Is SBMM Good or Bad for Warzone? (My Opinion)
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- A couple days ago, I shared the results of a test I did which proved to a reasonable degree of certainty that Skill Based Matchmaking (SBMM) is being used for Warzone, despite the devs stating that it wouldn't be. Today I wanted to dive deep into my opinion on this implementation and whether or not it impacts my view on the battle royale mode.
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the most annoying part is that they lied
My guess is that IW told information that was given them at the time. ATVI probably changed their minds and forced SBMM as it is better for busines (as casual/avg. players are much bigger audience than above avg. players that usually are vocal in communites)
So many of them lie
They have been lying since the start of the game and throughout it. Anybody who thinks they're generous because they're giving away free maps most of which are bad, are easily fooled.
They need to turn the sbmm back down and the footstep volume back up.
They have crazy amount of patents they just filed for sbmm it will be around for all future cods.
It’s bad for me because I’m good enough to get into the lobbies with pros and streamers but not good enough to beat them.
This
I have been killed by so many pros it hurts. Played two games in a row and got killed by symfunny and aimbotcalvin. I'm not a pro but I'm not mentally disabled sad to say I'm never touching the game again.
Yea, I haven't played a shooter in a long while until the beginning of the quarantine, and when I'm playing well and start ending up in the super high skill lobbies I just get rocked, then I'll drop back down with my confidencechipped, missing shots and still dominate people
Same, I have 0 consistency when it comes to KD game to game.
shut the fuck up you are making it seem like every match you play is with pros just take the L and move on to the next game
I get bounced between skill levels all the time. It makes it where I'm not having fun. The worst part is that they hide it
Bro I felt this, camping 155 star generals😂 I ran into squads just sitting upstairs in a building waiting for the next circle it's just sad
same bro, i played 3 games like 2 days ago and all were above 12 kills. then today i struggled to get more than 2 kills in any of the 5 games i played. it sucks :(
"a chance to affect connection quality" - biggest understatement of the year
lmao exactly. When I played Warzone sometimes I'd be matched up in games where people had 144+ ping. That should absolutely never happen in a game like CoD.
@@xenon5493 yup, i have couple of friends with around 5kd and they get so fucking laggy servers like in every third game they log in.
Yeah I have a 2.2 kd and I almost always have 100 ping + games :(
Yep everyone of my games seems to lag. I got better internet then it stopped and I became a better player, suddenly I'm lagging again. Ummmm yeah connection based is it bull shit lying scum developers
Okay... Score per minute and kd are directly linked to skill I don't know what your talking about... If it's score based it is skill based as well
I run in to this situation with some of my friends. I'm no pro but would like to think that i'm slightly above average player. My friend is a very casual player. When he plays on his own he feels he plays significantly better but when he is in my party he has a really had time playing. After about 2 games of warzone in my party he's had enough.
My personal experience is I bounce back and forth between easier lobbies and harder lobbies and can be frustrating exactly like mentioned in this video
I got the same problem i actually bought a cronusmax plus wich is a device to mod on console and i installed a reverse boost script on it so i can have fun games with friends. I am really dissapointed that i have to go trough al that trouble so i wont play against sweats.
Me and my friends have the exact same problem. My friends complain of having lobbys full of sweats all the time and when I play with them I play way better than normal. When I play on my own though I feel like I’ll have great games followed by terrible games all day and it’s very frustrating riding a wave like that. Sometimes when I’m popping off it doesen’t feel to change though. Maybe I just stay at the higher skill bracket during that time🤷♂️
same problem with me, makes me annoyed that im playing with my mates who play 1-2 a week and we versing lobbies that play like everyday cause I do and they are partying up, makes it frustrating for me for my stats and my mates cause they hate how sweaty it is and get over getting stomped on,
gaming is my hobby but they play to chill out and my lobbys arent chill
lisse RKC thats a way of cheating tho man, I wouldnt tell people I have that 😂, hope u dont use aimbot cause its ‘easier’ too 😤
@@lisserkc6000 "I bought a cronusmax plus to mod on console" so basically you're cheating dude. I dont know why call of duty hasnt banned this from scripting yet. such a joke.
I definitely feel the “bouncing between brackets” a lot. Trying to get gold on every weapon makes it so a few games I can dominate when using optimal weapons and attachments, but when I want to use an off meta gun I find nothing but 6 man squads all using m4/mp7. Makes getting bad guns camos super frustrating
hes talking about warzone.... theres no 6man in warzone lol wtf you smoking
@@rifie1495 SBMM exists in Multiplayer as well, which is what he is talking about.
Agreed man, I get bounced around a lot, never really use the Kar 98 so started leveling up on shipment, I know its a crazy weapon to use there but one-shotting on that map is pretty good to practise, I got 3 back to back shipments and went heavy negative, but was happy with my performance considering, Next map was rust and I guess the game decided to throw me a bone and put me in a potato lobby, honestly it was joke I think I went like 60-5 without even trying, I wasn't doing it to reverse boost but I guess the effect was the same. The situation just suks.
cody kemp lol wait till you get to the launchers if you haven’t done so yet
I keep bouncing back and forth too :(
It’s messed up how the SBMM algorithm decides when it’s your turn to get a win. It’s not that you got into a lobby and fought through 147 other players of varying levels of skill. It’s that the game decided you’ve done poorly enough recently to be put into a lobby easy enough for you to win
Yes, it's a condescending and infuriating approach.
I am at a point where I can basically predict when I will get a win in the next few rounds. Normally if I have 10-15 bad games it's pretty certain that i will win within the next 3 rounds
Some days I just don’t feel like playing the game. I just feel like the devs punish me for putting time into their game but they reward players who couldn’t care less about how they preform. I just want to cry sometimes because it feels like I can’t play an fps games because the ones without sbmm are basically dead.
I agree about everything you've said. A protected bracket is fair for those who are disabled etc and as a result are way way way below average. Beyond that, sbmm should 100% be removed
Nah,as an average player id rather play against guys like me vs playing against against noobs or pros. Let the averages play the averages, noobs play the noobs, and the pros play the pros.
I haven’t really played COD properly since MW3 on the 360. I gave modern warfare and Warzone a shot and I am glad I did. I would have given up on this game if I was pooled up with pros.
@@tarshinator Indeed. And really, proper competition is always between equally-matched parties.
Nah,
@@tarshinator As ace pointed out though, if SBMM were removed most of the lobby would consist of average players and gave an explanation of how it would help everyone in the long run.
@@tarshinator No dude fuck that shit some above average players don't want to sweat fest every single game.... I just want to rack up kills and have fun not fuckin have a heart attack to get 1-2 kills a game.
