I've actually incorporated these into my squat days, performing them after my Wendler cycle. 5 x 10 at half my max squat weight. I realize that some folks do these with higher weight/lower rep schemes, but I like them as a change of pace after "traditional" squats. I believe they're helping with explosiveness on my back squat. Also, I've been recommending these at a lighter weight for folks suffering from the "navicular drop," as box squats encourage better form. Thoughts, opinions?
If you want to see their quad development all you have to do is...look at their quads. Further, this is not bodybuilding. They are not judged by the size of their muscles but by the amount of weight they move. If you don't like geared lifting, that is fine, but don't troll on videos of geared lifting.
Hey, if this is the real AJ Roberts, then get some more footage of Louie lifting. It's awesome to see somebody at his age kicking with heavy weights. Also, the rest of you are looking strong. I've heard AJ that you're looking at an 1050 squat? Is this true? Good luck.
I really don't get some people on here. These guys HAVE quad development, you can see it. Not everyone is so vain and insecure, they have to get big n' pretty and shredded, like some emaciated freak. Don't get me wrong--I train for mass and physique. But I want to be just as strong as these guys as well, and I use very wide-stance squats, just w/ less intensity, and shorter rest periods--no pretty-boy training for me, thank you.. Nothing but respect for Louie Simmons and his guys.
@PastorelloPowerTeam7 part of the goal of that DVD was to demonstrate that because of the american culture and the way sports have developed, top athletes are almost all taking some form of drug enhancement, like it or not its what is done to provide the best entertainment, most people just dont realise. looks like you missed the point of the documentary completely.
I only wish I'd found proper, FREE squat and box squat technique years earlier. I'd been doing all of my squats on a Smith, perhaps at parallel depth. Bad and bad. The Smith limits you, and while I still drove up through my heels, it isn't the best thing for your knees. Ditto for parallel depth. It's OK, but if you can break it, you give your knees a rest, contrary to the popular belief that you don't. Plus, you have all the muscle recruitment to bring up the heavier load.
I do wide stance way more than I do narrow stance, but when I do narrow stance I find it very easy. Sumo stance deads and box squats are the bread and butter of any great training routine. I hate stupid "body builders" and planet fitness freaks who dont know how to lift properly coming on here and bashing the rite way. I love showing up chicken legged roidos at my home GYM.
oh ok. if you squat more than him that would mean you have broken a number of records. im sure you have also trained some of the strongest people in the world too right?
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@flowride68 Yeah man! Anyone who squats real weight and wants to get stronger should be doing box squats more often than regular squats. It greatly improves speed and power coming out of the hole. All bottom work is necessary. You can easily incorporate these into 531 after your main lift, even on deadlift day. These idiots posting here don't understand the importance of wide stance squatting and posterior chain development(from calves to traps). They think squatting is a quad exercise. Hahaha
@AndyHarglesis 430? really? i benched that in high school at 185 pounds. i bench 725 now. DRUG FREE. AND WHO CARES IF THEY JUICE? i mean honestly no one cares. people pay to see the biggest guys lift the biggest weight. it is what it is doc
You know why he doesn't ? Because as I said before THE SUCK IN deep squating big time !!! So that's why THEY CAN NOT SQUAT !! There is only one kind of squat and that is the deep, ass to grass squat !!!
Because he SAYS that wide strength goes to narrow strength? You also have to realize that they would be like doubling their range of motion. He also said that powerlifters are much stronger than olympic weightlifters which is clearly false when weightlifters have casually squatted powerlifting raw records in training.
No matter how much they back and forth, seated on a box, lazy , 1/16th of ass to grass these people "squat" they have no quads development meaning that this IS NOT SQUAT !!! It's some stupid kind of form going back and forth thing, God knows what......... Hey Louie trying to front squat the same thing without this stupid harness and knee wraps man !! Meaning squat like a man !!! Without gizmos and equipment !!! RAW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@motoguy05 They can't go all the way down because the have no power into their quads !!! They pretend to squat they are not really squatting because the REAL squat is the Olympic style squat !!!
Are you still at it Nippon1971? Jesus christ, you spend way too much time on the internet to be good at squatting. Go fuck off and save what little credibility you have.
Maybe front squat I do squat more than Louie actually and I mean without all the roids he'd been using and the and squat astronaut suits he also uses. And you don't have to go to competition to kick someone's ass in lifting !! You can do it anytime any place.......Besides I'm not the one (like he is) saying: " I have the best training system and things like this" If he's so FUCKING good in lifting training systems why doesn't he prepares his lifters for the Olypmic lifting ?
So you mean to tell me that these people can olympic squat that weight ??? I seriously doubt that !!!! On the other hand I know olympic lifters that can half squat (powerlifting silly style squat) nearly 1,5 times their full squat WITHOUT gizmos and triple squat suit and knee wraps......How knows what is next.....maybe a lifting crane !!!! Hahaha !!!
Unless he shows us an Olympic style REAL MEN squat and not some half bending, leaning forward with split stance like he's going to do gymnastics (hahahaha !!) squat, then this stupidity you call squat is a FALSE thing that will make you believe that you really squat big weights....Like Eliot Hulse said: "If you can't squat low, you ain't worth SHIT" !!
Louie Simmons, and Westside Barbell is the best gym in the world for strength, and conditioning. This video certainly proves that!
Awesome video guys! Stay strong! Salute you from Chicago.
i missed your videos ...thanks for your effort!
Westside Barbell Rules!
I love how a bunch of older men squatting heavy ass weight are listening to dip set at one point in their workout. Fucking love WSB
Love it. I always get weird looks when I bring my chains, bands, box into the gym for squat day haha.
Show us one video of a an olympic weightlifter doing a 993 pound back squat and causally at that.
Tony B was just insanely strong, wow!
I've actually incorporated these into my squat days, performing them after my Wendler cycle. 5 x 10 at half my max squat weight. I realize that some folks do these with higher weight/lower rep schemes, but I like them as a change of pace after "traditional" squats. I believe they're helping with explosiveness on my back squat.
Also, I've been recommending these at a lighter weight for folks suffering from the "navicular drop," as box squats encourage better form.
Thoughts, opinions?
Awesome video.
If you want to see their quad development all you have to do is...look at their quads. Further, this is not bodybuilding. They are not judged by the size of their muscles but by the amount of weight they move. If you don't like geared lifting, that is fine, but don't troll on videos of geared lifting.
that baldheaded shirtless dude is THE premier strength training coach. He produces more 1000lb squatters than any where else in the world
Louie's the greatest.
Impressive... Just watching that gives me a groin pull. I don't know how you guys do it.
i would be interesed to see what these guys verical jump and 40 yard dash would be like.
Squatting wide down to a box builds flexibility. It only took me 3 weeks to get used to it.
Hey, if this is the real AJ Roberts, then get some more footage of Louie lifting. It's awesome to see somebody at his age kicking with heavy weights. Also, the rest of you are looking strong. I've heard AJ that you're looking at an 1050 squat? Is this true? Good luck.
louie looks like some crazy old sailor that used to wrestle whales for a living, he seems pretty awesome.
Impressive stuff. I recently began doing box squats. They're quite taxing.
I don't even like multiply lifting but Westside is undeniably badass.
watching this with a bulging disc is so painful.....
i hope i'll be able to squat again some day
@CommunityCircus its just a different variation of the squat. it helps build explosive strength and allows you to go heavier.
AJ, doing a box squat with chains in a ME movement like this, do you use tight briefs like predators or single ply loose briefs?
@orkan84 Louie Simmons? The founder of Westside Barbell.
I really don't get some people on here. These guys HAVE quad development, you can see it. Not everyone is so vain and insecure, they have to get big n' pretty and shredded, like some emaciated freak. Don't get me wrong--I train for mass and physique. But I want to be just as strong as these guys as well, and I use very wide-stance squats, just w/ less intensity, and shorter rest periods--no pretty-boy training for me, thank you.. Nothing but respect for Louie Simmons and his guys.
Front Squats with Canvas Suit Bottoms. Who would have thought.
Damn how can they keep such a wide stance without bending in at the knees? Hip flexibility must be wicked!
@Aaron Farsi, you even lift bro?
No this is actually lighter on the knees believe it or not.. but a wider stance will mess up your hips;)
I can now conclude, that louies name should be archy the bear. Since he always shouts arch :p
@Satisfocalypse
yeah you're talking about louie simmons lol
@orkan84 you are joking right, do you know who that is..
I tore three pairs of shorts while doing squats today!
10mm or 13mm inzer belt?
i wish my gym was like this. me and one other guy are like the hard lifters. if you had heavy music and yelling they would call a priest in.
because he trains power lifters! thats different then olympic lifting
dont watch westside if u dont like it. respect do what u like .
@Nippon1971 how about you post some vids of your amazing squats. Internet talk is cheap.
@PastorelloPowerTeam7 part of the goal of that DVD was to demonstrate that because of the american culture and the way sports have developed, top athletes are almost all taking some form of drug enhancement, like it or not its what is done to provide the best entertainment, most people just dont realise. looks like you missed the point of the documentary completely.
@CommunityCircus
they're working on pure power rather than attempting 1 rep max squats.
dipset playing in the background
What does arch mean?
+Sean Cavey arching your lower back probably
is it me or does it sound like there's a seagull in the background
I only wish I'd found proper, FREE squat and box squat technique years earlier. I'd been doing all of my squats on a Smith, perhaps at parallel depth. Bad and bad. The Smith limits you, and while I still drove up through my heels, it isn't the best thing for your knees. Ditto for parallel depth. It's OK, but if you can break it, you give your knees a rest, contrary to the popular belief that you don't. Plus, you have all the muscle recruitment to bring up the heavier load.
they seem to have big trouble keeping the arch
such disrespect. should be ashamed of yourselves. it may not look right to the average eye, but the man knows what he's doing
@AndyHarglesis me? haha. hey doc im not the one goin off on a rant like a highschool drama queen about someones lifestyle ;)
Amazon.com or westsidebarbell
com I do zercher squats the traditional method in the crooks of my arms, but many cant deal with the pain.
