BBC commentator says kim yuna was robbed of gold.
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- This bbc Sochi free skate commentator carefully agreed that Kim Yuna was robbed of the gold.
If you watched the coverage that night, before Kim Yuna's performance had finished, this commentator said "she's got the gold". Then when the scores were announced he was astonished. Of course the BBC doesn't want to be partial to a controversy, so he had to come explain his action later on this show, apologizing as a commentator. But at the same time as an expert he was saying a lot of the other broadcasters and experts were also baffled on air. When he said "oh maybe the crowd influenced the skaters", we all know what that means ;). Sochi sucks.
Think about it. A girl who was not even in top 5 at the 2013 World Championship, suddenly gets tremendous score at the olympic, and the country that held the olympic was her own home country. Do we need to discuss more about if this competition was fair or not?
2 months before, she got below 190 and 2months later she gets 224. If you are a huge figure skating fan, you should know that this isn't possible.
Sarah hughes was nobody and she won gold
Sarah Hughes was not a nobody. Check your facts before spewing nonsense. I am no Hughes fan by a long shot but she was the bronze medalist at the previous years worlds, bronze medalist at the last 2 Grand Prix finals, and had beaten Slutskaya and kwan (the 2 favorites) to win Skate Canada that year. She had even been 7th and 5th as an extremely young skater at the 99 and 2000 worlds. She was clearly the 3rd favorite going into the Games. Sotnikova by contrast to Hughes was indeed a nobody, with a best worlds finish of a 9th place, no European title, no Grand Prix final medal and only qualifying to compete there once, and not even a mere grand prix event victory.
@DeeVaBae CHRONICLES But Yuna didn't make any single mistake. The one that made mistakes was Sotnikova. She did lutz with wrong edge and did two foot landing.
@@junglimlee9266 and 3F pre-rotated and 3T 회전수부족
No need to explain... It's RUSSIA
Yeah, Yuna Kim was robbed indeed.
Dang
'Katarina Witt is over there, screaming in the studio that she thinks it's wrong'. That was one of my favorite lines in this video. If a two time ladies singles Olympic gold medalist is literally screaming about results, shouldn't that tell the world something?
yeah exactly
A layman can see it was wrong. God knows what seeing this mess did to heads of actual top class skaters.
Kim Yuna was really robbed, her grace, strength, and fluid movements clearly deserve a gold medal
Mark Verdad her all effort every each day from the earliest morning she made dishonored n betrayed by this dirtyjudges from the Mafia country. Yuna smiled on camera being cool so hard but cried badly behind. That hurts my heart made me cry too
everything exept jumps, spins and step sequence
@@din.iuliia delusional. spins yes - Adelina was better. but jumps and steps? Yuna was absolutely robbed of a level 4 StSq and its a crime that her GOE for her steps was lower than Adelina's sloppy display. also dont let me get into the difference in quality of their jumps - 2 foot champion with pre rotation, full blade take off, loose air position, flutz queen
@@din.iuliia Tim Gerber wrote an analysis of this, and Sotnikova's step sequence was not level 4 at Euros or the Grand Prix. Her spins at TEB were not graded that highly either...
@@din.iuliia ruclips.net/video/c6hOp0gEBAE/видео.html
Adelina's first and last medal..
karenpak1 First scandal too
LOL
And she was cheating 🥶
Lmao
It was not her first, but certainly her last
Sochi marks the death of artistic figure skating. It will be a jumping mess after this when skaters attempt difficult program while sacrificing musicality and artistic value to get higher points.
I agree..and even more yuna kim's jumps were better than sot.
23nichk You have been proven right. Here we are with so many skaters arms flailing above their heads, and miming, and oh my god, awkward childlike performances filled with jumping that has nothing to do with the music. Very sad. Thank goodness there are some beautiful and graceful performers, mind you, they are not raking in the gold medals are they!
LOL yup. Pyeongchang is a jumping mess for Russia.
Welcome to 2018 where it is no more figure skating but quad jumping
Wow. 4 years later and here we are
Makes me laugh how the tile of this is "BBC commentator says kim yuna was robbed of gold" as if it was just some ordinary, nondescript commentator. This is Robin Cousins 1980 Olympic Men's Figure Skating Champion!
He knows figure skating is all rigged. :( Sochi go home!
@ Eric Lin. Sadly I'm afraid some results in recent years point to it being rigged. I hate the new system of judging which is anonymous and therefore unaccountable. It was set up in the wake of the 2002 Pairs Skating controversy at the Salt Lake City Olympics and was supposed to eliminate bias and corruption but it has actually made it worse. How can a judging system be fair when someone can judge a performance in a biased way and stay anonymous? At least with the old 6.0 system if a judge acted incorrectly it could be discovered.
if you would know anything about FS you would know that judging system is not anonymous any more
Юлия apologise on behalf of russia!
"How did they do that?! How did that happen?!" Answer? The Russians cheated.
