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Комментарии • 52

  • @sharonkafwanka6005
    @sharonkafwanka6005 7 месяцев назад +18

    Please pray for me to come out of social media addiction so that I only concentrate on watching what can help me to grow spiritually

    • @brennancumberbatch1571
      @brennancumberbatch1571 7 месяцев назад +1

      Amen

    • @verdadabsoluta9756
      @verdadabsoluta9756 7 месяцев назад

      Matthew 18:9 If your eye causes you to stumble and sin, pluck it out and throw it away from you [that is, remove yourself from the source of temptation]; it is better for you to enter life with only one eye, than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fiery hell.

    • @Shaka868
      @Shaka868 7 месяцев назад

      I found that making that step in deleting the app helps so so much followed by prayer. I volunteer my time to pray for you.

    • @SoundingTrumpetMedia
      @SoundingTrumpetMedia 7 месяцев назад

      I would recommend an app blocker that you can set to help you manage your time on social media - that is if time is a factor.
      Otherwise, if it's content related, you can unsubscribe from channels that feed your addiction and remove unwanted videos from your history. That way you can train the algorithm to recommend more appropriate content.

  • @maxjnb4816
    @maxjnb4816 7 месяцев назад +23

    I believe that this question is based on common sense. First, as Pastor Bohr stated, we must understand that God is our protector. With that said, I think we must understand that it is NOT a sin to own a gun. The Commandment says, "thou shall not murder." If you and your family encounter a home invasion, God would expect you to apply common sense to protect your family. Sure, life is precious and should be preserved. Jesus paid an awesome price for our souls and this can't be regarded lightly. There's no comparison with a life and a flat screen t.v. However, if evil comes into your home to kill and destroy, I believe that would be an appropriate time to exterminate the evil. Regarding, protecting country property, when we come to that point, no sealed servants of God will be thinking about self defense or defending their temporal property because we are looking forward to the glorious land. The wise man said,
    KJV Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
    1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
    2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
    3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
    4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
    5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
    6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
    7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
    8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
    God bless.

  • @beatricenjeri740
    @beatricenjeri740 7 месяцев назад +5

    I can’t sleep any single day without visiting this channel or 3 ABN tv channel. You guys have moulded me very well and equipped me with the true gospel.

    • @dianechapmanbettyboop
      @dianechapmanbettyboop 7 месяцев назад

      You also can listen to Pastor Bohr’s sermons that are on RUclips, he is a wonderful speaker and Pastor. You will learn so much as I have. He is the best

  • @robertaj3767
    @robertaj3767 7 месяцев назад +6

    In the book of Esther, God’s people were allowed to defend themselves. As well as other times in the Old Testament. God‘s protection was amplified in His people defending themselves and eliminating enemies

    • @vaio4908
      @vaio4908 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, that is true, but that was because God told them to do that. And still that was not to defend themselves, but to execute Gods judgements. God was their defender. Every time when they trusted their weapons and army lost every single battle. When they put their trust in Him, they defeated their enemies even only if they were to scream. Sometimes they did not had to do anything at all, 2 Chronicles 20. Peter had a sword and Jesus did not forbade him, but when he used, He taught him a precious lesson. He never bore a sword again and learned to accept all that came from Gods hands, he chose a life of total devotion.

  • @valerieschad8069
    @valerieschad8069 7 месяцев назад

    This is so helpful and I appreciate this program so much! Thank you for your study of the questions. I praise God for helping you know what He wants you to say for counsel!

  • @michellemullett4293
    @michellemullett4293 7 месяцев назад +17

    I very much respect and appreciate the both of you and your wisdom but I question the fact of being able to defend my family.. yes if someone threatens me or robs me, that’s one thing but if they are armed and is about to harm or kill myself or one of my children, I feel that I should be able to defend myself, I’d b praying the whole time of course n would not want this to b the outcome but as a last resort, idk, I’m just not sure about this one

    • @vaio4908
      @vaio4908 7 месяцев назад +2

      It is indeed very difficult to take a position regarding defending your family. Nevertheless we need to ask the Holy Spirit to lead us. I am thinking about all the martyr families thrown to the wild beasts during the Roman persecution, they did not took up arms to defend themselves. Also the Waldensians, who suffered the same fate. Then on the other side , you see David bearing weapons, and Abraham and many more, but those were different times, they lived under theocracy.