Are all of them wearing suits? just curious
I do wide stance way more than I do narrow stance, but when I do narrow stance I find it very easy. Sumo stance deads and box squats are the bread and butter of any great training routine. I hate stupid "body builders" and planet fitness freaks who dont know how to lift properly coming on here and bashing the rite way. I love showing up chicken legged roidos at my home GYM.
These are box squats. Try doing them.
Oh yeah, Westside is the hardest of hardcore gyms in the world.
one of those guys has shoulder pads on....
oh ok. if you squat more than him that would mean you have broken a number of records. im sure you have also trained some of the strongest people in the world too right?
Uh, 1 and a half meters is almost 5 feet tall. I find that mildly impossible that the box is 5 feet tall xD
@waterse metoo, i plan on it actually
yes ok.......
They're legs are at such a wide fucking stance I am afraid they might accedently pull of a split
louie's lookin rough
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WOW U WANT A MEDAL
could that wider stance mess up your knees?
Well I'm replying to responses man....Sorry to mess you up.....
@flowride68 Yeah man! Anyone who squats real weight and wants to get stronger should be doing box squats more often than regular squats. It greatly improves speed and power coming out of the hole. All bottom work is necessary. You can easily incorporate these into 531 after your main lift, even on deadlift day. These idiots posting here don't understand the importance of wide stance squatting and posterior chain development(from calves to traps). They think squatting is a quad exercise. Hahaha
@AndyHarglesis 430? really? i benched that in high school at 185 pounds. i bench 725 now. DRUG FREE. AND WHO CARES IF THEY JUICE? i mean honestly no one cares. people pay to see the biggest guys lift the biggest weight. it is what it is doc
Wow If I squat that wide I would split in half lol but thats just me.
loll
He'd outlift you...
he can't front squat because this is NOT a squat !! So, NO bitch !! He can't squat more than me.......
I can't even fathom how fucking retarded this comment is
...thats alot of weight
here.. watch a real squat w/ big weight and u can probably see the difference if u have eyes.. type in no no no squat
anyone who shit talks this video should have to post a video of them squatting so everyone can laugh and how pathetic they are
As Elliot Hulse says: "If you can not squat LOW you ain't worth SHIT" !!
try doing some real squats with half that weight..
You know why he doesn't ? Because as I said before THE SUCK IN deep squating big time !!! So that's why THEY CAN NOT SQUAT !! There is only one kind of squat and that is the deep, ass to grass squat !!!
@AndyHarglesis hahaha well someone fixed them up a big gallon of haterade haha. well its just sad thats all you have to live by.
Because he SAYS that wide strength goes to narrow strength? You also have to realize that they would be like doubling their range of motion. He also said that powerlifters are much stronger than olympic weightlifters which is clearly false when weightlifters have casually squatted powerlifting raw records in training.
all on roids!...seen it in a documentary
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So if it's the same quads activation, why olympic lifters have double the quads size of a powerlifter ????
Wide squats are for hips and posterior chain. Minimum quads. The strongest joint in the body is the hips so if you want a big squat build strong hips.
he probably front squats more than you squat bitch
LOL.. You sir, are a moron.
Try saying something with half the bullshit.
not a single proper squat was done that day
steroid users
Sterrrrrrrrroiiiiiiiids.... :)
there is a reason they do it that way u idiot, maybe you should try when u take a shit, oh ya i forgot, u shit in your pants
No matter how much they back and forth, seated on a box, lazy , 1/16th of ass to grass these people "squat" they have no quads development meaning that this IS NOT SQUAT !!! It's some stupid kind of form going back and forth thing, God knows what.........
Hey Louie trying to front squat the same thing without this stupid harness and knee wraps man !! Meaning squat like a man !!! Without gizmos and equipment !!!
RAW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@motoguy05 They can't go all the way down because the have no power into their quads !!! They pretend to squat they are not really squatting because the REAL squat is the Olympic style squat !!!
try learning something ouot training you idiot, those are box squats.....
Are you still at it Nippon1971? Jesus christ, you spend way too much time on the internet to be good at squatting. Go fuck off and save what little credibility you have.
Maybe front squat I do squat more than Louie actually and I mean without all the roids he'd been using and the and squat astronaut suits he also uses. And you don't have to go to competition to kick someone's ass in lifting !! You can do it anytime any place.......Besides I'm not the one (like he is) saying: " I have the best training system and things like this" If he's so FUCKING good in lifting training systems why doesn't he prepares his lifters for the Olypmic lifting ?
So you mean to tell me that these people can olympic squat that weight ??? I seriously doubt that !!!! On the other hand I know olympic lifters that can half squat (powerlifting silly style squat) nearly 1,5 times their full squat WITHOUT gizmos and triple squat suit and knee wraps......How knows what is next.....maybe a lifting crane !!!! Hahaha !!!
Unless he shows us an Olympic style REAL MEN squat and not some half bending, leaning forward with split stance like he's going to do gymnastics (hahahaha !!) squat, then this stupidity you call squat is a FALSE thing that will make you believe that you really squat big weights....Like Eliot Hulse said: "If you can't squat low, you ain't worth SHIT" !!