Quick Guide: Brahms Symphony No. 4

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    A quick guide to Brahms' Fourth Symphony - including the First Movement (Allegro non troppo), Movement 2 (Andante Moderato), Movement 3 (Allegro giocoso), and Movement 4 (Allegro energico e passionato)
    Enjoy!

Комментарии • 110

  • @trevorbrown5714
    @trevorbrown5714 3 года назад +127

    My favorite symphony of all time. It's so intense, passionate, and beautiful. I can never get enough of it!

    • @BrunoVasco
      @BrunoVasco 3 года назад

      2

    • @roko199200
      @roko199200 3 года назад +1

      This symphony accompanied me through very hard times in my life it occupies a very special in my heart too

    • @johannesbrahms4930
      @johannesbrahms4930 3 года назад +6

      thanks bro

    • @genejones4110
      @genejones4110 3 месяца назад

      It's not my all-time favorite... but I totally understand why it's yours. It is my favorite Brahms symphony, though. My first live CSO Solti performance was Brahms 4. It was mesmerizing.

  • @FiveSharps
    @FiveSharps 3 года назад +33

    This was the first piece I ever conducted. Despite the length and scale, its by far his easiest symphony to conduct and one of the greatest minor key symphonies ever, especially that heart wrenching finale. Always leaves this incredible somber mood when it is over, and usually the audience even takes a moment or two before clapping.

  • @nevets0910
    @nevets0910 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wow just finished watching all these videos, amazing music and history! Hope you consider doing Mahler’s symphonies in the future!

  • @theodentherenewed4785
    @theodentherenewed4785 3 года назад +10

    The best Brahms symphony to top it off. One of the best symphonies of all too.

  • @ngershon
    @ngershon 3 года назад +8

    In the Brahms vs. Tchaikovsky argument, it always seems that musician really love Brahms wereas for the listeners Tchaikovsky is so approachable in comparison. By this point in my life I have come around to Brahms (the symphonies, the concertos Iv'e been listenning to for years), and these videos have bridged them a great deal. They also make you understand why musicians love him so much.

    • @oibruv3889
      @oibruv3889 3 года назад +1

      No need for an argument, both are fantastic, and chances are we have time to listen to most of both

  • @Luanne_Ashe
    @Luanne_Ashe 3 года назад +15

    I love your channel. I am delighted that we can have continuing education in music appreciation without sitting in a stuffy classroom. Keep it up!

  • @everettworld1765
    @everettworld1765 3 года назад +6

    I love your passion, I used to listen to 4th Brahms after coming back from work 2-3 years ago.

  • @johannesbrahms4930
    @johannesbrahms4930 3 года назад +14

    I really put a lot of effort into this!!

  • @JJJRRRJJJ
    @JJJRRRJJJ 3 года назад +4

    Nice to be reminded how much I love this symphony.

  • @sgwinenoob2115
    @sgwinenoob2115 3 года назад +5

    Wish you made these longer! Excellent work

  • @tomheikkinen8494
    @tomheikkinen8494 Год назад +5

    Brahm's 4th is a true masterpiece. Sibelius is my favorite symphonist of all time, but there is relatively little commentary on his work. Perhaps Inside the Score could analyze one of his 7 symphonies?

  • @mithramusic5909
    @mithramusic5909 2 года назад +3

    I love the channel, and I'd love to have more of those symphonic deep dives like you posted on Spotify in years past! Thanks for breaking things down for everyone

  • @nynms203
    @nynms203 3 года назад +42

    (the intro page with the parts says Beethoven 4th Symphony instead...thought I might point it out)

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  3 года назад +25

      Noooo! Well noticed - sorry! But the info is definitely for Brahms haha

    • @nynms203
      @nynms203 3 года назад +8

      No problem, keep up the amazing work! Love your content; we use it for A Level Music analysis sometimes 😂

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  3 года назад +17

      @@nynms203 that's awesome haha. Yeah I don't think this mistake is worth re editing and reuploading the video for though. I think people will realise it was just a slip of the mind

    • @alexandrugheorghe5610
      @alexandrugheorghe5610 3 года назад +1

      @@InsidetheScore it's good enough. You're doing well. 🤜🏻🤛🏻🙌🏻✌🏻

  • @Theisentheis
    @Theisentheis 3 года назад +6

    Would love to hear you about Tschaikowsky 1st, 4th-6th

  • @amdir7902
    @amdir7902 3 года назад +6

    A really nice series! I´d like to see Sibelius´ and Bruckner´s symphonies next!