Plain & Simple.....Adelina will NEVER win a World Title, she'll never win a Grand Prix Title, she'll NEVER win a Grand Prix Final, and she'll NEVER get those kind of scores.....ever again.
She's gonna figure out all too soon that her country was her pimp and they whored her out because they wanted Gold Medals. End of story. She's gonna go into the future wondering why she isn't receiving the kind of scores she did at Sochi. Then it'll all hit home. Her country used her to bring home Gold Medals. Russia does not care one iota about Sotnikova
Well Said !!
She proves it as she decided to be a 'substitute' for the World Championships and unlikely to compete. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets 'injured' and then decides to retire. Let's wait & see what Russia' judges with cook up for the world.
And here we are in 2017 and basically every word you said has been proven true. I actually feel sorry for not only Sot but the very good Russian ladies as they really are the cream of the crop as it stands now.... and they might not get the chance to prove it at the 2018 games as there is a very good chance the whole Russian contingent won't be invited. As for Sot, fairly or unfairly, she has to wear the taint and sham of her victory which is a shame because she truly did deserve a medal; just not the gold one.
I pity Sotnikova. With how things are playing, Yuna may end up with Gold anyway, and rightly so. Sotnikova seems as though she's been sacrificed with little to show for it.
Chava Ayanna this aged well
Yuna was not given GEO points the same way as Sotnikova was given by judges. Judges and Russia should be ashamed of that !
Russia won't be ashamed of that because they love cheating.
Yes despite that her jumps, spins, and all elements were of much better quality than Sotnikova.
@@juonisback That’s not true. Everybody in Russia says that Yuna is a champion. I don’t know who is responsible for the bribery, but definitely not me. Yes, I am ashamed of those people who committed that crime. I would be happy if the situation gets clear to every single person.
@@EvstiforovaYuliaschool DEFINITELY NOT EVERYONE DOES IT IN RUSSIA!!😏
НЕ НЕСИТЕ ЧУШЬ!!🙈👎🏼 ТАМ У ВАС ТОЧНО НЕ ВСЕ ТАК СЧИТАЮТ!..
@@whitecat3923 I meant everybody who is related to this sport, and I am one of those. I didn’t mean fans and didn’t speak about you.
Must be awful to have the more than half of the world including experts believing you're not deserving of the Olympic gold medal. I'd rather take the silver in that case! I feel that much more horrible for Adelina because she probably didn't have much to do with the conspiracy, yet, she has to live with it and has THAT MUCH MORE to prove now. I've said this already but I won't be surprise if she announces an 'injury' or an early retirement. With that said, good look to Adelina.
As for Kim Yuna, she introduced poetry back into women's figure skating and made me want to love watching figure skating once again. I hope it won't be much longer until we witness another beautiful skater like her. But until then, long live Queen Yuna!
***** Then Russia gives her a Mercedes and a driver for winning GOLD. Any thoughts on what the judges got?
Actually I almost did feel bad for her until she said in an interview that she deserved her gold because she "skated better than Yuna". I think that's snobbish especially considering how she stumbled during her free skate. So no I wouldn't feel bad for her.
eu-pho ria Delusional. I commend how Kim Yuna handled herself. With grace and dignity. I still can't believe it honestly. I wonder how people would react if they re-aired the performances and see if they all still agree with the results.
***** i think that thomas was just trying to say that Yuna's attitude is just as beautiful as her skating :)) she knew she was robbed, but she didn't say anything while sotnikova said several times "i deserve the gold" "i skated better than Yuna" and even judged Yuna's skating. such different attitudes. The angel and the legend gets the medal stolen... sotnikova should be ashamed.
Seoyeon Kim as a korean i think your comment is rude and offensive. I don't think Yuna needs that sort of disgraceful nonsense as supporters.
Worst Olympic EVER!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't be as annoyed if she didn't suck at the Gala performance and call herself better than Yuna.
Did she suck at the Gala? Yuna popped the jump at the Gala. Not a good ending either.
Ilya Fadeev You know what? Many skaters do some mistakes at the Gala. Maybe because of fatigue from the competition. They usually play well even though with some mistake.That's usual. But to play ridiculously? Not usual. Sotnikova's performance was the worst at the Gala in Sochi. I have never seen such a poor quality at the gala after the competition.
Especially as a gold medalist lol
What? She did?
Oh god that gala performance was atrocious. From the skating to the outfit like she looked like radioactive puke
That Russian girl was way overscore, her program is not more than 130 at her best!!!
Queen Yuna didn't lose.
Sochi 2014 olympic and IOC LOST.
Yuna is Yuna!
God save the Queen Yuna!
Long live the Queen Yuna!
Adios Queen Yuna!
Thank you Queen Yuna!
If you watched the coverage that night, before Kim Yuna's performance had finished, this commentator said "she's got the gold". Then when the scores were announced he was astonished. Of course the BBC doesn't want to be partial to a controversy, so he had to come explain his action later on this show, apologizing as a commentator. But at the same time as an expert he was saying a lot of the other broadcasters and experts were also baffled on air. When he said "oh maybe the crowd influenced the skaters", we all know what that means ;). Sochi sucks.
