I used to do PR and Marketing for Sea to Summit in the UK a few years ago. They make superb quality lightweight gear, I still use it now, has lasted really well. The company are great people too, all genuninely passionate outdoor people. Tim (the owner) is a legend - was the first person ever to walk from the sea (at the Bay of Bengal) to the summit of Mt. Everest - hence the brand’s name 😊
thanks for that, not often a past employee rates the company they left so respect on that. Nice to know a bit about the people at the company too.If you ever see Tim let him know your comment has endeared me to buy more gear from them. Everything I've bought to date has been excellent quality.
I LOOOOVE this tent! I bought it (the TR2) early spring 2021, and it has joined me on several trips in varying conditions. I have set it up on bumpy grassy terrain on sandy soil, in hot and dry weather as well as pouring rain. It has performed outstandingly. It is easy to set up, easy to pack. Even my spouse, who was not an a fan of camping, has been joining me more on camping after we bought this tent. The main pros for us are the double entrance/exits, and headroom. We can both sit comfortably upright playing cards and boardgames inside, get dressed etc. Another thing is that it fits an exped duo lw (we have the UL winter version) perfectly, making it feel extra roomy while sleeping, and allowa for super comfortable and undisturbed sleep. It still allows for extra space in the foot-end for gear or even smaller backpacks. We also bought the additional gear shelf (can't remember the name. Gear loft?), and it makes organizing a breeze! It's easy to put up a drying line inside for wet clothes too. I was not a fan of the light bar thingy. We prefer hanging our lamp of choice in the loops instead. You didn't mention the stargaze function. If no rain is forecasted, you can pitch the tent with the rainfly rolled up only over the center above the mesh tent. You now have free view atound and above you. If it suddenly starts to rain after all (the weather is super unstable where I live), you can easily drag the fly over the mesh tent, and secure it, to stay dry the rest of the night. I got it quite a bit cheaper than the original price on a promotion sale, but I really could have paid more now that I have tried it.
Ive done over 300 miles thru hiking with this tent. 200 alone 100 with my adult daughter. I love it it no problems, no condensation, performed well on less than ideal ground, liveable but cosy space for two palace for one and up in minutes after the first few days.
Will be interested to learn how it does in real-life, getting in/out in the rain (calm as well as breezy/windy) Some tents get you wet from the door flap, and/or the loss of vestibule/tent protection when the door is unzipped, especially if secured to the side to avoid that "face slap of wet rainfly". The interior height/usable space looks appealing for hunkering in during bad weather, tall hikers, use as a base camp etc. For hot sunny weather, the option of making a sun shade from the fly is certainly an asset for areas short on trees/natural shade. Looking forward to future updates on this tent!
I love that the interior can be taken down before the fly. There have been so many times that I've had to take camp down in the rain. Finally a different tent design! Love it! Thanks for the video.
At $750 in Australia, This thing is ridiculously overpriced for what you have just shown me. I love my sea to summit gear, but I doubt it's worth the price.
Almost nothing from Sea To Summit is worth anywhere near the price.. The Americans and Europeans make way better gear at much better prices. Sea To Summit stuff is just designed in Australia and made in China.
The MSR Freelite 2 is almost the same tent; they also make a non ultralight version called Hubba Hubba thats not even a pound heavier (still pretty light IMO). Maybe you can get them cheaper.
This tent didn't fare too well in Section Hikers' review. The apex vent leaked in light rain and there were some quality issues as well. I think it's also a little too narrow for two people.
@@kusteexplorer Any seasoned thru hiker will almost exclusively use 3 season tents in the worst of conditions. I've done a hand full of 2K mile thru hikes and the only time I've ever use a 4 season is for large group mountaineering.
I just bought this tent and used it in the Ozarks in Arkansas for the new year holiday. Definitely love this overall. Sadly, the rain fly did have a couple of leaks which I’m sure I’ll have no issues replacing, but I’ll find out shortly. It was about 10°F on 1/2/2022. The inside of the tent was actually about 29°F while I wasn’t inside, and warmed up to around 36°F with me inside. Love the design. Nothing bad to say about it so far (aside from the leaks, but again, I’m sure this will be easily replaceable). As far as hangout mode, I think this would be good for a day on the beach. I believe it’s depicted by SeaToSummit.
Thanks for your comments. I have the Alto TR1 - the 2 lb 7 oz lightweight solo version of the Telos which I used for 4 weeks in Colorado this summer / fall. As a 70 YO I fully appreciated the light weight and the uniquely designed interior space - extra width just where you need it the most. Monsoon rains presented no issues. The ample fly and more than adequate bathtub floor kept me dry and the ability to pitch the tent from the inside under the fly during real rains was especially appreciated. Keep on keeping on!
I am an avid long distance kayaker. I use the Telos 3+ and it is a life saver in the bush from a long day out on the water. I love everything about the tent.
I'm really impressed with this tent. As far as the hangout mode, I usually hike with a guide's tarp which I use basically for this purpose. In my area there are a lot of bears. I wouldn't want to cook in the hangout mode because I wouldn't want to get any odors on my tent. I normally cook well away from my tent.
That's an excellent thought re: not cooking in hangout mode because of odor transfer. I've not yet had to cook in my tent vestibule but I've been aware that it's a possibility, but now I'm re-thinking! Have to weigh the risk of attracting bear with how bad a downpour I'd be in
Great video. Looks like a great tent. One feature I love is the all mesh upper so when you don’t need the fly, you get full view outside. I have the REI Quarter Dome 2, which is very similar: good footprint size, high ridge with vertical walls, full mesh upper, color coded tabs and just under 4lbs. I love it and it’s only $350. Might be worth your watchers considering for a bit less money. I do like the hang out mode of this one, but wouldn’t spend the extra $150 to have it. Thanks for the review
"Why tent maker's didn't think of this" -> wind profile? What you get now with this inverted bar V shape is essentially rectangular shape of the tent and I'd be a bit worried using that in high wind conditions. This is also my concern with the "hangout mode", because it's literally like a deployed parachute.
I love this tent it is a little heavy but what you get in return it's worth it. I spent 3 weeks in this tent on the AT and loved it it feels huge inside. Awesome video as always.
Very well thought out and unique design. The bags are interesting, especially considering they are the only company that I know of that was smart enough to make their air mattress bag also be the pump sack. Very smart duo purpose piece of gear
Three pounds, 10 ounces is not light. Reports of the fly leaking, for $500 ? That is absolutely inadequate, unacceptable. Reports that it’s a bit narrow for two? Absorbs rain water and therefore sags and weighs even more? Sheesh, Ehhh…. I’ll stay with my $600 palace, that weighs less than two pounds, and never absorbs rain water. Texas
Sea to Summit makes some incredible gear and this tent looks like it's going to be another great piece! I like all those unique features, they really looked at some of the issues with a normal tent and improved them. I'm not going to rush out and get one because my current tent collection is good enough, but this one would definitely be at the top of my list if I was shopping. Great video!
Great video and review. Extra bonus points for the video of the dog drinking the water in your rain test. I recently bought the Telos 2 and I feel that it is just quality throughout. I’m also happy with my Big Agnes copper spur UL, though again the Telos quality just shines
I love Sea to Summit, I have put their gear through -20f below and 4 days of storms. Price of this is little high, weight is a little heavy but the space looks amazing. I do like the hang out mode and would use it, this way you don't need to pay for a dyneema tarp if you are out on a day trip or want to make some lunch, out of a deluge. Bravo missio brother, we dig it!
