You, Sir, are a Genius! And now, I Look like one....With your instruction, I just got a broken key out of the lock on my Apartment Garage door, which was left in the open position. Cuticle scissors......worked like a charm! Thank You!
Thank you so much for this video!!! My key had broke in my home door, called the locksmith. They wanted to charge me $54+ dollars to come out. couldn't afford it, so i youtube it and your video came up. I did the first one (scissors) and it came right out! YOU'RE AWESOME THANKS!!!!!!!
Wow ! Quite helpful! I have followed your ways and I've succeeded to remove a broken key from a padlock! I was so desperate but you have helped so much! God bless you!
I see so many negative comments here. I was about to take an axe to the damn door and the scissor trick did the job. Now I have a new, working lock on the door and it cost me nothing. You, sir, are a STAR !!!!!!!!!
Method 1: Now try it while the cilinder is still in the door and your work area is just 180 degrees aka a flat surface. Method 2: You still need to replace your cilinder. Using a 2nd key at the other side of the cilinder will push out the broken key in most cases.
Sir, thank you so much for sharing this, I could not get the another half out. The Scissor worked in one try. May my Heavenly Father, bless you for this video, as he did me finding it.
I'm not going to take the time to make a video about it, but if you take a sewing needle and break off one side of the eye, it can slide under the teeth of the key and the resulting hook will remove the key. I use a small pair of pliers to grip the needle. Obviously, size the needle to the lock.
Using scissors with a curved and pointed end worked. Got the broken key out in a couple of minutes. Thank you so much for the tip, saved me lots of money!
1. chew a gum until it loses its flavor. Then take it out of your mouth and mold it like a flat U-bed shape. Press the flat shape against the lock where broken key is showing. Now, put a string inside the U-shape and close it by folding down on both sides. Then, get an ice-cube and rub it over the gum until it is hardened. Lastly, pull the string gently to get the broken key out. 2.If that does not work, apply super glue or epoxy on the tip of the broken key and attach it to a string or something to pull the broken key out.
And if neither of these work, get a bottle of Jim Beam and pour precisely one quarter of the contents into a bowl. Don't dilute the bourbon... it must be neat. Place the bowl on the floor, get down on all fours and start lapping up the alcohol and mewing like a cat. When the bowl is empty, call the locksmith. Half an hour later the broken key will have been removed from the lock and you'll be feeling very very mellow. Problem solved.
3 ways and this is the best way. Cut a thin section of a plastic straw and super glue the 1 side. Slide it in wet side against key and let it dry. Pull and key will come out attached to strip.
i am a caretaker in a big housing complex and broken keys are a daily thing....i use a bent paper clip and a pair of pliers....works every time and is quickly done
Of course BixRog! What we see in this clip is a non professional work... A pair of long nose pliers would be the solution, at the beginning, then paperclips and pliers. Still non professional, but more clean and efficient.
I have just removed the broken key from a lock very similar to this. I took it out of the door, held it with the broken key lowest and tapped the barrel gently a few hundred times. It just gradually came out due to gravity. I have to say i tried everything suggested in this vid and similar ... frustration was the only result. Just be patient, tap gently with a little hammer or similar and trust in the fact that it won't fall upwards! It will only make its way down until you can get a good grasp of it. Ah, such a relief to have it fixed.
Thanks for the video , I used one of those micro screwdrivers and was able to remove the broken key without removing the door lock from the door. It worked a treat!
What I use is a pick tool go in slow once the pick it’s all the way in I turn it either way to 45 degree and take it out as fast as I can and the broker key comes out
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Spent 30 years doing operations & maintenance working at a state facility. Sometimes I covered weekend shifts, any & all service calls- too hot, cold, drafty , kitchen equipment not working, toilets, loose snake outside. Usually I did the job by myself- not always. For keys broke in the door-lock- I carried a regular safety pin 0n my tool belt. I would stick the point barely in the door hinge and tweak the point- just barely is more than enough, and slide it in alongside the key, and work the key out. If I couldn't do this in less than 5 minutes, and I did do it, 9 times out of ten, then the situation was more dire than my basic skills and I would have to call in the facility Locksmith on a 4 hour overtime call out. (Usually disturbing his family weekend).