You are right! I watched it too on bbc. Commentator said what we all thought. This has got to be gold!
I will use your comment for my video description. It sums it up perfectly.
urg so much better and truthful than the american commentators.... the american ones were like "oh Adelina got the crowd going.... and the judges saw that" like no sh*t, she's a russian in Sochi Olympics in RUSSIA, and the judges shouldn't be basing it off the crowd's reaction, especially if it's in the skater's own country.
omg... yes... american commentators were either bribed or just scared of something... cuz even scott hamilton said it was the oat beautiful performance ever.... can you believe this? many other americans were scared. they were cowards.
Jing I'm American and I agree with you Yuna was definitely robbed. For them to change the commentary was wrong, the whole world thinks that Yuna should've won.
@@sarazelin2468 Tara and Johnny were cowards. They then turned around after 2014 to support Yuna Kim. As if we don't know that they are little liars and fair-weather friends! Dick Button was the only real American with the balls to call out Sotnikova for what she really is: an incomplete skater. We need Dick Button back!
@@Essylte did tara and johnny really take back their earlier statement about supporting adelina's gold? I read on wiki that they changed their stance but couldn't find the original source anywhere
@@keziarukmana1950 I heard from someone else that Johnny and Tara disagreed with the scores at first, that Sotnikova's were too high, but since they worked for NBC, probably had to say what their bosses wanted them to say (No repeat SLC 2002 scandal, please!). They probably said what they said on TV so as to protect their paychecks. They only stopped supporting Sotnikova after 2014 and went back to being on Kim's side, the turncoats.
Funny because it appears she's (Adelina) not even going to World Championships. hahahah I laugh at that. Just when she has MUCH more to prove that she deserved the gold, she decides to be a 'substitute'. What a fluke. I guess she can't get favored now that she wont be at home advantage. I won't be surprised if she decides to retire.
To be fair, very few Olympic champions have competed at the following World Championships. The WC following an Olympics has for a while been a great place for silver or bronze medalists to win a big title while the Olympic gold medalists are cashing in on endorsements and appearance fees.
Thomas Skuzinski If you say so... let's see if she competes elsewhere, if not at the Worlds. ;)
Thomas Skuzinski True, but usually the OGM has a proven international track record and do have an OGM that is questioned like this. The male OGM is going to Worlds and the OGM pairs team has an injury keeping them out. The top two ice dance teams both have spent years holding down 1 and 2. Adelina has been running around being arrogant since the Olympics saying this is just the beginning and she wants all the gold out there. The 2014 Worlds would have been the perfect place to start and silence some of the controversy. Not only do I think she is avoiding Worlds because she knows she does not truly measure up, I doubt that she will compete again. She needs to keep the illusion that she is an Ice Queen going and coming in 9th place hurts that.
+Meriel Coleman Almost 4 years later, Sotnikova still has yet to win anything else, like Worlds's, Gpf, 4CC's, heck she has barely skated..... 😒🙄 Half hearted threats of comebacks, fake injuries while making $ off Russian dancing with the stars...
I sort of feel bad for Yuna, but after I remember of Sarah Hughes and Sale/Pelletier pair, I know the fs world just reaps what it sowed.
After hearing the score result, I couldn't watch this performance again since I felt literally painful in my heart and angry at the corrupt judges. Two years later now, I watch this supreme performance over and over, amazed at the artistry perfect with the music. This program and other Yuna's performances are gifts to figure skate fans over the world.
so-young park yes ive never watched a figure skating performance before! and poor me watching yuna kim' performance for the first time. i mean, she' feeling the music, it's like seeing her dance n do ballet instead of skating on ice with that skate? her performances are always awesome and flowy and seeing her doing jumps that idk what's the name is...3L? she made it looks so easy yet so beautiful that i have huuge standards of what a figure skating performance should look like? but then i tried to watch other figure skaters a male gold medalist and see they actually made a lot of mistakes like fell when doing 3L or success in their jumps but had bad and shaky landing? how can yuna did that so cleanly and gracefully that in the end it gives me impression that it's easy. but then i saw other figure skaters are not as gracefully/flowy/good as her. watching other athletes i can see how it's difficult. but watching her it's like ah thats so beautiful and looks easy idk how to explain it😭😭😭
True Champion, Yuna Kim
No mater how I watch the videos, Yuna Kim performed beautifully more so than anyone else. In the hearts of million of viewers, Yuna was the gold medalist and no one can rob that away from her.
Imagine how ANGRY and FRUSTRATED the 4th place skater felt when she lost her 3rd place to THE NEON MOTH
LMAO
I still feel bad for Gracie, she was 4th lol
Sotnikova had wrong edges, two feet landing but GEOs were 2~3. The judges were corrupted, and even she said “I was better than Yuna” after the performance. What a shame to judges and her spitting out those words?
why did sotnikova hugged one of the judges? ooohhh... CHEATING.
