LEGO Suspension for Beginners (Episode 4) - Basic principles and building tips.

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • Basic tips and tricks to help you build a model with suspension.
    Stadium Truck Instructions rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-3608...
    Wikipedia article about Suspension en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_sus...
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  • @grohl666
    @grohl666  Год назад +8

    0:53 Pendular Suspension
    2:25 Rubber Band Suspension
    3:15 Rubber Damper Suspension
    4:04 Shock Absorbers
    6:38 Swing Axle Suspension
    7:30 Dual Wishbone Suspension
    12:57 Live Axle Suspension
    17:14 4-link Suspension in a Trophy Truck

  • @giangoc123
    @giangoc123 3 года назад +19

    I really love this series! If possible I'd love to see future videos from you about some general design principles that I have observed in official models: load bearing, form locking, movement limiters, past-the-midline lock, etc.

  • @KennyMinigun
    @KennyMinigun 3 года назад +18

    Thank you so much! This is one of the topics I was truly eager for

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад +1

      You are the most welcome.

  • @SMARTAN_427
    @SMARTAN_427 13 часов назад

    This is a great vid! I've used pendular suspension for years, but am trying some of the more advanced techniques in order to also have steering.

  • @romankonoval2190
    @romankonoval2190 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for this video. It is great

  • @Rateltong
    @Rateltong 3 года назад +2

    Very nice video! Suspension is the one thing i just cannot do. so this helped a lot.

  • @toddwz
    @toddwz 3 года назад +1

    Great video. Hope to see more for dummies series.

  • @CaptainDaksh101
    @CaptainDaksh101 3 года назад +4

    Thank you so much! I myself am trying to make a Defender MOC so this is really helpful

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад +2

      Glad to hear that.

  • @horizonplays549
    @horizonplays549 2 года назад +1

    Would love to see more stuff like that. Because of these videos I’ve created my first lego rc car. At first it was front wheel drive no turning. Now it has turning and is waiting for the large motor for real wheel drive. Still need to add suspension and stuff

  • @marinabayview
    @marinabayview 2 года назад

    Could not wait to introduce my children your vdo. (But they are smllie at the moment). Such a great great work.. Thank you for magnificent clip!

  • @HarystolhoGamer
    @HarystolhoGamer 2 года назад

    This is so helpful, thank you

  • @jetaardvark9825
    @jetaardvark9825 3 года назад +78

    Could you teach us about designing a vehicle from scratch?

  • @avic6069
    @avic6069 3 года назад +1

    In 42000, the suspension setup is known as pushrod suspension. It is found mostly in race cars and allows you to move the center of gravity of the car lower and inwards. Als well as that, there is a lot of playability for large travel and hard shocks or low travel and soft shocks. Another advantage of pushrod suspension is that it allows you to connect 2 double wishbone setups with one shock absorber (or even all 4). You can see this on F1 cars.

  • @travispuariea4798
    @travispuariea4798 2 года назад +1

    I really love your videos. They some of these are things that would take me hours to create. I was trying to figure out a way to make independent suspension with steering using the universal joint for axles. I actually made it work, but it doesn't as way too complicated too mount. The also made a teal shock absorber, but they are older sets.

    • @travispuariea4798
      @travispuariea4798 2 года назад

      As well as blue shock absorbers they are same as gray one

  • @gregdabrat
    @gregdabrat 3 года назад +9

    Can you teach us about desgining lego technic cars?

  • @HexhamFoodCo
    @HexhamFoodCo 2 года назад

    Fantastic vid

  • @lanajoshlin4284
    @lanajoshlin4284 Год назад

    Jk I actually love this guy’s videos

  • @victoriaevelyn3953
    @victoriaevelyn3953 2 года назад +1

    lego technic has gotten really advanced since that last set i got so many new unique parts like that CV joint i wish i could afford that purple tracked vehicle you have in this video

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      Back in 2017 it was one of the best bargains on the market.

  • @sethrice9939
    @sethrice9939 4 месяца назад

    lol as soon as that part hit the floor and kept bouncing, all I could think was. “Oh man, it’s going under and to the back of something heavy”

  • @gothbricks2000
    @gothbricks2000 2 года назад +1

    Cheers for producing one of the most thorough videos I've seen yet on LEGO suspension. I've been wanting to up my vehicle game and will definitely be using this as gold reference material. Only issue will be how to compact it into standard-ish LEGO model size.