Yeah im for sure on that "rollercoaster", get like 6-10 kills for 3 games in oceania server then into 300 ping lobbys getting beamed by jackie chan for 3
Stan Jackie chan always gets me too bro :(
Jackie Chan plays this game?
@@mcnalga Jackie Chan has been getting me since Battlefield 4.
Shanghai nope
Captain Swag it was always people like Hwang Nae Fuk Tao Zing that would wreck me in bf4
Skill based match making kind of takes the skill-set variety out of the battle royal
But, then why people gona play warzone when they never win...
I totally understand it though. If you're a scrub or if you're playing with your son or something, you won't find any enjoyment getting starched every time you leave a building
You don’t get shit on every time. It’s bull shit. If everyone is in a lobby bad players camp good players run around. So good players die more often and more bad players towards the end. Y’all just want a catered lobby. Get good quit crying.
@@rostatesnar6345 it didn't stop anyone in fortnite for years
@@well_as_an_expert_id_say it won't be every time tho. There are more casual/average players than high skilled players, and with random lobbies you will have a good chance of not running into many top tier players. Some games you will and some games you won't.
Agree with all your statements, I very much doubt anything will change though. Especially since they have never even addressed it.
Other issues:
-SBMM can be totally manipulated with reverse boosting (and I'm not surprised some content creators do it when it's their livelihood)
-promotes creating new accounts to smurf (unlimited on F2P)
-Content creators with good gameplay will be wrongly accused of reverse boosting (no proof)
-Imagine in CS:GO if in Global Elite someone could just whip out an RPG or drive a truck down mid, if I am going to be playing skilled players FFS at least make it a fair gun fight
Not to mention that it makes players who are slightly above average like me and thousands of others feel demotivated because we just get punished for trying to get better.
It also encourages unfun and campy play styles.
This is exactly my experience. I'm a little above average with a 1.5 kd and average 3 kills per game. And sometimes I can get 15 kills and sometimes I barely get 1.
Did i Play yesterday with you and your mate on trios on warzone and win ?
@@Donterrific me?
Caffrey yes
@@Donterrific what makes you think it was me?
Same except my kd is 1.37
I dont like SBMM. BR games should be random (ie: finding weapons, armor, ect) The players should be random too!
So there will be sheep you can hunt before some real tiger kill you....you mare KD can survive.
Dude it's stupid but I think they should make it 50% 1 easy and 1 hard lobby to help them.
But you just want sheep and trust me noobs can really do some shitty things.
I'm getting H1Z1 flashbacks, Warzone in its nature aims to be less random in mid and lategame with easy healing systems, loadouts and Gulag. There's always going to be two sides of the coin here.
@@tirtel1 the Gulag just means I get to come back and die again as I win most if my fights but never a shootout
That explain why the first game I did I got 16 kills and 2nd place. After That it was all down hill
Same. Dominated my first solo game with 13 kills and a win. Haven’t gotten close to that number since
I feel you bro. I had 4 wins within the first 10days since launch, since then I can't even get more than 3 kills. And I often have long boring campy rounds. This sucks
And not only that but people learn to play better as well. First time you jumped into Warzone then other 149 people were just as clueless. Not everyone has a strategy and know all the best spots
CapunatorTV to be fair hackers have flooded warzone as time progressed.So you may have been taken out by hackers but just didn’t realise it. But I have read that 50,000 warzone players been banned, I’m assuming it’s for hacking. Hopefully more will be banned in the future. That way I won’t die by someone beaming me whilst I’m behind cover.
@@ajharmiah2692 I got beamed behind wall from two lv 155s and they still around 2 weeks later...
Exclusive ace: SBMM is in Warzone
Koreansavage: Alright ima reverse boost these matches
I’m a causal player, I usually don’t play unless it’s with friends. I just happen to be much higher skilled than them (I have a 2kd they are both around a .7). Why do I get punished for being good? I don’t enjoy sweating when playing. Sbmm killed apex for me and now this game too
Because for you to enjoy casual playing, 10000 real average players cannot. And since both things cannot be achieved, a developer will always choose what is better for the highest number of players, in order to make more money.
@@Snowridertn Cod didn't have Sbmm back in the day and it held its player base for the entirety of the game cycle. Nowadays, if they didn't have BR, no one would care about the game. Casual is casuals. You will either stomp or get stomped. It's that simple and it shouldnt have to be any other way especially in a game like COD. No one, and I mean, no one, cares about competitive cod compared to games like CS, LoL, Overwatch, etc. Cod was always known to be super arcady and casual. And people liked it for that
sacoto98 This was before micro-transacions got popular though. To maximise profits the developers want to ensure everyone is having an okay-ish time to stop people uninstalling the game hence the introduction of SBMM. Imo
@@oneday7672 but now it's completely senseless. They have a micro transaction system that doesn't bother anyone and it even makes them more money. They have to drop SBMM.
sacoto98 That’s just not true mate. I’m a good player (3.02k/d wz) and for example in SnD there are many players that have the CDL camo packs. So many people fall into the trap of micros.
Ive gotten a bit frustrated with warzone when playing with my friends. Every game we get are so sweaty, after 3 days of playing we only ever got 2nd place maybe 4 times, with hours of play time.
Can relate :( Sad to hear it's not just us.
its not sweaty if all u need is a truck
Just gotta get good kid lmao. I easily break top 5 every game with my boys as long as we make it through initial gunfights and get our loadouts...etc. Practice makes perfect, communication is key as well.
Dominic Borrelli who give a fuck ?
c6dandi
I’m top 10% in the world in most of my categories so no
13:53 I am slightly above average skill level, and this is what I experience all the time. It can be incredible frustrating - and to really sweat and fight for a good score doesn’t really seem worth it because of SBMM. I know I’ll most likely be thrashed in the next match. No fun in that.
Pretty much. Get a few vtols and get 25-5 in that match... the next few matches I'm getting thrashed at like 5-15, can't even get a uav at that point... a game I played the other night they were running around with pistols getting 2 shot kills and it's like my m4 is shooting blanks 🤷♂️
I notice a huge difference when playing with friends! When there’s 3 or 4 of us together on normal multiplayer we get much harder lobbies than when I just play on my own.
Sad to say but it’s that bad I actually prefer to play alone :(
Probably have a high skill team mate
Same!
Yeahhhhh we all went our separate ways until Warzone came around, now I wish we'd hit some random lobbies instead of SBMM for squad play. I'm the weak link, never win a Gulag at their level, always gladly buying me back in, but that sucks also... it dominoes from there.
