i have the sea to summit, it is extremely tough. For the past couple years, once a week I use it to do my beer shopping. I usually throw somewhere between 10 and 20 bottles/cans from my local bottle shop and trek back a mile or so to the house. It's plenty strong enough for that purpose, but the nicest thing is how small it gets. Even though the bulk on that Osprey is still quite small, I think it's big enough that it would inconvenience me as I almost always have the tiny sea to summit bag on me, I would probably end up leaving the Osprey at home due to size. Just this afternoon I went grocery shopping and ended up at Lidl, which charges for plastic bags, luckily I had my Sea to Summit bag on me and I fit two cans of tomatoes, three cans of cream of mushroom soup, 2 pounds of chicken, three limes, some green onions and a dozen eggs into it.
Finally I found someone who use these bags for grocery shopping lol. I looked the the STS bag in the store, it looks so wrinkled and flimsy, it kinda turned me off. So it's really the better of the two?
@@lepetitchat123 I think it depends on what you value. To me the compactness of the STS wins hands down. But that's because for my use case I intend (and generally do) keep this bag on my person at all times. The osprey looks big enough that it would be inconvenient to stuff in a pocket, but to be fair I do not have one. I still (two years later) do much of my shopping with my STS bag and have since bought another one. It doesn't hold much, but I regularly realize that I've run out of milk for my morning coffee and pop over to the grocery store a half dozen blocks away and grab some milk and whatever else I might need (that fits in a rather compact bag) and haul it back to the house.
Okay, so I purchased both, expecting to like the Osprey more because of the water bottle holder, and the extra compartment. However, when I fully loaded up all my gear in both for a day hike, I actually found the Sea To Summit was actually noticeably more comfortable with regard to the shoulder straps. How could this be, since the Osprey has padded shoulder straps and the other does not? What I found is that the padded portion of the Osprey actually doesn’t support any weight at all in actual use, but instead the weight is all on the outer edges of the shoulder straps so that each side literally feels like two small ropes digging into your shoulders, whereas the Sea To Summit, even though not padded, the weight was evenly distributed over the entire shoulder strap width, effectively more than doubling the weight distribution of the load you’re carrying. The second thing that made the Osprey less comfortable was that, where the shoulder straps attach to the lower part of the pack, they attach at a much narrower distance apart from each other (left side and right side), so that they dig into your sides/ribs. The Sea To Summit has a wider attachment separation so it does not dig into your sides like the Osprey does. I really really wanted to like the Osprey more due to the extra pouch and especially the external water bottle holder, but when fully loaded up with clothing, food, and water for a normal day hike, the Osprey was noticeably uncomfortable, while the Sea To Summit was a dream to carry the light load. The only inconvenience being having to take one shoulder strap off and swinging the bag around to the front so I could get my water bottle out. However, I decided this was worth the extra comfort, and being able to enjoy nature without the constant reminder that I’m wearing uncomfortable straps. I might actually try and sew on my own water bottle holder, or perhaps do this on the front side of the straps so I can have super easy access, while also balancing the packs weight. Hope this helps someone! If not, do what I did, but both of them, load them up, try them out, and return the one you find less comfortable.
I recently bought an osprey aether AG 70L pack that has a built in removable day back and I love the design! Osprey continues to make excellent innovations in the backpacking world
As a pack that can be flattened out to fit other travel bags for arrival use (after a flight) the REI Flash 18 is tops, but runs 10 oz and isn’t even designed for stuffing. Sea to Summit is best as a packing cube then as local rain jacket or warm layer carrier and as a 7-11 shopping bag. Osprey looks most like a real pack, can be used as an organizer in luggage (but too tear drop shaped for a regular packing cube). I have all 3. That having been, said I always transit with a 4 L PacSafe hip pack which doesn’t get counted as a third bag when boarding if on my hip; use it as my local EDC bag overseas; and have never touched my “stuff” packs no matter which one I bring along. However I still routinely bring the Sea to Summit along “just in case”. I just wish I had never un-stuffed mine, it’s impossible to re-stuff, but as it arrives factory stuffed is truly a micro bag that can go with me at all times in all other bags.
Look at the power of a review. Just got the sea to summit 18l today and after seeing this video, will have to return it and get the Osprey bag. It looks much better.