  • @iggymokriski
    @iggymokriski 3 года назад +3

    Great video, If you're feeling up it I'd love to see these Quick Guides on Schubert's Symphonies.

    • @laurencestaiff7338
      @laurencestaiff7338 3 года назад +2

      Yeah I second that! Schubert is such an interesting composer

  • @durinvoronwe
    @durinvoronwe 3 года назад +9

    It would be excellent with some Bruckner next, in order to experience the greatest Codi (Codas?) ever written!

  • @fcanerdogan
    @fcanerdogan 3 года назад +1

    That is one killer 4th movement!

  • @stuzzop1709
    @stuzzop1709 3 года назад +23

    Bro i think you should do the Mozart's requiem

  • @simonjarvis6542
    @simonjarvis6542 3 года назад

    I have happy memories of listening to my father's CFP records of all the Brahms symphonies (Hallé conducted by James Loughran) in the 70's. No.4 is probably my favourite and the Kleiber recording is great.

  • @stevereade4858
    @stevereade4858 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for a wonderful, informative and ... entertaining explanation of my Favorite symphony by my Favorite composer!

  • @georg2740
    @georg2740 2 года назад

    I love especially the celli in the second subject of the first movement. It is just so sublime! I can only recommend the recording of Karajan. Just otherworldly and sublime! Hopefully our generation understands the beauty of classical music and preserves it well enough, your channel definitely helps in falling in love with it!

  • @Ivan_1791
    @Ivan_1791 3 года назад +2

    Nice, I have been waiting for this. :)

  • @johnargeles7019
    @johnargeles7019 3 года назад +3

    I am doing this symphony right now in music theory!!

  • @emrecankiraz2340
    @emrecankiraz2340 3 года назад +3

    We are eager to see a Schubert video!

  • @pedromimo1952
    @pedromimo1952 3 года назад +1

    Great job! This is awesome! It's not very easy to find online real explanations on what's going on inside the piece (themes, modulations, etc.). One thing I would like to ask is the differences between the themes and subjects - honestly I got a little lost when you were talking about the main theme and then the second subject. If you are taking suggestions, please do the New World Symphony :)

  • @עמיתמשיח-צ1נ
    @עמיתמשיח-צ1נ 3 года назад +1

    Great video! I just listened to this symphony today, now I can't wait to listen to it again. What's next? Tchaikovsky maybe?

  • @firzaakbarpanjaitan
    @firzaakbarpanjaitan 3 года назад +5

    For next cycle of symphonies, may i suggest Rachmaninoff? Another i would love is Shosty's 5,7,8,10,11, and 15.

    • @daph0307
      @daph0307 3 года назад +3

      Sibelius and Mahler would be great also.

  • @mr-wx3lv
    @mr-wx3lv 3 года назад +2

    I think it's probably the finest of his set. It's very serious, passionate and personal. I wish conductors would play the second movement slower (but that's my personal preference)

  • @jmrecillas
    @jmrecillas 3 года назад +2

    After seeing your previous analysis on Brahms Symphonies, I waited with such a longing this that I cannot give you to much thanks for this brilliant analysis on his Fourth. Nevertheless, I just can say Thanks a lot for your effort on clearificate whats happen on this marvelous and astonishing masterpiece.

  • @earl3736
    @earl3736 3 месяца назад

    Can you also make a quick guides for Mahler symphonies? That would be much appreciated.

  • @juanmanuelcincunegui114
    @juanmanuelcincunegui114 3 года назад

    Best piece of all times...

  • @HanGration
    @HanGration 3 года назад +1

    Lovely horn calls in the exposition of 1

  • @stephanieray5940
    @stephanieray5940 3 года назад

    Could you do some Christmas classics someday? You’re so good at breaking down music and making it easy to understand. I wish I’d had these guides in my life when I took intro to listening in college.

  • @gemnox
    @gemnox 3 года назад +1

    If you plan on doing more of these, you should do the Schubert symphonies.

  • @theoldar
    @theoldar 3 года назад

    I can't remember who said this, but in commenting on this symphony he said "In the presence of such genius, we must bow our heads in awe." Amen.

  • @sirya-bookie9495
    @sirya-bookie9495 3 года назад +3

    Mahler symphonies next please!

    • @dannysampson615
      @dannysampson615 3 года назад +2

      I second that!
      Maybe throw in Bruckner too

  • @kumo-kun1831
    @kumo-kun1831 3 года назад

    By any chance you can make an analyse on the famous violin chaconne by Bach? These great video is great 💖💖💖

  • @christophernewman5027
    @christophernewman5027 3 года назад +2

    Oh, l feel like l've waited an age for this.