Why can’t they just make a competitive game mode/section like bo4 had. That was so fun, and it felt so good to go against players I knew the rank of, and I could pat myself on the back when I know I just dropped tons of kills on other great players. It also made me a better player, knowing where I stand and how to get better.
Because it will end up kind of like fortnite, with most good players and streamers playing a little bit of competitive for tournaments but mostly playing pubs to get gameplays. I hear what your saying, but people who in enjoy dominating and beating bad players are gonna stay in pubs.
@@ahastar1141 so what if they do? most good players love SBMM so long as there's a ranking system implemented. Take BO2 league play for example. Its a massive middle finger from IW/Activision to force SBMM upon players in every game mode (excluding ground war but god the maps are awful) without adding a ranking system. They already have the data ffs how hard can it be everyone is asking for it.
lsn't there a CDL playlist? l actually tried it, everyone uses mp5 except me
@@medivh1035 theres no ranking system though for some reason
@@robbieteasdale6622 wow, that's really dumb to not have it. What a terrible and lazy design. They can literally copy a ranking system from league of legend or something, and then give players option to display a special border around their name according their ranking.
I can assure you that it does,in fact, affect connectivity. When i first started playing Warzone i found South African servers (the server that i have the best connection to) fairly easily. Now that i have a few wins under my belt i can only find European servers, where i get 200+ ping on and so i just hate playing Warzone now.
That's because there are much less players in the upper skill brackets, so you're going to be matched with people from all over the world. There are not enough players in South Africa to consistently fill lobbies with at every skill bracket.
The solution is to either remove SBMM, or to prioritize connection higher than it.
The game wasn't designed for competitive match and this is a big issue with SBMM, with a lot of RNG and a noob friendly things, everything bad about the game get even worse... Like people camping gets even worse, the punishment for bad RNG (circles and overall behavior of the enemies) gets even worse
Yeah it's turning into pure frustration at so many things outside of your control.
Corporate video game management doesn't care about this. SBMM is desiged to create addiction. You never feel continued success and you never feel continued failure, keeping players hooked.
this
This describes my relationship to life
I mean the toilet
It's frustrating for me because my stats put me in the top 25-ish percent of players, and that's a weird place to be. All of my matches are exhausting, considering I'm not as good as most of the people in my lobbies. SBMM has unfortunately made every aspect of this game a chore.
Ace has a point about low skill players potentially leaving the game due to frustration...but honestly I think it's over-exaggerated. Noobs don't care as much about losing. Little twelve year olds will rage but never put the game down. I was twelve once, I remember. But I'm playing warzone less and less because SBMM makes it less fun. I'm definitely done with COD after this. I want a casual shooter. I don't want to play ranked 24/7.
@@disccovered6392 I wasn't quite there yet, but I am after the past couple of days. It's an endless treadmill of sweats and I refuse to make alt accounts or reverse boost just for the sake of having one or two enjoyable games.
This coupled with the realization that the battle pass has become nearly impossible to finish without spending real money (the difference in level progression from season 0 to season 1 should have been a clue) is basically enough for me. At my level of play, 2-3 hours of daily play all season should be more than enough to hit max level and finish the pass without buying tiers (it's not).
SBMM and the current state of game monetization is ruining games for me in general. Guess I'll start woodworking or something instead. lol. HMU if you find something out there that's actually a decent casual shooter.
@@HeyYoVio That's what Doom 2016 was for me. I just bought the new one, but am slowly working on finishing the singleplayer before going to multi
DiscCovered what is a another causal shooter. Mabe Titanfall
The current company view of SBMM does it's best to alienate the "above average" casual player. I'm pretty good at video games. I used to be way better at video games but now I have things like a career and a wife and other stuff that means I no longer have 8 hours a day to play video games with my friends.
I don't have time or energy to play everything like its ranked
Fantastic video. Entirely agree.
A protected bracket (for say kd < 0.7 or first 100 games) is very reasonable. I don't want to fight people that don't know how to shoot their gun.
Currently there is disincentive to becoming better at the game. Usually, if you practice, you get better and perform better. I'm hard locked at a 2.2 and 12% win rate because I either play solos or we duo queue in top tier lobbies.
Also, when our sub 1kd players want to play, they can't even get damage on players in some lobbies. The skill gap is just so vast. One guy has already said he won't play with us again. He immediately went and won a solo game in his own lobbies.
They absolutely MUST ditch SBMM for the non protected group. It will kill the hype for the game.
That’s exactly it, the more I play the harder it gets, and if that’s the case what’s the point?
@Jack Hoff They should have a competitive que and a casual que. If you que competitive there should be no SBMM. But in causal you gotta have it otherwise most people will just give up and stop playing
@Jack Hoff reread my comment
You get to constantly improve because you're competing at higher level???
WTF are people even talking about, do you know how sports work?
@Jack Hoff around the people on your level you mean. Then we agree.
Or do you just want to play against inferior players all the time as you get better?
7:38 that happened to me! I've been playing since COD4 days, and my cousin (who averages a KD of .6) invited me to play warzone. At first lobbies seem to be of average skill, but the more we played, the sweatier the lobbies became. Now, my cousin doesn't invite me to play anymore lol
I wish connection was the priority like they SAID. Lag is out here saving lives and I have gig internet so I know it isn’t me
You basically nailed my biggest gripe with SBMM when discussing that it takes away a player’s ability to really see how they are progressing in the game. I’ve had a great time playing MW and I would say I’m an above average player but not by leaps and bounds. My lobbies, atleast in multiplayer, have seemed to even out but I was that player who was getting tossed back and forth between skill brackets. That’s been my biggest frustration with this game. I’m all for a protected bracket and even some sort of protection for players slightly above that if necessary; Overall though it should just be a random distribution of players based on connection for all the reasons you mentioned. It gives incentive to improve and to be able to see the benefits of improving over time.
100% agree
But isn't that what progressing is really like? When you lift weights, you are slowing making your workouts tougher and tougher. When they get easy, you need to move up the intensity. If you constantly play random players, how would you know if you are getting good vs just getting a wave of favorable lobbies?
ahastar1141 I understand what you mean and in reality it makes sense. Unfortunately it appears MW is only using your recent performance to judge lobbies; That being the case it often bumps you back and forth between skill tiers with a ranking system you can’t see. It would be like lifting weights and not only randomly changing the weight without you knowing but also not telling you how much weight you’re lifting. A far better system would be to use your lifetime stats along with some sort of rank that a player can track if SBMM is going to be used.
@@anthonyjoseph7521 I agree, It should be using longer term performance. My buddies and I played last night and we got lobbies full of garbage players. We got 5 second and 3rd places in a row then we finished top 10 3-4 times. Its a bouncy system but I definitely prefer something over complete randomness
SBMM should only be in ranked modes, end of discussion.
