How to make wooden ocarina, with hand tools

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  • Опубликовано: 30 авг 2017
  • My take on making ocarina. Nice little project, that can be done with just a couple of hand tools.
    The wood I am using is seasoned piece of cherry.
    TUNING: first you get your first tone, without any holes made yet. You than find the position for fingerholes you find comfortable. You start by drilling tiny hole, which you than widen with knife and chisel. Continue to make the fingerhole bigger until you get the tone you want (bigger hole = higher pitch). Than you repeat for the second hole, third one...
    I think once you get the air pressure right, it is very easy to play instrument ( I never played one before). This one has very nice, deep voice, resembling the voice of american native flute
    Music - Faring (from Gothic , by Kai Rosenkranz)
    The outro music is my own recording of this actual ocarina

Комментарии • 211

  • @nullskull-everything5495
    @nullskull-everything5495 3 года назад +19

    Finally a vid that’s not just a loz toy review or something

  • @adrienart7616
    @adrienart7616 4 месяца назад +4

    An authentic work of art

  • @grimecrime4538
    @grimecrime4538 6 лет назад +50

    this reminds me of Legend of Zelda. I'm missed it so much

  • @direbugz8163
    @direbugz8163 4 года назад +50

    This is one of the coolest goddamn woodworking projects I've seen! I do some traditional woodworking and I think I found something unique to try, even though mine might turn out rather shitty haha! Thanks for the video!

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  4 года назад +4

      Hi, glad you like it. To be honest, my first few ocarinas were quite shitty as well haha, just give it a try, your second/third ocarina will be much better and it won´t take you nearly as much time as making the first one. Good luck!

    • @cecillewolters1995
      @cecillewolters1995 7 месяцев назад

      How did the project go?

  • @Mangoswirl01
    @Mangoswirl01 18 часов назад

    I'm definitely making one of these tommorrow!

  • @flapyninja5907
    @flapyninja5907 3 года назад +8

    I love the craftsman ship put into each and every project you make even to this day

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Mr. Flapy Ninja, I try to do my best!

  • @thecampercook
    @thecampercook 6 лет назад +7

    Highly impressed. That's a lot of love and dedication right there.

  • @vanillaproductions8596
    @vanillaproductions8596 4 месяца назад +1

    I’m sooooo gonna make this with my dad

  • @MakerCuisine
    @MakerCuisine 4 года назад +6

    Great build, i love the simplicity of it and how you made it using hand tools. Incredible technique and result!

  • @theoriginalmakaaka101
    @theoriginalmakaaka101 4 года назад +74

    Finally a Manly Ocarina tutorial. Skyrim will be proud.

    • @flolorm2349
      @flolorm2349 3 года назад +5

      @@Nicky_Biggz chill bruh

    • @bones3740
      @bones3740 3 года назад +1

      @@Nicky_Biggz Skyrim has flute

    • @audreynogales
      @audreynogales 3 года назад +4

      @@Nicky_Biggz the ocarina and its ancestors have existed since the times of the Incas and Mayans as vessel flutes. It is not "from" Zelda.

    • @random-kun
      @random-kun 3 года назад +3

      YOU UNCULTURED MAN! LINK FOUND YOUR SIN UNFORGIVABLE!

    • @SumskiPero
      @SumskiPero 3 года назад

      Lol

  • @JustNatax3
    @JustNatax3 5 лет назад +2

    Very nice! And pretty amazing deep sounding. Loved it

  • @nemo9171
    @nemo9171 4 года назад +4

    Waouh ! What a wonderful work ! Magnificient, artistic and precious one. Many many thanks ! We have to maintain our traditions of working and doing !

  • @williammatneyii3218
    @williammatneyii3218 6 лет назад

    Sounds awesome, looks awesome.

  • @kiko7247
    @kiko7247 3 года назад +3

    The tone is insane! You did a great job! Love the ending

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  3 года назад

      Thank you Kiko, glad you like it!

  • @user-mu3li4ec7g
    @user-mu3li4ec7g 5 лет назад

    I love how it sound!!!