I love my Sea to Summit ultra lite pack. I use it all the time. It's great for how small it packs down. But that osprey pack has the added features is you were going to use it for more heavy duty hikes. I think of both of these pack as more of a summit pack rather than a day pack. Great video man.
I was so close to buying the SeaToSummit for daypack hiking, but knew I really wanted a water bottle holder on the outside. Boom! You solved my problem with another super ultralight weight option. Thanks so much!
Okay, so I purchased both, expecting to like the Osprey more because of the water bottle holder, and the extra compartment. However, when I fully loaded up all my gear in both for a day hike, I actually found the Sea To Summit was actually noticeably more comfortable with regard to the shoulder straps. How could this be, since the Osprey has padded shoulder straps and the other does not? What I found is that the padded portion of the Osprey actually doesn’t support any weight at all in actual use, but instead the weight is all on the outer edges of the shoulder straps so that each side literally feels like two small ropes digging into your shoulders, whereas the Sea To Summit, even though not padded, the weight was evenly distributed over the entire shoulder strap width, effectively more than doubling the weight distribution of the load you’re carrying. The second thing that made the Osprey less comfortable was that, where the shoulder straps attach to the lower part of the pack, they attach at a much narrower distance apart from each other (left side and right side), so that they dig into your sides/ribs. The Sea To Summit has a wider attachment separation so it does not dig into your sides like the Osprey does. I really really wanted to like the Osprey more due to the extra pouch and especially the external water bottle holder, but when fully loaded up with clothing, food, and water for a normal day hike, the Osprey was noticeably uncomfortable, while the Sea To Summit was a dream to carry the light load. The only inconvenience being having to take one shoulder strap off and swinging the bag around to the front so I could get my water bottle out. However, I decided this was worth the extra comfort, and being able to enjoy nature without the constant reminder that I’m wearing uncomfortable straps. I might actually try and sew on my own water bottle holder, or perhaps do this on the front side of the straps so I can have super easy access, while also balancing the packs weight. Hope this helps someone! If not, do what I did, but both of them, load them up, try them out, and return the one you find less comfortable.
I would probably choose the Osprey as a back up pack/foraging bag for multi-day camping, as it would stand alone better. The Sea to Summit would better serve as a back up bag within my bag, in case I need to gather/carry stuff beyond my main bag's capacity. At 3 ozs. and such a small footprint, I could carry that as part of my EDC kit with ease.
i think if the velcro on the osprey's stuff sack was differently positioned it could shrink down as much as the sea to summit one, since it isn't very squished when packed up.
Awesome! I love Osprey. I have a Kestrel. My brother has the Aether and the brain on that pack actually converts into a daypack. Definitely going to get one of the osprey daypacks🙂 Thanks for the heads up and great review😀🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wish Osprey would have put another water bottle pocket on the right side of the pack. I know that it would load the bag down significantly, but it would allow light, bulky clothing/shelter stored in the main compartment with hydration on the sides. As it is, it would be too unbalanced as a small pack for me with 32oz on one side.
That Osprey looks nice. I have the Cotopaxi version of these, which has been pretty nice. A bit heavier but also has water bladder capability. Also glad it has the second small pocket for keys, etc.
maybe I should get these for the market in Los Angeles specifically you have to buy plastic bags so i could probably use it whenever i walk to the market
Yes. I would believe you. Been buying these kind of packs for $9 off Aliexpress for months. I use them to attach to my main load if the main load exceeds the...main load.
Like the bigger one great presentation...! Your channel is very good...!!! Bought a couple of things already that You have presented...trying all the time to use the links for amazon...AMAZON USA doesn’t ship to Germany 😩 if I’m in the USA for business will definitely use Your links...thanks
I look for colors which are less attractive to the eye. I do not want to stand out all the time. I am a big fan of grey and foliage green. They blend in better.
Awesome video as usual, question, have you considered doing a review on the scandinavian gear 65L pack? Everyone seems to rave about it. I wanna see your perspective!
Yeah, they were. Never did have one but always wanted one. Not sure if they were ever worth it or not. Given that they discontinued them I would guess not. This looks like a more lightweight and economical step up to be honest.