    • @michellemullett4293
      @michellemullett4293 7 месяцев назад

      @@vaio4908 yah that is a tough one
      I don’t own a firearm but I wonder sometimes , being a single mother if having one for protection wouldn’t b wise?! Just not sure

    • @vaio4908
      @vaio4908 7 месяцев назад

      @@michellemullett4293 I was thinking about that also in the past, but I let that idea pass from me. The promise is given that if we are doing God's will, He will guide our steps all our lives. We are living a devoted life, a life of full surrender to God. Then if God is our guide, everything that happens in our lives is because He allows that to happen and with every trial there is a way of escape. If I will buy a gun to protect myself, I think that I am not trusting Him that much, that He is not leading me, my safe being will be when my weapon is with me, then I will feel safe, and that is not Gods will. Many times Jesus get into situations where His life was in danger, yet God made a was of escape from Him, and the same was with the apostles. Until He says that our work here below ended and we have to lay down to rest.
      Another thought is if I own a weapon, then I will have to use it. I need to practice shooting and that will cost money and time, which could be better used for Gods cause. Then, I would have to purchase a safe box so my kids wont have access to it. Then I have to carry it with me, even to the church. The thought of letting it laying around by mistake, would terrify me. Peter had a sword with Him, and when you carry a weapon one have to use it. He cut a ear off, Jesus told him put the sword back and taught Peter a lesson. Matthew 26:51-53 KJV
      And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear. [52] Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. [53] Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
      I think that it better not to own a gun, unless you live in an area where wilde animals live, and even then is a hard decision to make. When I go on vacation to my brothers place, there are a lot of bears and wild hogs, yet not many people own a weapon. But they all have at least one dog. The best is to have two or more. One little one, to give the alarm and because they are brave and one big one to scare off by their size.

    • @darrellstrait309
      @darrellstrait309 7 месяцев назад +2

      Jesus never used a weapon for self-defense. He came to this earth to die for our salvation. Jesus depended on His Father for food, shelter, and protection. God puts His protective hedge about us and no one can harm us unless God allows it to happen.
      I spent 15 years involved in self-defense classes and martial arts before I realized that Jesus is my Savior, not me.

  • @beezknees4339
    @beezknees4339 7 месяцев назад +2

    I personally don't think we should have guns, as Christians. We are told to trust in God to protect us

  • @dwblacky
    @dwblacky 7 месяцев назад +6

    Guns are a tool, many don't believe we should have them.. when I lived in a country setting there were certain animals that were dangerous to be around. My sister not being fully cognitive she was trying to get close to a badger. Which can be a dangerous animal. In that instance I did not hesitate to shoot it. Certainly we must depend on heavenly angels and God's protection to keep us safe. The use and possession of guns are an individual choice. What may be right with me may not apply to you...Blessings

  • @danielschultz2820
    @danielschultz2820 7 месяцев назад +2

    But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. Matthew 24:43

  • @HCD1906
    @HCD1906 7 месяцев назад +6

    I value this discussion and appreciate both of your inputs in this manner.
    I grew up in the country a farm. Guns were a tool for us, food and protection for wild creatures.
    What about the Words of
    Our Savior Jesus
    Luke 22:35 to 38
    and
    1 Peter 5:8
    I live close to where a man possessed by satan killed 26 people & wounded 22 in church at Southern Springs
    I am responsible for the safety of the members
    Yes God First
    Praying for no issues
    If it should I pray that The Father gives me a clear mind to make his choice at that time.
    Blessing Brothers

    • @howardloewen1834
      @howardloewen1834 7 месяцев назад

      On Luke 22 Jesus would not contradict Himself He told Peter he did the wrong thing in cutting the ear off. It is enough of this kind of talk.

  • @shafeckbrown496
    @shafeckbrown496 7 месяцев назад +1

    What actions to take against someone who decides to hurt your family(not to rob things but to destroy life)?

  • @johngalt4657
    @johngalt4657 5 месяцев назад

    The Lord God NEVER told either David or others to take their swords away.

  • @TheHolyAvatior
    @TheHolyAvatior 7 месяцев назад +6

    Guns don’t protect us only God can. We have to trust God completely. Jesus never carried a sword and He was protected completely by heavenly powers.

  • @shawnshields4522
    @shawnshields4522 7 месяцев назад +1

    For those who own guns, it is important to keep in mind that most laws do not permit using a gun for the protection of property. Also, if you do use the gun, you will need to be able to show that it was your last option or you may found guilty of a crime. For example, you can't shoot someone legally in your yard if you didn't try retreating to your house, if it was an option. If one buys a gun to protect property from humans, that is a legally dangerous idea.