ONe judge can't change the scores. JUST SO YOU KNOW: the lowest GOE and the highest get cancelled out of the scores for eahc element ;)
Oh please. Even 1 judge can bring up the average score.
Gold is not a gold when it does not glitter. Poor Sotnikova. She only has the crushing burden to prove her legacy, unless she makes a quick retirement.
TLL Six years later, this comment aged like wine since Sotnikova couldn’t prove herself after her fluke gold
I was a huge pan of figure skating untill Sochi Olympics. After the ridiculous result, I decided not to watch that sports any more. All skaters have to be respected their sweat and effort. However, the judges and Rusia ruined everything. Yuna kim should have gotten her second gold medal and Nathalie Péchalat & Fabian Bourzat should have gained broze medal. Also, Aliona Savchenko & Robin Szolkowy should have won silver medal and Pang Qing &Tong Jian should have been awarded bronze medal. Russia stole at least 4 medals only in figure skating. I was very disappointed and sick of that kinds of disgusting scenes. Good buy.. figure skating and the Queen.
Actually, good buy.. clowns aka judges!
I think you're right with the ladies... but Russia did really well on the pairs competition!
서윤희 Thank you so much for this excellent, informative write-up. If you are really Yuna's ghostwriter, gratitude multiplied. Better still you are Yuna, not lost in translation!
Seriously, this ought to be available on a proper, more accessible public forum; not left to random chance of whimsical, curious clicks on a YT title.
If you don't mind awfully I would like to 'forward' this post to - I donnie Coburn - below for his/her enlightenment. Wish I could make a gift of this article to the world as well.
Thank you again for making sense of the disgrace in Sochi.
서윤희 I read the same poem everywhere. Can you please tell me what did the Korean judge do at the short program and why didn't South Korea object to the final results?
Just imagine had Plushenko not withdrew, even with Hanyu skating clean, and Plushenko practically stood there in the middle of ice the Gold was already ready to be presented to Plushenko. Then all Golds in the FS events, except Ice Dancing(although Bronze for Russia was another rigged event), will be earned by the Russians. Just creepy, isn't?
I know I'm a hundred years late to this, but I just want to get my thoughts out about the horrific Olympics 2014 that it was. In my opinion and yes it's my opinion I have not ever encountered a woman, skater or a QUEEN like yuna Kim, I've recently been watching all the performances and shows that she has done and I'm sat here with tears of joy but anger, knowing that this woman did not win her second gold medal makes me physically and emotionally sick. A woman that has the artistry of someone, I've never have seen to have before, she is dancing on the ice as if she owns it, the 2014 Olympics was no different she was completely mesmerising to watch both her SP and FS were above and beyond better in every way shape and form than anyone else, never been in love with someone as much as I do with queen Yuna I'm just mad that she retired at the wrong time... But then there's Sotnikova
Same here :(
The Doctor you know Doctor I saw this four years ago and a strong argument could be made for Kostner winning this! Why? She had the best short program in the Olympics and was underscored as well and her Long program had some fantastic jumps and first rate footwork. Now I'm not taking anything away from Kim but Kostner was gracious and showed great sportsmanship! As did Kim. If this was judged fairly you would have had a great show! No one ever acknowledges Kostners fantastic performances when this debacle unfolded!
same
@@arnquist Kim - Gold; Kostner - Silver. Even the Italians acknowledged that Kim was golden. They happen to know about Kostner's skating technique and her competitions, so they'd be content if their girl won silver like she was meant to.
I'm still upset so much with the ugly result, even though almost 3 weeks has passed. Where is justice? Where is sportsmanship? IOC confessed it doesn't have any motivation to fix the wrong with uploading the Sotnikova's performance as a gold performance. I'll not forgive IOC. I'll not support IOC any more. I'm sad 2018 winter Olympics will be held in my county, Korea. But at the same time I hope 2018 Winter Olympics be much fairer than 2014 one in Sochi even though I don't like IOC.
It is so sad that Kim Yu-Na has decided to retire... Why is she quitting her career so soon ? She's so young... She would definitely have won many more gold medals in the future, and notably at PyeongChang.
Since no official complaint has been signed against the results, the IOC has no right to "fix the wrong" the way you wish. Sotnikova is still the gold winner of the Sochi Olympics.
AndMakrid Maybe or maybe not. Let's see. History will say everything eventually.
***** I really wish you all the best!
+mojo mojo I'm not questioning her right to retire... I simply note how young she still is, and since she has devoted her whole life to the Olympics, it's sad to see her miss her last opportunity to participate in four years... I also have the feeling that she was so disappointed by the russian cheating that she gave up competition for good (it's my personal analysis).
I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that Adelina robbed Yuna or the fact that Adelina is an Olympic Gold medal champion and Michelle Kwan isn’t?
