Why primers don't go off sometimes

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
  • Primer failure isn't always what you think it is.
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  • @georgiaboy4410
    @georgiaboy4410 11 месяцев назад

    Good catch on the cause of primer fail and restore on that rest. That’s a dandy little arbor press setup too👍🏻

  • @cw2a
    @cw2a 11 месяцев назад +1

    Afternoon Mustang Man! ❤
    That aughta work...

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад +1

      It's been a while. I blame the groups on global warming.

  • @rbm6184
    @rbm6184 11 месяцев назад

    Yeah it helps if the cases are the right size to begin with. Shame on Nosler. They usually are good quality but it can happen to any brand. Good to know and thanks for sharing.

  • @stephanfoster5043
    @stephanfoster5043 11 месяцев назад

    Great pick up. Going to start reloading again, good information to have.

  • @RickNethery
    @RickNethery 11 месяцев назад +1

    I actually had a primer go off once in a reloading press. It was with my old Lee Turret press. I was priming with that little rocker you lower the ram onto. It was a loud pop but no injury.
    Scared the heck out of me. 😆

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад +1

      A lot of energy in those things:)

    • @Oldmanwithagoldpan
      @Oldmanwithagoldpan 11 месяцев назад +1

      Had a 209 go off while loading some 12 Guage bird shot one time. Made me jump and made me happy i had my eyes on. Apparently a 7.5 bird shot had fallen into the pocket/station where the primer sits and I didn't see it. I always check that pocket now before dropping a primer in lol.

    • @danv9113
      @danv9113 11 месяцев назад +2

      Over the years I have literally loaded hundreds of thousands of rounds on Dillon presses, never had any go off in the press, and then oddly inside of one month had two go off, each on different presses! And now thankfully have gone several years without it happening again !?!?

  • @robertperkov381
    @robertperkov381 9 месяцев назад

    Makes sense 👍

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket 11 месяцев назад

    Couple tiny pieces of scotch tape on the forward edge of that case shoulder, re-chamber, pull the trigger.
    But yes, one odd-ball slipped through the Nosler brass making machine. Some companies probably employ some sort of laser eye while the brass scoots along to detect any and all defects before hitting final production.

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад

      I would like to tour one of these brass manufacturers. To be able to form within 1 or 2 thous. is pretty amazing. Tools wear and things get dirty. It would be interesting to see how often they stop the run and recalibrate. Thanks for watching Lifted_above.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 11 месяцев назад

      @@ToadleyBrowne I'd like to do the same. I've worked in an engineering department which communicated regularly with quality department, precision measuring instruments etc. I have an idea, but it wasn't in the munitions industry.

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад

      @@exothermal.sprocket Mr. Archimedes I presume:)

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 11 месяцев назад

      @@ToadleyBrowne If only my bosses over the years thought so.

  • @danv9113
    @danv9113 11 месяцев назад +1

    I've had this happen in the past with a match round not going off, sadly I just pulled the round apart and threw it back in, it was one of Jasmine's 243 Lapua, now we'll probably just keep running into that round again😢

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад

      That will slow you down enough to give some average shooters a chance:) How many primers have failed on you over all many years of shooting? I ask because Jim Stekl who was an engineer at Remington and Bench rest shooter said it was extremely rare. Just wondering what your experience has been.

    • @danv9113
      @danv9113 11 месяцев назад

      I've shot primers from all over the planet, Bosnia, Russia, Italy, Argentina, even the US lol.
      The amount of failures is extremely low, like almost never, and the few I've had weren't the same brand. I intentionally used domestic in a big match once... and had a failure 🤦‍♂️

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад

      @@danv9113 Your experience has value for sure and goes with what Stekl said. Both of you have shot a lot. You more than Jim:)

  • @orangetlr
    @orangetlr 11 месяцев назад

    Never had good luck with Nosler. Probably just me, but I generally avoid them.