    • @shawnshields4522
      @shawnshields4522 7 месяцев назад

      One who owns a gun needs to be ready to treat it as responsibly as a policemen would. Policemen are not to shoot unless life is imminently threatened.

  • @nicholastoo858
    @nicholastoo858 7 месяцев назад +1

    How do you explain Abraham getting back his nephew?

  • @rogerace4707
    @rogerace4707 7 месяцев назад

    Maybe the healing of the blind men healed in different ways was to show us there is more than 1 way for people to be healed.

  • @shafeckbrown496
    @shafeckbrown496 7 месяцев назад

    What is inclusive/strict reckoning and which of the 2 gospel writers mentioned used which?

  • @mauricemcmahon536
    @mauricemcmahon536 7 месяцев назад

    Regarding the methods of healing. I believe that Jesus used different methods to show the need for being lead by the Holy Spirit as opposed to just following specific patterns or formula. Remember that the Word says as many as are lead by the Spirit are the sons of God. If he used only one method then if he should choose to use someone in a different way, then the person would be labeled as a false servant/prophet.

  • @rogerace4707
    @rogerace4707 7 месяцев назад

    The marching around Jericho
    For seven days. Etc. It doesn't mean 7 days in a row. Being they kept the Sabbath I'm sure the rested on the Sabbath.
    Doesn't that make sence?

    • @SoundingTrumpetMedia
      @SoundingTrumpetMedia 7 месяцев назад

      Interesting thought, but there is no biblical indication that is the case.

  • @wbsc4006
    @wbsc4006 7 месяцев назад

    02:33-06:42 - I have recently had certain medical information, observed experiences (in fact, just a day before I viewed this video), as well as personal experience in regards to cataracts and its remedial surgery which have all come to help give me what I see to be the most logical/natural understanding in regards to this issue.
    First of all, there are various eye conditions which may cause a person not to see, pointedly if/as they become more acute/severe. Developing cataracts is one of them. I wouldn’t think that people in Bible times would know/understand that medical nuance of conditions and so they just deemed every with eye condition where a person could no longer see as “blindness”...But, on the other hand, Jesus, through the Revelation of God the Father, both Master “Scientist/Doctors”, knew and understood those nuances...And so, just as there are different medical interventions to remedy each of these distinct “blindness” causing eye conditions, God inpsired Jesus to use a different method to heal what most likely had been varying causes of “blindness” in those 4 people. So to me, that is why Jesus used 4 different methods, to, knowingly/signally, represent each of those varying causes/conditions. The end result of course is all been able to see again...
    In regards to the “double healing” of the “blind” man in Mark 8:22-26, just yesterday I was checking up with a family member who had had cataract surgery the day before. They said that they could see better, but that their vision was a little blurry....Since I myself had had cataract surgery (at 44) but had had no issues at all of blurry vision afterwards, I became concerned and so looked up on line what could be the issue here...I then came across information that said that ‘it was actually normal to have blurry vision in the days, even weeks after cataracts surgery, and that it should eventually clear up’...
    Well all that info and experience then helped me to surmise what may have occurred with that “blind” man in Mark 8:22-26....Given that no further details/explanations are given in the Bible, nor SOP, I would indeed surmise that he too actually had cataracts...and it had become so severe that he could not see, and so was summarily deemed to be “blind”...Well Jesus first healed his cataract issue...and/but then, as Jesus then actually knowingly [immediately] “followed up” on him, (just as a ophthalmologist today would do follow ups with his cataract surgery patient), by quite uniquely asking him: “Do you see anything?” [I.e. something that he is never recorded as asking in any of the other 3 (gospels-recorded) “blindness” healing miracles]. Well it seems that this man actually suffered from the subsequent effect of having blurry vision post “intervention”. Indeed seeing “men like trees” is seeing the shape of people but not focusedly/detailedly = blurrily). And so when Jesus had ascertain that this normative “post-op” condition was the case for him, He immediately proceeded to do, what would actually be a second distinct miracle, to supernaturally = immediately resolve that blurriness issue so that the man could immediate see clearly rather than “naturally” waiting a few days/weeks for the blurriness to clear up on its own...
    So I see that Jesus had knowing reasons to proceed this way in, (also fully), healing cases of “blindness” and this was possibly done so just to signal to a future, more medically informed/capable, generation such as ours, that He actually always fully understood what was scientifically/medically (distinctly) going on in those cases....