I'm the slightly above average player. The most fun I had in warzone was my first game. I had 9 kills and came in 3rd. Died to a truck in final circle. But every match since I'm dying off the top, or I have to play my absolute hardest to get every kill. It's not fun. It ruins the experience. And the time it takes to start a match again just deters me. I might as well just run MP so at least I'm not spending my majority of play time in loading screenns.
I played with a mate who bought the game recently, and I dropped 20 kills. I'm normally not that good. And I got these kills out of situations I normally wouldn't have survived at all.
It happened the same to me two days ago i hitted a 18 kill game in warzone with two casual friends. I was feeling like a god but now i see it probably was an easy lobby. Also im struggling a lot since then.
I have , and still do, hate the SBMM in the smaller modes before Warzone came out. But I am for a LIGHT version of it IF the SBMM comes in second to matching based on connection /location. I have noticed that a LOT of the games I have been playing BR where the lag is so bad that I am teleporting and half the lobby quits out. I think this is because they are prioritizing SBMM over ping.
In the smaller modes when I get in a really tight SBMM game where everything is back and forth that most of the time there are multiple players with a 100-200+ ping. In the smaller modes it DOES NOT BELONG and is wayyy too tuned in. As long as they keep it light and make connection a priority then I am cool with this one.
Same here
Yes. Ping should come first, then SBMM. And the SBMM should be very light like in Apex, or gone completely.
Bro i don't even know how long I've been watching your videos. You were honestly my main inspiration in starting my own channel. Thanks for another video, you're a legend.
Keep up the grind man. You're actually really good at modern Warfare.
First off all.. I also completely agree that there needs to be a protected bracket for new/below average players ( unfortunately I don't see it as being possible tho) people are still going to abuse the SBMM and take advantage of it, it's a software algorithm that is 90% flaws and cannot judge like a human, it's a computer, that is why it will never work.
Before ExclusiveAce made the video about confirming SBMM I will admit I was closed minded and was against SBMM 100% in any FPS game THAT IS NOT COMPETITIVE PLAY, but on his previous video someone commentated that their father is older has a disability that puts him at a handicap and the person explained that his father used to play video game when he was younger, he recently started playing and he loved the fact that his father was having fun (Even tho he was at a handicap, all thanks to SBMM) it really opened my eyes because I never experienced the lower bracket lobbies with these type of players. ( I like to think of my self way above the average player in gaming, no where near pro, but higher than the average player) and my lobbies I never got anyone that played like the dude in this video...
The algorithm is so flawed and pathetic that a single win will drastically increase a players MMR.... It's gotten to the point where I don't even go for wins anymore I only go for high kill games. I drop hot zones and just contest every fight I can. I get kills on average of up to 16-25(with randoms) in mid game and just keep playing aggressive till I die and i repeat it again.
When I played for wins and get wins I would always get put in higher ranking matches, but in those matches it was filled with hackers and it still is. Which makes the game completely unplayable. It reminds me of how pathetic Activision/ IW is that they are not willing to spend money on new servers and a Anti-cheat system ....
They need to publicly add a VISIBLE MMR so that players can see where they rank and INCLUDE INCENTIVES FOR PROGRESSING TO HIGHER TIERS... so that way players keep playing to progress and feel rewarded for playing against the sweaty wannabe MLG players who camp on the end of the circle in a corner house not moving . It has to be an item, for god sakes not a reward that only gives you XP.. Who ever thought about giving XP for rewards even after you're maxed level should be demoted.....
I think I've experienced the bouncing back and forth being a slightly below average player in Warzone. In one day of playing a lot, I'll go from being top 15 in my lobbies to either getting melted/lazered or outplayed at around 70th place. There was one comical beginning to a game where I had all my shots zeroed in on their head when they came around a corner. But after I died and watched the kill cam, I was way behind them; so to me, that was connection issue.
I'm not fully on board with only having protected bracket and then no SBMM after that. That would mean the same top 5% skilled players would win every single match. Is it wrong to want a win, even if it's against people who are just around my skill level? I will never get as good as the top 5%, or even the top 15%, so I would be turned off if was completely out of the realm of possibility.
I’m definitely the average. I had 3 games in a row with 15ish kills and then immediately had a few games with less then 3 kills.
The first games I had were like that
The first 2 days game released I got consistent 10-15 kill hands then it just went too shit
That is no way average. My max is 13, but my normal, when not fucking up on the drop, is around 5-6
@@mikaelbihl-matias9462 i won my first match then went a couple days without a win . Then got 4 in one day. 3 more spiratically and now on a 7 day dry spell
@@coreysmith7412 Yep. That's SBMM working overtime to ensure your odds of winning are always 1/150 and your KD is always 1.00. It's a boring system that should be removed from the game entirely.
I feel like I’m one of those people that bounces between brackets, my main MP stats have a KDR of 1.55, and in Warzone the lobbies vary so wildly
Same Here
That is me too. I have a 1.56 and one game I go off than the next 3-5 games are super frustrating and get shredded so I hop off to another game.
I think thats what they want to give the illusion that its not there. I know ive gone too far up when I can only use one of the 4 meta weapons in a fight to win and lose using literally any other gun, makes leveling up guns so painful and the game becomes so unfun and camping based. God forbid I use something other than the M4, Kilo, Aug, or MP7
I feel bad for Infinity Ward, I doubt they like SBMM, Activision probably just forced it upon them, but they still get a lot of the blame.
If this was a Treyarch game, nobody would blame Treyarch 😂
Lenny Ynnel Exactly, Treyarch almost never gets the blame for anything, since their the “favorites” 😂
@@thegreenpatriot8896 BO2? when they nerfed the DSR, vonderhaar went into hiding
@@stan5936 I think treyarch was the first to introduce actual sbmm into CoD with BO2, it was removed quickly from what I remember.
Stan Yes there were some instances where people got upset at them, but you got to admit IW takes way more heat for things.
I honestly don’t like SBMM, it makes the games that I play with my friends so hard. They don’t play much and I feel like they get put in lobbies with people like me, who are slightly above average. They feel the same way and don’t like to play with me much lol.
I remember being absolutely stomped by Dakotaz in Fortnite back in season 2, and it just made me want to get good. Why would any game have sbmm if it is non-ranked. The game isn't fun with the enemy team full of sweaty fuckwats, why would i want 149.
Yeah. Back in Battlefield 3/4 hunting a sweatlord could become your main objective during a game. And when you killed the little fucker, it felt sooooo satisfying.