While writing; try pressing and holding down ALT while typing in "0176" on the number pads. And feel free to try out numbers up to "0179" too. Everyone will think you are a wizard, lol! (Only works on computers)
At 1,657g (total weight according to S2S, and please be sure to state metric weights in your videos for us folks not in the U.S.), this tent is not really lightweight. On the other hand, it is freestanding, and has some very nifty features like the hangout (shade mode!), and that makes it more versatile in some areas than, say, my Duplex (which costs about the same). The Telos is a different animal. Don‘t think I‘d ever buy it due to its weight, but love the courage S2S is showing in pioneering some new designs.
@@amythinks Thanks for taking your time to express your disgruntlement at my request. At least it made me aware that not everyone is hip to the fact that RUclipsrs stand to vastly increase their global appeal by also addressing the billions who use the metric system. I've seen a lot of RUclipsrs - also a great many based in the U.S. - who also appeal to the metric crowd. Sure, I (and all other viewers) could individually go and do the conversions, but a reviewer usually has a look at the manufacturer's website before posting a review, and many manufacturers also state specs in metric units. Having them stated alongside the non-metric specs in a RUclips review is a huge convenience factor for many of us. Anyhow, if you think we should all just go and do the math, you're entitled to your opinion. In case you're interested, I'll add that the U.S., Liberia and Myanmar are (or at least, in 2019, were) the only countries still using the Imperial (non-metric) system. So stating metric figures would seem to make more sense unless one wishes to appeal only to viewers in those three counties.
@@scottbecker3485 This isn't an issue of imperial vs metric nor is this about viewership, which I can assure would be unaffected (as a digital marketer, I have some sense of what moves the needle). Your request "be sure to" was entitled rather than "it would be really helpful if" or "I'd love it if you could...".But valiant attempt at redirecting. Golf clap.
@@amythinks Point taken. So it was my wording that prompted you to think I was feeling „entitled“. By explaining the metric/Imperial thing, I wasn‘t trying to deflect, but simply hadn‘t understood your specific gripe, since you only now stated it clearly. In your first response, you only admonished me that it‘s a free video, and that I should go and do my own conversions. Apart from your tonality being less than friendly, your point got lost - at least to me. But I‘m happy to read your clarification and know you as a person who is definitely good at formulating things clearly. So again: Point taken. I suppose I was just not concentrating well enough on coming across in a less pushy way. Food for thought before I write my next comment on whatever video. May I humbly suggest you, too, consider how your first response came across? Let‘s all try to help each other be better people, rather than just venting and thereby disguising our true thoughts. Peace.
Good thing he tried it in the desert. If you live in a place where it rains reasonably often you can expect the inside of this tent to be wet long before you get the rain fly over it. I guess most tent makers assume that no one goes camping unless the weather report says zero rain. That's probably a safe bet for most folks since my wife won't go with me unless the weather looks perfect. I however camp in all seasons and all weather which means I sometimes set up camp in the rain and even the snow. Waking up to fresh snow is truly magical! Depending on the season, location, weather, etc. I camp with a tent, a hammock or a tarp. The one thing that all 3 have in common is that I can put up something to keep the area dry before setting up my sleeping area. A tarp is pretty obvious since it is the only thing going up and it stops the rain. Put down a ground sheet and Bob's your uncle. When I use a hammock I set up the tarp first if the weather is bad then set up the hammock in the rain free area under the tarp. My hammock stays dry. I long ago stopped using tents that expect me to set them up and then put a rain fly over my (now wet) interior. My current tent goes up as a single unit with the fly attached to the tent which is attached to the ground sheet. The inside stays absolutely and totally dry no matter the weather.
The "hangout mode" is basically what the USMC Combat Tent does, the rain fly can be set up separately from the tent as a shade cover and is well used when we are in the desert.
I’m actually set in the 2 person tent category right now with a Big Agnes Copper Spur and a Mountain Hardware Aspect (both are outstanding). But this Sea to Summit has me thinking maybe I could use one more!? The hang out mode is an awesome idea. I’ve seen car camp tents that can do something similar, but being able to put up a structured canopy in the backcountry is awesome.
All of my most memorable experiences with tents were at the end of the days hiking rushing to put the tent up before the havens opened up and rained all over me.. looking forward to your wet weather review of this tent.
As usual, Sea to Summit doesn't fail to innovate. Very interesting design and not surprising for Sea to Summit, it seems to be very well made with quality materials including some very clever custom fastener bits.
Awesome! I like the packed away single component which can be carried outside a smaller backpack. I like the multifunction bags, I like the hangout mode for sun and wind shade. I wouldn’t hesitate to spend that money. Good quality is priceless. I bought an Argentinian knife/fork/spoon set decades ago, and use them everyday for lunch. I wish I’d bought several. I have a Colmans salt and pepper set i carry when flying (or used to), i have a pair of snow overshoes I use as storage bags for my camping gear, I’d like for there to be a very light inflatable sleeping bag/sleeve which can also serve as a sponge wash bathing bag (turn it outside in to wash and back to dry, even sleep in it in the open when necessary), but I have to replace my missing camp stove. Torches, there are so many great ones. There could be an over shoe band that charges things while you are walking, and then there is the multi tool!
Can you set the fly up before the rest of the tent? That would be a huge advantage, set up the poles and the fly in the rain then set up the rest under the fly.
The Hubba Hubba Nx 2 goes for about $450 these days, you probably got a sale. When these are around for a bit and go on sale too, can probably find them for mid $300s someday.
I have been backpacking for over 50 years. I started backpacking when man first walked on the moon (July 1969). I was 16 and now at 69 I still go backpacking with my wife of 49 years. I am always looking for ways to lighten my pack. We have the MSR Hubba Hubba tent and it has served us well. But your tent looks interesting.
Sorry, I'm in the UK, sideways rain here means that "innovative" vent on the top is an absolute liability, that would be like a waterfall in to the tent in a storm. And yes I know you can close it down, but condensation is bad enough here as it is, I need a vent I can have open in the rain otherwise I may aswell not bother with the fly lol.
I'm a bit worried about that upper vent, too. Garden hose level "rain" isn't really relevant. Appreciated. But not in any like either heavy or steady rains.
I disagree. It looks awful. A high standing tent in any wind is not good. Add a few large flaps and the thing and it becomes a para glider. sprinkle a little rain in there and you have a hell hole. Not to mention 4lbs?!?
The "hang out mode" seems like a clever idea, at least with the added high poles. But apart from that, I have seen many of these features on tents 20 years ago. And it seems that Sea to Summit is merely acknowledging what most of us had already done on our own- remove the inner tent and carry it separately, carry the fly separately to dry it or to distribute weight, etc. I mean, it's nice they give you an extra bag for that, but... not exactly a new idea. The frame shape does seem unusual, but l would have to see how it actually performs in high winds.
It looks nice in the elevated position! I would appreciate, when standing like that if mesh was hanging down to the ground and attached to a floor. I just dont like mosquitos.
Tents, that have that much screen in them suck,If you are camping around sand. When the wind blows,the find sand sifts through the screen and it is terrible!! Don’t think that the rain fly helps because it doesn’t. Worked as a river guide for two decades . Don’t mean to diss on you tent ,but try to stay in it on an extended river trip.
