Fixing Delonghi Magnifica S dumping water into drip tray
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2022
- Note: Since making this video I have found the best O-Ring replacement is "4mm (ID) x 2mm (CS) silicone o-ring" I have seen packs of 10 for under £3 online.
(Update: Dec 2022)
It may be worth considering changing the whole "DeLonghi Infusion Piston Plate", some traders call it a "Coffee Maker Generator", as there are many other o-rings that can wear out, and the infuser piston and pipes get grotty over time. It will make your coffee machine like new and only costs a little over £30 (UK). It will be a bit more effort, I'm told the pipes are hard to refit, but I think well worth the effort. Obviously check that it fits your model as there are a few types.
This was a guide for my Uncle, But it might be useful for a lot of
Delonghi "bean to cup" machines that are dumping the water into the drip tray via the overflow pipe instead of through the infuser.
Machine being repaired:
Delonghi Magnifica S
Model: Ecam 223.320.sb
Thank you so much for this. Could not have fixed my machine without it.
Thanks for letting me know, I'm so glad it helped.
Thank you ! I wasn't feeling overly optimistic when I started taking the machine to bits but all back together and working perfectly.
Thanks for taking the time to make and share this video.
It's allowed me to fix my coffee machine that was destined for the hard waste pile!
I'm pretty handy, but would have had no clue where to start if I was to try and troubleshoot this myself.
Thank you very much Andy. I had the same problem and would never have found out how to solve it. I followed your instructions and now everything is working. Very generous of you:)
I just want to say thank you very much for this video we have been having problems with our ecam machine for a while and were almost at the point of replacing. But with this video we have fixed it. Thanks
This worked for me too. Thanks so much for posting Andy.
Thank you for the informative video. Our beloved ECAM 23450SL was dumping water into the drip tray, and the frother wasn't working like it should. After this relatively easy repair, it's now working perfectly again.
It worked for me! After i cleaned a piston and changed the o ring my machine is working like brand new.
Thanks for making this video
Thank you Andy for making this video. This really helped me fix my machine which was dripping water in the drip tray. You saved me $200 to get it fixed. 👍🏼
Thanks for letting me know Anthony, glad it helped.
I have never commented on any RUclips video I have watched til now THANK YOU this saved me lots of cash for a $8 pack of random O rings and only took about 20mins to get it all done was about to chuck this out b4 we found this video your a lifesaver thanks again
Thanks Andy! I've got a Delonghi Autentica which had exactly the same problem. It started doing this about a year ago and I dismantled it pretty much completely trying to fix it with no joy... Then I spotted your video last week, changed the o ring and it worked straight away! I got a set of silicone rubber o rings from Amazon and used one of them... Cheers Phil
Well done Andy, like the table you had the machine on
Thanks Andy. I had the same issue and fixed it in 2 hours with the help of your video. Could not have done it without it.
What size o ring did you use mate
Thanks Andy !!!! My machine had the same problem , I took out all the system but wasn’t able to find the issue in two days !!! Yesterday evening I I saw your video . This morning took me ten minutes to change the O-ring and the machine working like new !! Thanks mate , you are a very nice person ! I believe if you give the machine to a specialist it will cost hundreds of pounds. Thanks you saved me a lot of money . Thanks
This fixed it for me 😊
Best video I’ve found on RUclips. Replacement o ring cost me £1.40 on eBay (including delivery) and in less than an hour the machine was fixed. Caffeine fix supplier once more fully functional. Many thanks for taking the time to post this video
Do you have a link? I can't seem to find one
What size o ring did you use
Thanks for making this video I orderes O rings, follow you step by step, clean it and my 9 years olds machine is like new
Thanks so much for letting me know, it makes me very happy to see someone fixed thier machine with a little help from the video,.
Nailed it! Thank you so much buddy. This was a really clear and detailed guide and it worked a treat. Ended up getting a box of o rings from screwfix in the end. Had the size I needed, if a bit pricey. 😅
My Delonghi Eccam 23.210 had the same problem. With your help I solved the problem . the replacement o-ring I put in the machine is from Topline 225PC O-RIng assortment, costing EURO 6. I used their R-03 with I/D 4.5 and section 2. 😀
Thank you for this great and detailed video. I was able to follow your instructions and resolve the issue with my Delonghi Magnifia xs. I would like to add that I found the correct size O ring, at Lowes really cheap. It was around $3 for 10 of them.
The part in made by Danco #61
Many thanks for this video it was a great help.