Thanks! Instead of scissors I used a dental pick because scissors wouldn't fit. You just saved my company the price of a locksmith and gave me the pleasure of repairing it myself.
This video helped me out. I got it out by the first method by prying it out. I have to add, if the key don't come out easily then turn the lock into a different position and try that. Then it came out very easily for me
I use a pick, usually a single hook!!!.. Slide it down the side, twist the pick and pull.. POP, out the broken key cameos... BOOM into the grinding machine and make your customer a new key
I had pulled out a broken key that was so deep in the cylinder that I could barely see it inside of it. All I did was to take the key cylinder out just like in the video, got a hammer with a hard plastic tip, and grabbed the cylinder with the keyhole facing me; I started hitting it medium hard with the hammer. And slowly but surely the piece of broken key started to come out. What happens is that the locking pins in the cylinder holds the key in it using pressure provided by some tiny springs , but when you bit the cylinder's body with the hammer the springs give way and the broken key starts to come out. And that's the end of it. Just that simple. I wouldn't think this trick will work on all different types of locks. But I'm pretty sure it will on most of them that uses a key like the one on this video. REMEMBER TO POSITION THE CYLINDER WITH THE KEYHOLE FACING YOU AS YOU HIT IT WITH THE HAMMER. I hope this helps somebody.
So I'm aggravated because my key is broken in the door and that music just tripled my anxiety way up! I really wanted to see how you got the key out but I just couldn't handle that music
Just got my key stuck and the scissor hack worked,this hack was from 8 years ago and it still worked regardless ,thanks so much Now my dad won't have to get mad at me,LOL.
I used small flat head screw driver and my thumb and it wiggled out. Husband was trying to get it out with curtain cutters?! I said move aside I’ll show you stuff, I can do stuff.. He couldn’t believe it! Thanks whoever gave me that tip.
"my method" is tested in three cases and work Thermal transfer between key and lock make important role. Know practice in hard repairs is also welding nut on cutted(cracked) screw, very similiar principle.
I'm a locksmith that has removed hundreds of broken keys so I think I can say that I have experience in this area. Use a good set of broken key extractors. But for the layman who doesn't want spend any money on tools a needle can work well. The NUMBER ONE reason most people can't remove a broken key is they try to remove key thats turned in the lock. The key can only be removed in the vertical position. Something everybody knows by using their locks everyday, but don't remember when a key is broken. It's a very common mistake that has made me a lot of money.
Not only are the two methods shown stupid (scissors? Any point object?); let's drill a hole in the lock (duuuh), but the person doing them is useless as well (clumsy and unskilled). If using the pointy object, you should apply pressure on the other side as well. And you NEVER drill the lock (how dumb is that). As another commenter suggested, why not just use a key extractor, or hook. So... how are these 'brilliant' solutions? Who rates these things?
put crazy glue on finger tip and touch key nub a few seconds...pull out key remnant and then type in youtube "how to get crazy glued stuff off your body parts"
Actualy sharp needle points and exacto knifes would well to pry em out ,,,sharp edge catches brass key pretty solid! WAY better than thick friggen dull a$$ed scissors!
If you still have access to the other side of the lock, put in a key from the other side, the broken part will come out and you can grap it with pliers
An easy to remove the broken key is to put another copy of the key from the other side and the broken key will appear and you can withdraw it easily بالامكان ازاله المفتاح المكسور و ذلك بان نضع نسخه اخري من المفتاح في الطرف الاخر و سوف يظهر المفتاح المكسور و يمكن ازالته بسهوله
I broke a key in the door lock trying to get in. It was broken off partway along the key back inside the lock with the edge as a twisted shard, not cleanly evenly snapped off with a piece accessible from the outside. Scissors cannot reach into a lock. I spent a while trying to find something at a hardware store small enough to reach back into a lock that I could try snagging onto the key piece that was strong enough to not bend AND a way to see back inside the lock to see the key piece. I had to go to two different places to buy things. Long thin tweezers did NOT work, they were either too thick to fit into the slot or too bendable to snag onto the key piece. Fortunately one hardware store sold several different dental picks(!) and I found one I could use to slide back inside to snag onto the edge of the piece inside. I also was lucky to have the lock facing south and with a flashlight I bought and the Sun I was able to see back inside enough to see an edge. It took me a while to snag it out but it eventually came out. Neither of your ways would have worked for me.