@3:44 that plastic clip seems like a point of weakness at a glance. Why not just take that corded loop and place it over the metal ball end then secure the ridge overtop? Surely that would be a more secure, stable, and presumably longer-lasting connection provided the ridge boot can still fit overtop.
It's an interesting looking tent! Pretty flash. My immediate thought with the high ridgeline is to wonder how well this will do in sustained high winds--coastal or mountainous hiking are often done in windy or stormy conditions which you can't just wait out, and that high ridgeline looks like a big sail at the moment. Can you update again after you've seen it handle storms with higher winds, to compare how it does to tents with a lower profile? Great video, thanks!
I've got the Mountain Hardwear SuperMegaUL 2, which seems really similar to the Sea to Summit, high sideline and all. It's actually held up really well in very strong winds! You just have to make sure to properly use the guy lines. It's even worked on granite ridgelines
I have been looking at this one for my son and I. I have a BA Copper Spur 1P for myself, but something like this would be pretty awesome for the kiddo and myself.
Very gorgeous looks simple to set up and I like it. What more can you really ask for, except a cheaper price. I'm not able to buy anything from sea to Summit just about everything they have is Way Beyond me and I've been backpacking for quite some time. So as far as the tenth goes if it was given to me I most definitely would take it, it's an excellent tent but as far as me buying it no no no. I also like the hang out mode. Thanks for the video and thanks for the demonstration I definitely give the tent a thumbs up. Have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry!
I transporting my tent (sierra design meteor 2) like this since 4 years... Poles vertical on my pack, tent inside the pack (at the bottom, with the sleeping bag) and fly outside, in a small pocket like an Nalgene 1L.
haven't been backpacking that much, just a 3 month trip on the PCT.. actually set up my tent I think 3 times during that 3 months, the rest of the time I slept outside. I think Hangout mode might be the most used mode for me.
Good to see that Sea to Summit is making some innovative tents. As for me, I'm hiking all day and just crawling into the tent at night for a few hours sleep, so I prefer something lighter such as sub-2 pound category. For many people I'm sure this will be great.
If I were doing more wilderness citizen science backpacking, with extended stays in camps, this would definitely be a tent worth considering. The ideas on the guy lines are great. And I am going to steal the fly side attachment peg. I hike in rock slab and rooty country so carry 3-4 made up guy line extenders to get over obstacles or tie off to rocks.
All Sea to Summit products I have used have been good quality. Looks like a good tent. The company has obviously well thought out this product. Some great features. I would definitely consider using this tent. And the price: basically you get what you pay for. I like versatility of the rain fly used as itself also. Looks to be a winner. Would like to see it tested in extreme weather conditions such as rain, snow, and wind. I love your opening humor. Right on, bro.
Great first look! This and I think the Alto series were the tents for 2021 that most channels were talking about. And I'm going to trash it. Not a knock against your review which was great! 👍 But $500 for a just about 4lb tent is absurd. Combo this with the $400 spark and you have $1k for 2 items that aren't even ultra light. Might as well go dyneema and get the altaplex and arc blast. S2S charges Zpacks prices for Gonex weight 🤣🤣🤣
Great look? A high standing tent with a lot of flaps at the top is a nightmare in the wind. Forget about it if you add a little bit of rain to the wind. And four pounds is atrocious.
Awesome tent no doubt, but not $500 awesome. Props for the rain so color code system, that is a really cool idea. I would have to really think about paying more than $100 for it to be honest. Waaayy too many other options available for $500! Hell, you could put together a real decent beginners backpack kit for the price of this single tent.
Inwas so close to buy this tent. I really like their innovative thinking. Indid end up not buying it as I talked to someone that had tested the tent. Most of the cool inovative things didn’t work really well. That said that was in europe and not sunny Arizona. He liked the size, he liked the space and the different modes you could use it in. Unfortunately he said it didnt work that well in rainy/snowy northern europe. First the fabrike riped a little beside the zipper on the first try, the light bar was very difficult to connect and did fall own. The top of the tent in that construction they have didn’t make the rain slide down but was collected at the top reaultin on water inside the tent, also the ventilation on the roof did get rain and snow as the angel of the little roof (I have no idea what you call it). It made me a little worried and said becours when checking it out I had fallen in love with it. Maybe he just had bad luck or something but it was a little to expensive for me to take that chance. I am pretty sure it is an awesome tent if you live in a different climate than ours here in Sweden. I did by a norvegian tent instead. Two things thats good with that is that it is local, and the second is that the fabric is dark. Thats kind of important here in the north with the midnight sun. But great review and as I said.. it wasn’t me that tested it and he might just had a bad example and I am sure if will be great for others 💪🏻
I have yet to use this tent in real inclement weather, so this is an incomplete test at the moment. I can't say if what your friend experienced would be universal or if that person just didn't set it up right. One thing I liked about the tent is how easy it was to really secure the rain fly and make it very snug and tight. With the guy lines tensioned out, it felt super sturdy and rigid, like it could shed a good bit of snow and certainly rain without any pooling up on top. (I rigorously sprayed the tent with my hose and it shed water well). I'd imagine if rain or snow was blowing in sideways, you just wouldn't want to have the vent fully open, but otherwise I think it would be fine. The fabric was a thicker denier than some of the UL tents I've used and seemed more resistant to tearing, but that would only reveal itself in time. But I certainly had no tears in mine. But yes, I did notice the light bar being a little finicky. Can it withstand Scandinavian weather? You might be better off with something designed specifically for your more brutal weather. But for most of us in North America I think this tent would be great. And thank you!
ive done 300 miles in mine in late september northern england and i didnt encounter any issues. I didnt use the light bar as its a gimmick so i cant say for that but as a functional tent in wet and windy it worked really well.
Thanks for the feedback, Max. May I ask which was that Norwegian tent you decided on, was it Bergans Trollhetta by any chance? Tack och god fortsättning!
UV Rating? This would be great in Australia also. The Hangout mode is a great idea as a shelter for the beach also. Repair Kit? For tears and Fire Fairy damage. Combustibility?
Like it, but for the price, it might be better for someone who camps, but would like the hang out mode to use at the beach or at summer baseball tournaments.
It's got some thoughtful design aspects that I've seen in other tents but only one or two of and not all in one. The color coded fly should just be a no brainer auto include for any non simetrical tent imo. The "hasty hooch" configuration (what they call "hang out" mode) is a personal requirement for any tent I use. The weight seems really good although time will tell if the tent itself is as bomb proof as the extra pockets make the interior mess issue lol. I also like how they made the top cross bar at an upward angle for extra lift rather than in line with the primary frame pole since those tend to bend down making a dome and reducing accessibility like you mentioned. I usually break my tent down into sections anyway for various set ups (like the aforementioned hasty hooch) and weight balance distribution in my pack but the additional sacks for the same purpose are nice even if they add a tad bit of weight since you get the additional versatility and pockets out of them. For $500 it feels a bit much or at the very least fairly niche, but thats also coming from someone who regularly lugs around a 50lb+ ruck and uses 6lb+ military tents where durability and function take priority over weight, as much as I'd love to cut a bunch. But for those whove already cut the weight and bulk of the other big items and have the budget this looks promising.
