Not in-line with the theme of this video, but a cheaper 150 cc was a great entry point for me as a teen because I could actually afford to buy it, was easy to learn on, and passing the endorsement test was a total breeze. Scooters can be an awesome starter 2 wheeler!
I have had many many bikes. 35 years riding. I recently had a pcx 125 and that was a ripper of a bike, great fun to ride and everywhere was flat out wide open throttle 127kgs. I recently upgraded to a 300 forza, 2019. Best of both worlds, although much heavier and far less manoeuvrable, as I can take it out of town and on freeways comfortably 130/140kmph max speed, but comfortable at legal speeds. Great storage. Suspension and ride quality suffers a bit as she’s only on small wheels but a great great bike. Service once a year /every 12000kms (for me that’s six months or so/as I just can’t stop riding the thing) . Bike previous to this was a 1998 zzr1100. That is an awesome bike, however completely over kill. Never ever utilised more than 20/25% of its capacity. No abs/no storage/no traction control. One rear tire could buy two complete sets on the forza.
After riding super sport motorcycles for 15 years with the constant stress on your wrist and elbows, I have chose to break the cycle with something a little with the same riding dynamics but less stress on the body! Yamaha Tmax 530 is perfect... the up riding position gets the stress off your elbows for a longer and comfortable riding experience with a strong two cylinder 530cc engine. This Maxi Scooter really handles well and I have no issues riding along side of my fellow rider on the larger motorcycles
I have had Burgman 400 and 650"s for many years of trouble free riding. When they come out with one that has cruise control, I will be in the market again. I love my Suzuki Burgman
i have a kawasaki vulcan 800 and a honda pcx125,in 2 seasons i havent touched the motorcycle.the scooter is so much more enjoyable.i would love to upgrade to almost any of them
Thanks for your reply. I'm glad that there are motorcycle riders who are not making their decisions only on the basis of "supposed manliness", but rather convenience. One enjoys a scooter, one rides a scooter! By the way check out my new video about super scooters ruclips.net/video/E7yYBrx2SgU/видео.html
I had had motorcycles all my life till i rented a scooter in Barca. Never looking back. Will sell my Z750 and get a 250-400cc scooter. I realised that with my motorcycle I constantly try to go higher gear to quieten the loud engine in lower gears. On my scooter i enjoy a more laid back riding style, twist and go, quiet, nifty-shifty and practical. Bikes just demand a more aggressive riding style. Scooters are non-pretentious
I agree with you, I had a BMW GS 1200 and now I ride a kymco AK 550. I live in a big metropolis and without question it's much more pleasurable to ride the big scooter around town then the big motorcycle. The AK 550 works fine on the motorways as well, reaching over 180 kpm.
Very informative. I’m seriously considering a Burgman 650. I had a six cylinder Goldwing last but I’m aged 65 and it just got to be too heavy at 950 pounds. Something to zip around on would be nice, even an extended ride should be fine on the 650.
I've had a Burgman 650 since 2006. I highly recommend it. I can go on the interstate without any problems. It has a top speed of 120MPH although I've never had it above 90MPH.
I have owned a few bikes over the years and I have racked up over 200000km on them. I currently have a Kawasaki Voyager 1700 with over 90000kms on the clock. I have a Suzuki Burgman 650 AN Executive scooter with close to 10000kms on the clock. Previously I owned and Yamaha XV1100 on which I clocked up about 100000kms and I also owned for a short time a Piaggio MP3 400. I didn't put many kilometres on that one as I bought it for my wife to learn on and when she didn't I sold it. I feel I have some credentials to talk about both bikes and scooters. In this video you mostly talk about scooters up to about 550cc. I know you say another video will look at the Burgman 650 but I reckon when there is a BMW 600 and 650 as well as the Aprilla 850 referred to by another commenter the 300s and 400s are not what you would call maxi scooters. I know you are looking at bigger than pizza delivery scooters that are still ok for the city commute but will hold their own on the open road but I don't expect to see any Piaggio Vespa GTS on the freeways or highways. For those looking for the 1000cc scooter I think that may be a forlorn hope. In Australia where I live bikes/scooters over 250cc are expensive to register (that is the charges set by the government so you can ride on the roads). The costs include a roadworthy inspection every year (at least in NSW), the registration charge and associated GST and compulsory third party insurance. For example my Suzuki Burgman costs nearly $850 to register each year and my Kawasaki 1700 costs about the same amount - perhaps a little bit more. I have ridden all my bikes on open roads and highways and I can say without a doubt that the Burgman is as good as any sports bike, tourer or cruiser on the open road but the Kawasaki is great for the open road and not much use in stop/start city traffic. At nearly 400kgs wet it is a heavy bike where as the scooter is much lighter and easier to zip around the city. If your main riding is the city, all of the scooters covered here will do the job. If you intend to do some touring and get out on country roads I would suggest nothing under the Gilera 500 - others I don't think will have the power and comfort for a long day's riding. Thanks for posting the video. Enjoy the ride on what ever it is you ride.