It's a good review , i am a big fan of mini bags like this ( i have 8 various types )they are all worth there weight . Keep them in your regular pack / car for extra capacity . I sometimes have a moan , this time video is top notch . Tks
i have the sea to summit, it is extremely tough. For the past couple years, once a week I use it to do my beer shopping. I usually throw somewhere between 10 and 20 bottles/cans from my local bottle shop and trek back a mile or so to the house. It's plenty strong enough for that purpose, but the nicest thing is how small it gets. Even though the bulk on that Osprey is still quite small, I think it's big enough that it would inconvenience me as I almost always have the tiny sea to summit bag on me, I would probably end up leaving the Osprey at home due to size.
Just this afternoon I went grocery shopping and ended up at Lidl, which charges for plastic bags, luckily I had my Sea to Summit bag on me and I fit two cans of tomatoes, three cans of cream of mushroom soup, 2 pounds of chicken, three limes, some green onions and a dozen eggs into it.
Finally I found someone who use these bags for grocery shopping lol. I looked the the STS bag in the store, it looks so wrinkled and flimsy, it kinda turned me off. So it's really the better of the two?
@@lepetitchat123 I think it depends on what you value. To me the compactness of the STS wins hands down. But that's because for my use case I intend (and generally do) keep this bag on my person at all times. The osprey looks big enough that it would be inconvenient to stuff in a pocket, but to be fair I do not have one.
I still (two years later) do much of my shopping with my STS bag and have since bought another one. It doesn't hold much, but I regularly realize that I've run out of milk for my morning coffee and pop over to the grocery store a half dozen blocks away and grab some milk and whatever else I might need (that fits in a rather compact bag) and haul it back to the house.
Okay, so I purchased both, expecting to like the Osprey more because of the water bottle holder, and the extra compartment. However, when I fully loaded up all my gear in both for a day hike, I actually found the Sea To Summit was actually noticeably more comfortable with regard to the shoulder straps. How could this be, since the Osprey has padded shoulder straps and the other does not? What I found is that the padded portion of the Osprey actually doesn’t support any weight at all in actual use, but instead the weight is all on the outer edges of the shoulder straps so that each side literally feels like two small ropes digging into your shoulders, whereas the Sea To Summit, even though not padded, the weight was evenly distributed over the entire shoulder strap width, effectively more than doubling the weight distribution of the load you’re carrying. The second thing that made the Osprey less comfortable was that, where the shoulder straps attach to the lower part of the pack, they attach at a much narrower distance apart from each other (left side and right side), so that they dig into your sides/ribs. The Sea To Summit has a wider attachment separation so it does not dig into your sides like the Osprey does. I really really wanted to like the Osprey more due to the extra pouch and especially the external water bottle holder, but when fully loaded up with clothing, food, and water for a normal day hike, the Osprey was noticeably uncomfortable, while the Sea To Summit was a dream to carry the light load. The only inconvenience being having to take one shoulder strap off and swinging the bag around to the front so I could get my water bottle out. However, I decided this was worth the extra comfort, and being able to enjoy nature without the constant reminder that I’m wearing uncomfortable straps. I might actually try and sew on my own water bottle holder, or perhaps do this on the front side of the straps so I can have super easy access, while also balancing the packs weight. Hope this helps someone! If not, do what I did, but both of them, load them up, try them out, and return the one you find less comfortable.
Thanks for the important inputs
Thanks a lot for your comment - very helpful!
I recently bought an osprey aether AG 70L pack that has a built in removable day back and I love the design! Osprey continues to make excellent innovations in the backpacking world
I love my Osprey ultralight stuff pack. It's my beach bag; fits two REI flex lite chairs, two towels, sunblock, keys, sunglasses and a water bottle!
As a pack that can be flattened out to fit other travel bags for arrival use (after a flight) the REI Flash 18 is tops, but runs 10 oz and isn’t even designed for stuffing. Sea to Summit is best as a packing cube then as local rain jacket or warm layer carrier and as a 7-11 shopping bag. Osprey looks most like a real pack, can be used as an organizer in luggage (but too tear drop shaped for a regular packing cube). I have all 3. That having been, said I always transit with a 4 L PacSafe hip pack which doesn’t get counted as a third bag when boarding if on my hip; use it as my local EDC bag overseas; and have never touched my “stuff” packs no matter which one I bring along. However I still routinely bring the Sea to Summit along “just in case”. I just wish I had never un-stuffed mine, it’s impossible to re-stuff, but as it arrives factory stuffed is truly a micro bag that can go with me at all times in all other bags.