People who are new to figure skating and don't know much about how scoring works think that Yuna had an easier program and Sotnikova was more technical - and that's why Sotnikova won. This argument is coming only by looking at the base value scores. Yes, Yuna had a lower base value score for the free skate but she had a higher base value score in short program. And in total, their SP + LP base value scores differ only by 1.44. This small score difference has posed no problems to Yuna before (as demonstrated by multiple times in the past). Why is that? Because she makes up for this with other scores like GOE and PCS. We not only watch the sport for techinical skills but also artistry, how the skater interprets the music, how much control she has over each of the program element, etc. Yuna is known as the "textbook jumper" because she is skilled at executing all the jumps exactly how they are supposed to be jumped (GOE). She is also known for her poise and how expressive she is with the choreography (PCS). In Sochi, she was severely underscored in GOE and PCS and Sotnikova was overscored. Pay attention to how Sotnikova executes her jumps. She doesn't have great flow in and out of the jump, she has a slanted axis in air, she under-rotates, had a wobbly and shaky landings possibly two-footed, stepped out of a jump, AND she takes off on the wrong edge (inner edge) on Lutz (called a flutz, or cheating lutz). In the past, she has been called on this and recieved wrong edge calls and got negative GOEs but not in Sochi. If you look at her lutz in slow motion, you can see that she prepares for the jump with the correct outer edge but actually jumps/takes off the ice with the inner edge. She was rewarded for this wrong jump with GOEs. And the step-out mistake that got -0.9GOE? According to the rule books, it should have been -2. Also, Sotnikova recieved level 4 for the step sequence while Yuna got level 3. Just watch both their performances and look at the sequence yourself. Sotnikova just flings her arms around a lot and moves her free leg but does not have good speed or acceleration during it, no deep clean edges compared to Kim, lacks effortlessness and flow. AND, with respect to PCS, Sotnikova jumped almost 20 points in 6 months. That just does not happen. To quote Kurt Browning, “I was shocked. What, suddenly, she just became a better skater overnight? I don’t know what happened.". Sotnikova, in the LP, did ATTEMPT a more difficult program but did not execute it properly to justify the grades she got. ARTISTRY COMES ONLY AFTER MASTERING SKILLS AND TECHNIQUES. Yuna kim wasn't just a "ballerina on ice". She delivered the perfect combination of athleticism and artistry and was not rewarded properly.
In 2022 I'm still pissed off for Yuna Kim.
I'm from the Philippines and I do agree that Yuna Kim got robbed.
the QUEEN will always be the QUEEN even if the CROWN is silver
An honest commentator, he is.
First of all, there was a problem of the judge assignments. If you look into the judge assignments closely, you would see some judges were not eligible. First, the technical controller was Alexander Lakernik who is Russian. Second, one of the judges was Alla Shekhovtseva who is the president's wife of the Russian Figure Skating Association. Third, the technical specialist was Olga Baranova who is suspected of being dual nationality because she was Russian, but became naturalized in Finland. Fourth, the judge of Ukraine (which separated from Russia), Yuri Balkov, fifth, the judge of Estonia (Which separated from Russia), Zanna Kulik, sixth, the technical specialist, Vanessa Gusmeroll (from France) who was implicated in the conspiracy with Russia at the pair skating events at the Salt Lake City Olympics in 2002.
In other words, 6 judges out of 13 are Russians and pro-Russians. They are half of the judges. How could this absurdity happen? How can we expect them to be fair? Obviously, it was cheating. I ask you to investigate the judge assignments thoroughly.
Anyone that's feeling depressed about this, just go watch Yuna's performance in Vancouver.
That isn't just some BBC commentator. It's Robin Cousins!
There was truly a gap in how perfectly jumps, steps and spins are performed, there between yuna kim and Adelina sotnikova.
That cannot be overcome by slightly higher base points.
It's been already declared that Adelina did mistakes almost on every elements with her two performances on Sochi.
All of these facts that her jumps being under-rottated, landing with a full blade and steps being bumped up to a level 4 ..etc were not that easily perceivable to the ones, who don't know much about figure skating.
Adelina's atrocious attitude after she "won" kind of sealed the fact that she didn't deserve that stolen gold medal. Kim Yuna is the real gold medalist.
When you watch them side by side video, you can tell Yuna's program was more difficult. She just made it seem so easy, smooth & elegant. She was robbed for sure!
The fact that Sotnikova has never competed anywhere else (except for one trifling domestic competition) suggests that she knows full well that she is weak, that she is not at the level of a queen. We can say that Sotnikova ended her career after the Olympics, and even in Russia now no one is talking about her (everyone is only concerned about the Tutberidze girls).
First this. Then drugs… now invading ukraine. These Russians are rotten!
Still smiling even when she was robbed of gold. That's our queen yuna
Sotnikova PLANNED a more difficult program, but didn't even skate it properly. Jumping with the wrong edge, under-rotating, stepping out, the list is endless. And omg, stop saying she skated a more difficult program. The difference in SP+FP base value score was only 1.44. She didn't win because of the difficulty. Sotnikova won b/c of unreasonably high GOEs and PCS. She wasn't penalized for her wrong edges and under-rotations like before, and her PCS jumped like 20 points in 6 months. While Kim wasn't given her well-deserved GOEs and PCS. One of the judges even gave her 0 on a beautiful jump. Don't try to make sense of what happened by belittling Kim's beautiful, clean performances.