Excellent video ..... I had the same issue on the Authentica model. Fixed with a 4mm inside diameter x 2mm.
Re-assembled using food grade silicone gease on all o-rings
Super this video 100% true it works for me. Save me lot of money thanks Andy. 👍☕
Excellent video, I have exactly the same issue and will try your fix
Thank you for puting here this video. Following it I fix the problem with my Delonghi-Ecam23.420.
Thanks for the video! Sorted my problem!
Thanks for the upload...fixed my machine that hasn't been making coffee for years...can't believe it was so easy...
...you are the best ♥️
Hi what size o ring did you use
@user-jm5ew1gd3e
Sorry, this is gonna be a bit of a "chick" answer, I just went to the shop bought a multipack of small o-rings and measured the busted o-ring against the new one..
I can say for sure there were about 12 in the pack and the one I used was the smallest one of 12...no measurements on the pack
It's the smallest o-ring I've ever saw...
Sorry the information can't be better
@@donnakay147 aha no worries Thankyou for your reply I tried this also but tho l it’s too small lol
Thnks. Fixed mine. With same probelm.
Thanks a million for your help
Thank you, also works on the older 2018 model.
Just watched your video as my coffee machine was doing the same thing. Spent £3.50 and the o-ring I needed. Followed your steps and all working fine now. Thanks so much. I have to ask, how did you know it was that o-ring to replace lol
Omg this actually worked... i have delonghi eletta cappuccino but its very similar
Thank you So much
Thank you, that solved my problem.
Thanks for letting me know, it always brings a smile to my face.
Yes, yes, yes, that was the small one. Thank you 🙂
This video was fantastic and allowed me to fix my machine. I've stocked up on the delonghi spec o-rings which cost me $2.50 each and bought a couple tools to make the job easier. Thanks for putting this together!!
Tnx. That did it for me
Andy Top Man thanks very very much just fitted my 4 x 2 washer red one like you said as well
and no more going into tray yeahhhhhhhhh i got my one on ebay for 99 pence you saved me 160 pounds for a washer that's how much delonghi wanted to fix it i got the same machine as you as well...cheers Andy
Morning Sean, do you happen to have the ebay link for the washer please. TIA
When I recognise the machine is the same as mine it is worth watching the video. And using a manual screwdriver. Anyone who uses an electric screwdriver on plastic parts is asking for problems.
Wow, thanks, cost me $6 to fix - just the security bit from eBay, was quoted $150 per hour from repair company.,
Note: it is normal for some water to accumulate into the drip tray when the infuser changes position, especially when you are generating steam for frothing. Yes, cleaning the clogged valve on the top if the generator will resolve this issue. Contact your local DeLonghi authorized service center for the correct OEM replacement parts.
Dear Andy, I have just replaced the 4x2mm O-ring as you described, and leaking issue is gone. I was loosing about 1/3 of water into tray every cup of coffee. Thank you very much.
Thanks for letting me know, it's always a joy to know someone has fixed their machine with a little help from the video.
Hi ,
Thanks a lot for all your vid
I bought my DeLonghi Magnifica XS from Costco MN
120 v - 60 HZ 1250 W
Type ECAM 22110 B
P= 1.5 MPa (15 bar)
When I took it to North Africa and by mistake I plugged it in 220 V
I smelled little burning. I still can turn it on I can hear the coffee grinding all screen look good with green and yellow light but it doesn't dispense water nor a coffee.
Please help.
Thanks for sharing this information, I have just replaced the o-ring as shown in the video. I still have some water dripping into the drop tray. I have a Dinamica 350.75.S but in many respects have many common parts. The overflow or pressure relief on the ceme valve is dripping the water back to the drip tray. This is more than normal expansion etc. Any ideas on potential root causes? Have you seen these ceme valves fail e.g opening at lower pressures than their 3bar spec?
The O-ring in the fix is the main culprit, but there are plenty of other O-rings in that assembly, which is why I would recommend anyone now to replace the whole brew unit/ Infuser piston, they are not too expensive, I've seen them for about £30 and come complete with all the O-rings that will be the exact specification.
I orignaly thought the issue was something like an over pressure release valve above the boiler assembly as I could see quite a lot of calcium deposits between the top and bottom half. There could be a chance that's still an issue for you, I would try replacing the whole piston assembly first as this is a much cheeper option and won't be wasted even if it turns out your boiler assembly needs replacing later.