but my driller and scissors are behind the door with the broken key LOL
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You, Sir, are a Genius! And now, I Look like one....With your instruction, I just got a broken key out of the lock on my Apartment Garage door, which was left in the open position. Cuticle scissors......worked like a charm! Thank You!
Thanks, it worked. I managed to remove the key before my husband came home to give me a lecture!
Thank you so much for this video!!! My key had broke in my home door, called the locksmith. They wanted to charge me $54+ dollars to come out. couldn't afford it, so i youtube it and your video came up. I did the first one (scissors) and it came right out! YOU'RE AWESOME THANKS!!!!!!!
U saved my life. U saved me money and hassle too. It worked for me with the first step . Thank u so much
Wow ! Quite helpful! I have followed your ways and I've succeeded to remove a broken key from a padlock! I was so desperate but you have helped so much! God bless you!
thank god the scissors worked. wishing everyone else watching this video the best of luck with their broken keys lol
I see so many negative comments here. I was about to take an axe to the damn door and the scissor trick did the job. Now I have a new, working lock on the door and it cost me nothing. You, sir, are a STAR !!!!!!!!!
Method 1: Now try it while the cilinder is still in the door and your work area is just 180 degrees aka a flat surface.
Method 2: You still need to replace your cilinder.
Using a 2nd key at the other side of the cilinder will push out the broken key in most cases.
First method worked a treat! Thank you!
Sir, thank you so much for sharing this, I could not get the another half out. The Scissor worked in one try. May my Heavenly Father, bless you for this video, as he did me finding it.
I'm not going to take the time to make a video about it, but if you take a sewing needle and break off one side of the eye, it can slide under the teeth of the key and the resulting hook will remove the key. I use a small pair of pliers to grip the needle. Obviously, size the needle to the lock.
Great advice. I used nail scissors which had a delicate curved end.
It's work for me
How can you move the scissors backward of the lock if its build into a door ???
First you must break your key, Second you have been locked outside your home.
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Using scissors with a curved and pointed end worked. Got the broken key out in a couple of minutes.
Thank you so much for the tip, saved me lots of money!
1. chew a gum until it loses its flavor. Then take it out of your mouth and mold it like a flat U-bed shape. Press the flat shape against the lock where broken key is showing. Now, put a string inside the U-shape and close it by folding down on both sides. Then, get an ice-cube and rub it over the gum until it is hardened. Lastly, pull the string gently to get the broken key out.
2.If that does not work, apply super glue or epoxy on the tip of the broken key and attach it to a string or something to pull the broken key out.
And if neither of these work, get a bottle of Jim Beam and pour precisely one quarter of the contents into a bowl. Don't dilute the bourbon... it must be neat. Place the bowl on the floor, get down on all fours and start lapping up the alcohol and mewing like a cat. When the bowl is empty, call the locksmith. Half an hour later the broken key will have been removed from the lock and you'll be feeling very very mellow. Problem solved.
Scissors worked for me. Thanks my guy. Pulled it right out.
3 ways and this is the best way. Cut a thin section of a plastic straw and super glue the 1 side. Slide it in wet side against key and let it dry. Pull and key will come out attached to strip.
Thank you for uploading this video. It worked like a charm, I used tweezers for a firm grip to pull the key out.
I tried the scissors one, and it worked! Like I don’t have to get a new lock😂 would’ve been a pain. Thank You 👏 👏
Scissors actually worked... didn't think it would..... but finally after a long struggle scissors worked... phew😅
I had no luck with scissors or tweezers. My daughter suggested her cuticle trimmers. Bam. First try.