Yuna Kim - Gold
Carolina - Silver
Adelina - Branze
honestly she deserve none
Gracie-Bronze
gracie gold bronze
He said "It's gotta be gold." at the end of Yuna's FS performance.
Alla Shekhovtseva - Wife of the President of the Russian Skating Federation pictured above, hugging Sotnikova.Yuri Balkova - Ukranian judge who was suspended for a year after he
attempted to fix the ice dancing competition in the 1998 Nagano
Olympics.
I saw this live and my immediate reaction was no way. Robbery.
I'm watching BBC... And millions of other ppl are too....
KIM Yuna, 2x Olympic Gold Medalist. Sotnikova should mail her thé medal
at 2013 competition, adelina was no 13 in the world.. that't her real score
Notice they didn't show the part where Adelina fucked up her last jump
4 years later I’m still pissed abt this
I will be forever pissed about this, I just can't forget it :(
I cant believe this has 174k views. What an impact.
Straight up robbery!
Thank you for uploading this!
Poor Yuna. I don't even feel like watching figure skating anymore. Why bother when judges are cheating.
Yuna Kim ! Yuna Kim !
She so deserved to win,
She's talented and has it all
So Russians sown you fall !
Yuna was, is and will be the real queen
My favorite was the Italian commentaries 🤣🤣
what a beautiful, amazing, noble, graceful, sophisticated young lady she is
even when she knew, along with everyone else, that she was ROBBED of of her gold medal, she still held herself like a true lady that she is
held her composure in a very graceful manner
SHE WAS THE TRUE OWNER OF THAT GOLD, you cheating @ssholes
Scandal, Fraud, and Death of Figure Skating
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The 2014 Sochi Olympics will be remembered as the day when the ladies figure skating finally met its demise.
It was the Russian mob politics that robbed Yuna Kim of South Korea of her rightful gold medal in front of the global TV audience. It was the ISU's premeditated device, since they began promoting the 15 year old Julia Lipnitskaia, that turned upside down the COP system as well as the integrity of figure skating.
Scandals and fraud are nothing new to this over a hundred year old sport. But never before was it displayed in so outrageous a manner as in Sochi.
It had been set up already long before the game began. Last year throughout the Grand Prix, Julia Lipnitskaia caused a storm winning every competition with her consistency but questionable qualities and super inflated scores.
As I indicated in the earlier articles, that presaged this storm.
This is not an anomaly in which those pro Russian judges and the mad Russian mob raped and butchered the sport in live TV. It was the ISU that conceived it all several months ago.
And their devious plot finally reared its ugly head.
Lavishing the unthinkable GOE on the then 15 year old's juniorish jump, the ISU judges had been building up the momentum for the grand Sochi fraud.
In the 2013 World championships everything seemed clear that there was no way for any young skater to get even close to the top skaters such as Yuna Kim, Carolina Kostner or Mao Asada as the podium was stonewalled by them.
The mastery of the veteran skaters are far ahead of the youngsters unless the gap should be closed artificially.
That's why the ISU judges began to award a pile of GOE on the young skaters' poor quality jump in the Grand Prix as long as they managed to land them.
You don't have to be an expert. Adelina Sotnikova or Julia Lipnitskaia for that matter didn't change much or only improve mildly from their junior performances.
In the 2013 Worlds Adelina Sotnikova's perfect short program which is an almost exact replica of hers in Sochi earned barely 60. Now nearly 75? Are you kidding?
It can't possibly fall within the range of standard deviation.
Both Julia Lipnitskaia and Adelina Sotnikova were, and still are skaters who categorically belong to the second group; their scores at their best range only between 200- 195.
The truth is that a skater like Adelina Sotnikova or Julia Lipnitskaia needs at least five years of hard training and a bit of luck to reach the kind of level of skating of these trio veterans. Only some errors in competitive context may open a chance for lesser skaters to catch up.
But in Sochi, in all far-fetched fantasy, the case is closed, solid and indisputable.
If judged correctly, Sotnikova should have scored 65 or less in short and 135 in free, which gives her less than 200.
In other words if judged unbiasedly, Sotnikova or even Lipnitskaia cannot, will not and shall not beat those veterans unless the veterans make serious mistakes or multiple flaws in performance. But in Sochi, the trio delivered nearly best performances except Mao Asada who imploded in short, yet came back brilliantly in free.
The incredible Kim did give wonderful performances, given the situation in which she had to wait a long break before she started the free program. Nothing came near to her statuesque presentation except her own monumental performances in Vancouver four years ago.
Only skaters who could ever be compared to Kim were Kostner or Asada. Even with ludicrous placement of Sotnikova after short, Kim still won the game by mile.
But the result showed Adelina Sotnikova earned five points ahead of Kim.