I have the Osprey Trip 20. Folds into it's own pocket as well - not as small as these though, but I love it. Thanks for showing these other options.
Look at the power of a review.
Just got the sea to summit 18l today and after seeing this video, will have to return it and get the Osprey bag. It looks much better.
I love my Sea to Summit ultra lite pack. I use it all the time. It's great for how small it packs down. But that osprey pack has the added features is you were going to use it for more heavy duty hikes. I think of both of these pack as more of a summit pack rather than a day pack. Great video man.
Good to keep in the car for spontaneous shopping. More secure then an over the shoulder bag.
I really like this idea. Be perfect for the kids so they don't feel left out. Keep 'em coming Aaron.
5 Angels that is a great idea
I was so close to buying the SeaToSummit for daypack hiking, but knew I really wanted a water bottle holder on the outside. Boom! You solved my problem with another super ultralight weight option. Thanks so much!
Okay, so I purchased both, expecting to like the Osprey more because of the water bottle holder, and the extra compartment. However, when I fully loaded up all my gear in both for a day hike, I actually found the Sea To Summit was actually noticeably more comfortable with regard to the shoulder straps. How could this be, since the Osprey has padded shoulder straps and the other does not? What I found is that the padded portion of the Osprey actually doesn’t support any weight at all in actual use, but instead the weight is all on the outer edges of the shoulder straps so that each side literally feels like two small ropes digging into your shoulders, whereas the Sea To Summit, even though not padded, the weight was evenly distributed over the entire shoulder strap width, effectively more than doubling the weight distribution of the load you’re carrying. The second thing that made the Osprey less comfortable was that, where the shoulder straps attach to the lower part of the pack, they attach at a much narrower distance apart from each other (left side and right side), so that they dig into your sides/ribs. The Sea To Summit has a wider attachment separation so it does not dig into your sides like the Osprey does. I really really wanted to like the Osprey more due to the extra pouch and especially the external water bottle holder, but when fully loaded up with clothing, food, and water for a normal day hike, the Osprey was noticeably uncomfortable, while the Sea To Summit was a dream to carry the light load. The only inconvenience being having to take one shoulder strap off and swinging the bag around to the front so I could get my water bottle out. However, I decided this was worth the extra comfort, and being able to enjoy nature without the constant reminder that I’m wearing uncomfortable straps. I might actually try and sew on my own water bottle holder, or perhaps do this on the front side of the straps so I can have super easy access, while also balancing the packs weight. Hope this helps someone! If not, do what I did, but both of them, load them up, try them out, and return the one you find less comfortable.
Be great to have one of these in your main pack, to be used as a scouting kit when your away from your camp.
I would probably choose the Osprey as a back up pack/foraging bag for multi-day camping, as it would stand alone better. The Sea to Summit would better serve as a back up bag within my bag, in case I need to gather/carry stuff beyond my main bag's capacity. At 3 ozs. and such a small footprint, I could carry that as part of my EDC kit with ease.
Charles Collier nice!!
I’m so glad you picked Osprey since I ordered it before I saw this video 🙂
i think if the velcro on the osprey's stuff sack was differently positioned it could shrink down as much as the sea to summit one, since it isn't very squished when packed up.
Awesome! These are the size for taking on backpacking trips. Would like to see a sternum strap.
Hiker Marapese I would agree on the sternum strap
good bag . good video . I think Osprey bag is very option for cabin luggage & backup shopping bag for office trips
Awesome! I love Osprey. I have a Kestrel. My brother has the Aether and the brain on that pack actually converts into a daypack. Definitely going to get one of the osprey daypacks🙂 Thanks for the heads up and great review😀🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wondering what the max weight load capacity would be on these?
Wish Osprey would have put another water bottle pocket on the right side of the pack. I know that it would load the bag down significantly, but it would allow light, bulky clothing/shelter stored in the main compartment with hydration on the sides. As it is, it would be too unbalanced as a small pack for me with 32oz on one side.