If there will be a needle nailed from outside? Is it possible to remove? In a situation when the lock is in a door.
i am a caretaker in a big housing complex and broken keys are a daily thing....i use a bent paper clip and a pair of pliers....works every time and is quickly done
Of course BixRog! What we see in this clip is a non professional work... A pair of long nose pliers would be the solution, at the beginning, then paperclips and pliers. Still non professional, but more clean and efficient.
i use magnets
I have just removed the broken key from a lock very similar to this. I took it out of the door, held it with the broken key lowest and tapped the barrel gently a few hundred times. It just gradually came out due to gravity. I have to say i tried everything suggested in this vid and similar ... frustration was the only result. Just be patient, tap gently with a little hammer or similar and trust in the fact that it won't fall upwards! It will only make its way down until you can get a good grasp of it. Ah, such a relief to have it fixed.
Forget scissors/drilling just use two hardened needles and tease it out works every time
The scissors worked like a charm!! Thank you so much for sharing this video. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you! Scissors worked. Lifesaver
Thanks for the video , I used one of those micro screwdrivers and was able to remove the broken key without removing the door lock from the door. It worked a treat!
What I use is a pick tool go in slow once the pick it’s all the way in I turn it either way to 45 degree and take it out as fast as I can and the broker key comes out
As far as i am concerned. Thank You for the great video and information.
Me as a locksmith watching this, it feels like my eyes are bleeding..............
Share something then you stain rather than criticising
Thank you, just had the key break off in my shed lock. Scissor technique opened it straight away. Thanks again
What worked for me, tiny bit of super glue on the key, stick it slowly hold for 10 secs, then gently pull it out.
I thought of that before I saw this video.
But then you still can't use the key anymore. I like the scissors technique.
@@kevinayala7358 I then got a ride to get key copied, it was my car key and my only copy lol, stuck in circle k store lot.
@@kevinayala7358 but you still can't use the broken key with the scissor technique?
Thank you so much. Today take out the broken key from the main door a week ago. I looked for a key maker in the area a 🍃🌸🍃
found the price at $ 40. It did not cost me to take out the key. Just a small scissors
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Am I the only one who finds funny a DIY video with a guy, whos "not that good" at dying? :D
neat tricks! For option 1, you could use just about anything that was pointy, and for option 2, you could in fact use the drill bit to pull it out. :)
Thank you very much for the idea. I used a small screw driver. It worked like a charm.
Spent 30 years doing operations & maintenance working at a state facility. Sometimes I covered weekend shifts, any & all service calls- too hot, cold, drafty , kitchen equipment not working, toilets, loose snake outside. Usually I did the job by myself- not always. For keys broke in the door-lock- I carried a regular safety pin 0n my tool belt. I would stick the point barely in the door hinge and tweak the point- just barely is more than enough, and slide it in alongside the key, and work the key out. If I couldn't do this in less than 5 minutes, and I did do it, 9 times out of ten, then the situation was more dire than my basic skills and I would have to call in the facility Locksmith on a 4 hour overtime call out. (Usually disturbing his family weekend).
best to use old coping saw blade cut tip at a slight angle with snips works every time, point teeth toward you
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Do you know strong neodym magnets?
omg my key is broken ........wait there is scissors in my pocket and drill in wallet thank god
Thanks! Instead of scissors I used a dental pick because scissors wouldn't fit. You just saved my company the price of a locksmith and gave me the pleasure of repairing it myself.
super glueing the two pieces back together works sometimes too
I tried tweezers to no avail. Tried scissors after watching your video - it worked! Thank you!
OMG ! someone please buy this guy a pair of pointy nose pliers !
Just did this for my Mom. Thanks! It took about 20 seconds.
used a pair of scissors today(26/9/19) to remove a piece of broken key from my front door,using your technique,all I can say is thank you very much.