  • @Cesar_SM
    @Cesar_SM 3 года назад +1

    It would be interesting if you took Nielsen's fabulous six symphonies at some point.

  • @akwan2000
    @akwan2000 3 года назад

    Is this the Kleiber recording? If it is It sounded way more dimensional than the same recording on Apple Music

  • @marcusdibenedetto7958
    @marcusdibenedetto7958 2 года назад

    Love your analysis. Thank you. Take a listen to a new release I absolutely love: Manfred Honeck (conductor), Brahms #4, Reference Recordings, FR-744SACD. Release date: 10/22/2021.

  • @arturmoraes5655
    @arturmoraes5655 3 года назад +2

    Shubert next?

  • @roiehay7547
    @roiehay7547 Месяц назад

    3:35 "Dramatic Fire" Gen z of classical music

  • @saltburner2
    @saltburner2 3 года назад +4

    I've long thought the three greatest symphonies are Beethoven 3, Schubert 9 and Brahms 4.

    • @watutman
      @watutman 3 года назад +1

      @@modernclassicalmusic8942 Yes I love Schumann 2 and 3

  • @sourjyabanerjee9310
    @sourjyabanerjee9310 Год назад

    Minor IV-I sounds so devastating,as in the ending of the first movement.absolutely devoid of hope 😢

  • @Enrobdoolb
    @Enrobdoolb 3 года назад +1

    Wait!
    My form teacher said the 4th movement is a chaconne?!?! I even brought up it being a passacaglia but she said it isn't. The first 8 bars are a straight up chaconne, or are they both?
    Someone plz respond cuz I love this movement and I see both pass and chac in the score 😭

    • @Cherodar
      @Cherodar 3 года назад

      Chaconne and passacaglia are often treated as more or less interchangeable terms.
      But when they are differentiated, an important characteristic of the chaconne is its starting on beat 2, which Brahms doesn't. Your form teacher is incorrect. I wouldn't say it's wrong to call the movement a chaconne, but it's definitely wrong to deny that it's a passacaglia.
      The thing you often hear about a chaconne being based on a chord progression while a passacaglia is based on a melody line is untrue and unhelpful.

    • @Enrobdoolb
      @Enrobdoolb 3 года назад

      @@Cherodar ok, follow up question because I've read so many books on this piece and I'm still a bit confused.
      Source: "the victor book of symphonies" (Charles O'Connell), says it's Passacaglia
      EDIT: Pages 131 - 133
      Source: "Norton anthology of western music 7th edition" (J. Peter Burkholder & Claude V. Palisca), says it's chaconne
      EDIT: Pages 943 - 976
      WTF 🥴😀😀🥴😀🥴😀🥴😀 but thank you for responding!!! I was hoping someone could explain, but as of the moment, I still can't decide cuz my professor and other form professors have said this is a chaconne 🥴🥴🥴

    • @Cherodar
      @Cherodar 3 года назад

      @@Enrobdoolb Well, it seems you've discovered that there is no clear answer! The textbooks don't agree, the professors don't agree. Some things are like that!

    • @Cherodar
      @Cherodar 3 года назад +1

      @@Enrobdoolb You're welcome! Remember: if something seems like it doesn't quite add up, good chance it genuinely doesn't.

    • @bencostello7435
      @bencostello7435 2 года назад

      The terms for all intents and purposes are interchangeable, but Brahms preferred Chaconne.

  • @huyiii2435
    @huyiii2435 2 года назад

    The first two chords of shympony 4 is eaxcatly the same start as Mendelssohn s op 103.

  • @Marabiza
    @Marabiza 3 года назад

    I'm searching for some material, but until couldn´t find, what is a "grim Cadence"?

  • @BennoWitter
    @BennoWitter 3 года назад +4

    Can we talk about that the second subject of the first movement sounds like a tango?!?

    • @FreakieFan
      @FreakieFan 3 года назад +2

      Bernstein called that section a “mad german tango”

  • @LinusCello75
    @LinusCello75 3 года назад +1

    Maybe as a “break” Berlioz S. Fantastique?

  • @brendanward2991
    @brendanward2991 3 года назад

    For me the finale is just a set of variations, like Beethoven's Eroica. I don't see how it's a passacaglia or a chaconne. Did Brahms himself call it either? (If he did, I concede the point. Who am I to argue with Brahms?)