  • @TheHolyAvatior
    @TheHolyAvatior 7 месяцев назад +1

    Jesus can do whatever He wants! Sometimes He does what He does. We can’t always explain all He does and it’s not written in the Bible. We just have to believe and trust.

  • @ivonlopez3792
    @ivonlopez3792 7 месяцев назад

    thank you

  • @keishonisreal
    @keishonisreal 5 месяцев назад

    I believe we don't need weapons at all for any kind of situation we are in. no matter if there is an animal threatening your life or human. The power of Jesus is living and as God stated in Genesis we must subdue and have dominion over the animals, so I believe if you have faith like Jesus you will be able to rebuke any evil spirits in an animal trying to harm you, likewise with any human trying to harm you. If you die in the process you did your part and displayed the action of love, and if God didn't want you to die the thing trying to harm you will heed your voice and heed instruction.

  • @emmaroche5904
    @emmaroche5904 7 месяцев назад

    God bless

  • @kenvin996
    @kenvin996 7 месяцев назад

    I think in Christ object lesson e g white talks about the methods Jesus used to heal. If not Christ object lesson it was desire of ages.

  • @lwallace3842
    @lwallace3842 7 месяцев назад

    David was a Christian but he killed using a sword. He did it in war however he didn’t toward normally. I guess that would be about the same for using a gun?

  • @tiger7777
    @tiger7777 7 месяцев назад +3

    There is a text saying God is the same God yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Arms were in the past the order of God, the same God. Opinion is not a biblical lesson. The Bible is not being quoted here. To defend the intruder and not your family is ridiculous!!!! Pastor Bohr gets an F on what came out of his mouth on this subject!!!! Really, Pastor Bohr, according to your statement you believe in sacrifice of your wife and defend the intruder. There is no quality of qualification in what Stephen Bohr said in regard to the entirety of the Holy Word of God concerning defending self and family. David, a man after God's own heart, killed Goliath and murdered Bathsheba's husband. What about WW2? Would Pastor Bohr defend Hitler? I don't own a gun personally. Hopefully God honors that but a coyote was hit by a vehicle a week ago and was paralyzed in the rear and l had to ask someone else to put it out of it's misery. It suffered almost 24hrs. Poor animals you say.

    • @hanneamanda2489
      @hanneamanda2489 7 месяцев назад +1

      Stephen, Paul, Peter and so many others put their trust in God, not in their own judgment of who should deserve to live or not (me or my enemy?). Job did nor take revenge neither. Jesus told us:
      "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matt. 5:39-48)
      "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." (Matt. 5:21-22)

    • @wesp5685
      @wesp5685 7 месяцев назад +1

      “We have to be very well armed in passing through the Indian territory. We have our wagons brought up in a circle, then our horses are placed within the circle. We have two men to watch. They carry their guns upon their shoulders. - Lt 20a, May 3, 1879, par. 7
      "This morning we designed to go to Central City. We purposed to take dinner on the way by the roadside. As we were preparing to start, the horses were found missing. Five horses of Mr. Walling's were missing; also his cow. It was thought the Indians might have stolen the horses. Mr. Walling threw off his coat, armed himself with two revolvers and a bowie knife, and in company with one of his men started on horseback to find the horses. About two o'clock Mr. Walling came back, having found his horses and cow. " - 3MR 157.2 (July 30, 1872)

    • @SoundingTrumpetMedia
      @SoundingTrumpetMedia 7 месяцев назад

      Edit: I mixed up Abigail and Bathsheba for some strange reason. I've left the comment below for continuity.
      @tiger7777, just as a matter of correction, Nabal (Bathsheba's husband) was not murdered. David intended to kill him, but Nabal died from other causes.
      Apart from that, it is impossible to deny the account of various biblical characters arming themselves for self-defence, let alone God-ordained war.

    • @wesp5685
      @wesp5685 7 месяцев назад

      As I proved earlier Ellen White didn't have any problems with defending herself and her companions even with the guns. As S.Bohr loves to quote her, he'd do better to to check first what she said about it (as he did in case of alleging of E.G.White taking vaccines), befor jumping to unbiblical conclusions that God fobids Christians of defending themselves and their koved ones. @@SoundingTrumpetMedia

    • @RangerPhantomSAS
      @RangerPhantomSAS 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@SoundingTrumpetMediaUriah was Bathsheba's husband. Your thinking of David's wife Abigail, her husband was Nabal.

  • @Simon-Simon-Simon
    @Simon-Simon-Simon 7 месяцев назад

    No GUNS FOR ISRAEL ?