Thanks mate I tried the first method it worked well.
thank so much for this vid
Daughter just broke key in lock and I removed it just now in seconds with my nail scissors
phew!
This took me 10 seconds with the scissors ! Thanks
in most of the cases you can use a strong magnet. eg. neodium, from an old hardrive. you're welcome.
Nem Ez Most keys are made from brass you could have a magnet from a junk yard that lifts cars but won't pull that key out 😂
You made my day with this video! Thank you!! I had the broken key twisted inside and using scissors I fixed the situation 😁
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get a set of miniature watch screws,mini flathead screwdrivers,they will stick into the top and pick that right out !!
This video helped me out. I got it out by the first method by prying it out. I have to add, if the key don't come out easily then turn the lock into a different position and try that. Then it came out very easily for me
Speaking as a locksmith who does a of this stuff.. Ignore this video.
pjdambra and do what instead...
Powerful explosives will usually get the key out.
Used a really small, like for eye glass repair, flat head screwdriver. Worked great. Thanks!
I use a pick, usually a single hook!!!.. Slide it down the side, twist the pick and pull.. POP, out the broken key cameos... BOOM into the grinding machine and make your customer a new key
I had pulled out a broken key that was so deep in the cylinder that I could barely see it inside of it. All I did was to take the key cylinder out just like in the video, got a hammer with a hard plastic tip, and grabbed the cylinder with the keyhole facing me; I started hitting it medium hard with the hammer. And slowly but surely the piece of broken key started to come out. What happens is that the locking pins in the cylinder holds the key in it using pressure provided by some tiny springs , but when you bit the cylinder's body with the hammer the springs give way and the broken key starts to come out. And that's the end of it. Just that simple. I wouldn't think this trick will work on all different types of locks. But I'm pretty sure it will on most of them that uses a key like the one on this video. REMEMBER TO POSITION THE CYLINDER WITH THE KEYHOLE FACING YOU AS YOU HIT IT WITH THE HAMMER.
I hope this helps somebody.
just put a little tiny bit of superglue on it put it back and pull it slowly
Nice 👍👍👍 I took a broken key out of a door thanks alot I appreciate it
So I'm aggravated because my key is broken in the door and that music just tripled my anxiety way up! I really wanted to see how you got the key out but I just couldn't handle that music
I once got a broken car key out with a hooked stanley blade. The point can hook on the relatively soft metal and then you can pull it out.
Just got my key stuck and the scissor hack worked,this hack was from 8 years ago and it still worked regardless ,thanks so much
Now my dad won't have to get mad at me,LOL.
I used small flat head screw driver and my thumb and it wiggled out. Husband was trying to get it out with curtain cutters?! I said move aside I’ll show you stuff, I can do stuff.. He couldn’t believe it! Thanks whoever gave me that tip.
Whew... This video saved my life..
Just stuck two small screwdrivers either side and pulled mine out in about 2 minutes.... Tweezers were too fat to get in the sides. GL
Simply solder piece of wire on key and pull it... without lock damage Easier and clean way
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I doubt it would be simple to solder to a key in a lock... that's a big heat sink.
"my method" is tested in three cases and work
Thermal transfer between key and lock make important role. Know practice in hard repairs is also welding nut on cutted(cracked) screw, very similiar principle.
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So my front door key broke off and my scissors and drill were in the house.
that sucks
U good now?-
I'm a locksmith that has removed hundreds of broken keys so I think I can say that I have experience in this area. Use a good set of broken key extractors. But for the layman who doesn't want spend any money on tools a needle can work well. The NUMBER ONE reason most people can't remove a broken key is they try to remove key thats turned in the lock. The key can only be removed in the vertical position. Something everybody knows by using their locks everyday, but don't remember when a key is broken. It's a very common mistake that has made me a lot of money.
Scissors worked for me, thanks man, my mom would have killed me lol
Scissors worked perfectly. Thanks.
And when it's the locked door into your house and you don't have access to your tools?
Universal key works everytime, its called a brick!
Try spraying with penetrating oil and use a very strong magnet. This worked on my boat trailer lock! John Castelluccio, Jr.