Idk man without sbmm I don't think I'd EVER get a #1 victory with crazy teams of streamers with insane skills/equipment/teamwork
@@TheV8Pumpkin Well, what could they do is to give us a choice. Give us a SBMM playlist and one without it. Problem solved. Are you a noob and want to learn the game? Go ahead and join the SBMM playlist. Want a more sandbox-like experience? Join the other one.
@@TheV8Pumpkin The percentage of those playing at that level is tiny, that's why people are watching them and they make a good living out of it.
@@Rodzyniastyyyy No, I don't want to only play against sweat lords as an above average player in a ranked setting. Let us all test our meddle, 1 or 2 super beasts per lobby isn't going to ruin the experience for casuals.
I could really go for connection based games because my ping in multiplayer is 23. My ping in warzone is 120
I play oceania servers at 120 ping, when i start getting caffeinated it'll put me in 400 ping lobbys against Jet Lee and Jackie Chan
My ping in Warzone is 75-120 and I constantly get killed by people when I clearly shot first, then the killcam shows them shooting first despite me clearly having shot much earlier on my screen.
Exactly ace, you hit the nail on the head with the summary at the end. What you were describing about reaping the rewards once you do get good, the journey there, That feeling when you know you have improved your skills. I think that is the very core of multiplayer fps. I remember my journey, nothing will ever beat that. Sbmm robs everybody of that. It has to go.
When I I search for lobbies, my ping start at 42, and gradually the ping goes up to 100+ the longer it takes to find a lobby 👎
Same
I play with my Dad, and it makes it impossible to play together.
Ty Cox can relate, i get whipped when playing in lobbies with my sons
Yeahhhhh we really need random squad lobbies to keep it fun. I'm a dad that play A LOT, but I'm never gonna break that ceiling to play at their levels. They spend so much time trying to buy me back in... I usually bow out after just a couple of rounds to play solo.
In this mw iam a gamer with a 1,25 kd. Previous cods it was above 2.00. So in this cod every match feels similar. At first I thought wow that isn't my cod or wow I lost all my skill . Ok but I want say something to squad battle royals. If I play 1,25 kd with my friends, also 1,25 and 1,70 it is so hard that i lost a lot of 1 vs 1 situation. With my other friends 0,8kd and 0.58 kd oh my God it's a lot of fun hahaha. But if the 0,58kd player is playing with me and my friend with 1,70kd it is no fun anymore for anyone but for the 0,58 kd friend its unplayable. So sbmm makes a cut between friends , it doesn't connect the community to have fun together .
The below average player in the hilarious pistol fight (1:30 mark) was actually Drift0r, trying to aim while dealing with his back ache.
Honestly it makes me just want to reverse boost so that when I play with my below average friends they dont just get destroyed every game because they're playing with me.
Yeah bro same. I'm gonna search for an AFK script so I can reverse boost to get easier lobbies.
Nate Gatsby nice pfp
thats why i created an another acc, to play with my irl friends
@@beri4138 have you found any? trying the same
That player who couldn't shoot you.
I respect. He actually tried his best and he was probably mad but he'll get better.
We have all been there Bro
he problably quit the game immediatly and cried himself to sleep
Michał Sommerfeld lmao I felt so bad for that guy, hopefully he sticks around
I respect that but theres solo games if you dont want competition, I wasnt playing multi when I started playing fps, he shouldnt be separated from good players
Na terrible players usually don't get that mad. Its usually the average or slightly above average who get the most triggered for some reason
The main thing that bothers me about this system is that I don’t feel good about my performance in game. Knowing that I have a good game and then right after that get put into a very sweaty lobby is very disheartening. That just means if I have enough bad games in a row, the game will take pity on me and then throw me into an easy lobby. That just makes me sad tbh
Same man, I only have one solo victory, to me it did feel like a legit win, the 1v1 at the end was some dork with a riot shield lol, honestly, I couldn't believe it !! but the matches after that I had a feeling like a lot of others their was SBMM and to be honest I have now lost interest.
Johnny641 I totally feel you. This system just makes it feel less rewarding. If a ranked playlist was added that would be great
Ace, I'm so thankful for you explaining all of the in depth detail to us. It's disappointing to hear that they blatantly lied to us and further more made us always question our skill set as they don't just show us a skill rank. I would consider myself at that slightly above average warzone player (1.15 k/d and 170 s/m; warzone stats only) where every other game I'm questioning either how I can't get a kill or how I just pulled off a 1v3. I really wish they instilled a ranked playlist so I could either play competitive and possibly reserved and go purely for wins or play casual and just a have a beverage and have some fun with my friends. Unfortunately, it seems like most of the time I pull my friends up to my skill rank and we have to go all out just to survive the first two circles. The idea of a controlled beginner lobby makes the most sense to me as it would help them retain their target audience of younger new players who will want to get better and buy new CODs as they come out.
Either way end of rant #1.
Start rant#2: I still can't believe they won't invite you out to early access events. You've been loyal to COD for years and are one of the few who have continuously posted COD content even through the hate it's received in years past. Plus the fact that you data test and play test all updates to let us know what the patch notes refuse to tell the general public should speak for itself. I know Activision has COD partners and they get first priority but not only should you be a COD partner but they should be begging for you to come to early access events and post on the what they want to promote. The fact that they don't leads me to believe they are the smartest business people.
Your above average player explanation where we just keep bouncing around is spot on. That is definitely me. I am constantly going through a cycle of where I think okay, I am decent at this to the next 5 or so straight games where I say dang I suck and hop off and play something else. The highs you get from doing good or winning is amazing. But there are far more lows and frustrations for me that with the sbmm this mode brings. I have the desire to be addicted to this mode but the sbmm really turns me to other games because the mechanics aren’t super frustrating.
When I play with my not so skilled friends. Every time they get killed they say its a hacker not even joking every SINGLE DEATH they rage that it was a hacker its getting ridicules.
I think you meant to say “ridiculous”
I played with my buddy who has an average k/d of 3. I‘m at 0.9. I got drop shotted, jump shotted combined with 360 no scopes so often I thought I was thrown into a lobby full of cheaters
To be fair there's a lot of cheaters in the game.
its possibly some on on a controler if they have no recoil. Just go to 9:40 that shouldnt be possible with no stock at that distance
@@SgtRaptor yea its crazy im not even that good 1.66 k/d but everyone here dropshots,camps in corners, rooftop campers u name it. Tryharding like their life depends on it. So playing with my lower skilled friends is impossible one of them hasnt gotten a kill in a week playing with me sadly.
Protect players till level 55. Video games don't need permanent safe spaces for players.
This
No. Skill has nothing to do with level and should not be tied to it. Remove SBMM. Don't tie it to level.