When you pull the steam knob out there is a little spring on the end to help it stay on, if you just pull it out it can fall off.
I didn't think you can lift the plastic top off with out pulling the steam knob off first. I recall it being split and a little loose, but not loose enough to be able to fall out with out pulling it.
@@andywood2012 You need to remove the steam knob if you want to remove the top. My point was that the steam knob has a narrow spring around the end of it which you have lost, I did the same thing and dislodged the spring on mine, took a while to find it.
@@HorsleyLandy88 I got you, so you would fit the coiled spring on the knob and Insert it.
I have the magnifica xs and when I do decalc, it leaks the water all over. Normally, when I turn the machine on or off, it rinses from the normal way but I wonder if this ring would solve that problem as well? I had opened a few months ago and o-rings on the side looked fine. Thank you in advance.
Where did you find the o rings please? I’ve tried a few but they shred straight away. Thanks
Great job. How did you diagnose that point of leak?
After many calls to different departments at Delongi, and despite their support giving me a exploded schematic to order parts, they where unable to help me. I had to trace the path of the water flow till I was able to see where the water was coming from. I suspected it was the water heater but taking that appart didn't help.
What's that light brown leakage seen on the right at 4:08? Is it related to this issue? I've got a similar problem with my machine and there's also similar leakage inside my machine though to a lesser degree.
I did think that was the fault at first as there was residue from leakage and even asked Delonghi's UK parts supplier for a technical reference, they emailed me an exploded diagram so I could identify and order the parts, it wasn't a very detailed diagram but I was able to work out that was the hot water and steam generator and that was working fine. I then followed the pipe from the problematic overflow to the brew area at the top.
Hi, wo hast du diese o-ring set gekauft, gute set ...
I have the same problem but with an older Magnifica ESAM 3000, do you think the issue could be the same? Thanks!
I would guess so, most models carry the same internal parts so it has to be worth a look.
My Delonghi Magnifica S is dumping water the Coffee grounds container, not sure if its the same problem but I think its very similar sort of issue.
Where do you have power cable on video? (Of coffe machine, or you cut of for just show the video?)
I pull it out of the socket at the rear of the machine to dismantle it safely.
Hi! I have same machine but the issue might be different, it doesn’t respond to commands, if is plugged in, is playing alone: switching on and off, water comes out and in the end I cannot make any coffee as buttons are not responding to orders. What that might be? Thank you!
I would have to guess but if the ribbon cable oe connectors running from the button housing the the mainboard isn't loose, then maybe you need to replace the button mechanism. You would probably need to contact Delonghi support to find the parts.
Followed this tonight with the correct orings but now it’s dumping all the water from the rinse into the grinds bin - I’ve had it apart several times and swapped out the oring - no joy it’s actually worse than before
This is just a fix for a quite common o-ring issue, you must have another issue entirely. I would suggest buying the whole infuser piston assembly as they are not too expensive, i've seen them for about £30 in the UK.
@@andywood2012
Cheers stripped down the brew infuser and found a broken oring so that’s on order - fingers crossed
My machine has been leaking for a while. I thought it was just age then today all water/coffee stopped coming out. Sen this video which I will give a go despite being only moderately 'handy'! My question is the O ring. Is the 4mm ID or OD? About to order 8mm OD, 4mm ID, 2mm width. Does that sound right?
Thanks for bringing that excellent question up,The O-Ring you want is 4mm (ID) by 2mm (CS), and needs to be silicone to last, they are normally red. I'll update the description.
Hi, I have this model which has the extra milk container and hot water tap. After using the hot water from the tap I find a puddle of water fill inside the coffee grind bin. Im not sure if this is normal or something is wrong. Any ideas?
Thanks
I don't think your problem is related to this issue, it sounds like a seal around the coffee infuser parts. I don't have the machine anymore so its impossible for me to examine, however you might want to think about replacing your infuser/brew unit, it makes your machine make coffee like new.
@@andywood2012 thanks, based on your responce I have just purchased an o ring kit to replace the old ones, hopefully this makes it as good as new.
Now to figure out if the 'Dow Corning high vacuum grease' I have is ok to use in coffee machines?
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what size of the o-ring used? Is it DIN or AS568 standard size?
I'm not sure what standard it was, the O-Ring that worked was 4mm (diameter) x 1.8mm (thickness), but I think a 4mm x 2mm will fit better. Also make sure it's silicone as they are designed for high temperature and food grade use.