There is no way of justifying this other than an outright fraud.
cant wait for the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP...we'll see,,....she will never get those kind of points ever in her entire LIFE as long as she breath
Adelina isn't competing at the worlds. That alone says plenty.
LiVeLiKeURdying2
A lot of Gold Medalists don't compete in the Worlds following the Olympics. Adelina won the Gold Medal fair and square.
***** if fair & square that you're talking about actually meant inflated scores, then yes...Adelina 'won the gold fair & square.'
+Rick Mileske you need to go see a eye doctor asap
"fair and square" If you call inflated scores and multiple mistakes which were ignored "fair and square", you must not be very educated.
Controversy with suspicion and condemnation is not entertaining element of Olympics. What makes Olympics honorable is fairness of it and the unfairness like this event vents rage of people around the world. What I want is not a gold medal but a fair reward and respect to her continuous effort to make her program perfect.
yeah... the purpose of gold medal is not just the shiny medal itself but the respect it gives, like a ticket. sotnicova did get that shiny medal but not the respect from most people around the world, especially from other figure skaters. she probably doesn't know what winning a pure/actual gold medal feels like, but she probably feels all sticky and dark like there is something not right, even if she does feel good outwardly.
Sochi is the worst olympic ever. R.I.P ISU!!! I'm not watching figure skating anymore but I just keep on watching queen Yuna.
Since the beginning of the Olympics things have been rigged. that russian girl sucked, she fell, she wobbled on her lands, she was robotic. Yuna was a perfect score.
yuna was robbed! Shame on the russian judges, ioc and adelina (who has no conscious, if she did she would hand over her undeserved homecooked gold). the whole world knows kim deserved the gold yet the ioc claims that there is no controversy and puts up fake quotes of kim yuna praising adelina. VERY FUNNY IOC, ARE YOU BLIND?!
If u don’t genuinely see Yuna was robbed u probably work in the isu
It is exactly 6 years after.....6 years! and I have NO resolve over this. YUNA WAS ROBBED! CANT BELIEVE IT STILL!
Worst winter olympic ever
Under-rotated jumps, like flutzes, should result in deductions. And if Sotnikova did flutz or under-rotate her jump, then she was given too many points.
Accoridng to technical score,Sotnikova's long program is difficult than Yuna Kim. But she didn't do it well. [Unstable landing(Two-feet landing), Flutz jump(cheating lutz jump by using inside edge(must be judged Wrong edge), Under-rotation, step-level..]
Then Yuna Kim's short program was more difficult than Sotnikova . And the score was almost same. How do you explain this based on your 'difficult program' theory? Yuna Kim didn't make a mistake. (long&short program) And what about Mao Asada? She did 3A and triple combo in her FS) Should she won the free program? No,
Figure skating is not Jumping competetion. In terms of jumps, the russian's technic is coarse though.
The one thing you have to know is that a lot of successive gold medalist won the competition without many jumps than silver medalist. The Important thing is not the quantity but the quality of jump!
Here are a couple links addressing controversy/arguments for the jump quality and techniques,
if you really love figure skating and look at this.
www.feverskating.com/fevers/64956111
Home cooking dirty gold
Sochi scandal! Sotnikova was far away from podium!
What a SHAME!!!!
Sochi was worst olympic ever
Before this night, Russia was 1 gold medal shy from taking the no. 1 spot from the USA.... They just needed this 1 gold......
Russia got the gold but still ,Kim yuna is still the queen and she's always the best and talented one no one can win over her
I'm sorry..but Adelina looked like she was about to fall at ANY moment; Yuna on the other hand just looked effortless.
Secondly, there was a problem of judgments.
Alexander Lakernik, the Russian technical controller didn't point out any technical mistakes of Sotnikova even though she had jumped with the wrong edge, under-rotated and landed with too feet. Furthermore, one of the judges marked GOE +3 for her wrong techniques ridiculously. This competition was a total cheating. One more thing I cannot allow is one of the ISU regulations that no one can protest the judgment. Making an excuse with the preposterous rule and saying there is nothing you can do is ridiculing sports people all around the world. There is a thief, but you cannot catch the thief due to a regulation. Do you think it makes sense?
As I mentioned above, the first and the second problems are the most serious so that you can request investigation of a court of arbitration or International Interpol about this incident by your authority.
Yuna's performance was not boring! Adelina had poor choreography and did smthing like cheerleading and its only your taste to like it more. Sotnikova and Yuna Kim , they are both good, yes, but there are levels of good. Quoted an The Washington Post, One is good in the way you call your grandmother a good dancer because she does the cha-cha slide at the family reunion. The other is a prima ballerina.
Some say Yuna's program lacked excitement-her music... But Adios Nonino was written in memory of the composer's father after his death...
I don’t think Sotnikova interpreted her music (Carmen) with the subtlety shown by Kim. (even though Sotnikova's music is very easy for interpreting)
Are we supposed to be impressed by a skater waving at a Russian crowd cheering. to get them stirred up, as Sotnikova did? It’s fun, and a nice moment, but does “Habanera” warrant it? Did we see a touch of “Habanera” in her movement? What we saw was an exciting display of athleticism.