@@beri4138 you don't unlock all the items until level 55, which does give an advantage to players who are 55 or higher
@@pattarick1054 And you don't unlock all weapon attachments until you get the weapon to around level 55-70. This gives an advantage to players who leveled up their weapons higher. What's your point?
@@beri4138 you can have a fully decked out m4 by the time you hitt 55... At least by 55, you have access yo all equipment and perks, which actually makes a bigger impact than weapon attachments
the “roller coaster” you suggested is 100% my experience in this game; i flip between 8-10 kill games to immediately hitting a string of 4-6 games where i can barely make it past the second circle. i have a 1.41 kd and a 217.5 spm, so i fall in that slightly above average category; it can be extremely frustrating... keep it up; love the videos!!
I just go on cod to troll at this point. Sbmm has really killed my fun and love for cod. If a fire breath shotty is all I got for fun around here I will use it.
KillerReign _ I feel the same way. I’ve started shotgunning and sniping. I hate both, but at least the variety give me something to do
I'ma still destroy you lol
I'm definitely in the "slightly above average" category. I'm not amazing, but I've been playing cod long enough that I can get wins and high kill games. But playing warzone is so frustrating because I'll go from dominating in one match to dying in the first 3 minutes for the next 5 matches.
The area i stay in already lets me have a average ping of 100...now the download speed is so low on battle.net m getting 200 plus heavy packet loss..only on blizzered.Not to mension i keep getting disconnected to battle.net evry now and then...sitting on these conditions how's SBMM is supposed to make me feel any better matching me against players with 19-30 ms ping ???
Tbh mate this sounds more like a you problem. Unfortunately SBMM won't do anything to help your shitty connection, if you can't afford or don't have access to decent internet you can't really complain about your lag, you kinda put yourself in the situation trying to play games on bad internet. I'm on pc, can tell you 100% not an issue on IW or Actis end.
@@Slimjim2147 I have a great connection with 8 ms ping on Speedtest.net. I still get 120 ping in Warzone because there is no server close to my country. The game connects me to servers half the globe away from me. This is not a me problem.
Ace has gotta be the best COD RUclipsr. Almost always knows what’s best for the community and voices it fairly. I wish Activision would actually listen for once and get rid of SBMM in both multiplayer and Warzone. It’s hurting the game not helping it.
ace you should do a video on the EBR. I've seen some people using it and it looks really good. Great vid btw!
Idk why they would have sbmm if they're not going to have a ranking system. I'm honestly tired going agaisnt the same above average or sweaty players every day and I just burnt myself out on the game. I bought Doom Eternal and played that instead. Until they somehow tone it down or remove it all together I will start playing it again. Also footstep audio needs tweaked still. Even with Bass low it gets better but it's still trash. Now with below average players yes keep them protected.
The worst thing is that they lied. People just need to stop wanting everything to be easy it could be worse it could be like fifa with dynamic difficulty changes mid game 😂
Well, not necessarily though, afaik no one actually did the testing for group play, and that was the only mode available when they made the comment. Unless I'm missing something.
Gareth Unsworth just get pes bro
Man you hit the nail on the head with pretty much everything. Watching that clip of you in the super low skill bracket, it made me realize I've never thought of people playing that are that bad, so I completely agree with the protected bracket. One thing I disagree with is the SBMM. It absolutely affects my connection to other players. I live in the middle of Utah and one game I'll have a fantastic experience, then the very next it'll be so bad I'll get a gun kill on the guy that just killed me AFTER I respawn because the latency is so bad. I know it's not my internet, I live alone and have 250mbps down with no one else taking bandwidth.
Thanks for shedding light on this. I'm an above average player with a .88 k/d ratio and play somewhat regularly (couple nights a week, 2-4). I never could understand how i can have such mixed nights of performance, from hot to sucking hard...it's very frustrating. Granted, for sure, it's me sometimes, can't blame SBMM and I like to play some hardcore but the variance is just ridiculous sometimes. Throw this is in with other crappiness from infinity ward (darn awful playlists, poor map and gametype rotations, crappy huge maps with small player counts - looking at you 6v6 on huge map garbage, downright ludicrous spawns - oh i just killed you so they spawned you behind me) and it makes for a really miserable experience sometimes. This isn't hard, they have soooo many other great MP games to pull tips from in the industry and yet they seem to like giving us the middle finger.
Yes SBMM ruins the experience because I don't want to play like a sweaty tryhard 24/24h and SBMM forces that kind of gameplay you need to play like it's the CDL finals all the time.
I completely agree with your argument. The biggest problem with SBMM is that in the long run you will get sick of the game because you will never feel like your improving because you won’t really know if your opponents are getting better or if your skill has plateaued
Warzone is a mixed bag for me, I have 1.9 kda which is not that high but still in the top 10% according to codtracker, same goes for my score per minute, when i play alone its usually fine, i can get around 7-10k most games and even though i rarely win i have fun, but when i play with 2 of my friends, one of which is barely even and the other kinda below 1 in kda it's a miserable experience for everybody, i either wipe out team after team, leaving them with nothing to do, or we get pushed by competent players that wipe the floor with my friends and i'm left to 3v1 over and over. I just wish that if they had to put in SBMM at least they would have put in ranks like Apex or LoL.
As an amateur game dev and someone who understands the limitations and obligations when making publisher contracts, I really wish people would stop bashing competent developers as much as we do.
Especially in the AAA world, we know how talented the dev team can be, but at the same time, the "business side" has to make sure that these games fit stats and analytics that nets them players and money.
Kinda makes stats pointless though
Makes me feel like i haven’t improved even though i have a lot
I completly agree with you. I feel since launch of Warzone I get worse and worse everyday. Feels bad man
It makes me want to question if I should be proud of my kd or sad :/
You and I have a similar outlook on SBMM. I've actually been testing it myself around the time when you were. I was formerly ranked #2 in the world at Warzone and just wanted to see the difference between my lobbies vs "dummy" lobbies. Definitely a BIG difference. My main account, I would connect to professional players such as HusKerrrs and Clayster, while my dummy account found players who barely used their thumbs. I'd much rather have SBMM removed as it would create a better environment for players as a whole, and in my opinion, a more fun game.
the connection part i can tell you i've been through different pings everyday cuz i play with my friends who some of them are not good at the game
I have a 1.23 KD and this summarizes my cod experience exactly. Bouncing around.
Honestly I don't mind sbmm, if it is its own playlist that shows me how I'm doing compared to others and gives me something to work for (rankings). But the way it is set up currently in modern warfare, and in other br games, it only helps keep the casuals around longer. Everyone I know that is any good (k/d of 1.00+?) hates it and makes them not want to play the game. In my opinion, the only people who like sbmm are the devs and non-competitive players that play less than 1 hour everyday.
