than hypothyroidism, you need active thyroid hormones to produce all the steroid hormones, if you like me in the past, think that you have adrenal fatigue/hpa axis dysfunction, i suggest you go to raypeat forum and educate your self about metabolism and thyroid. Good luck.
Look at these comments Eliot! People are waiting for part 2!
Next video released yet?
interesting pov. how do you fix adrenal fatigue tho? :'(
@Rupert Hawthorne I don't drink caffeine
@Rupert Hawthorne thanks I do the wim hof method for breathing I think it's great. And recently been experimenting with different b vitamins I think that has been helping too.
@Rupert Hawthorne People with 'adrenal fatigue' are very, very ill. I have a family member suffering from this and she has never had a cup of coffee in her life. Your dismissive remarks are offensive.
T3 resistance cell and nervous tissues. That is the answer
Then why is my pregnenolone so low?
Was a follow up video ever made ?
No
Hi what is the next follow on video called?
Part 2??
Thank you brother
I believe the cause is low DHEA and other deficiencies like B vitamins.
Could be!
That's not a cause. That's an association.
There will probably be nothing more to continued because he has probably realized that he was wrong. After 5 years without an update, the topic is probably over. I By the way, I am very sure that adrenal fatigue exists. How else would the lack of energy and the low cortisol levels in the saliva arise?
Where do I find part two?
I think it's a 2-yr test, so don't stress while waiting for Part 2. - Haha
I'm guessing the answer will be that by reducing stress, thus reducing cortisol, other hormones will regulate. How to accomplish reduced stress/cortisol will be sleep, meditation, and circadian sunlight. 😊
Bro what’s the diet. Ray peat?
Where is Part 2 ? My cortisol is going up!
Is Elliot back? I want to know what is the matter with my regular low salt...maybe slowly improving but basically my mineralcorticoid are stuck somewhere and some of the enzymes not properly working. I often have potassium at the higher end without effort and had to eat a lot of salt to feel good (also salt on lower end or under range. This struck me as I am the opposite of what most have. Could this be thiamine deficiency?
Where is part 2?
Part 2?
So then, if your MD gave you a saliva cortisol test and your levels were below baseline, then what? You didn't seem obligated to say just exactly what is to be done when cortisol levels are low. Okay, adrenal fatigue is a myth, let's move on from there and correct some problems.
@@trevorkroemer most salivary cortisol tests fo 4-6 tests during the day and they request it be a normal day and not to use caffeine. So those objections are built into the test.
Adaptogen herb supplement was recommended. At the time were overly strong and couldn't take but seem to help some now without feeling so wierd from
Was wondering what the link is for part 2?
So there is condition similar to adrenal fatigue and has similar symptoms and causes but it’s not due to lack of building material and overuse of cortisol.Sure mate if you don’t see it I won’t explain
Thats correct. In most cases, it is an adaptation - where the body functionally reduces cortisol output for a specific reason
I totally agree
Lol a very interesting way to teach about lower stress hormones is to say the “what to do about it” will be coming in part 2, and yet........
I love your videos but I await the part 2 with anticipation.
WTF EONutrition, why don't you just tell all the people asking what this goddamn mystery problem is called, instead of "I got sidetracked"... fuckin' hell. What a waste of time.
thanks for the videos sir
What role does Insulin Resistance and Pre-diabetes have in these issues?
I'm pretty sure it's low thyroid hormone that does it
False hope for part 2 ? :/
Part 2? come on...its bad practice to tell your audience you'll do something and then you don't. Obviously they're asking for it. Give your people what they're asking for 😁
Let me guess, it’s in the Thiamine glands?
I got a bovine supplement is that goof?
Yes Bovine colostrum is very beneficial.
Did it help you? I couldn't tell myself. Some have implied they might be dangerous, eating part of another species's nervous system (prions), wildly different hormonal status. Just my 2cents
@@thomas-ud1fs yes it did but I was also taking foliate and ashgawanda. So that combo I think made a huge diff. I’d abuse my body for many years so it took its toll on all my systems
@@thomas-ud1fs I feel you tho about the animal extract ewww
@@krieg-thewarwithin6040 How long did it take and what product were you using?...I tried some but didn't notice a difference. I was given hydrocortisone in the past for this and the difference was immediate, then 6 months later went off and didn't have to take anymore. It's been ten years and symptoms are back and can't find a new source of HC. It sucks, but I guess I'll go back on the adrenal supplement and hope for the best.
Very interesting very annoying too, the video cut it self off at the end
Thanks
Receptors. Most cause is an infection
I somewhat agree!
is thiamine good for this
I wonder about that too. Hope there will be a part 2
Hypothyroidism!!!!