I’m having the same issue with my ECAM250 Magnifica S Smart. It’s dumping approximately 100-125ml of water into the drip tray for each regular coffee it makes (not the long one, and excluding the switch on/off process). It’s still under warranty, but now due to go back to the repair centre for a third time. They keep trying to tell me there’s nothing wrong with it! It’s gradually got worse over the last couple of months, so I know it’s not normal. I have Supplied video evidence too.
One CS told me a few ml was acceptable, but not that much. The service centre don’t seem to want to fix it though. Anyone have any ideas how to actually get them to sort this under warranty?
I can't find 4mm X 2 mm silicone o rings anywhere!! 6 mm is the smallest OD I can find. Anyone have a source? Thank you for your video btw!
I found this on ebay. £1.40 for 6. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293659236651
Hi thanks for video but i have a problem when i use stream works fine but when i make coffee not water start (mean pump not start working its works on steam only) can you help me please
It's the same pump for steam as it is the hot water, so I'm not sure what's wrong if you can hear the pump when you get steam, but not when you select hot water or a brew. Do you have any issue reported on the display when you brew? Are you getting water anywhere other than where it should be coming out?
I would suggest having a look inside to make sure all the water pipes and electrical connections are attached, but it does sound from your description that something is wrong with either a sensor or the system.
@andywood2012 thank for replying , I unplugged all pipes all working great there's no problem when I use steam key the pump working but when I am using coffee key only pump not working like no command maybe its a board problem?
From what you say It seems like a controller board issue rather than something physical.
@andywood2012 thanks a lot ❤️
4.5x2mm worked for me. No idea how long it'll last, it was still a little loose like your 5x2 but did work. Maybe your screwdriver damaged it?
It may of been. I don't recommend replacing the one O-ring though as you can get the whole brew unit for about £30. But if some wants an easier task do make sure the O-ring is designed for heat like I say in the desciption.
@andywood2012 I was wrong anyway, seems it was too big. Water was coming from the head and the drip tray (and also somewhere underneath). I did notice it's also coming from the pipe on the head rather than just the nozzles. These things are a right pain
Now I'm really confused. I borrowed the o ring from the black piece since it looks like a perfect fit (same as the original but slightly thicker. Does the exact same thing
Hi I’ve changed the o ring but with no luck the water is pumping out of both pipes that we disconnect in your video but not making it out the spout just in to the grounds container
Sounds to me the washer could be the wrong size or put in wrong just like I did in this video? I left the errors I made as helpful instruction what could go wrong.
it might be something else of course but I can't diagnose anything as I havn't got this machine any more. ( I made this video as instruction for a dear uncle who I was about to give the machine)
Shall I get 8mmx4mmx2mm mate I’m confused lol
@@andywood2012 do you think the 8mm x 4mm x 2mm will be right mate
Do you have a link or anything mate
Don’t they just sell washer sets for delonghi ? O rings have quite specific tolerances
Yes, There's an official partner that supplies parts in the UK for Delongi who where kind enough to email me an exploded diagram when I was trying to diagnose the issue with my coffee machine. It didn't really help as it was very low resolution and not fully keyed, and their parts are considerably more expensive as you would expect.
As long as you are purchasing food safe, silicone (red) washers of the correct size it should be fine. But I much more recommend replacing the whole piston unit as its so cheap, I've seen them under £30!
Where did you buy the tool?
so you can unscrew them
It's a torx t20 security bit. I got mine in a kit but you can buy them separately.
Little flat screwdriver do the job too 🙂
I have a ecam23.460 does exactly this, is it literally just that o ring that causes the issue an do you no why mate gotta give it aho
The O-ring gets tired over time as it is holding back hot water with a lot of pressure. But as I say in the description, it's worth considering a complete "Infusion Piston Plate" instead of just the O-ring. It's under £30 and has a lot of parts that get grubby.
@@andywood2012 cheers mate might give the o ring a try first just trying to source the right one
@@andywood2012 is 8mm0d 4mmid and 2mm width sound right
@@andywood2012 or I’ve found 4mmod 2mmid by 1mm sorry mate
Yes, 4 mm OD.. which is the outside diameter, and 2mm hole.
The problem is the machine is very dirty, better cleaning
I agree, I did the video quickly just as an instruction for my uncle, I did clean it properly before giving them the machine. My hands are also covered in washing powder as I was also doing some emergency hand washing during the shooting after some one had a little accident with some curry.
Hmmm whats the morale innthis? Buy original spare parts, instead of beeing a cheapskate.