Tyler with good reason I might add, of course the super casual players have more favor on not going against better/sweatier players than someone that would have a k/d of over 1.
I'm a good player 3.8 KD in Warzone, and I am fine with SBMM. Most players I go against are pretty okay, but I go against mostly 1.4 KD players so they probably are pissed lol
public rankings would make all the difference. They must have determined this method to be the most profitable tho. Activision doesn't give a fuck about anything but maximizing profit
I'm not a good player, I try do do well and sometimes I find success but in solos I get matched against the sweatiest of sweats which will camp in a corner with Cold Blooded and Ghost and will laser me the moment I see them. I just can't anymore, I see want to be able to react. I wasn't that bad at other BRs.
I really appreciate your in-depth thoughts on these issues. I am one of those average, everyday players who started out doing pretty well. I didn't feel like a beast by any stretch, but I would say I was averaging about a 1.5 k/d and in the first week the game came out, I got 3 wins in trios. Since then, it's been insanely difficult. I have gotten 3 more wins over the next few weeks, but my k/d has dropped to .90 and I feel like I'm getting murdered. I love this game, but it has lost a ton of enjoyment these last few weeks.
Thx Ace 👍 One thing not mentioned (and impossible to prove) is that MW SBMM likely is about the most pronounced in COD history. A combination of the protected bracket for beginners plus toned down SBMM for the rest is also a possibility. As you mentioned, at the moment classic 6v6 suffers greatly - because of the high level of SBMM.
I have a 1.89 kd in warzone. When I'm playing solo or with random trios I usually get 8 or more kills and play really well. My best friend Is a beast of a player has over 3kd on warzone on blackout he had 4.7 kd. When I team up with him the lobby's are way harder and I'm lucky to get 6 kills. And we run into hackers constantly
I've got a 3KD and recently the amount of cheaters I am coming up against is ridiculous....
Can someone with more knowledge than me start a petition to remove skill based match making from multiplayer and war zone, minus the protective bracket.
Not gonna happen. SBMM caters to the majority of the market. Every one hates it on Ace's channel cause they're all COD nerds like myself but there are tens of millions of other players out there that like it.
@@sc0tt0777 hi not a cod nerd here first cod game ive actually played online i love everything about the online except for the god awful map design creating an awful playerbase and sbmm bouncing me so much and so quickly i go from a fisrt game (tdm) getting 20+ kills to struggling to get 6 and going severely negative every game after.... no real chance to improve or even have fun... its honestly sad how a game can be so close to amazing and a publisher just shit on it
@@sc0tt0777 Agreed, in these videos you are going to get a disproportionate amount of people who hate it because they are likely high skill players. I mean whether it's true or not, half the people in the comments section call themselves "above average". Your typical casual is out there playing for fun and enjoyment and they typically have the most fun against people who are there same level. Unlike good players, avg players don't drop in expecting to win, and end up getting disappointed by being killed. They expect wins to be tough and are genuinely excited when they do win. I think streamers and content creators like putting out good game plays, but with the illusion of playing fairly relaxed and casual. Thats where I think the disdain comes from, as once you get to a certain level, almost no one is casual and everyone is trying thus making them try hard and ruining the illusion.
Thanks for adding a shout out to those of us playing with disabilities
First of great videos! I can really appreciate the time and effort put in and how honest he is. About SBMM... I am around average with about 1.2 K/D and I bounce between higher and lower level lobbys all the time. It's really bad when I'm playing with unevenly skilled friends, I can never tell if we're getting a good round because we're doing well or if it is just the game feeling bad for us.
I honestly wanna see the data that activision supposedly has that “confirms” people actually enjoy sbmm. I’ve read thousands of comments and dozens of videos and I have yet to find 1 person who actually likes sbmm and wants it to stay
Well that's not really weird, people that like or are ok with something usually just go about their day, it's the people that are annoyed that's vocal.
@@jongustavsson5874 Yep. And online gaming communities tend to be some of the biggest/strongest examples of those sorts of self-reinforcing hivemind bubbles.
It's horrible. Makes it less fun. You can be good at the game, but suddenly just be average in the lobby and rarely get wins because of that. But sure, having just that one protected bracket with everyone that has a k/d of like less than 0.8 or around there sounds fine to me. Other than that it just makes the game worse.
less than .05 on battle Royale, only complete noobs should be separated.
I really hope the developers watch and understand this video. Ace explains this so well.
I am slightly above average and you are completely right the other night when i played I won a game and my next game was noticeably harder I agree there should only be the bracket for the well below average players and that’s it I know myself and my friends would enjoy the game much more
Friend: “Are you good in cod?”
Me: “last game I got 13 kill and 5 dead”
Next game with friend
Me: 4 kill 18 dead “I didn’t see were the enemy was coming from”
Friend: “you never got 13 kill and 5 dead on the last game”
PS: I play ww2 then by the middle of the game cycle I forgot I had the game, but still watch the CoD RUclipsr and didn’t make want to go back to the game. I was trying for gold weapon, then I forgot about the game.
Yep I’m one of the people getting bounced around. I’m super over it. Been playing COD for 13+ years, but this is my last one. I’ve said that before, but I just turned 30 and idk I just don’t get the thrill out of it as I once did anyways and then add on this SBMM in literally every game mode and I just can’t anymore. I play games maybe 2 times a week now tops and I don’t need those to just be frustrating.
feel you bro been playing since cod4 hate sbmm every game is hard AF , no variety
Hey! I just wanted to let you know that I absolutely LOVE your content. I consider you the Einstein of CoD and your videos have helped me so much and answered so many questions I had, so first of all, I wanna say a big thank you. I’d like to know how you get all the data and stats that you so carefully provide in your videos. I think it’d be interesting to know your process and how you get the results you get. Having said that, keep it up! You deserve all the views and subscribers you’re getting and so much more.
Call of Duty did something like that for World at War. Up to a certain level, you would only play lower skilled players, and then you just play everyone once you reach the level where you're no longer in the bracket. That's how all games with SBMM in pubs (unless the game was made for comp playstyle) should be. This was a very well structured and informative video, looking at both sides of the spectrum.
As a 3.8 KD player in Warzone, I can still win fairly easily in solos. I can get about 1 win an hour or so. However, when I play trios with some friends that are around 2.0 KD we get absolutely owned a lot of the time and come across significantly more hackers. It's super strange, and really puts me off from playing trios since the scaling of SBMM seems off or something.
