IIRC the FED 210 non match and CCI 250 had almost identical numbers in the primer test video. I'm using the Fed 210 non match exclusively now. Maybe you'll find the 210s a little more consistent over various powders. I see no need for match primers by federal any longer. The CCI 250s seem best in compressed loads of H4350 but not much better than 210s.
This parallels my testing and development of loads using RL17 in 6.5CM. Horrible consistency and accuracy with junk ES and SD regardless of primer used. RL16 has given me much better ES, SD, and Accuracy, especially when using Rem7-1/2, GM205M, and GM210M. I've not had any luck finding decently consistent loads with any CCI primers in any calibers, even their BR2 and BR4, and especially not their standard or magnum non-match primers. I've always had best accuracy and consistency using the 3 above mentioned primers in my loads, followed by the plain Winchester rifle primers in both small and large sizes. Look forward to the next batch of testing. Edit: Maybe try the GM215M primer if you feel the need to run a mag primer. I've not used them in 10+ years since I sold my 300Kong, but they provided the best accuracy for me in that cartridge when I was using it in F-Class matches.
Bolt Action Reloading look forward to it. I don’t neck turn much except for my 22PPC and 6PPC as they are tight necked chambers. I will do some lots of junk brass that have more than .002” neck wall differences if they are for precision use, but most of my brass has been .001” or less recently, and junk brass is usually relegated to range use or break in function.
Bolt Action Reloading look forward to it. I don’t neck turn much except for my 22PPC and 6PPC as they are tight necked chambers. I will do some lots of junk brass that have more than .002” neck wall differences if they are for precision use, but most of my brass has been .001” or less recently, and junk brass is usually relegated to range use or break in function.
Great vid. Just subscribed and find your videos very informative thank you. I have an inquiry for a possible load test. Using the new vhitavouri 565 with 140eldm and 142smk. Also seat 0.004" off the lands with fed210m primers hornady cases. I think that would bring some interest. Cheers
Vhitavouri list load data on their website for 140gr bullets. They also state that the 565 is extreme temp insensitive. Which to my curiousity would be cool to try with cold ammunition and hot also it shows very decent speeds. Im in process to order it so maybe you can get it faster in your area
I have honestly been trying to think of a good test protocol to do temp tests, but not sure how to guarantee a reliable, repeatable, not to expensive way of doing it. Glad to listen to any ideas.
If you are interested i have alot a data on some tests i have done on hybrid 100v and built an entire chart based on it. If you are interested dcrossla@hotmail.com
I found your channel recently and have enjoyed your content. I have one comment however; I find that you're verbally describing the load data, out of order with the written text on screen. I find myself trying to find the text on my screen that corresponds with what you are saying. And the effect is that I get lost trying to match your verbal description with the screen text. It would be nice if you followed the order of the text on the screen, making it easier to follow the message. Anyway, lots of good info otherwise!
I appreciate the feedback but honestly don't understand. I always start at the lowest charge and go higher. Starting at the top and go down and show the groups as I go unless I goofed something up.
Hi thanks, yes I was a bit lost and here is what I believe was the reason. Where I stated to get lost was at the on-scree list of the load data, at 1 min 25 sec. Discussion topics go something like this: 1) Hornady bullet p/n 26333 with ballistic coefficient. The ballistic coefficient is not listed on the screen and this is where I start to get lost as I look for it on the listing. 2) Primer discussion, (skipping brass cases and trim length) 3) Hornady brass discussion 4) Powder discussion 5) Charge weight 6) COAL not discussed but was listed at the bottom of the screen. The on-screen list of topics is provided in this order: 1) Bullet 2) Brass cases 3) Trim length - not mentioned in discussion 4) Primer 5) Powder 6) Charge weight 7) COAL - not mentioned. As you can see, the discussion goes from the bullet to the primer, then to the brass. In comparison the on-screen list goes from bullet, to brass, then trim length. The powder, charge weight, and COAL were in order but COAL was not mentioned in the discussion. Anyway, it is a very informative video but I found myself looking for information that was being discussed, and became a bit lost since some of the topics seemed to be out of order from the on-line list being displayed. I attribute it to my engineering background, I like orderly lists. lol Thanks!
Great job. It's ok to be A.D.D. 50% of America is. Probably from water & food. Or food & water lol keep up the good work. 147 seem to be good bullets why I bought 500 :-)
Hi Dave, I have some testing in 6.5 CM in this video ruclips.net/video/hNjtKB3mqiI/видео.html I have done a little in 223 Rem as well. Not sure exactly what your looking for.
Just trying to help. Would love to each the videos but I can’t bear it. SLOW DOWN. Can’t understand you when you talk 90 miles per minute. Great content in there somewhere but when you can’t hear or process it, it’s wasted.
Hi Jeff, Its a fair comment. I have been trying to work on that in some of my newer content. Let me know if you think any of my newer stuff is better. If it helps any you can actually change the playback speed in youtube to slow it down. I am trying to work on this as well as improve the content overall.
IIRC the FED 210 non match and CCI 250 had almost identical numbers in the primer test video. I'm using the Fed 210 non match exclusively now. Maybe you'll find the 210s a little more consistent over various powders. I see no need for match primers by federal any longer. The CCI 250s seem best in compressed loads of H4350 but not much better than 210s.