That Osprey looks nice. I have the Cotopaxi version of these, which has been pretty nice. A bit heavier but also has water bladder capability. Also glad it has the second small pocket for keys, etc.
Thanks for the straightforward review. I actually purchased the Osprey based on your review.
Might consider for travel this year
Is it water proof or resistant?
Solid Review. Thanks.
Have you looked at some of the other amazon knockoffs?
maybe I should get these for the market in Los Angeles specifically you have to buy plastic bags so i could probably use it whenever i walk to the market
Great review!
First place where it the small functions that made the choice for the Osprey made it easier.
Thank you!
Is the osprey good for mountain biking?
The one be good for kids...both are good.
This is definitely a cool concept. Great video as always!
I have a Venture Pal folding pack, it’s an excellent pack.
What kind of Lowepro bag is that ? What do they call it ?
Great video!
Why are YKK Zippers better than others? Great video. Very helpful.
for me i would go for osprey ..can hold 13 inch mac book air?
Yes. I would believe you. Been buying these kind of packs for $9 off Aliexpress for months. I use them to attach to my main load if the main load exceeds the...main load.
I was thinking of buying that osprey seeing all thoses adds on instagram and facebook and i was wondering if they were great. And looks like they are!
Thank you
I was really debating between these two. Thanks for the video, I definitely choose the better bag - Osprey
nice review ! is this 2 bags are water resistance? just curious! thanks ahead!
Great, I can get one of those to keep in my daypack in case I need a daypack... 🤔
I wonder how many of these tiny daypacks would fit into one daypack?
@@user-ec2kd8sz3t lol
Great review! Have you ever checked out the Mystery Ranch in and out pack? I think that you would like that one
Like the bigger one great presentation...!
Your channel is very good...!!!
Bought a couple of things already that You have presented...trying all the time to use the links for amazon...AMAZON USA doesn’t ship to Germany 😩 if I’m in the USA for business will definitely use Your links...thanks
Harold William Knox thank you sir, glad you enjoy the channel
Good backup packs!
I look for colors which are less attractive to the eye. I do not want to stand out all the time. I am a big fan of grey and foliage green. They blend in better.
Tom Olofsson the osprey has a grey/Black color
gideonstactical Perfect.
Tom I think the same and hate when backpack manufactures only give you bright color options.
@@robertocalderonabogado1427 Most likely to be seen on Mountains etc
What about Naturehike?
Your dog is huge!! Wow, how much does that dog weigh?
Very interesting pack.may need to check it out
Great video.
What is the model of that camera bag you stuffed into the packs?
David Hargis it’s a low pro
Awesome video as usual, question, have you considered doing a review on the scandinavian gear 65L pack? Everyone seems to rave about it. I wanna see your perspective!
Nice. Thank you for the video!
hi, what song playing on the first minute?
With how these pack down i'd throw them in the bottom of my go-bag just in case something happens to my main pack
Gotta have those YKK zippers.
thanks for showing. I gotta get me one of those. will buy with your link
Very cool pack! Great review!
These are similar to Pacific North West Sea2 Sky pack.
Have you checked out the Tortuga version?
The Happy Hour Hound Way too heavy, from what I saw. More than 2x the weight. Almost 3x.
Maxpedition made something like that once upon a time.
For This Land I remember that but I think they were around $50
Yeah, they were. Never did have one but always wanted one. Not sure if they were ever worth it or not. Given that they discontinued them I would guess not. This looks like a more lightweight and economical step up to be honest.
Hey Aaron, just wondering if osprey offers the same amazing warranty on this stuff pack that they do on their regular packs.
You hit it on the mark!
Cheers for the vid - nice one!
This really helped me in the daypack jungle. Thank you gideonstactical
! Can you swim with them or expose this guys for water ?
Great review :-)
According to the page im looking at they have water resistant fabric that holds up in light rain, or short periods of more heavy rain...
Was that a bear running down the mountain in the beginning?
Or looks like a dog probably
Well good morning
I sent you a message on ig. Hoping to hear from ya. awesome video. Ill look for the sea to summit.
gracias
It's a good review , i am a big fan of mini bags like this ( i have 8 various types )they are all worth there weight . Keep them in your regular pack / car for extra capacity . I sometimes have a moan , this time video is top notch . Tks
Like.
First! Also an awesome video(: