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@@mochabear1092Ikr I can’t believe people actually lurk it’s so annoying and just an immediate rr loss. (I’ve never helped entry and only lurk long enough that the rounds almost over)
00:01 Understanding lurking can turn situations around and avoid unnecessary losses. 01:08 Lurking in competitive gaming requires strategic positioning and communication. 02:17 Lurk with stronger guns and relay information to team for advantageous gameplay. 03:29 Lurker safety and utility are crucial in team compositions. 04:46 Proper lurk setups ensure map control and flank protection. 05:56 Focus on enemy utility and strategic positioning. 07:03 Lurking involves neutralizing utility and communicating effectively. 08:19 Valuable communication is key.
Thanks for this series of good videos focused on certain mechanics/game plan, they really help a lot since I feel like Valorant is about making the best decision at the best time and there are for sure moments where I feel idk how to think or move. Great work and explanation as always Konpeki!
As someone who is often on viper and omen, astra, those two are by far the best lurk agents in ranked. And lurker's most important role in my opinion would be map control and timings
I started playing lurk because I wasn't confident in setting up the team as an Initiator and wasn't confident in playing Duelist. Playing lurk kinda made the game easy for me as I only needed to relay info and catch enemies off guard. But lurking can be a 50/50. You really need your teammates to win their duels to keep enemies distracted while you get the backstab. Pro tip for lurking is making sure you pick an Agent with passive utility, so the best Agents are Cypher, Viper, Chamber, and Killjoy. Omen can be good but he's more better as a Controller than a lurker. Cypher and Viper are good to start as a Lurker since their utility can be activated from everywhere on a map.
When I play Cypher on Attack I lurk maximum of rounds Because after I do the flank trip, I use my second trip somewhere mid to get kills from just having patience But if I get that enemy does not rotate from mid, I go site with teammates Else no lurk with other agents
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Thank you konpeki, now i understand how to lurk as a pheonix (i can throw a molly lineup from a distance so it's a gud lurker :D) i will not rankup to plastic 3 :D
They are right tho. If ur team struggles to push site push with them and trade each other. Cypher cages can help take site and his cam. Kj ult and double molys are good to clear some places
A small tip, whenever you show a 2d print of a map, please don't forget to say which map it is, rather than leaving us to guess by the shape of the map.
I think it's really important to highlight that lurking is NOT waiting in a corner for every enemy to rotate to your team and collecting late-round kills that don't matter. The misconception that a lurker needs to be completely silent at all times happens in every rank: essentially, you're making the round a 4.5v5 in the enemy's favor. More often than not, playing like this will result in your team losing the round and you having a meaningless flank that's simply way too late to have any impact. Although stealth is important in a lurk, the element of surprise should be used to 1. gather information safely(so as to not get punished) and 2. DISRUPT rotates either by applying pressure to stall enemies from rotating to your team or by cutting off rotations(for example going top mid on sunset), the latter of which should be the main way a lurker will get kills(NOT FLANKING! Flanking can be good but if you find yourself ending up flanking more often than not, you're lurking wrong).
@@krizzle3853 he means that since your team is always in a losing position because you're baiting them by lurking incorrectly, you have to provide >1 player worth of value later in the round to make up for it, which isn't sustainable for winning
Depends on the controller. If you're playing any agent that can send util across the map/not being here. then yes (omen, astra, viper) if you can't use "good" util, smokes for you then it's usually better to let some1 else do it (clove, brimstone, harbor). You can usually lurk with any agent if you get a double role on that agent class, double controller, double duelist etc
This is all good but this game is just AIM AIM AIM and AIM. If u have better AIM you win. If u are new to this rigged game just AIM train, no gamesens bullsh*t and other crap, just AIN AIM train and you will get better.
useless against people who can also aim like the other person said, its a 5v5 tac shooter, not cod, aim helps you eliminate the enemy team but what really matters is everything else as well as aim if the enemy can aim as good as you but also think better you're gonna lose
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Lurking duelists definitely clicking on this video
facts i hate them (i’m one)
@@rotisseriechicken1693 they’re so annoying (i literally do it)
@@facelikeghost there job is to entry not lurk (I lurk as reyna)
@@mochabear1092Ikr I can’t believe people actually lurk it’s so annoying and just an immediate rr loss. (I’ve never helped entry and only lurk long enough that the rounds almost over)
As a lurking Reyna and yoru main I can confirm I clicked on it in 0.02 seconds
00:01 Understanding lurking can turn situations around and avoid unnecessary losses.
01:08 Lurking in competitive gaming requires strategic positioning and communication.
02:17 Lurk with stronger guns and relay information to team for advantageous gameplay.
03:29 Lurker safety and utility are crucial in team compositions.
04:46 Proper lurk setups ensure map control and flank protection.
05:56 Focus on enemy utility and strategic positioning.
07:03 Lurking involves neutralizing utility and communicating effectively.
08:19 Valuable communication is key.
me watching this video to counter lurkers more effectively
Thanks for this series of good videos focused on certain mechanics/game plan, they really help a lot since I feel like Valorant is about making the best decision at the best time and there are for sure moments where I feel idk how to think or move. Great work and explanation as always Konpeki!
Sorry if I sound a little congested 😅 I rushed recording the audio while I was sick to get this video out to you guys
I have a question, isn't yoru the biggest lurking agent?
As someone who is often on viper and omen, astra, those two are by far the best lurk agents in ranked. And lurker's most important role in my opinion would be map control and timings
i just started playing cypher and this man posts this i need to check for cameras
as a lurking duelist i will do the opposite of this advice and get worse at lurking, thanks konpeki!
KD player and baiter is the right name xD
This is already one of my favorite videos of yours, its helping me rewire how I think about the game and bad assumptions I've had.
i still gonna assume lurking reyna is dogshit.
Your videos are helpful I’ve went from iron 1 to bronze 1 in a month by using tips
💀
@@Treyspilker?
As a person who has to fill smoke every round cuz of my instalocking duelist
This was very helpful
Does anyone know what game is this 0:17 victory sound from?
I started playing lurk because I wasn't confident in setting up the team as an Initiator and wasn't confident in playing Duelist. Playing lurk kinda made the game easy for me as I only needed to relay info and catch enemies off guard. But lurking can be a 50/50. You really need your teammates to win their duels to keep enemies distracted while you get the backstab.
Pro tip for lurking is making sure you pick an Agent with passive utility, so the best Agents are Cypher, Viper, Chamber, and Killjoy. Omen can be good but he's more better as a Controller than a lurker. Cypher and Viper are good to start as a Lurker since their utility can be activated from everywhere on a map.
as an avid lurker i am grateful for this video
7:52 me on my way to show this to my parents LMAO
When I play Cypher on Attack I lurk maximum of rounds
Because after I do the flank trip, I use my second trip somewhere mid to get kills from just having patience
But if I get that enemy does not rotate from mid, I go site with teammates
Else no lurk with other agents
KONPEKI I HIT PLAT. THANKS TO U!!!! Solo que only
U even told me “i wouldnt join my cosching if ur g3 ur so close”
But i was having up and down games BUT. I DID IT!!!!!
TY
and u know, im 42…. W00t!
1 view in only 1 second? You are growing fast!
So ur saying I run it down mid
omen lurk is goated
Thank you konpeki, now i understand how to lurk as a pheonix (i can throw a molly lineup from a distance so it's a gud lurker :D) i will not rankup to plastic 3 :D
Don't lurk at low elo, they would blame lurker immediately when dead 😂
They are right tho. If ur team struggles to push site push with them and trade each other. Cypher cages can help take site and his cam. Kj ult and double molys are good to clear some places
A small tip, whenever you show a 2d print of a map, please don't forget to say which map it is, rather than leaving us to guess by the shape of the map.
It shld essentially take 5s or less to guess the map it depends on ur gamesense
Tbf if you don’t know the map layouts you should be focusing on fundamentals first before watching a lurk video
Try to lurk in gold and you'll have 4 dead teammates before you even see the enemy on the minimap.
Same in bronze lol. It's either rush with your team and die or be last player standing 1v5 after 10 seconds
Idc, i lurk nontheless
i need someone somewhere to make an analysis of Zeta Lazvell's lurks
*locks reyna*
See ya guys next round!
where is my free radiant call?!
I think it's really important to highlight that lurking is NOT waiting in a corner for every enemy to rotate to your team and collecting late-round kills that don't matter. The misconception that a lurker needs to be completely silent at all times happens in every rank: essentially, you're making the round a 4.5v5 in the enemy's favor. More often than not, playing like this will result in your team losing the round and you having a meaningless flank that's simply way too late to have any impact.
Although stealth is important in a lurk, the element of surprise should be used to 1. gather information safely(so as to not get punished) and 2. DISRUPT rotates either by applying pressure to stall enemies from rotating to your team or by cutting off rotations(for example going top mid on sunset), the latter of which should be the main way a lurker will get kills(NOT FLANKING! Flanking can be good but if you find yourself ending up flanking more often than not, you're lurking wrong).
Late round kills that don't matter?? You're going to have to explain that one buddy..
@@krizzle3853 he means that since your team is always in a losing position because you're baiting them by lurking incorrectly, you have to provide >1 player worth of value later in the round to make up for it, which isn't sustainable for winning
thanks
Can I lurk as a controller?
Depends on the controller. If you're playing any agent that can send util across the map/not being here. then yes (omen, astra, viper) if you can't use "good" util, smokes for you then it's usually better to let some1 else do it (clove, brimstone, harbor). You can usually lurk with any agent if you get a double role on that agent class, double controller, double duelist etc
nAts is such a good example since he was the rattiest player in early days of valorant. And it was part of Gambit’s playstyle.
what the sigma
Nice
Yoooooo
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This is all good but this game is just AIM AIM AIM and AIM. If u have better AIM you win. If u are new to this rigged game just AIM train, no gamesens bullsh*t and other crap, just AIN AIM train and you will get better.
Aim is helpful but it’ll only go so far. Good aim won’t really matter once ur playing against people with just as good aim.
useless against people who can also aim like the other person said, its a 5v5 tac shooter, not cod, aim helps you eliminate the enemy team but what really matters is everything else as well as aim
if the enemy can aim as good as you but also think better you're gonna lose
32 views in 3 minutes you fell off.
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did this and team muted me so i had to throw