Glad you caught my pun! As for quirks I didn't love: the tent is a little more cumbersome to pack up into its two sacks than a tent that only has one. The light bar was finicky to attach. And if I dropped the guy lines on the ground they'd blend in so well I had a hard time finding them! But that's all very minor stuff.
I'm just getting started in backpacking (again after 30 years) and plan on a two week trip in the summer. It looks like this will be the tent I plan on buying. Thanks for the review.
Get a Lanshan Pro 2 for $100 or so and much less weight and then if you ever feel like carrying more weight and spending more money you can always buy it... My 2 cents
@BnORailFan Like others have suggested above, I would consider other options if you are looking to get a quality tent. StS is a great brand but the price of this tent for the weight is quite ludicrous. This tent is over 3.5 lbs as a 2P backpacking tent. For that price, you should be getting a much lighter product. Freestanding tents will typically be heavier than non-freestanding tents. If you are used to tent poles/frames and don't like to stake out or use trekking poles - freestanding is your pick. Here are some options that are similar to this tent in price and function - Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 Tent - $500 (3.1 lbs) REI Co-op Quarter Dome SL 2 Tent - $380 (2.9 lbs) MSR Hubba Hubba NX 2 Tent - $350 (3.9 lbs) If you want to get the lightest tent for your money, you could go non-standing. Properly staked out these are just as durable as poled tents for most weather situations. Zpacks Duplex (Highly Recommend) - $699 (1.3 lbs) Lanshan 3F UL 2 Person Tent - $160 (2.5 lbs) Six Moon Designs Haven - $220 (1.2 lbs) There are lots of good tents beyond these. Let me know if you have questions!
Great video! I would love to see a follow up that shows how well the hangout mode performs in the wind or rain. I cycled through Namibia in 2019 and something like that would have come in useful! Also - how stable does the mesh look? I'm not a fan of soo much Mesh.
looks to me like the Nemo Hornet. I like the roof vent though. as for the fair share rig, Nemo's been doing the split pack option for sharing the load for years. Surprised you didn't call that out. It does have some awesome features though, like the tent pouch converted to pocket and the fly as a shade options.
Hello... I actually do have a question... We just bought the tent and set it up in the living room 😅 So everything is fine and looks great but there was a small pole in our pole bag which we don't know for what it is. I'm not sure if it was packed by mistake or if we're supposed to use it somewhere. 🤔😅 Thanks for any advice.
This tent is just ok. In wet or very humid weather you have to have the zip at the "ventilation port" closed or water collects on the fly above and drips through on to you and your gear. Which kind of defies the point of having it there in the first place.
It’s similar to the Huba Huba space wise. I like the separate packing bags for fly and inner, (going to steal that idea) and the fact you can use them as storage in the tent. Hangout mode looks interesting, not sure how much I’d use it. And going to see if I can do it with Huba Huba.
We loved our Huba Hubas (both the original and current versions). Except the fly always relaxes overnight and ends up touching the tent and getting it wet. This one doesn’t do that and has superior ventilation. The only flaw with the tent is fabric loop used to keep the fly door open. Impossible to undo one handed in the dark. Solved with a ring of pex.
Looks like a great tent! I think the most appealing thing about hangout mode is I could bring it to the beach when meeting up with friends and eliminate the need for a separate sun shelter tent that can easily cost $100+. How do you think it would hold up to a coastal breeze when pegged in sand?
Nice product for a first try at tents. I certainly trust the brand. Personally, I’d never put those potentially dirty /muddy /wet storage sacks inside my tent. And those clips add unnecessary weight.
I used to do PR and Marketing for Sea to Summit in the UK a few years ago. They make superb quality lightweight gear, I still use it now, has lasted really well. The company are great people too, all genuninely passionate outdoor people. Tim (the owner) is a legend - was the first person ever to walk from the sea (at the Bay of Bengal) to the summit of Mt. Everest - hence the brand’s name 😊
That’s so interesting! Seems like a cool company
thanks for that, not often a past employee rates the company they left so respect on that. Nice to know a bit about the people at the company too.If you ever see Tim let him know your comment has endeared me to buy more gear from them. Everything I've bought to date has been excellent quality.
I LOOOOVE this tent! I bought it (the TR2) early spring 2021, and it has joined me on several trips in varying conditions. I have set it up on bumpy grassy terrain on sandy soil, in hot and dry weather as well as pouring rain. It has performed outstandingly. It is easy to set up, easy to pack. Even my spouse, who was not an a fan of camping, has been joining me more on camping after we bought this tent. The main pros for us are the double entrance/exits, and headroom. We can both sit comfortably upright playing cards and boardgames inside, get dressed etc. Another thing is that it fits an exped duo lw (we have the UL winter version) perfectly, making it feel extra roomy while sleeping, and allowa for super comfortable and undisturbed sleep. It still allows for extra space in the foot-end for gear or even smaller backpacks. We also bought the additional gear shelf (can't remember the name. Gear loft?), and it makes organizing a breeze! It's easy to put up a drying line inside for wet clothes too. I was not a fan of the light bar thingy. We prefer hanging our lamp of choice in the loops instead.
You didn't mention the stargaze function. If no rain is forecasted, you can pitch the tent with the rainfly rolled up only over the center above the mesh tent. You now have free view atound and above you. If it suddenly starts to rain after all (the weather is super unstable where I live), you can easily drag the fly over the mesh tent, and secure it, to stay dry the rest of the night.
I got it quite a bit cheaper than the original price on a promotion sale, but I really could have paid more now that I have tried it.
Wow, now this is helpful! Thanks so much for taking the time to add your insight! Much appreciated🙏
I have had this tent almost a year, 4 back packing trips and 8 car camping trips. I love everything about it. Even with condensation
Love this tent! Served me well in Yosemite backcountry. Two small people that love each other, really one big guy tent. Two thumbs up.
Ive done over 300 miles thru hiking with this tent. 200 alone 100 with my adult daughter. I love it it no problems, no condensation, performed well on less than ideal ground, liveable but cosy space for two palace for one and up in minutes after the first few days.
Seems like you can't have the vent open when it's raining more than a sprinkle from looks, what do you think
Glad to hear it's performed well for you! As for the vent, I think it can handle downpours as long as wind is not also part of the equation.
Will be interested to learn how it does in real-life, getting in/out in the rain (calm as well as breezy/windy) Some tents get you wet from the door flap, and/or the loss of vestibule/tent protection when the door is unzipped, especially if secured to the side to avoid that "face slap of wet rainfly". The interior height/usable space looks appealing for hunkering in during bad weather, tall hikers, use as a base camp etc. For hot sunny weather, the option of making a sun shade from the fly is certainly an asset for areas short on trees/natural shade. Looking forward to future updates on this tent!
For sure, I look forward to getting more time in this baby. But the high walled entrance is amazing. I love not having to army crawl inside.
I love that the interior can be taken down before the fly. There have been so many times that I've had to take camp down in the rain. Finally a different tent design! Love it! Thanks for the video.
At $750 in Australia, This thing is ridiculously overpriced for what you have just shown me. I love my sea to summit gear, but I doubt it's worth the price.
No hometown discount? Dang that's pricey!
Almost nothing from Sea To Summit is worth anywhere near the price.. The Americans and Europeans make way better gear at much better prices. Sea To Summit stuff is just designed in Australia and made in China.