  • @nathanramirez4918
    @nathanramirez4918 6 лет назад +1

    amazing craftsmanship!

  • @JJChWorkshop
    @JJChWorkshop  6 лет назад +30

    Guys hope you like the video! I am starting my own facebook page dedicated to traditional musical instruments. Checking out the page would be higly apprecieted, also in case you have any questions about my instruments or you want to buy one, contact me there!
    facebook.com/VoxArborisHome

  • @carobtreepod-vp8pw
    @carobtreepod-vp8pw Год назад

    I love your energy and you create this beautiful instrument. Thank you

  • @jehriko7525
    @jehriko7525 4 года назад +1

    this is, this is insane i love it!!

  • @Achira
    @Achira 5 лет назад +1

    This is awesome bro great job!

  • @ceejayrichards9840
    @ceejayrichards9840 4 года назад

    I've GOT to try this out!

  • @inkybinkyschpinky
    @inkybinkyschpinky 6 лет назад

    good job. sounds awesome

  • @Elishea36
    @Elishea36 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this awesome video. I love your work.

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  3 года назад

      Thanks Elishea, glad you like it

  • @Karaspis
    @Karaspis 6 лет назад +1

    Очень круто!!! So cool, amazing!!!

  • @sushilmediahub
    @sushilmediahub 5 лет назад +2

    Good day, Excellent efforts, you sure know how to work around with wood. The Finished Ocarina is simply Awesome. Thanks again for uploading the video. Will surely to try to build a Wooden Ocarina using your video as a reference.
    Regards, Sushil Adhikari.

  • @2ndborn283
    @2ndborn283 6 лет назад +12

    very cool I need one......ahh

  • @Caffeine.And.Carvings
    @Caffeine.And.Carvings 6 лет назад +16

    This thing sounds by lengths better than any of the stuff that was produced by clay artists fiddling around with it here on RUclips. And just with hand tools. Very impressive. I might give that a ago, even though I don't have the chisel for hollowing out stuff :)

    • @HampusBerglund
      @HampusBerglund 6 лет назад

      Toffsen100 r

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  6 лет назад +3

      Thanks, wood as a material simply has more character than any clay/plastic

  • @realpoopoo
    @realpoopoo 4 года назад

    Absolutely gorgeous

  • @solarcanum
    @solarcanum 5 лет назад

    Nice sound! I love it! Thank you!!!!

  • @spuneet156
    @spuneet156 4 года назад

    Sir, it's damn new for me in both ways. Thanks

  • @gautomdutta2384
    @gautomdutta2384 4 года назад

    I love ur work sir

  • @lemonadepie9631
    @lemonadepie9631 6 лет назад

    wow nice job!

  • @bearshield7138
    @bearshield7138 Год назад

    thank you
    I will have to make a spoon knife or spoon gouge first, but I need to try this.

  • @donstoob
    @donstoob 28 дней назад

    excellent!

  • @adamdiaz5560
    @adamdiaz5560 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing

  • @3nertia
    @3nertia 3 года назад +1

    Awesome! Replete, even with tuning information; thank you!

  • @65616larry
    @65616larry 6 лет назад

    Huge thumbs up

  • @andreahofhammer7250
    @andreahofhammer7250 5 лет назад

    Voll schön danke😘

  • @afifzahiruddinrohaizan52
    @afifzahiruddinrohaizan52 4 года назад +17

    I have a few questions:
    Can you list down the tools you use for this project so that I can make one as well?
    How do you make the notes and can you change to a different tone as well?
    And finally, how do you attach the two halves together?
    Please reply the answers when you read this. Thank you.

    • @dmsarentworking2458
      @dmsarentworking2458 2 года назад

      im not sure but it was most likely attached together with glue

  • @actimawu
    @actimawu 6 лет назад

    Good job.