This parallels my testing and development of loads using RL17 in 6.5CM. Horrible consistency and accuracy with junk ES and SD regardless of primer used. RL16 has given me much better ES, SD, and Accuracy, especially when using Rem7-1/2, GM205M, and GM210M. I've not had any luck finding decently consistent loads with any CCI primers in any calibers, even their BR2 and BR4, and especially not their standard or magnum non-match primers. I've always had best accuracy and consistency using the 3 above mentioned primers in my loads, followed by the plain Winchester rifle primers in both small and large sizes.
Look forward to the next batch of testing.
Edit: Maybe try the GM215M primer if you feel the need to run a mag primer. I've not used them in 10+ years since I sold my 300Kong, but they provided the best accuracy for me in that cartridge when I was using it in F-Class matches.
I have a follow up to this coming up soon with NT brass is the only change. Interesting to me but I am biased.
Bolt Action Reloading look forward to it. I don’t neck turn much except for my 22PPC and 6PPC as they are tight necked chambers. I will do some lots of junk brass that have more than .002” neck wall differences if they are for precision use, but most of my brass has been .001” or less recently, and junk brass is usually relegated to range use or break in function.
Bolt Action Reloading look forward to it. I don’t neck turn much except for my 22PPC and 6PPC as they are tight necked chambers. I will do some lots of junk brass that have more than .002” neck wall differences if they are for precision use, but most of my brass has been .001” or less recently, and junk brass is usually relegated to range use or break in function.
Great vid. Just subscribed and find your videos very informative thank you. I have an inquiry for a possible load test. Using the new vhitavouri 565 with 140eldm and 142smk. Also seat 0.004" off the lands with fed210m primers hornady cases. I think that would bring some interest. Cheers
Glad you are enjoying the channel. Not sure how 565 would do with that slow if burn rate.
Vhitavouri list load data on their website for 140gr bullets. They also state that the 565 is extreme temp insensitive. Which to my curiousity would be cool to try with cold ammunition and hot also it shows very decent speeds. Im in process to order it so maybe you can get it faster in your area
I have honestly been trying to think of a good test protocol to do temp tests, but not sure how to guarantee a reliable, repeatable, not to expensive way of doing it. Glad to listen to any ideas.
If you are interested i have alot a data on some tests i have done on hybrid 100v and built an entire chart based on it. If you are interested dcrossla@hotmail.com
I found your channel recently and have enjoyed your content. I have one comment however; I find that you're verbally describing the load data, out of order with the written text on screen. I find myself trying to find the text on my screen that corresponds with what you are saying. And the effect is that I get lost trying to match your verbal description with the screen text. It would be nice if you followed the order of the text on the screen, making it easier to follow the message. Anyway, lots of good info otherwise!
I appreciate the feedback but honestly don't understand. I always start at the lowest charge and go higher. Starting at the top and go down and show the groups as I go unless I goofed something up.
Hi thanks, yes I was a bit lost and here is what I believe was the reason. Where I stated to get lost was at the on-scree list of the load data, at 1 min 25 sec.
Discussion topics go something like this:
1) Hornady bullet p/n 26333 with ballistic coefficient. The ballistic coefficient is not listed on the screen and this is where I start to get lost as I look for it on the listing.
2) Primer discussion, (skipping brass cases and trim length)
3) Hornady brass discussion
4) Powder discussion
5) Charge weight
6) COAL not discussed but was listed at the bottom of the screen.
The on-screen list of topics is provided in this order:
1) Bullet
2) Brass cases
3) Trim length - not mentioned in discussion
4) Primer
5) Powder
6) Charge weight
7) COAL - not mentioned.
As you can see, the discussion goes from the bullet to the primer, then to the brass.
In comparison the on-screen list goes from bullet, to brass, then trim length.
The powder, charge weight, and COAL were in order but COAL was not mentioned in the discussion.
Anyway, it is a very informative video but I found myself looking for information that was being discussed, and became a bit lost since some of the topics seemed to be out of order from the on-line list being displayed. I attribute it to my engineering background, I like orderly lists. lol Thanks!
Great job. It's ok to be A.D.D. 50% of America is. Probably from water & food. Or food & water lol keep up the good work. 147 seem to be good bullets why I bought 500 :-)
Do you have test results for 6.5 staBil powder ?
Also LOVE the MOPAR sign !!!!!
Hi Dave, I have some testing in 6.5 CM in this video ruclips.net/video/hNjtKB3mqiI/видео.html I have done a little in 223 Rem as well. Not sure exactly what your looking for.
@@BoltActionReloading I went to the video you included... PERFECT ! Thank you.
HI Dave, Glad that you found what you were looking for!
Don't blow your face off! Lol
Just trying to help. Would love to each the videos but I can’t bear it. SLOW DOWN. Can’t understand you when you talk 90 miles per minute. Great content in there somewhere but when you can’t hear or process it, it’s wasted.
Hi Jeff, Its a fair comment. I have been trying to work on that in some of my newer content. Let me know if you think any of my newer stuff is better. If it helps any you can actually change the playback speed in youtube to slow it down. I am trying to work on this as well as improve the content overall.