The MSR Freelite 2 is almost the same tent; they also make a non ultralight version called Hubba Hubba thats not even a pound heavier (still pretty light IMO). Maybe you can get them cheaper.
I cycled 22 000km in Australia alone with a AU$300 tent...and I am leaving the 1st of April again on a 5 000km+ trip...same tent....
@@BackpackingTV USD$500 is about AUD$750
This tent didn't fare too well in Section Hikers' review. The apex vent leaked in light rain and there were some quality issues as well. I think it's also a little too narrow for two people.
Who is Section Hiker?
@@joebuck4496 That would be Philip Werner.
Thank you. Useful extra info.
Thanks! Seems fine for light summer hiking but not an all around 4 season tent
@@kusteexplorer Any seasoned thru hiker will almost exclusively use 3 season tents in the worst of conditions. I've done a hand full of 2K mile thru hikes and the only time I've ever use a 4 season is for large group mountaineering.
I just bought this tent and used it in the Ozarks in Arkansas for the new year holiday. Definitely love this overall. Sadly, the rain fly did have a couple of leaks which I’m sure I’ll have no issues replacing, but I’ll find out shortly. It was about 10°F on 1/2/2022. The inside of the tent was actually about 29°F while I wasn’t inside, and warmed up to around 36°F with me inside. Love the design. Nothing bad to say about it so far (aside from the leaks, but again, I’m sure this will be easily replaceable). As far as hangout mode, I think this would be good for a day on the beach. I believe it’s depicted by SeaToSummit.
There is wind on the beach.
Thanks for your comments. I have the Alto TR1 - the 2 lb 7 oz lightweight solo version of the Telos which I used for 4 weeks in Colorado this summer / fall. As a 70 YO I fully appreciated the light weight and the uniquely designed interior space - extra width just where you need it the most. Monsoon rains presented no issues. The ample fly and more than adequate bathtub floor kept me dry and the ability to pitch the tent from the inside under the fly during real rains was especially appreciated. Keep on keeping on!
Glad to hear from people who've been out in the field with these babies! I need to try the Altro version too. Cheers!
I am an avid long distance kayaker. I use the Telos 3+ and it is a life saver in the bush from a long day out on the water. I love everything about the tent.
I'm really impressed with this tent. As far as the hangout mode, I usually hike with a guide's tarp which I use basically for this purpose. In my area there are a lot of bears. I wouldn't want to cook in the hangout mode because I wouldn't want to get any odors on my tent. I normally cook well away from my tent.
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That's an excellent thought re: not cooking in hangout mode because of odor transfer. I've not yet had to cook in my tent vestibule but I've been aware that it's a possibility, but now I'm re-thinking! Have to weigh the risk of attracting bear with how bad a downpour I'd be in
Great video. Looks like a great tent. One feature I love is the all mesh upper so when you don’t need the fly, you get full view outside. I have the REI Quarter Dome 2, which is very similar: good footprint size, high ridge with vertical walls, full mesh upper, color coded tabs and just under 4lbs. I love it and it’s only $350. Might be worth your watchers considering for a bit less money. I do like the hang out mode of this one, but wouldn’t spend the extra $150 to have it. Thanks for the review
"Why tent maker's didn't think of this" -> wind profile? What you get now with this inverted bar V shape is essentially rectangular shape of the tent and I'd be a bit worried using that in high wind conditions. This is also my concern with the "hangout mode", because it's literally like a deployed parachute.
I second to that.
a 15D rain fly isn’t good independently the shape of the tent /:
@@petercornetet8267 guess what, MSR Carbon Reflex tent's rainfly is only 7D, AND the floor is 15D
Agreed. Its ease of entry compromises its stability / longevity in high wind.
Also, the hangout mode can be done with just about any fly, its frame and 2 walking poles. Obviously on a windless day.
Very cool product. I like how much space it has inside, and the ability to have the fly up without the actual tent under it.
I love this tent it is a little heavy but what you get in return it's worth it. I spent 3 weeks in this tent on the AT and loved it it feels huge inside. Awesome video as always.
Glad to hear it! I really dig all the room inside.
so you're not ultralight anymore since your weight is above 10 pounds, possibly 12 pounds now?
@@the_guardians_of_the_universe yep 12.3 and I carry a chair to 🤣
How do the clips for the fly look? They seem like the most likely point of failure on this tent
@@blackoak4978 I have no worries about the clips they work great and make set up very ez.
Its seems really well made and thought out a bit expensive with the weight over 3 lbs
Five hundo is no small sum.
Very well thought out and unique design. The bags are interesting, especially considering they are the only company that I know of that was smart enough to make their air mattress bag also be the pump sack. Very smart duo purpose piece of gear
Loads do it.
SeatoSummit does have some innovative designs!
At least a half dozen manufacturers are offer this method of inflation beginning about a decade ago. Some work well…others not so much.
@@geraldhenrickson7472 no. They have separate inflation bags. The stuff sack doesn’t turn into the inflation bag
@@mobilewintercamp7515 Yes & No. Usually other manufacturers sell it as a separate item, like my Big Agnes mattress.
Thanks for reviewing this one, Eric. It's a fantastic-looking tent - if I had the shekels, I'd spend for it in a heartbeat.
3 pound 10 ounces, is that really lightweight? Seems heavy to me especially as the inner is all mesh.
I consider anything in the 3 lb range "lightweight," but that's not in the "ultralight" range.
Three pounds, 10 ounces is not light. Reports of the fly leaking, for $500 ? That is absolutely inadequate, unacceptable. Reports that it’s a bit narrow for two? Absorbs rain water and therefore sags and weighs even more? Sheesh, Ehhh…. I’ll stay with my $600 palace, that weighs less than two pounds, and never absorbs rain water. Texas
@@BackpackingTV 58 ounces is closer to the 4 pound range. That's car camping weight. At ultralight prices, no less.
Sea to Summit makes some incredible gear and this tent looks like it's going to be another great piece! I like all those unique features, they really looked at some of the issues with a normal tent and improved them. I'm not going to rush out and get one because my current tent collection is good enough, but this one would definitely be at the top of my list if I was shopping. Great video!
Great video and review. Extra bonus points for the video of the dog drinking the water in your rain test. I recently bought the Telos 2 and I feel that it is just quality throughout. I’m also happy with my Big Agnes copper spur UL, though again the Telos quality just shines
I love Sea to Summit, I have put their gear through -20f below and 4 days of storms. Price of this is little high, weight is a little heavy but the space looks amazing. I do like the hang out mode and would use it, this way you don't need to pay for a dyneema tarp if you are out on a day trip or want to make some lunch, out of a deluge. Bravo missio brother, we dig it!
While writing; try pressing and holding down ALT while typing in "0176" on the number pads. And feel free to try out numbers up to "0179" too. Everyone will think you are a wizard, lol! (Only works on computers)
At 1,657g (total weight according to S2S, and please be sure to state metric weights in your videos for us folks not in the U.S.), this tent is not really lightweight. On the other hand, it is freestanding, and has some very nifty features like the hangout (shade mode!), and that makes it more versatile in some areas than, say, my Duplex (which costs about the same). The Telos is a different animal. Don‘t think I‘d ever buy it due to its weight, but love the courage S2S is showing in pioneering some new designs.
It's a free video. Do your own conversions.