  • @efrenkov
    @efrenkov 7 лет назад +1

    magno,nice great

  • @Peanuuut3
    @Peanuuut3 6 лет назад

    Beautiful

  • @DerperDaDerpa
    @DerperDaDerpa 5 лет назад +1

    So cool, just about to finish the voicing on an apple wood burl. Hope it turns out okay fingers crossed

  • @justaperson4656
    @justaperson4656 Год назад

    Planning on making some pcb out of my thyme plant, me and my neohew thought it'd be fun to make an ocarina of thyme

  • @invisiblewings12
    @invisiblewings12 Год назад

    Loveeee it

  • @daxter69420
    @daxter69420 4 года назад +1

    This is like unintentional asmr

  • @learningindian4825
    @learningindian4825 2 года назад

    Best and shortest

  • @LIV_ingstone
    @LIV_ingstone Год назад

    Im gonna do this😊

  • @backyard.craftsman
    @backyard.craftsman 3 года назад +1

    beautiful

  • @agoogleuser3787
    @agoogleuser3787 Год назад

    Like the video!!

  • @bearshield7138
    @bearshield7138 Год назад

    this was wonderful

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  Год назад

      Thanks!

    • @bearshield7138
      @bearshield7138 Год назад

      @@JJChWorkshop How thick should the walls be?

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  Год назад

      @@bearshield7138 It doesn´t matter that much, unless you go too extreme (less than 5mm or more than 2cm).

  • @ernestozerocool259
    @ernestozerocool259 3 месяца назад

    que buen sonido lograste

  • @nullus000
    @nullus000 Месяц назад

    É um timbre bem único.

  • @badcookies7030
    @badcookies7030 9 месяцев назад

    Dedication :)

  • @NGinka
    @NGinka 6 лет назад

    Lol, Gothic 3, nice!

  • @jpmsemlimites243
    @jpmsemlimites243 3 года назад

    tabdiferente do meu livro

  • @natelickers4046
    @natelickers4046 5 лет назад

    was wondering how long did it take , amazing

  • @thegamerguy9639
    @thegamerguy9639 4 года назад +1

    Can you make a 12 hole ocarina out of wood too? And the measurements?

  • @seesee44rules
    @seesee44rules 4 года назад

    does anyone have any suggestions on where to put my soundhole? i tried at the very top of the chamber, just below the windway and it doesnt make any noise

  • @anjanikumarguptaakg
    @anjanikumarguptaakg 3 года назад

    nice

  • @jeffreycunningtown5730
    @jeffreycunningtown5730 3 года назад +24

    Woodglut scripts contain most of the woodworking plans you can find.

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  3 года назад +2

      Hell yeah MR RUclipsBot, good for you

    • @jeffreycunningtown5730
      @jeffreycunningtown5730 3 года назад

      @@JJChWorkshop What???

    • @agoogleuser3787
      @agoogleuser3787 Год назад

      Yeah for $70 or $80 just to look. If you were really intent on being helpful, you post it for us.

  • @kailipatel4679
    @kailipatel4679 5 лет назад

    Hi.I enjoyed watching your video of carving ocarina? I have just joined woodcarving classes I am interested to carve ocarina.Is it possible to get a templets for ocarina?

  • @agunemnon
    @agunemnon 2 месяца назад +1

    Super work with simple tools, and I love the tone you achieved! My wooden ocarinas only play for a few minutes before the "labium" (wedge that splits the air) gets saturated and loses its sharpness. Does Cherry wood somehow prevent this? I'm going to try inlaying a veneer of antler in the latest one when I get the enthusiasm back.

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks, using hardwood like cherry definetly helps, you can also saturete the Wood with oil ( i use lineseed oil). You can even submerge the whole ocarina in oil overnight, And than let the instrument dry over few days. This Will make the labium very durable.

  • @rafael7867
    @rafael7867 5 лет назад

    Hi man, I'm a college student and I need to make an instrument. Could you give me some advice on other woods to make an ocarina? Good job man!

  • @ducktape8133
    @ducktape8133 6 лет назад +1

    What are the dimensions of the ocarina and can I make it out of any type of wood

  • @Amber-lr6vn
    @Amber-lr6vn 6 лет назад +1

    Could you please point me in the direction of where to purchase a set of hand tools needed to try this? I have little to no experience, and I figure there is some sort of hand tool kit I can buy to get started. I am very handy with my hands and prefer no power tools. Just looking for somewhere to get a set of woodworking tools to begin with.

  • @thesovietsage6688
    @thesovietsage6688 6 лет назад +33

    sounds Magnificent, but i have none of those tool's.
    is there a place i can look for 1 that sounds like that ?...
    or maybe an Amazon link someone could provide ?.

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  6 лет назад +12

      Thanks and hi!, If you don´t feel like making one youself you can get smaller ones on both ebay/amazon. But in case you want one with deep tone like this one has you shall have to contact some private maker.
      Or you can contact me here fletnarstviujilmu(AT)seznam.cz
      I make irish flutes (you can visit my website here www.fletnarstviujilmu.unas.cz/f_irske.php , but it has czech version only). Occasionally I make other instruments as well. So if you are interested feel free to write me an e-mail and I can make you one similiar to the ocarina I play in the video. Cheers

    • @samwurtz3439
      @samwurtz3439 6 лет назад +3

      all of the ocarinas i have found that sound like that cost a lot, so you are better off just making your own

    • @ramonjardim6660
      @ramonjardim6660 6 лет назад

      JJ Ch Do you send to other country?

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  6 лет назад +1

      EU is no problem, if you are not from EU I would have to check shipping rules, so it depends where are you from.

    • @behindtheglamour
      @behindtheglamour 5 лет назад

      @@JJChWorkshop How about to the US to make and ship one?

  • @jade_capricorn
    @jade_capricorn 4 года назад

    Sorry to bother you but what are the tools you used in this video and where can I find them? Very new to woodworking but I'd like to start making more ocarinas of different kinds.

  • @misstinwhistle1
    @misstinwhistle1 6 лет назад +1

    Hand tools plus a work bench, clamp, specialised tools..Good project though, very artistic as well.

  • @user-dc4qu1zi4c
    @user-dc4qu1zi4c 4 года назад +1

    What playing in video?

  • @thesuperzfamilyvlog6607
    @thesuperzfamilyvlog6607 6 лет назад

    Neat

  • @stefan4765
    @stefan4765 4 года назад

    What should I do if no sound is produced?

  • @littleleaf8541
    @littleleaf8541 2 месяца назад

    What did you use to glue it together? I’m always looking for a traditional way to glue wood, and idk what to use for flutes. Love your tutorial btw!
    edit:
    Also, do you apply oil inside the flute?

  • @gergelygrubits4948
    @gergelygrubits4948 6 лет назад +1

    Cover music is the Cape Town from Gothic 3. :D

  • @kevunderwood5976
    @kevunderwood5976 3 года назад

    Great work. Quick question I did mine exactly how you did yours even getting the same tone from the first blow. But once I glued it together and drilled the finger holes it lost all sound, where did I go wrong?

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  3 года назад

      Hi there, thanks, thats really strange, never happened to me before. Maybe check if there is no debris inside the ocarina, especially, that there is enoug hspace in the windway.
      If you can make it work, I would appreciete if you could share what was wrong, so others can see as well.

  • @giovannicarbinatti8283
    @giovannicarbinatti8283 6 лет назад +1

    Can i make a 12 holes ocarina using this process? Amazing video!

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  6 лет назад +1

      Sure you can, just remember that Iam using pentatonic scale (less tones = bigger holes). Drill your holes very small and be careful when you make them larger to avoid making them too big. Ocarina would be than very difficult to tune. Thanks!

  • @Caffeine.And.Carvings
    @Caffeine.And.Carvings 6 лет назад

    How did you come up with what size the inner chamber needs to be? Just guessing work of do you maybe have some measurements for that ? Also: would softer wood like cedar work here ? I hate the smell of cherry :)

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  6 лет назад +3

      Hi, about the chamber size, I just made the ocarina of the shape and size I wanted than i tried blowing the first tone (just holding the halves together, not using glue yet). I got my first tone and than i started slowly expanding the chamber more, checking the tone as i progressed. When you expand the chamber, the tone gets deeper and once you reach the tone you like you just glue the halves together and you are ready to drill finger holes.
      Unfortunetly i don´t use cedar, it doesn´t grow in my country. So I dont´t know much about it. But incase you don´t like cherry i can recommend you applewood, maple, beech or hornbeam. Good luck

  • @vexint
    @vexint 6 лет назад +3

    am trying to carve one myself and am not getting any sound out of mine how could i get it to make sound?

    • @vexint
      @vexint 6 лет назад

      i did cut in the wind hole/ sound hole

    • @reverendglitch
      @reverendglitch 6 лет назад +1

      It could be the placement of the sound hole, it should come just before the end of the inner wall, so that when don't you can just see a small part of the inner wall below the sound hole

  • @sammiebowman9010
    @sammiebowman9010 6 лет назад

    What tools did you use? I'm interested in making an ocarina from wood, but I don't know what any the tools you used are.

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  6 лет назад

      Hi, well i tried keeping it simple so not much really. I used just a hatchet, spoon knife, rip saw, knife, few round chisels and files for making the holes. Than some sandpaper to finish the surface. Thats about it

  • @user-tq7oj5gd3b
    @user-tq7oj5gd3b 3 года назад

    👍Отлично.Но лучше склеится если из двух расколотых половинок сделать.

  • @Khantia
    @Khantia 3 месяца назад

    Woah - it was carved by 3:30 and it took my 3d printer 4 hours to make one xP

  • @-gg5879
    @-gg5879 5 лет назад

    Top

  • @amiEliyahu
    @amiEliyahu 5 лет назад

    Can I ask, why did you use cherry tree? Is there any differences between this kind of wood and others? What is your recommendation?
    Thanks

    • @micah2455
      @micah2455 2 года назад +1

      Cherry is hard and dense, good for builds you want to last a while

  • @olivejuice9515
    @olivejuice9515 3 года назад

    is there anything i can use instead of an axe?

  • @MidnightGeekSS
    @MidnightGeekSS 3 года назад

    Wow the sound so full of texture and warm... do you sell these? Or just make them for fun?

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  3 года назад +1

      Hi, thanks, I make musical instruments mostly for fun, but occasionally I also sell some of them, you can check my page
      facebook.com/VoxArborisHome

    • @MidnightGeekSS
      @MidnightGeekSS 3 года назад

      @@JJChWorkshop thank you!

  • @boyminecraft63
    @boyminecraft63 4 года назад

    Hi, i Try to make a ocarina but i don't understand how the windway is make, i try different method but no one works. You maybe can help me

  • @cosimino1277
    @cosimino1277 4 года назад +1

    Sorry but the ocarina hasn't 12 hole?

  • @feliciabowman4739
    @feliciabowman4739 5 лет назад

    My great grandfather used to make beautiful wooden sculptures with just a knife and sandpaper. He was native American. I don't know if he ever did anything like this.

    • @fixedevening4623
      @fixedevening4623 5 лет назад

      I wish I had as much craftmanship as your grandfather

    • @feliciabowman4739
      @feliciabowman4739 5 лет назад

      @@fixedevening4623 yeah me too. He used to carve his own walking sticks and canes. He would put animals in them, mostly wolves, and sell some of them. He also used to make small wooden puzzles. The ones with the small metal ring that you had to get off and put back on, or a bunch of pieces that, if put together correctly, would make a small pyramid.

    • @fixedevening4623
      @fixedevening4623 5 лет назад

      @@feliciabowman4739 That..... is actually pretty cool

    • @feliciabowman4739
      @feliciabowman4739 5 лет назад

      @@fixedevening4623 yeah. I really miss him. He was awesome.

    • @fixedevening4623
      @fixedevening4623 5 лет назад

      We all miss our family or friends from time to time, it may be because they live somewhere else or maybe it is because they passed on. They are with us in memory and in our hearts.

  • @gypseali
    @gypseali 4 года назад

    What did you exactly use to join the 2 parts of the ocarina?

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  4 года назад +2

      Hi, it was a while ago, I am not sure to be honest. But once both parts are shaped, you can use any water based adhesive.
      Preferably something with weaker bond, in case you need to open the ocarina for some adjustments.