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More then 10 points were inflated from adelina sotnikova preformence. She jumped her triple lutz wrong. She deserved nothing at all. Im still so angry at this
3lz > wrong edge. prerotation. poor take off.
first 3t > prerotation. and under ~ downgrade. poor take off
second 3t > prerotation. poor take off
two 3f > prerotation. poor take off
7 triple? you have only 2 triple.
New York Times should officially apologize to Yuna Kim and delete the articles and composite images they have already posted about Sotnikova’s performance being greater than hers.
Also, the ISU judges should immediately make a new judgement based on the arguments shown above.
If they have no power to do so, then as a judge, they should release themselves of their seat from the most respected and responsible ISU.
If they did have the power to do so and still judged poorly, it would be considered an act for their own benefit in riches and would be only right to investigate them. They have no rights to make excuses towards anything. It is greatly urged that the ISU and the IOC immediately investigate into the judges
and give the right disciplines to them.
About the Composite Images by New York Times
It has 1. Wrong ratio of size. Yuna(165cm) is smaller than Sotnikova.(163cm)
2. Different angles of view and locations.
3. Some questionable editing makes.
It's not enough to compare something arrcurate, like height of jump.
That comparison is based on different jumps (2A+3T vs 3S+2T)
Fair comparison must be based on the same jumps like us (3Lz+3T vs 3Lz+3T)
In conclusion, the images shown by New York Times saying Adelina Sotnikova was better in jumps and techniques than Yuna.
But it's just a incorrect DATA that lacked accurate technical analyzations and fairness of arcurate comparison.
However, Yuna Kim’s reputation was already damaged by them.
no sportsmanship...shame
Russian not clarely judging system ,shame better
Russian not clearly judging system ,shame better
Its called having a country buy a gold medal. Wonder how much it cost this time
Yuna did not loose, she was robbed, it's that simple. I dont no how the judges and the winner of the gold medal sleep at night.
After almost a decade still makes me mad 😠 😡 now even Sotnikova admit her doping test came positive. Return the Gold you thief
Sotnikova 's double Loop was obviously under-rotated with a wobbly, shaky (and possibly two-footed) landing
IT WAS a two-foot landing indeed
The world was robbed of a great champion. There is no need for controversy. Time will tell.
The ISU and IOC are so cruel~
A twice made Yuna sad!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will not be surprised if she ever skates again.
Adelina wasn't just a clown, she was a doped clown. Admitted she was one of the athletes who failed their drug test. Got away with it when the B sample came back clean. Knowing what we know about Russian testing labs, we can be assured that B sample was switched.
Alla Shekhovtsova of Russia. She is the wife of a general director of the Russian figure skating federation.
The her judgment is biased.
The list of freaking other judges:
Franco Benini of Italy.
Zanna Kulik of Estonia.
Nobuhiko Yoshioka of Japan.
Hélène Cucuphat of France.
Karen Howard of Canada.
Adriana Domanska of Slovakia.
All liars.
Podieom level
1.Yuna kim - gold
2.Carolinar kostner - silver
3.Gracie Gold - bronze
Adelina exposed her bottom more than any skater I have seen. Doesn't look classy either.
Yuna wins but The Spirit of Russia take her medal of Gold.
An important question is : Where Yuna-Kim robbeed ?
The Most Important Question is : Where was the Olympic Spirit in that competition ?
No, this isn't a magician Olympics. It is a figure skating Olympics. Also, it is not a "let's see how many jumps I can do" Olympics. If they are just going to count the jumps, and not how WELL they are done, just get rid of GOEs and PCS. Some are quick to point out the one less triple Kim did in the free skate. Little do they know, Kim did one MORE double jump, meaning the difference was ONE TURN. And if you count the under-rotated/pre-rotated Sotnikova's jump, as well as two-footed landing and step out, the difference is nothing. There is a reason why Kim was a favourite to win gold. Why? Because she has textbook jump techniques (superior speed, height, distance) and is a MASTER at interpreting the music with complex and beautiful choreography. The world is angry, not because they hate Sotnikova, but because an incomplete, still a junior-level skater beat a true master at the sport. Please don't brush off this scandal by thinking that all this is coming from fans who JUST wanted to see Kim win. What happened at Sochi was a disgrace to the sport.
If some people (the judges and tech panel) tainted the last performance of an innocent athlete, would you be alright? This is why many fans and past skating legends are mad. There was a mistake in judging. If you were familiar with the judging system and have been following the sport for a long time, it is obvious. Mistakes do happen. When atheletes make mistakes, they are (and should be) deducted marks. But what happens when judges make mistakes? Innocent athletes suffer again (Kim was unjustly denied her second OGM and Sotnikova is under much criticism. This is not her fault, I agree. It's the judges fault). What I am asking for is respect towards what can be a beautiful sport.
Yuna was robbed..its simple. Come on.
We all know what really happened, let's not pretend.
“The Tara Lipinski Moment” said it all.