Sub 0.8 K/D within a protected bracket I’m absolutely all for. As much as I love dropping 15+ kills, I can live with not dumping on players like that. But 0.81+ should be fair game. At that point you’re close enough to a 1 K/D that you’re deemed worthy enough to go against the masses. I DON’T want to play 50 teams of 3 of people my skill level. It means I have to use the meta all the time in order to stand a chance because that’s all they’re going to be using. And not to mention SBMM can really screw with server connection. That’ll
be a no from me dawg.
Vagabond_Charlie couldn’t have said it any better.
"I have to use the meta" No you don't. This gets said far too much, despite being entirely at odds with the other complaints about SBMM. You get matched with people who perform on the same level as you, so if you use nothing but OP/meta gear, all you're doing is artificially raising your performance and matching with people who can perform the same WITHOUT using OP/meta weapons. It works the same in reverse, where if you were to use, say, just a pistol, you'll get matched with players who perform at the same level while they use normal or even OP/meta weapons (meaning worse and much worse players).
Ironically, SBMM makes it EASIER to use any gun you want and do well with it.
Nooooooo! Slippery slope Ace.. slippery slope. We need to stand against it completely.
I’m one of those players who are slightly above average and it really does suck. It’s just like you said Ace, it’s a rollercoaster. I’ll do good for a few matches and start to feel good about myself, and then BAM! I get seriously wrecked for the next few matches by people who are clearly way above my skill level. Then after I suck for a good few matches I’m magically good at the game again. It’s so frustrating because in the good games I consistently get 2+ K/D while playing the obj. Then when it puts me in the harder lobbies I can’t even go positive most of the time, especially if I try to play obj. I go like 0.5 K/D if I do that. BTW I know I just commented about multiplayer but it’s literally the exact same in Warzone. Also you’re spot on about low skill players not being able to play with their friends. Our third rage quits basically every night after we play for a while because most the time he can’t do a darn thing in our lobbies. And he’s no bot either, he’s been playing cod for 10+ years. He’s just not quite as skilled as we are, and it’s so frustrating that he can’t play with us and have fun because of that. That’s just my long winded way of saying I hate SBMM lol 😂
Stopped playing Cod after I was fed up with sweat lobbies. Then came back for warzone because it "won't have SBMM"
Now I don't play warzone or any Cod anymore because playing against copies of yourself is boring.
TropicalParadise if you’re in sweat lobbies then you’re a sweat
@@SoundcastStudios Which proves my point. Its not fun to play like that game after game after game. There is no variety.
@@elitistninja Does variety even matter? Everyone is still going to run the same loadout regardless if they're good or not.
@@elitistninja Except you don't have to play like that. This gets said far too much, despite being entirely at odds with the other complaints about SBMM. You get matched with people who perform on the same level as you, so if you use nothing but OP/meta gear, all you're doing is artificially raising your performance and matching with people who can perform the same WITHOUT using OP/meta weapons. It works the same in reverse, where if you were to use, say, just a pistol, you'll get matched with players who perform at the same level while they use normal or even OP/meta weapons (meaning worse and much worse players).
Ironically, SBMM makes it EASIER to use any gun you want and do well with it.
@@BleedingUranium You could not be more wrong.
**SBMM was never implemented from the good in Activision's heart. (anybody who thinks so is Naive)**
**SBMM is objectively illogical and completely contradicts the natural progression of skill.**
It was implemented to foster a false sense of success within the minds of unskilled/below average players in hopes that they stick around long enough to spend money on MICROTRANSACTIONS.
**Good players buy skins.**
**Bad players don't.**
ATV is looking to change this around as the percentage of good players is vastly smaller than then % of bad/unskilled.
Untapped market. We'll see how it turns out. Hopefully it fails and bad players still don't buy MTX.
Very well said.
IMO it's okay to have a low skill bracket where really unskilled players don't have to be put in teams of much more skilled players, which is terrible in 6v6 where teammates matter. However, matchmaking forcing win rate at 50% and KD at 1 as hard as it can for the entire playerbase (in MP) is pretty bad.
I don't think you know what objectively means, nor is what you are saying logical
SBMM is meant to group players of like skill together. This is a staple of any competitive game.
@@246trinitrotoluene Yes and in other games, you are told the level you are playing at. They will have ranked play and casual, casual will have mild SBMM to keep very low skilled, new players or those with an impairment out of main lobbies.
I am not against SBMM but the way it is implemented in MW is atrocious, the brackets are tiny, I am now joining 50% of my games mid-late match, I am getting put on servers outside of my home area so playing at a decent level is practically impossible sometimes.
The SBMM is hidden to allow match manipulation, people who spend a fortune on the game can be placed in lobbies where they are guaranteed to dominate, they will carry on spending, if they give these people an actual rank that reflects gameplay, telling them they are dogshit would cause an uproar. It's all about keeping people spending money.
Competitive play is great, but it is also nice to level up off-meta guns, do some challenges etc.. or play the game not at 100% where your brain feels like it is gonna melt every match.
In WZ it's even worse With SBMM as an average to slightly above average player there is no way to get better. When you suddenly do well, it's not due to improving but rather that your competition has become worse as the game has chucked you a bone and put you in a lower tier lobby. This cycles just continues and you just remain an average player yo yoing between brackets.
The protected bracket is a great idea. Such a good idea that Treyarch already implemented it 12 years ago with the Bootcamp playlist in WaW. Now they can just do it in the background with metrics more relevant than just player xp and let the people who are familiar with a controller enjoy variety in their matches. But they won't.
I would just like there to be an actual visible rank so you know where you stand in the match making
This is what I've been waiting for.
SBMM is the exact reason i quit going for the "dark matter" came for this game (I haven't played in a while so i don't remember the exact name)
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I live in Finland but I'm always getting matched with americans and asians 😂
Damascus
It's Damascus, but honestly between sbmm and trash weapons it's not worth it. Not for me at least. The fun factor in this game is kinda low to begin with and grinding that hard for a pretty meh camo takes it into the negative. Just trying to level weapons that are trash takes it to near zero really and this is coming from someone who platinumed pistols in core
@@joetalley192 In order to find fun in using other weapons is to see them outside of the M4 and MP5. I find the best of them to be the RAM-7, PKM, MP7, AK-47 with 5.45, Bizon and Grau 5.56. However, that's difficult knowing of those weapons, so I can see how the fun factor is low for quite a handful of people.
That guy at the beginning was absolutely adorable. You could tell all the brain synapses were firing and they were doing their best.
It 100% definitely affects your connection, it takes me 3-4 minutes to get a match and its almost always a garbage unplayable connection. I was put down to high traffic times etc but after wiping a few times in a row the connection cleaned up and the even the stuttering stopped for a few matches.