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад +3

      Maybe check some official Lego models with suspension

    • @travispuariea4798
      @travispuariea4798 2 года назад

      Been trying to the same, but lack of ball joints is an issue for me. I tried making I stadium truck, it was quite large, but I did not like how slow it it was. Maybe I can try again knowing this knowledge

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад +1

      @@travispuariea4798 check my free instructions for the 42110 stadium truck

    • @travispuariea4798
      @travispuariea4798 2 года назад

      @@grohl666 that's a really cool alternate build! Makes me want the defender set even more!

  • @FinAndo69
    @FinAndo69 3 года назад +2

    Could you make a convertible with the Lego Technic Corvette 42093? Thanks

  • @sophialorraineapuang4092
    @sophialorraineapuang4092 2 года назад

    i really need this for my mocs

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      Glad I could help

  • @dosh8276
    @dosh8276 Год назад +1

    Don't wanna sound like a nerd but the Swing Axle Suspension is also called McPherson Suspension.

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  Год назад +1

      Nerds are always welcome here.

  • @krankenwagen7198
    @krankenwagen7198 2 года назад +1

    i was originally searching for suspension models with a differential to use in my simple control + car

  • @Carob_55
    @Carob_55 3 года назад

    Great tutorial, do u think if it is possible to add the first sistem to a 3 wheeled bike?

  • @MineBossGamer247
    @MineBossGamer247 3 года назад +2

    hi grohl666 im a big fan

  • @Phoenix-Saika
    @Phoenix-Saika 3 года назад +3

    Could you do a video about walking robots like the NXT robot does?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      I do not have nxt and walkers take quite some time to develop correctly.

  • @aileenabejar9779
    @aileenabejar9779 3 года назад

    Huuuge help for my mocs, keep up the good work!
    Also: is torsion bars illegal?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад +1

      In official models, yes.

  • @jachymkubin6616
    @jachymkubin6616 3 года назад +1

    I was like am I really watching it? I know how to build suspension right? And then at the start of the video I was like wait what red and yellow absorbers are equally hard are you kidding me? How didn't I know this? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      Dont worry, I am still learning new stuff too.

  • @Player-fx3vt
    @Player-fx3vt 3 года назад +1

    Thamks very useful , I am terrible at suspension

  • @adrian_zombturtle148
    @adrian_zombturtle148 3 года назад +1

    The biggest wheels I have are 43.2 mm and am new to making suspension so I think it's going to be a bit tricky

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад +3

      The first ideas are much better with small wheels.

  • @angtu1035
    @angtu1035 10 месяцев назад

    is there anyway to apply suspensions to the pullback engines?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  10 месяцев назад

      There is always a way, Pullback motor is nothing but a propulsion block. Place in the space where you have a differential or an electric motor.

  • @akshabc6817
    @akshabc6817 4 месяца назад

    will the pendular suspension work for a 4 wheeler semitruck/suv mix?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  4 месяца назад

      Not without additional shocks or one solid axle attached to the frame. You need something that will prevent the model from tilting sideways.

  • @lyleschmitt776
    @lyleschmitt776 Год назад

    How can I get the parts to make the pendulum suspension

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  Год назад

      Any medium to big sized Technic set will do.

  • @Elias-ny6sw
    @Elias-ny6sw 3 года назад +1

    How can I make a dual rear driveable axle without a single spring (the rear pendular suspension but With two driveable axles)?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      For a truck you mean? Just use a line of gearwheels in between the wheel attachments.

    • @Elias-ny6sw
      @Elias-ny6sw 3 года назад

      @@grohl666 I tried that but it got so unstable with only one connection to the frame. Can I stabilize it with something, like a 1x4 stick or something?

  • @JendaD
    @JendaD 3 года назад +1

    Good video mister

    • @JendaD
      @JendaD 3 года назад

      Thank you bro

  • @damothebeasty1320
    @damothebeasty1320 2 года назад +1

    Where could you recommend getting parts?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      Buy a lego set with suspension or get separate parts from bricklink

  • @Nico71Fr
    @Nico71Fr 3 года назад

    Do you consider torsion bar using lego axle as illegal building technique ?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад +1

      Yes 🙂

    • @michaelfinlay1412
      @michaelfinlay1412 3 года назад

      Makes sense, you are twisting an axle to use it as a spring

    • @Nico71Fr
      @Nico71Fr 3 года назад

      @@michaelfinlay1412 Yes, in elasticity domain without damaging the part, basically what engineer do in plastic clip assembly or torsion bar for instance.

  • @logi2356
    @logi2356 3 года назад +1

    the link in the description doesnt work :(

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      Thank you. Fixed it.

  • @ElijahBradley08
    @ElijahBradley08 2 года назад

    I have been trying to make 18 stud wide suspension with steering for so long now to go in my trophy truck but i just cant figure it out

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      I do not know how big your truck is or which wheels are you using, but these parts do help www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=31794&idColor=86#T=C&C=86

    • @ElijahBradley08
      @ElijahBradley08 2 года назад

      @@grohl666 thanks

  • @kingj6545
    @kingj6545 3 года назад

    Can the first one carry a lot of weight?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      Depends how well you lock the moving beams from the other side.

  • @planeguy_0577
    @planeguy_0577 2 года назад

    Which would you recommend for lego tractor trailers? I'm willing to use two different suspension types for front and rear.

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      Trucks usually use solid axles with leaf springs and air bags for which LEGO does not have a proper equivalent. Pendular solid axles with the rubber pieces to dampen their movement would work. Offroad ones have live axles.

    • @planeguy_0577
      @planeguy_0577 2 года назад

      @@grohl666 Great! Thank you!

  • @allgrip_creations
    @allgrip_creations 3 года назад +5

    I když nejsem začátečník, tak mě Dummies baví😅

  • @oscarharris1725
    @oscarharris1725 3 года назад

    What model number is that tracked car?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад +1

      Give me the exact time in the video please.

  • @brrrinalaska6411
    @brrrinalaska6411 3 года назад

    FYI, it should not be referred to as a shock absorber. Shock absorbers do not provide any suspension support. They are actually struts which is a combination of shock absorption and suspension support via a spring.

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      Yes, but I did not choose the name of the part. www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=P&catString=542

  • @tylertyj2310
    @tylertyj2310 3 года назад

    How is it ment to work with steering

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      Combine it with the Steering for dummies episode.

  • @brettthompson5192
    @brettthompson5192 3 года назад

    Hello! What type of suspension is a Hendrickson HMX 46K Rear Suspension and could you point me in the right direction for building one? Thanks!

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      images.app.goo.gl/9c9F9C7KDNk4NWiZ9 if you meant this, it looks like air dampered live axle/solid axle

    • @brettthompson5192
      @brettthompson5192 3 года назад

      @@grohl666 Here is the one I was referring too! hendrickson-intl.com/Truck/Vocational/HAULMAAX is there much difference between this one and the one you showed me?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      @@brettthompson5192 Even better - this is just a pendular suspension arm with two rubber dampers on the sides - both these ideas are inthe video.

    • @brettthompson5192
      @brettthompson5192 3 года назад

      @@grohl666 Thank you very much!

  • @carnecocida9428
    @carnecocida9428 2 года назад

    How make rc suspension chasis but. I no have buwizz ,and Cv joints and Universal joints

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      You cannot make suspension with drive without CV or universal joints.

    • @carnecocida9428
      @carnecocida9428 2 года назад

      @@grohl666 ok,In which set can I find those pieces?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      @@carnecocida9428 42099, 42110, 42129

    • @carnecocida9428
      @carnecocida9428 2 года назад

      @@grohl666 ty

  • @Wreckedftfoxy
    @Wreckedftfoxy 3 года назад

    how about steerring without a differential cause i dont have the lego differentials

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      There is an episode only dedicated to steering. ruclips.net/video/woq6f_kBKkY/видео.html

    • @Wreckedftfoxy
      @Wreckedftfoxy 3 года назад

      @@grohl666 i mean both steering and suspension

    • @nathanielbean3119
      @nathanielbean3119 3 года назад

      @@Wreckedftfoxy find some other video

    • @Wreckedftfoxy
      @Wreckedftfoxy 3 года назад

      @@nathanielbean3119 fine this wasnt helpful at allll!

  • @Supervisor777
    @Supervisor777 2 года назад

    👍

  • @UltimateLegoProductions123
    @UltimateLegoProductions123 3 года назад

    I did a live axle with drivetrain.

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      Great. I did it many times too.

  • @taco6658
    @taco6658 3 года назад +1

    What is the difference between soft and hard springs

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад +1

      The stiffness of the spring.

    • @taco6658
      @taco6658 3 года назад

      @@grohl666 I mean which is better, sorry I kind of didn’t explain

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      @@taco6658 It depends on the application, size and the weight of the model. Usually softer for lighter/smaller models, harder for the bigger/heavier.

    • @taco6658
      @taco6658 3 года назад

      @@grohl666 thanks so I should use hard springs on my 2 pound tank.

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      @@taco6658 depends on the numbers of bogies as well

  • @mnlprixams9770
    @mnlprixams9770 3 года назад +1

    Where do you get the parts?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      From lego sets or Bricklink

    • @mnlprixams9770
      @mnlprixams9770 3 года назад

      @@grohl666 so do you just take the set apart and just use the parts

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      @@mnlprixams9770 if I need them for MOCs then yes

  • @jasonhindman3560
    @jasonhindman3560 3 года назад

    Can you do moterizeation for dummies

  • @Riouxkieyt
    @Riouxkieyt Год назад +1

    13:08 it looks like the room has turned into aluminum foil.

  • @moditorplayz
    @moditorplayz 3 года назад

    you forgot the 8465 suspension.
    here is the rebrickable link for this set: rebrickable.com/sets/8465-1/extreme-off-roader/?inventory=1#parts

  • @bartybum
    @bartybum 3 года назад +1

    Should’ve shown off some MacPherson and multilink suspension :P

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      There is a 4 link in the stadium truck rear and the MacPherson is not that easy to replicate simply in LEGO format.

    • @bartybum
      @bartybum 3 года назад

      @@grohl666 In any case, I'd love to see you use more complex suspension systems in future sets, beyond the basic double wishbone and restricted live axles

  • @eshokorat2994
    @eshokorat2994 3 года назад

    😀

  • @jahcopozani5280
    @jahcopozani5280 3 года назад +1

    The migos: Quavo, Takeoff, 14:12

  • @rainbow_lamahcs3258
    @rainbow_lamahcs3258 3 года назад

    Please Alternative Lego dodge charger!

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      Already did one and will start the next one after the Defender alternate.

  • @leonardhangonyi
    @leonardhangonyi 3 года назад

    WOW, this is truely for dumies, because I understand. NICE video

  • @IV72020
    @IV72020 3 года назад

    What is your name?

  • @sethplays7706
    @sethplays7706 3 года назад

    What if you don't have those "common" prices at around 10 mins in

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      I need the exact time.

    • @sethplays7706
      @sethplays7706 3 года назад

      @@grohl666 the dual wishbone one

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  3 года назад

      @@sethplays7706 It is not a problem for the rear axle but in the front you still need something with the ball cups.

    • @sethplays7706
      @sethplays7706 3 года назад +1

      @@grohl666 sadly I do not have those parts

    • @sethplays7706
      @sethplays7706 3 года назад

      I've made a car ish out of a different suspension type but changed it a bit

  • @lanajoshlin4284
    @lanajoshlin4284 Год назад

    I built a gokart out of his one build

  • @jinpingthebear110
    @jinpingthebear110 2 года назад

    You are confusing springs and shock absorbers

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      These parts are officially called "shock absorbers" at Lego

  • @Blazymon
    @Blazymon Год назад

    why do you sound like electroboom?

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  Год назад +1

      Why does he sound like me?

  • @lanajoshlin4284
    @lanajoshlin4284 Год назад

    I hate this guy for not showing me how to make the last setup

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  Год назад

      You can just hate yourself for being too lazy to read. The link is in the description.

  • @tristonius8557
    @tristonius8557 2 года назад

    You don't know how the hell double wishbone suspension works. First if its so bad why do 99% of cars use it. Second double wishbone always has the shocks attached to the top swing arm. Third it is easy to have driven you just need CV joints. Please don't feed lies to people that aren't good with lwgo technical.

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      Thanks for your angry and honest comment. I believe I know what I am talking about. I did not say dual wishbone suspension is bad. Technic models often have shocks mounted at the bottom wishbone. At 12:30 you can see the CV joints mounted on the dual wishbone suspension. And it Is called Lego Technic.

    • @tristonius8557
      @tristonius8557 2 года назад

      @@grohl666 you implied that it was bad. Second just because Lego mounts them like that doesn't mean its right if you look at 90% of Lego technic its done wrong.

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      @@tristonius8557 You can try to become a LEGO Technic designer and make it better. I do that for living for almost 10 years.

  • @matveyzar7787
    @matveyzar7787 2 года назад

    copied from Russian channel

    • @grohl666
      @grohl666  2 года назад

      Are you kidding me? Send me the link please.

    • @matveyzar7787
      @matveyzar7787 2 года назад

      @@grohl666 ruclips.net/video/UtRa86AIkag/видео.html

    • @matveyzar7787
      @matveyzar7787 2 года назад

      part