@@amythinks Thanks for taking your time to express your disgruntlement at my request. At least it made me aware that not everyone is hip to the fact that RUclipsrs stand to vastly increase their global appeal by also addressing the billions who use the metric system. I've seen a lot of RUclipsrs - also a great many based in the U.S. - who also appeal to the metric crowd. Sure, I (and all other viewers) could individually go and do the conversions, but a reviewer usually has a look at the manufacturer's website before posting a review, and many manufacturers also state specs in metric units. Having them stated alongside the non-metric specs in a RUclips review is a huge convenience factor for many of us. Anyhow, if you think we should all just go and do the math, you're entitled to your opinion. In case you're interested, I'll add that the U.S., Liberia and Myanmar are (or at least, in 2019, were) the only countries still using the Imperial (non-metric) system. So stating metric figures would seem to make more sense unless one wishes to appeal only to viewers in those three counties.
@@scottbecker3485 This isn't an issue of imperial vs metric nor is this about viewership, which I can assure would be unaffected (as a digital marketer, I have some sense of what moves the needle). Your request "be sure to" was entitled rather than "it would be really helpful if" or "I'd love it if you could...".But valiant attempt at redirecting. Golf clap.
@@amythinks Point taken. So it was my wording that prompted you to think I was feeling „entitled“. By explaining the metric/Imperial thing, I wasn‘t trying to deflect, but simply hadn‘t understood your specific gripe, since you only now stated it clearly. In your first response, you only admonished me that it‘s a free video, and that I should go and do my own conversions. Apart from your tonality being less than friendly, your point got lost - at least to me. But I‘m happy to read your clarification and know you as a person who is definitely good at formulating things clearly. So again: Point taken. I suppose I was just not concentrating well enough on coming across in a less pushy way. Food for thought before I write my next comment on whatever video. May I humbly suggest you, too, consider how your first response came across? Let‘s all try to help each other be better people, rather than just venting and thereby disguising our true thoughts. Peace.
Good thing he tried it in the desert. If you live in a place where it rains reasonably often you can expect the inside of this tent to be wet long before you get the rain fly over it. I guess most tent makers assume that no one goes camping unless the weather report says zero rain. That's probably a safe bet for most folks since my wife won't go with me unless the weather looks perfect. I however camp in all seasons and all weather which means I sometimes set up camp in the rain and even the snow. Waking up to fresh snow is truly magical!
Depending on the season, location, weather, etc. I camp with a tent, a hammock or a tarp. The one thing that all 3 have in common is that I can put up something to keep the area dry before setting up my sleeping area. A tarp is pretty obvious since it is the only thing going up and it stops the rain. Put down a ground sheet and Bob's your uncle. When I use a hammock I set up the tarp first if the weather is bad then set up the hammock in the rain free area under the tarp. My hammock stays dry. I long ago stopped using tents that expect me to set them up and then put a rain fly over my (now wet) interior. My current tent goes up as a single unit with the fly attached to the tent which is attached to the ground sheet. The inside stays absolutely and totally dry no matter the weather.
The "hangout mode" is basically what the USMC Combat Tent does, the rain fly can be set up separately from the tent as a shade cover and is well used when we are in the desert.
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I’m actually set in the 2 person tent category right now with a Big Agnes Copper Spur and a Mountain Hardware Aspect (both are outstanding). But this Sea to Summit has me thinking maybe I could use one more!? The hang out mode is an awesome idea. I’ve seen car camp tents that can do something similar, but being able to put up a structured canopy in the backcountry is awesome.
Thanx for showcasing the tent for us & the vid ✌️
All of my most memorable experiences with tents were at the end of the days hiking rushing to put the tent up before the havens opened up and rained all over me.. looking forward to your wet weather review of this tent.
As usual, Sea to Summit doesn't fail to innovate. Very interesting design and not surprising for Sea to Summit, it seems to be very well made with quality materials including some very clever custom fastener bits.
So, a Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL2, but heavier, more expensive, and unnecessarily complicated? I don't get it.
Thanks for showing the latest gear.
Awesome! I like the packed away single component which can be carried outside a smaller backpack. I like the multifunction bags, I like the hangout mode for sun and wind shade. I wouldn’t hesitate to spend that money. Good quality is priceless. I bought an Argentinian knife/fork/spoon set decades ago, and use them everyday for lunch. I wish I’d bought several. I have a Colmans salt and pepper set i carry when flying (or used to), i have a pair of snow overshoes I use as storage bags for my camping gear, I’d like for there to be a very light inflatable sleeping bag/sleeve which can also serve as a sponge wash bathing bag (turn it outside in to wash and back to dry, even sleep in it in the open when necessary), but I have to replace my missing camp stove. Torches, there are so many great ones. There could be an over shoe band that charges things while you are walking, and then there is the multi tool!
Can you set the fly up before the rest of the tent? That would be a huge advantage, set up the poles and the fly in the rain then set up the rest under the fly.
Yes you can! That's part of its design intent.
I got an MSR Hubba Hubba Nx, circa 2017, from Amazon, brand new, for $289. 3.5 lbs, huge, and a beast. $499 for a tent is way too much.
I have an hubba hubba nx 2 persons and its perfect
The Hubba Hubba Nx 2 goes for about $450 these days, you probably got a sale. When these are around for a bit and go on sale too, can probably find them for mid $300s someday.
Mine was on sale, brand new. It was listed at $420.
That’s the best Hubba series they ever made. I own it also.
I have been backpacking for over 50 years. I started backpacking when man first walked on the moon (July 1969). I was 16 and now at 69 I still go backpacking with my wife of 49 years. I am always looking for ways to lighten my pack. We have the MSR Hubba Hubba tent and it has served us well. But your tent looks interesting.
Sorry, I'm in the UK, sideways rain here means that "innovative" vent on the top is an absolute liability, that would be like a waterfall in to the tent in a storm. And yes I know you can close it down, but condensation is bad enough here as it is, I need a vent I can have open in the rain otherwise I may aswell not bother with the fly lol.
I'm a bit worried about that upper vent, too. Garden hose level "rain" isn't really relevant. Appreciated. But not in any like either heavy or steady rains.
Yeah can't camp in Scotland with this lol
It's always interesting when someone innovates something with a different form factor that changes the way we think and use a product. Bravo 👏
I disagree. It looks awful. A high standing tent in any wind is not good. Add a few large flaps and the thing and it becomes a para glider. sprinkle a little rain in there and you have a hell hole. Not to mention 4lbs?!?
The "hang out mode" seems like a clever idea, at least with the added high poles. But apart from that, I have seen many of these features on tents 20 years ago. And it seems that Sea to Summit is merely acknowledging what most of us had already done on our own- remove the inner tent and carry it separately, carry the fly separately to dry it or to distribute weight, etc. I mean, it's nice they give you an extra bag for that, but... not exactly a new idea. The frame shape does seem unusual, but l would have to see how it actually performs in high winds.
I simply love the way they designed this tent. But it’s a bit heavy on price tag. Definitely going on my wish list for Christmas 🤩👍🏻
Granted the tent is receiving great reviews, and I’m certain they are due. But folks, why so expensive?
I too would like to see the price come down. It's not the only three season tent checking in at $500, but yeah, that's just a lot of money.
It looks nice in the elevated position!
I would appreciate, when standing like that if mesh was hanging down to the ground and attached to a floor.