    • @bencostello7435
      @bencostello7435 2 года назад +2

      It's certainly a passacaglia/chaconne and not a theme and variations. Moreover, there is a macrostructure of something "sonata-ish"

  • @BillDeef
    @BillDeef 3 года назад

    I might have missed it. Why is Beethoven's Fourth pointed out at the beginning?

    • @willsober7161
      @willsober7161 3 года назад +1

      He said it in somebody else's comment, it was a mistake, the info after is still for brahms tho

    • @BillDeef
      @BillDeef 3 года назад

      @@willsober7161 Thanks.

  • @gabrielsilvanegreiros
    @gabrielsilvanegreiros 2 месяца назад

    🌎

  • @juwonnnnn
    @juwonnnnn 3 года назад

    👏

  • @BennoWitter
    @BennoWitter 3 года назад

    I like passacaglias. Especially Händel ruclips.net/video/MQ8svM3S9t0/видео.html (even the modern interpretation by Halvorsen) and H.I.F. Biber ruclips.net/video/sgcR183f8gA/видео.html
    I hope to see some more about baroque music on this channel in the future. It's so underrated these days.

  • @moreaulerence-ler2531
    @moreaulerence-ler2531 3 года назад +1

    Do Schubert all the way to Philip Glass !

  • @adrianoseresi3525
    @adrianoseresi3525 3 года назад

    Primephonic are the only ads I get on these videos.

  • @biomuseum6645
    @biomuseum6645 3 года назад

    Why don’t you analyze Schubert’s symphonies?

  • @JamesBrown-dg8le
    @JamesBrown-dg8le Год назад

    Anyone notice the mistake in the intro that says Beethoven instead of brahms

  • @matiasasef
    @matiasasef 3 года назад +1

    * Sonata = Per sonare *
    * Cantata = Per cantare *

  • @005422iyy
    @005422iyy 2 года назад

    07:58

  • @ЕленаШатравка-ц5з

    So, why Beethoven?😊 (0:09)

  • @ApostoloZeno
    @ApostoloZeno Год назад +1

    0:08 BEETHOVEN??????😅

  • @yeah8598
    @yeah8598 3 года назад +1

    I can hear on this how much brahms was inspired by J.H.Schein (1586-1630)

    • @Anonymus-z3z
      @Anonymus-z3z 3 года назад

      Interesting. Do you have a specific work(s) in mind?

    • @yeah8598
      @yeah8598 3 года назад +1

      @@Anonymus-z3z yes.Banchetto Musicale

    • @yeah8598
      @yeah8598 3 года назад

      @@Anonymus-z3z the start of the mvt.2 is the one that most remenbers me it.

    • @Anonymus-z3z
      @Anonymus-z3z 3 года назад +1

      @@yeah8598 thanks for the quick answer. :)

  • @gigogrom216
    @gigogrom216 3 года назад

    E F# G A A#! B D# E
    Most intense note (A#) is on Golden ratio (5/8)

  • @Alexagrigorieff
    @Alexagrigorieff 3 года назад +2

    It's not how passacaglia is pronounced. "Passagalia"?

    • @ric5963
      @ric5963 3 года назад

      gli in Italian is not pronounced separately

    • @Alexagrigorieff
      @Alexagrigorieff 3 года назад +2

      @@ric5963 That part he got right. "lia". But it's "passacalia, not "passagalia".

  • @AvGeekW159
    @AvGeekW159 3 года назад

    Ah, yes, the Contrabassoon concerto

  • @tahiragibson6407
    @tahiragibson6407 3 года назад +6

    A weird pronunciation of “passacaglia”! (By weird I mean WRONG.)

  • @themusiccritic3196
    @themusiccritic3196 2 года назад

    Who else came here because of Yes?

  • @kennethcarvalho3684
    @kennethcarvalho3684 3 года назад

    The narrator does'nt seem to connect with the narrative. That extra effort brings out the fact that he is merely reading it from a book.

    • @johannesbrahms3322
      @johannesbrahms3322 3 года назад

      Why do you think that it is read from a book? Oscar is a very engaging speaker, maybe that's what you are referring to with "extra effort". But let me assure you, he always talks like this in his videos.

  • @comeonoverandshootit
    @comeonoverandshootit 3 года назад

    oh, so *that's* how you pronounce passacaglia

    • @Cherodar
      @Cherodar 3 года назад +2

      It's not, really! The C should sound like a K, not a G.