Hi Roger, What state in Australia do you register the Burgman? I thought $800 is a bit excessive considering my 650 V-Strom is less than $400 inc. green slip, pink slip and the actual rego...I was considering trading the strom for the 650 Burgman...but if they cost that much to register....might reconsider. Regards Dave (From Sydney NSW)
My Kawasaki Voyager costs $130 to register in NSW + $625 for green slip (QBE)+$23 for Road worthy check. My Suzuki Burgman 650 is kept in Tasmania where they have MAIB (Motor Accident Insurance Board) which provides the CTP insurance as GIO once did in NSW. You are not required to have an annual road worthy inspection but all up to register the Burgman in Tas is about $800. I don't know what it would be in NSW. I am 65 so I think I am in the high risk group even though I have racked up close to 200k/kms and have had no claims either for CTP or comprehensive insurance and I haven't had a traffic infringement in over 10 years. No I'm not a goody two shoes and I did use to commute 200kms/day on my Kawasaki before retiring. Now I am lucky to be a regular weekend warrior.
I have owned both a Yamaha Majesty YP400 and (presently) a Suzuki Burgman Exec. While owning the Majesty I undertook a 640km trip from my place at Plainland (1 hr West of Brisbane, QLD) to a residence at Willawarrin (some 30km NW of Kempsie, NSW) - returning the next day - on the Yamaha Majesty 400. I still maintain that for a trip of that distance, the Majesty was a better choice than the current Burgman Exec would be. Engine size isn't everything - rider comfort counts highly on the longer distances. My fatigue level after a similar journey on the Burgman would exceed such on the Majesty. The rider also remains dryer when riding in wet weather on a Majesty, when compared to a Burgman 650. Where the Burgman scores over the Majesty, however, is that due to its Horse Power reserve I can tow a 1220cm trailer with the Suzuki. In fact, I might be more inclined to choose my Moto Guzzi V9 Bobber, for long trips, - excepting for that trailer towing option with the Burg. Both the Suzuki and the Moto Guzzi V9 make about 54HP.
John Klumpp Hi John thanks for your comments comparing the Suzuki 650 Burgman with the Yamaha YP400. I have no experience with the Yamaha but I can say that I have owned a Yamaha XV1100 Cruiser and it was a very good bike. I think the Japanese all make quality bikes/scooters. I've never towed anything with a bike or a car for that matter. I hope you are enjoying whatever you're riding and getting one the road whenever you can. Again thanks for the interest in my comments.
Though technically it's not a scooter but a dual transmission motorcycle I believe the Honda NM4 rules the road. In automatic mode it operates exactly like a scooter without giving away much of the power and beauty of a motorcycle, in fact it reminds me of the bat bike from Batman. Honda totally outdid themselves with that one, good work guys.
Oh cmon. I have 2 750s, a 1000 and an 1100 motorcycles, a 150cc trailie and I STILL have a super-scooter. It's ridiculously practical, can carry me my wife and a week's shopping, nippy round town and seems to run on petrol vapour. All I ever do is change the oil. No way would I sell it or not have one. Hardly ever use the car now. Sure it's not for long trips cause you get square-arse from the sit-up-and-beg riding position, but around the city it's a star.
The AK550 is the only real option here. Affordable, modern, powerful, light, good brakes. I currently have the Burgman 650 which is better than anything here (powerful / manual & auto gears / electric folding wing mirrors for beating traffic / large storage), but it's damn heavy, the brakes are crap and the wheels are impossible to clean, is looking a bit dated and I need a replacement soon, and perhaps a change as my last 3 bikes have all been Burgmans. Might get that AK.
I bought a new Yamaha Tmax 530 (2017 DX spec) in September 2018, but I have ridden it only 4 times. Once on the way home from the dealer, once the day after, and then only to the dealer and back when I tried to take it back. I advise that before you spend 1.4 million Yen (or equivalent) on this bike, that you insist on a test-ride first. In many respects it is very good: It is smooth; it is quick you ask it to be; it handles very nicely even with a passenger; its low speed handling in traffic and car-parks (parking lots) is easy even with a passenger; its wind protection is quite good. In just two respects, it is very disappointing (to me personally): The fuel economy is only 2/3 as reasonable as my 2013 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom, meaning the Yamaha only gives me 20-21 kilometres / Litre ridden gently; it makes an awful noise in this rev-range 3,700 - 4,800 RPM, which in Japan corresponds to legal cruising speeds of about 30-60 KPH. Cager On Two Wheels (a popular bike reviewer from Portugal who reviews bikes in English, too) says it sounds 'aggressive', but in my (and my wife's) opinion, it is unbearable after about 30 minutes. I am going to try noise-cancelling headphones / ear-plugs and see how that goes. Just a heads-up to give you advanced notice. ridden gently See the videos by Cager On Two Wheels and The Missenden Flyer for detailed reviews of the Yamaha Tmax.
Scooters belong to a type of compact means of transportation and are rarely associated with power and performance. But there is one separate niche of scooters, maxi scooters that provide a level of power and comfort comparable to a motorcycle. Would you ever consider getting one of such rides for yourself?
I own a Jetmax 250 produced by CFMoto. Classified as a motorcycle here in NY (USA) and requiring a motorcycle endorsement. I ride it as much as possible to work or where ever else weather permitting. Considered on the low end of a maxi scoots I can run with the big dogs all day long and have on several motorcycle runs. The wife rides a CFMoto V5 (250 cc) and goes along on some adventures. Happy scootin to all :)
All of them are realy beauties bit i prefere the AK550 by far from the othes and i wiil explain why. My personal point of view is that Kymco is the best value for money In the first place i was a bit suspisious about their price in all models SYM and KYMCO (Comparing always with the relevant cc of YAMAHA ,HONDA or SUZUKI.BMW in tge other hand she is a beauty as well I t's a German made scoooter But ....i don't know they look a kind of conservative. I am not try to be agresive with other fellow scooter riders and this experess my opinion
That's a fair point of view. Any manufacturer that makes scooters or motorcycles with a good package for a reasonable price deserves a lot of sales and respect.
@@automotiveterritory I was told when I bought mine that they can do 80 or 90mph if the situation was right. I've had mine up to 120mph. One of the best scooters made. I would definitely buy another if something happened to mine.
I'm definitely going to wait until the tmac 530 is fifteen years old to import it from Japan to Canada because that's just what the Yamaha scooter I just actually want buy from Japan so badly right now at this moment in time guys
I am 6feet and 250lbs and it seems like the bigger bikes would fit me better even though I really dig the Bergman 400 also and the Yahama xmax Iron max
I love everything 🏍️💨's & 🛵💨's I have the little Honda Grom 2014 all stock with just a slip on and I have a Yamaha Zuma 125CC lightly modded extremely fun both bikes are air-cooled both bikes are 125cc and when we race them they're extremely close
& on top of all that full coverage insurance is like $30 per month & 90 mpg even hauling ass. Top speed 58-65mph everything matters on a 125CC uphill, downhill, wind if you're tucked in or not tucked in along with tires you're using 🙄. But these little bikes can smoke most traffic off the start unless they're really trying to take off, then they will smoke u. Lol but they do pretty good in pretty much any type of city 🚦 they will Cruise right along without being tucked in at 55 mph VERY comfortably, I weight about 180lbs 6' with all my gear on when I'm riding
I actually don't see any manufacturer brave enough to make something like this. Maybe there is some unusual customization show that could pull a project like this off.
I have 155 Yamaha nvx. In the city twist and go is the answer. But on an open road my friends ninja. But really the nvx is more than enough for city commute
I belong to a scooter club but I really prefer to shift myself so I ride a vstar 650 it isn't any faster than a 650 Bergman but the cushy suspension and bigger wheels are more comfortable on pothole side roads
@@automotiveterritory Yes - cargo capacity is a big PLUS factor, on the Bergman. Where I live one can purchase soda cans in 24 can or 30 can cartons. The Bergman can carry a carton of 30 PLUS a carton of 24 (total 54 cans) in its under-seat storage. This storage, which might normally take two helmets (or a helmet and your motorcycle jacket) is included at no extra cost. And there is still a helmet hook which is usable with a little cable loop stored on top of the took-kit - for when stuff stored under the seat excludes your helmet. I fastened a topbox on using holes where the passenger backrest attaches, to take stuff that is overflow from the under-seat area. Most motorcycle sales consider panniers (saddlebags) as an extra-cost option. Ditto, the windscreen. (I once owned a Honda Shadow Bagger, with 'screen - the 'extras' were some $3000+ from my wallet.)
i have a yamaha xmax my only complaint about its is the compartment runs so hot because its close to the engine and i dont know if a thermal cover even exist for it
BMW by far is the coolest looking. I’ve rode motorcycles for a few years now and I kinda want a moped for the fact that I don’t have to change gears lol
No it’s is not. I owned a 2007 burgman exc. and a bmw 650 gt change the weights or the variator and the bmw is way faster. Change the variator your beating a 600 super sport motorcycle. Trust I have done this and I’ve also owned 4 motorcycles including a Kawasaki ninja 1000
i love automatic scooters. had more than 10 of them. piaggio x9 500, 200cc, burgman 400 and 650, yamaha majesty 250, piaggio x8 400, piaggio superhexagon 180cc, honda silverwing 400cc. and now am thinking of the honda silverwing 600. while would really like to have the BMW, gilera, or Tmax, I feel they are way too expensive because basically they will surely get devalued in time.