I just dont like mosquitos.
I'm an artist, so I think the hangout mode is something I would like to try. Thanks for sharing.
How good is the floor and does it come with a ground sheet? It looks like it has a lot of innovative features.
Interesting to see Sea to summit making a tent! Great overview Eric 🤙🏽 I like the top zipper at the vent…. That’s sweet
Good video thanks ... it s reminds me my Marmot Force 3. I will try to do that canope thing with the poles...
Tents, that have that much screen in them suck,If you are camping around sand. When the wind blows,the find sand sifts through the screen and it is terrible!! Don’t think that the rain fly helps because it doesn’t. Worked as a river guide for two decades . Don’t mean to diss on you tent ,but try to stay in it on an extended river trip.
@3:44 that plastic clip seems like a point of weakness at a glance. Why not just take that corded loop and place it over the metal ball end then secure the ridge overtop? Surely that would be a more secure, stable, and presumably longer-lasting connection provided the ridge boot can still fit overtop.
It's an interesting looking tent! Pretty flash. My immediate thought with the high ridgeline is to wonder how well this will do in sustained high winds--coastal or mountainous hiking are often done in windy or stormy conditions which you can't just wait out, and that high ridgeline looks like a big sail at the moment.
Can you update again after you've seen it handle storms with higher winds, to compare how it does to tents with a lower profile?
Great video, thanks!
I've got the Mountain Hardwear SuperMegaUL 2, which seems really similar to the Sea to Summit, high sideline and all. It's actually held up really well in very strong winds! You just have to make sure to properly use the guy lines. It's even worked on granite ridgelines
@@evanbarnes9984 That's good to know! Sounds like it'd be a pretty fair comparison.
I have been looking at this one for my son and I. I have a BA Copper Spur 1P for myself, but something like this would be pretty awesome for the kiddo and myself.
My first shot on your channel, so good entry. Inspiring, but common sense, too.👍🏻
In Australia this thing is getting really expensive, RRP is now $850? I got the BA Copper Spur HV UL2 Bikepack edition with a footprint for less.
Very gorgeous looks simple to set up and I like it. What more can you really ask for, except a cheaper price. I'm not able to buy anything from sea to Summit just about everything they have is Way Beyond me and I've been backpacking for quite some time. So as far as the tenth goes if it was given to me I most definitely would take it, it's an excellent tent but as far as me buying it no no no. I also like the hang out mode. Thanks for the video and thanks for the demonstration I definitely give the tent a thumbs up. Have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry!
Let’s just take a second and thank Sea To Summit for making this tent NOT orange, green, or blue. Finally. A beautiful grey. THANK YOU! 🙌🏼
I transporting my tent (sierra design meteor 2) like this since 4 years...
Poles vertical on my pack, tent inside the pack (at the bottom, with the sleeping bag) and fly outside, in a small pocket like an Nalgene 1L.
Cool tent and great sceanary! Thanks for sharing.
haven't been backpacking that much, just a 3 month trip on the PCT.. actually set up my tent I think 3 times during that 3 months, the rest of the time I slept outside. I think Hangout mode might be the most used mode for me.
Good to see that Sea to Summit is making some innovative tents. As for me, I'm hiking all day and just crawling into the tent at night for a few hours sleep, so I prefer something lighter such as sub-2 pound category. For many people I'm sure this will be great.
If I were doing more wilderness citizen science backpacking, with extended stays in camps, this would definitely be a tent worth considering. The ideas on the guy lines are great. And I am going to steal the fly side attachment peg. I hike in rock slab and rooty country so carry 3-4 made up guy line extenders to get over obstacles or tie off to rocks.
I love this tent!!!! Thank you for sharing
Glad to hear it!
ill buy this tent when they iron out the package and other issues. thanks to everyone supporting s2s with their early access tents.
No idea what an "early access tent" is.
All Sea to Summit products I have used have been good quality. Looks like a good tent. The company has obviously well thought out this product. Some great features. I would definitely consider using this tent. And the price: basically you get what you pay for. I like versatility of the rain fly used as itself also. Looks to be a winner. Would like to see it tested in extreme weather conditions such as rain, snow, and wind. I love your opening humor. Right on, bro.
Hangout mode is a pretty cool feature, it's why I prefer a tarp setup if it's likely to rain or take an additional tarp to setup
way too heavy for backpacking
I only like to take a tarp if I'm going to be more stationary.
Great first look! This and I think the Alto series were the tents for 2021 that most channels were talking about. And I'm going to trash it. Not a knock against your review which was great! 👍 But $500 for a just about 4lb tent is absurd. Combo this with the $400 spark and you have $1k for 2 items that aren't even ultra light. Might as well go dyneema and get the altaplex and arc blast. S2S charges Zpacks prices for Gonex weight 🤣🤣🤣
Great look? A high standing tent with a lot of flaps at the top is a nightmare in the wind. Forget about it if you add a little bit of rain to the wind. And four pounds is atrocious.
Nice tent! Thank you!
Awesome tent no doubt, but not $500 awesome. Props for the rain so color code system, that is a really cool idea. I would have to really think about paying more than $100 for it to be honest. Waaayy too many other options available for $500! Hell, you could put together a real decent beginners backpack kit for the price of this single tent.
This “revolutionary “ tent is basically the exact same thing as my 8ish year old copper spur, ul1. With a superfluous storage system.
I'm just looking at it. And I love it.
Just got the telos Tr3 for Christmas I’m so excited to take it out this spring!
Woohoo! Where you gonna take it?
@@BackpackingTV I live in NY, the Appalachian Trail is just a few minutes from my backyard! I think I’ll start there.
It be a brilliant tent for motorcycle camping and the hang out mode would work if you ever needed space as a garage to work on the bike
Inwas so close to buy this tent. I really like their innovative thinking. Indid end up not buying it as I talked to someone that had tested the tent. Most of the cool inovative things didn’t work really well. That said that was in europe and not sunny Arizona. He liked the size, he liked the space and the different modes you could use it in. Unfortunately he said it didnt work that well in rainy/snowy northern europe. First the fabrike riped a little beside the zipper on the first try, the light bar was very difficult to connect and did fall own. The top of the tent in that construction they have didn’t make the rain slide down but was collected at the top reaultin on water inside the tent, also the ventilation on the roof did get rain and snow as the angel of the little roof (I have no idea what you call it). It made me a little worried and said becours when checking it out I had fallen in love with it. Maybe he just had bad luck or something but it was a little to expensive for me to take that chance. I am pretty sure it is an awesome tent if you live in a different climate than ours here in Sweden. I did by a norvegian tent instead. Two things thats good with that is that it is local, and the second is that the fabric is dark. Thats kind of important here in the north with the midnight sun. But great review and as I said.. it wasn’t me that tested it and he might just had a bad example and I am sure if will be great for others 💪🏻
I have yet to use this tent in real inclement weather, so this is an incomplete test at the moment. I can't say if what your friend experienced would be universal or if that person just didn't set it up right. One thing I liked about the tent is how easy it was to really secure the rain fly and make it very snug and tight. With the guy lines tensioned out, it felt super sturdy and rigid, like it could shed a good bit of snow and certainly rain without any pooling up on top. (I rigorously sprayed the tent with my hose and it shed water well). I'd imagine if rain or snow was blowing in sideways, you just wouldn't want to have the vent fully open, but otherwise I think it would be fine. The fabric was a thicker denier than some of the UL tents I've used and seemed more resistant to tearing, but that would only reveal itself in time. But I certainly had no tears in mine. But yes, I did notice the light bar being a little finicky. Can it withstand Scandinavian weather? You might be better off with something designed specifically for your more brutal weather. But for most of us in North America I think this tent would be great. And thank you!
