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Upgraded Two Trees TTC 450 CNC Machine first run
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- First job for my upgraded Two Trees TTC 450 CNC Machine
The pendant was generated by artificial intelligence and converted by me into a CNC program
...9 hours in work 🤪
TTC-450 Photo Album: photos.app.goo...
00:00 Intro
00:30 Comparison (Original vs Modified)
00:58 GRBL firmware Settings
01:28 Home Position
02:41 Preparations
07:54 Zero Position
09:24 Starting
11:29 Processing
23:19 Cut out
43:40 The Result
43:40 The Result
#cnc #woodworking #diy
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Crazy, I just finished my TTC 450 mods a week ago and love the newfound rigidity and accuracy. However, I mostly care about aluminum and carbon fiber. I didn't use linear rails on the Y axis yet, but still may. I'm waiting to see if it is worthwhile.
With a 1.5KW spindle and linear rails, the machine definitely gets substantially better. I measured 1/10th of the deflection the original had with about 1KG force.
Happy milling!
Interesting. Why is the 1,5kw spindle better? Is it just power and rpm? Or is stiffer and maybe not that noisy?
What else do you need for it? Is there a link or a kind of "shopping list" in a facebookgroup or similar?
@SoaringExperience it's not necessary, but it's a HUGE improvement. It does everything you mentioned, but don't think of it as "needed". A trim router works great. My spindle and VFD was just an $300 Amazon kit. It's so much nicer to work with on just the noise and speeds alone. Since it's not a machine I'd run unattended for more than a few minutes, so I went with an air cooled spindle. Water cooling would be overkill for my application.
Thanks for the long answer (i Like that :) ).
What do you mean by "It's so much nicer to work with on just the noise and speeds alone" Sorry I am not an english native speaker :)
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@SoaringExperience Sorry, I could have worded that better. But what I meant was, it's much much smoother running and quieter. That alone might be worth the extra $200, but it also has very accurate speed control and, in some cases, higher maximum speeds. So those two aspects alone are worth it for me. But it also has much more torque, which seems to bail me out when I get a little too aggressive with feeds and speeds. Lots of positives, but honestly they are all luxuries. My $50 trim router cut aluminum and brass almost as well, but had a little more runout and a lot more noise. Also, the speeds were a guesstimation on the trim router, whereas the spindle has accurate speed control.
Original TTC- 450 Machine STEP file and Viewer: autode.sk/3La4nWM
P.S. Some of dimensions can be wrong.. 🤪 but mostly should be fine 😄👍
Vielen Vielen Dank! damit hast du mir richtig viel arbeit abgenommen :P !
Hi, the file is missing? 😞
@@jonnasanti link is expired. All files for
TTC450 is here
disk.yandex.ru/d/q5rXIguhThlySw
First of all, big praise for the many great clips that really helped me get started with the CNC hobby and mod my TTC450 too.
I'm also thinking about getting a 1.5 kW China spindle air-cooled Er20. However, there is one and the same spindle with a so-called aviation plug or with a juction box. The latter version is almost €50 more expensive. What would be recommended or better?
Mine is an er11 and without an aviation connector. I am not an expert on spindles, my choice fell only on price and power
Very nice, shame about the split in the wood though.
Was the upgrade to the rails hard to do? Thinking of getting a ttc450, but haven't reada lot of good reviews, but if itcould be upgraded fairly easy,, ill get one!
Not too hard, but it an extra money and time... Still have an issue with EMI from Spindle when it starts/stops or random... 😞 I've bought ferrite filters, but not tried yet..
Thank you. I've been running around looking at a lot of different ones, and almost wrote this one off. My be i'll just get a tt450 and try it out'
Hi Andrey; as someone said, impressive mod and results! Congratulations and thanks for sharing details!
I have noticed you have made several iterations of improvements. Considering original TTC450 as 100%, can you make a rough estimation of improvement in rigidity / working capability after each change? I don't expect precision but rather your impression after each change; better - how much better?
On another point; I have noticed the lead screws do not have a fixed point in frame - axially I mean. They are floating both in frame's ball bearing and in motor bearings where they seem to have rotor wave washer pre-tensioning. This gives kind of 0.3 movement back and forth, so a noticeable play (backlash) when thinking of machining aluminium. How have you dealt with it?
My backslash is minimum now. You can join to Discord. I publishing some photos and files there discord.gg/ynHCkrsmMA
That is nice. Good review on the CNC. What did you upgrade?
I changed a lot. more in Google Photos or in my Discord Channel. photos.app.goo.gl/AtB5M3U7ixFz48iRA
discord.gg/ynHCkrsmMA
в какой программе лучше всего работать
Я делал в ArtCam 2012. Постпроцессор выложил на диск (TTC450_mm.con). disk.yandex.ru/d/q5rXIguhThlySw
Thanks for this video! You gaved me idea how to make my ttc more accurate and stable 😊
Did you have to change driver to switch nema 17 on Y to nema 23 ?
Yep, I use external drivers DM556s, original drivers max current is around 2A with additional cooling, and PSU is only 5A. Additional info discord.gg/ynHCkrsmMA
@@VAZHURERACING Damn! Your DC is a holy grail ;D thanks
can you descripe how you generate and create the relief? Wicht software you use?