  • @Hendrik.brouwer
    @Hendrik.brouwer 4 года назад

    You started with two blocks with the same image on them an then had two mirrorred cut pieces... how'd you do that?

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  4 года назад

      If I remeber correctly, I just hollowed one from the top and the other one from the bottom :)

  • @soniquetemusic
    @soniquetemusic 9 месяцев назад

    Great demonstration :), may I ask what tool you used to make the round holes? Thanks!

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, I used small round chisels to start the holes and I expand them as needed with thin blade knife.

    • @soniquetemusic
      @soniquetemusic 9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for responding so quickly, that's very useful @@JJChWorkshop

  • @FilmerNation22
    @FilmerNation22 6 лет назад +1

    Any way I can get an image of the outline you used to make yours? School project coming up and I'd really like to impress some people!

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  6 лет назад

      Hi mate, I´d love to help, but right now i have no acces to the plans I used, if you can wait till friday, provide your mail and I send you what I have, cheers

    • @FilmerNation22
      @FilmerNation22 6 лет назад

      +JJ Ch great that's totally fine, lll send you an email under the subject "plans" and you can reply whenever you can

    • @1snuffle0
      @1snuffle0 6 лет назад

      Hey Could I have the template too please? :)

  • @FriskTheFallen
    @FriskTheFallen 3 года назад +1

    could I use Maple instead of cherry, no lumber store here has it in stock and i wasn't hoping to wait 2 weeks for them to deliver a board?

  • @banannamein9353
    @banannamein9353 3 года назад

    this is great but can you make it higher pitched?

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  3 года назад

      Well, sure all you have to do is make the ocarina smaller

  • @Yoda-vt2yz
    @Yoda-vt2yz 3 года назад +1

    Im trying to make one and had just cut out the wind tunnel. When I blow into the wind tunnel I get no sound please help, Im having a panic attack

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  3 года назад +1

      No need for panic attack mate :)
      Try to watch my How to make wooden tin whistle/low whistle instruction video, I explain how to shape the wind tunnel there in detail (the wind tunnel is pretty much the same for ocarina and low whistle).

  • @dragonvtv861
    @dragonvtv861 6 лет назад

    How long did the entire process take you?

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  6 лет назад

      Something like two days, making a next one is much quicker though

  • @themossycobble1903
    @themossycobble1903 5 лет назад

    Could I use any type of wood or does it have to be a specific type?

    • @Ben-qv9td
      @Ben-qv9td 4 года назад +2

      This is a bit late, but prehaps someone eles may find this useful. The type of wood shouldent change the sound pre say, but a hardwood may be easer to work with in this way.

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  4 года назад

      Late as well, but you are right! Hardwoods are going to produce better sound. Different hardwoods are going to make slightly different sounding instruments, but that really comes to personal preference.

  • @earthypheonix
    @earthypheonix 3 года назад +1

    If you were to paint it would it affect the sound or anything

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  3 года назад +1

      If you keep the edge on the blowing hole sharp, you are good to go even with paint.

    • @earthypheonix
      @earthypheonix 3 года назад

      @@JJChWorkshop thank you

  • @alenalen8888
    @alenalen8888 6 лет назад +9

    Can you make wooden cannon ?

  • @micahtritscher951
    @micahtritscher951 5 лет назад

    Hey mate. What is this music? It sounds like a modified version of Knights of Honour music. It must be, right?

    • @JJChWorkshop
      @JJChWorkshop  5 лет назад

      Hi there, the music is just my improvisation. But in fact, I played Knights of Honour as a kid, so there might by some similiarity, interesting point actually! :D

    • @micahtritscher951
      @micahtritscher951 5 лет назад

      @@JJChWorkshop Wow that is awesome! It sounds great! U wouldn't happen to have tabs or anything for it would u? 😂

    • @micahtritscher951
      @micahtritscher951 5 лет назад

      @@JJChWorkshop actually, just the basic key, barchords etc and chords and I could work it out myself... Haha.