@@BackpackingTV I am sure and I really hope you have better experience! And let us know if so.. I might buy one anyway then :)
ive done 300 miles in mine in late september northern england and i didnt encounter any issues. I didnt use the light bar as its a gimmick so i cant say for that but as a functional tent in wet and windy it worked really well.
@@littlenicky31 thats great news, then I am sure he just had bad luck!
Thanks for the feedback, Max. May I ask which was that Norwegian tent you decided on, was it Bergans Trollhetta by any chance? Tack och god fortsättning!
UV Rating? This would be great in Australia also. The Hangout mode is a great idea as a shelter for the beach also. Repair Kit? For tears and Fire Fairy damage. Combustibility?
Like it, but for the price, it might be better for someone who camps, but would like the hang out mode to use at the beach or at summer baseball tournaments.
It's got some thoughtful design aspects that I've seen in other tents but only one or two of and not all in one.
The color coded fly should just be a no brainer auto include for any non simetrical tent imo. The "hasty hooch" configuration (what they call "hang out" mode) is a personal requirement for any tent I use. The weight seems really good although time will tell if the tent itself is as bomb proof as the extra pockets make the interior mess issue lol. I also like how they made the top cross bar at an upward angle for extra lift rather than in line with the primary frame pole since those tend to bend down making a dome and reducing accessibility like you mentioned. I usually break my tent down into sections anyway for various set ups (like the aforementioned hasty hooch) and weight balance distribution in my pack but the additional sacks for the same purpose are nice even if they add a tad bit of weight since you get the additional versatility and pockets out of them.
For $500 it feels a bit much or at the very least fairly niche, but thats also coming from someone who regularly lugs around a 50lb+ ruck and uses 6lb+ military tents where durability and function take priority over weight, as much as I'd love to cut a bunch.
But for those whove already cut the weight and bulk of the other big items and have the budget this looks promising.
I wonder if I can jimmy/implement the sun canopy with my current tent rainfly and hiking poles.
OMG I missed the pun at the beginning the first time. Is there anything you didn't like about it? Fun sequence with the garden hose and your dog! 😍🤣
Glad you caught my pun! As for quirks I didn't love: the tent is a little more cumbersome to pack up into its two sacks than a tent that only has one. The light bar was finicky to attach. And if I dropped the guy lines on the ground they'd blend in so well I had a hard time finding them! But that's all very minor stuff.
Very inventive, nice. 👍
really one of the best designed tents out there
Hi,
Thanks for a nice overview.
Do you know what is the UV Protection Factor of the Fly?
Best Regards
Artur
I'm just getting started in backpacking (again after 30 years) and plan on a two week trip in the summer. It looks like this will be the tent I plan on buying. Thanks for the review.
I'd also consider REI Quarter Dome.
Get a Lanshan Pro 2 for $100 or so and much less weight and then if you ever feel like carrying more weight and spending more money you can always buy it...
My 2 cents
@BnORailFan Like others have suggested above, I would consider other options if you are looking to get a quality tent. StS is a great brand but the price of this tent for the weight is quite ludicrous. This tent is over 3.5 lbs as a 2P backpacking tent.
For that price, you should be getting a much lighter product. Freestanding tents will typically be heavier than non-freestanding tents. If you are used to tent poles/frames and don't like to stake out or use trekking poles - freestanding is your pick.
Here are some options that are similar to this tent in price and function -
Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 Tent - $500 (3.1 lbs)
REI Co-op Quarter Dome SL 2 Tent - $380 (2.9 lbs)
MSR Hubba Hubba NX 2 Tent - $350 (3.9 lbs)
If you want to get the lightest tent for your money, you could go non-standing. Properly staked out these are just as durable as poled tents for most weather situations.
Zpacks Duplex (Highly Recommend) - $699 (1.3 lbs)
Lanshan 3F UL 2 Person Tent - $160 (2.5 lbs)
Six Moon Designs Haven - $220 (1.2 lbs)
There are lots of good tents beyond these. Let me know if you have questions!
@@sithman25 (+1) I agree.
Great review. Ty . May have to purchase this one. Very nice Sea to Summit keeps impressing me.
Great video! I would love to see a follow up that shows how well the hangout mode performs in the wind or rain. I cycled through Namibia in 2019 and something like that would have come in useful!
Also - how stable does the mesh look?
I'm not a fan of soo much Mesh.
Could you try setting it up in "Hang out mode" and blowing your leaves blower under it, would be interested if it'd act like a sail/parachute
looks to me like the Nemo Hornet. I like the roof vent though. as for the fair share rig, Nemo's been doing the split pack option for sharing the load for years. Surprised you didn't call that out. It does have some awesome features though, like the tent pouch converted to pocket and the fly as a shade options.
Hello... I actually do have a question... We just bought the tent and set it up in the living room 😅
So everything is fine and looks great but there was a small pole in our pole bag which we don't know for what it is. I'm not sure if it was packed by mistake or if we're supposed to use it somewhere. 🤔😅 Thanks for any advice.
This tent is just ok. In wet or very humid weather you have to have the zip at the "ventilation port" closed or water collects on the fly above and drips through on to you and your gear. Which kind of defies the point of having it there in the first place.
Hangout mode would be great. I despise those times when I must hike in rain gear. A quick, easy shelter from the rain would be great! ✌😎
Yeah I think that would come in very handy! Cheers!
I would definitely use that tent!! Great video. Thank you.
Great review. Thanks
Now I want this tent. It's pretty danged cool.
That's really cool. Possibly something to save for!
It’s similar to the Huba Huba space wise. I like the separate packing bags for fly and inner, (going to steal that idea) and the fact you can use them as storage in the tent.
Hangout mode looks interesting, not sure how much I’d use it. And going to see if I can do it with Huba Huba.
We loved our Huba Hubas (both the original and current versions). Except the fly always relaxes overnight and ends up touching the tent and getting it wet. This one doesn’t do that and has superior ventilation. The only flaw with the tent is fabric loop used to keep the fly door open. Impossible to undo one handed in the dark. Solved with a ring of pex.
Looks like a great tent! I think the most appealing thing about hangout mode is I could bring it to the beach when meeting up with friends and eliminate the need for a separate sun shelter tent that can easily cost $100+.
How do you think it would hold up to a coastal breeze when pegged in sand?
The versatility is great and yes I think you could use it as a beach shade. However, you'd probably want bigger stakes for the beach.
Looks like a nightmare. A high standing tent with flaps at the top, at the beach (or anywhere for that matter), is a disaster waiting to happen.
Nice product for a first try at tents. I certainly trust the brand. Personally, I’d never put those potentially dirty /muddy /wet storage sacks inside my tent. And those clips add unnecessary weight.
wow this tent is absolutely sickkk
is there room for a back back between the fly and tent?
Very nice I’ll give it a try
From a photographer's point of view, hangout mode looks great for putting even, soft light on your subject.
Awesome tent!