10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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Watching the scissors method helped me out a ton! I was able to get a key out that I was really struggling with when trying to use pliers
Once my key broke inside the hole. I took it out with a vaccum cleaner
A big like for the video. 👍 I just got the broken key out with the scissors method although I used two eyebrow pluckers 😄
In a perfect world the key breaks flush with the key hole. In the awkward mine just a small part of the key broke and stayed deep in the key hole..
Same
I used my MacGyver-knife to do the same thing, it worked like a charm! Thank you!
OORRRR go to the store an buy a new damn lock! lol
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especially since you already destroyed it by drilling
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Worked for me. A big thank you is due and earned.
Tip no.3: get a locksmith. Tip no.4: move house. 😸
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how to bring police at your door in 10 minutes. USE A DRILL MACHINE at 2.a.m. :)
Not only are the two methods shown stupid (scissors? Any point object?); let's drill a hole in the lock (duuuh), but the person doing them is useless as well (clumsy and unskilled). If using the pointy object, you should apply pressure on the other side as well. And you NEVER drill the lock (how dumb is that). As another commenter suggested, why not just use a key extractor, or hook. So... how are these 'brilliant' solutions? Who rates these things?
THE SCISSORS WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
We all here because we got our keys stuck in our doors 😭😭😩
They make flimsy keys these days. Depends where you get itcmade
Very helpful video. Saved my a lot of $$$$! Thanks for posting!
put crazy glue on finger tip and touch key nub a few seconds...pull out key remnant and then type in youtube "how to get crazy glued stuff off your body parts"
Actualy sharp needle points and exacto knifes would well to pry em out ,,,sharp edge catches brass key pretty solid! WAY better than thick friggen dull a$$ed scissors!
Doug Chaney Put it on youtube with the title How to get out broken and superglued key part!
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في طريق اسهل بكثير فقط ادخل مفتاح صالح من الجهه الاخرى وسيخرج جزء من المفتاح المكسور من الجهه المقابله وبإمكانك ان تخرجه بكل سهوله بيدك
If you still have access to the other side of the lock, put in a key from the other side, the broken part will come out and you can grap it with
pliers
An easy to remove the broken key is to put another copy of the key from the other side and the broken key will appear and you can withdraw it easily
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Thank you! It worked straightaway with the scissors!!
I got a key that's way further inside the lock so I can't use a scissor to get it and I don't have a drill piece.
Take the cylinder and slam it against a cinder block or something hard. Use penetrating oil it should help sliding the broken piece out
the best way is that you buy a new lock, or call a key maker. or call one of your parents.
Hahahahaha
Pooya Kiya, why do any of that? Just call a locksmith.
Place the second key on the other side, it will be faster :)
i wanan get my broke car key out of ignition..got a way ?
stick a magnet to the exposed key surface with strong glue..and pull it out ... :)
Powerful neodymium magnet solves this problem in 2 seconds
Guido Fawkes where do I get one?
Guido Fawkes wrong keys are made of brass not steel
Neodymium magnet, I do not know how you are, in Russia they are sold at every corner, look for Ali
No just like coins, keys aren't magnetic.
I broke a key in the door lock trying to get in. It was broken off partway along the key back inside the lock with the edge as a twisted shard, not cleanly evenly snapped off with a piece accessible from the outside. Scissors cannot reach into a lock. I spent a while trying to find something at a hardware store small enough to reach back into a lock that I could try snagging onto the key piece that was strong enough to not bend AND a way to see back inside the lock to see the key piece. I had to go to two different places to buy things. Long thin tweezers did NOT work, they were either too thick to fit into the slot or too bendable to snag onto the key piece. Fortunately one hardware store sold several different dental picks(!) and I found one I could use to slide back inside to snag onto the edge of the piece inside. I also was lucky to have the lock facing south and with a flashlight I bought and the Sun I was able to see back inside enough to see an edge. It took me a while to snag it out but it eventually came out. Neither of your ways would have worked for me.