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад +1

      Going to sort out the best 75. They are as expensive as Lapua but allow for a tad more case capacity. It seems that quality control on everything from bread to toilet paper is lacking:)

  • @RealDeanWinchester
    @RealDeanWinchester 11 месяцев назад +1

    Holy cow! It worked! I have been trying to send you messages via telepathy for weeks now and finally succeeded. Now I'm wondering what you heard, I say insensitive things when I get frustrated, I hope that wasn't it. I think wind flags should be placed every 25 yards across the entire planet.

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад +1

      There is a world out there where intuition and telepathy exist. Sort of like those big headed creatures from the Star Trek episode, "The Menagerie" Your idea about the wind flags is a good one. I think Dollar General is starting to put flags out in front of their stores. That is about every 100 yards over the entire US.

    • @RealDeanWinchester
      @RealDeanWinchester 11 месяцев назад

      @@ToadleyBrowne well, RUclips just deleted another of my cleverly crafted comments 😡

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@RealDeanWinchester It says a lot about a society that tolerates violating someones freedom of speech.

    • @RealDeanWinchester
      @RealDeanWinchester 11 месяцев назад

      @@ToadleyBrowne another friend of mine told me a story about a father and son that had assaulted a rancher in the Texas panhandle sometime in the 1930s a couple different times. The next time they came to visit the rancher their relationship ended. The rancher rode into town to find the sheriff. He found him at the pool hall and explained how his relationship with the father and son ended. Nothing else happened. The end.

    • @RealDeanWinchester
      @RealDeanWinchester 11 месяцев назад

      @@ToadleyBrowne southeast part of ochiltree county.

  • @mckwilly
    @mckwilly 11 месяцев назад

    Had an older gentleman tell me neck tension was critical and his groups, SD and dread all tightened but a great deal when started using lube on the projectile, didn't say what but I thought that made some sense

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад

      Your friend is right about neck tension. He probably was using a graphite moly coating. Thanks mckwilly.

  • @jamespollard1670
    @jamespollard1670 11 месяцев назад

    What do we win if we guess how many dots you put on that thing ?

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад

      A case of primers! Just kidding...

  • @Oldmanwithagoldpan
    @Oldmanwithagoldpan 11 месяцев назад

    So I've noticed that staz tube has changed up the game again... I cannot go full screen on this video.. hopfully this is not something they're doing on gun tubers chans.

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад +1

      Eventually the snake will eat its tail.

  • @globalistwench
    @globalistwench 11 месяцев назад +1

    Genauigkeitssucht

  • @br4713
    @br4713 11 месяцев назад

    Neck sizing for accuracy??? Full length bushing die way better !

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад +1

      I know but this is an experiment:) It is my theory that where people get into trouble neck sizing is that they wait until they get cases hard to close in the gun. The case goes through a few different stages before it gets to that point. My plan is to Fire form case, anneal, neck size once using bushing die with either 1 or 2 thou neck tension. I should be able to find a node seating +or- at or jam within a 10 thou. span. So the plan is fire form, neck size, full size, fire form, neck size. Full length sizing with bushing is getting .285 15 shot groups. I sometimes wonder if Mac Mcmillan full length or neck sized to shoot that little group. Neck sizing can cause concentricity problems. I know you have been down this road before.:) This barrel is a hummer and I am glad it is in 223. Should get some good life out of it. Thank you for watching and your comment br4713! You are very knowledgable about these things.

    • @br4713
      @br4713 11 месяцев назад

      @@ToadleyBrowne The main reason we use full length dies now in benchrest competitions is that neck sizing cause more issues than improvements. First thing is if your case chambers too tight, each time you close the bolt it will tilt the stock on the front bag. This front bag will loose its shape (flat-->round) so the front of your stock will loose its stability. Another reason s that even if you neck size your brass, you'll still have to size the body & shoulder sometimes depending on the powder charge. With full length sizing you can keep the exact same reloading protocol every time. We use good quality full length bushing dies. An excellent book that explains all the aspects of accuracy is "the book of rifle accuracy" by Tony Boyer 👍👍👍

    • @ToadleyBrowne
      @ToadleyBrowne  11 месяцев назад

      @@br4713 Great information. Thank you.