Relief can be created in ArtCam or Vectric Aspire. I use old version of ArtCAM 2018.. Initially I create vectors from picture (I use AI sites to generate image, for example "fox wooden pendant"), then extrude surface. Toolpath also can be created in ArtCAM/Vectric. This fox was created in my own Graphics editor. Here is some files I used in this project disk.yandex.ru/d/6diXM2_3MOPUjg
@@VAZHURERACING sarebbe bello se riesci a fare un video tutorial su come si fa tutto il processo, da come si usa AI per generare le immagini e come usare poi Artcam, sono un principiante
Hey.
what program do you use to control the milling machine? by chance candle?
nope...gSender v1.2.2 (in light mode for my old laptop). it's free.. Much better app. Allows to reconnect and continue g-code from line. Also you can Jog by any Joystick
can you tell me what i have to set so that i can connect it to my ttc450? I am a Beginner.
@@1992notorious grbl and com port. Better to watch some videos, or u can ask me to record a video tutorial next week
@@VAZHURERACING yes that was the best way , when you make a Video. does this possibly also work with estlcam controll?
nice! was looking for upgrade examples for ttc450.
do you got a thingiverse page with the 3d printable parts u used?
or do you share them somewhere else maybe?
have the same linear rails coming in a few days but still figuring out how to connect the z slide carriage to the x axis rod ....
and saw you used a printed part for that! would love to view the file so i may remix it to fit the original carriage.
already have made a remixed makita holder which should fit the backplate of ttc450 which i will share on thingiverse after testing. (still printing atm).
Hi! all files (STL, STEP, PDF) is here disk.yandex.ru/d/q5rXIguhThlySw
Hi, I just bought TTC450 a week ago, I wonder can you show how to design the pendant and how to convert it into CNC program?
I used services to generate images using AI (Stable Diffusion XL). In the request, I asked to generate a pendant in desired style in grayscale heightmap. Then I traced the contours in a vector editor or used the image directly (pixel brightness = height). And AI is very productive in this regard, he can easily replace a jewelry designer, or just make his work easier. Programs like ArtCam (Vectric, etc.) allow you to create an operation for 3D relief and other operations and generate G-code for a CNC.
Nice Mod :) could u please so kind an provide links to the spindle and z-axis you're using ? thx a lot! J.
z-azis SFU1204 for NEMA23 / 100mm aliexpress.ru/item/1005005713892592.html?spm=a2g2w.orderdetail.0.0.2f1d4aa6poyCRj&sku_id=12000034094393326
1.5kW Spindle + Inverter 220V EU Kit
aliexpress.ru/item/1005001981714428.html?sku_id=12000018304082217&spm=a2g2w.stores.search_results.8.73bd66ddUk8OBC
Ciao Andrey, volevo chiederti quali migliorie porta la sostituzione delle guide a ricircolo di sfere, pe rrsempio riesci ad andare molto più veloce nell'avanzamento del pezzo? Immagino che la precisione sia notevolmente aumentata grazie in anticipo della risposta
Ciao! Le guide aggiungono morbidezza e mancanza di ondulazione.Inoltre aggiungono rigidità al design. La velocità è la stessa, perché le viti T8 non lo consentono.
@@VAZHURERACING grazie della risposta, quindi la modifica serve se vuoi fare intarsi precisi, 3d andando un po' più spedito, ma l'avanzamento nel pezzo resta uguale alla fine conviene fare la modifica ora non lo più😅
did you leave all nema 17 engines as they were?
Or did you use stronger ones? I wonder if the nema 17s won't get too hot and lose steps.
I also have a question about the new z-axis build. I noticed that you used 1204 Ballscrew or large ones. Did you have to change anything in the software?
All motors are original, yep 1204, same steps. I have nema 23 too, and plan to install in the future. All motors are cold.
Here is a screenshots with the settings
disk.yandex.ru/d/q5rXIguhThlySw
шаговые двигатели не меняли
хочу заказать ttc450 и шпиндель на 1.5 квт
нужно будет менять крепление z оси?
Не менял, но уже купил Nema 23 вместо 17х. Да, крепление надо менять, шпиндель 3.5 кг, тяжелый. можно глянуть в альбоме. На валах ось гуляет, купил вторую на квадратных рельсах. photos.app.goo.gl/AtB5M3U7ixFz48iRA
а как себя показал шпиндель на 500 вт
какая подача и глубина реза доски
@@asedased8501 тяжеловато ему, они лукавят, там нет 500 вт походу.. покусывает... максимум 11600 RPM без нагрузки я замерял
@@asedased8501 Максимально я резал 800 мм/мин глубина на черновую 1.9 мм на твердых породах. Можно экспериментировать
What did you totally spent in extra money? Impressive mod
+350-400 euro, maybe more:
Z-Axis linear module 7852 rub (78.52 euro)
HRG15 Rails and carets 8256 rub (82.56 euro)
1.5kW Spindle + Inverter 14516 rub (145.16 euro)
+ screws, aluminium plates, good quality collets and tools, 3d printed parts
unused:
Z axis on optical shafts 5002 rub (50.02 euro)
500W spindle 5726 rub (57.26 euro)
@@VAZHURERACING
Interesting. Why is the 1,5kw spindle better? Is it just power and rpm? Or is it as well stiffer (less play -> better results) and maybe not that noisy?
What else do you need for it? Is there a link or a kind of "shopping list"?
ACME screws have not been changed???
Not, only t8 nut on X axis
Can I have your email please? I have a few questions and it will be easier for us to communicate
discord.gg/qfj74ZaTVb