Sym make some really nice scooters like the sym gti 300i(21.3kw)which has more power than the honda(18.5kw) plus it makes a nice 400 and the 465twin tl (29.5kw)
Maxi scoots are nice, I used to ride a Vespa 300 switched back to a bike A Honda nc750x , I liked the Vespa a lot but it not quite enough for the Wide open highways of Canada, gas tank was to small and with a speed Limit of 110km it was at its limits, I was going to try t max 750 but the bars Hit my knees , I thought about the burgman 650 but the dealer offered A super deal on the Honda. I would have no issues with a twist and go maxi scoot, and next machine May well be one.
Better than motorcycles on less than a 100 km ride, however 25% to 40% overpriced. A 750 Honda motorcycle with dual clutch automatic transmission is $7500 in the USA...
It's hard to choose. Most of them look amazing, the BMW ones look very similar to small cruiser motorcycles. If I were to choose, those are the ones I'd go for. What about you?
I actually made a full video dedicated to about electric scooters some time ago. There aren't many electric maxi scooters but there is a lot of choice among regular sized ones. Would you like me to send you a link to that episode?
@@automotiveterritory normally its voiced.. miles per hour.. NEVER.. mph.. unless it's a robot .. like a GPS.. that says turn right on RTE 75.. instead of route 75..too literal
I mention the speed metrics in my videos on multiple occasions, so would you rather wait for me to tell miles per hour every time than use the contraction?
Top of the line are the Honda Integra 750 S, the X-ADV and the BMW C650 Sport and GT. The Honda Integra has the biggest wheels and is at 100kph in about 5 seconds. It's the fastest of them all and when you put the sidebags and the big topcase on, it's one of the most practical too 👌
Disappointed owner of a two-year-old but virtually unused Tmax 530 DX (bought Sep 2018) wants a QUIET exhaust for it. I hate the noise so much, I have done only 1,000 kilometres / 620 miles in two years. Please help. Must actually BE quiet, and not merely called "silent sports" etc. Thank you.
Yamaha Tmax build in europe now (France) so workmanship is high so the price is high! BMW big price it is on his nature! so Suzuki Burgman all made in Japan it is like made in Germany, pricey but what a hell of a scooter equipment!
OK guys, think of it this way, you buy a basic bike, then you want to turn it into a bagger/dresser, think of the cost for a full fairing, the storage/luggage, it mounts up. A scooter, nee a maxi-scooter already has that in the price and the centre stand isn't a 300$ option, that's if, your model of motorcycle even offers one. {Forgot to ask...Is Vetter still in business? They had some real beautiful full fairings and well thought out hard-bags.}
These maxi scooters are so sexy and masculine. The scooters we have in India all have flat footboards that, in my opinion, is so feminine (which isn't a bad thing; just not meant for men).
32HP engine is NOT powerful, even for a 400. Coupled with that, an insane amount of weight makes the Qooder look like a slug. The AK550 by comparison has 53HP and nearly 100kg lighter. The only good thing about the Qooder is driving in really bad weather. That's the only reason I would look at this "bike". They don't sell it in the UK though it seems.
I have a Suzuki burgman 400 and a burgman 200, both are very comfortable. Next year I plan on getting a used burgman 650 executive. $11,000 US is a bit expensive for a brand new 650 for me
When I get the cash I want to buy myself a brand new Suzuki Burgman 650cc Executive scooter for myself and then modify the stink out of it and then add some NOS
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I'm an avid motorcyclist, but for stop and go traffic and delivery, the scooter is so much better.
That's true. Bigger and more powerful machines need more free space to go about.
I agree I live down the Jersey shore and during the summer the stop and go is too much, I have the Burgman 400 it is a lot easier to ride.
Not in-line with the theme of this video, but a cheaper 150 cc was a great entry point for me as a teen because I could actually afford to buy it, was easy to learn on, and passing the endorsement test was a total breeze. Scooters can be an awesome starter 2 wheeler!
@@automotiveterritory up po
The last one from Switzerland is utter expensive garbage.
I have had many many bikes. 35 years riding. I recently had a pcx 125 and that was a ripper of a bike, great fun to ride and everywhere was flat out wide open throttle 127kgs. I recently upgraded to a 300 forza, 2019. Best of both worlds, although much heavier and far less manoeuvrable, as I can take it out of town and on freeways comfortably 130/140kmph max speed, but comfortable at legal speeds. Great storage. Suspension and ride quality suffers a bit as she’s only on small wheels but a great great bike. Service once a year /every 12000kms (for me that’s six months or so/as I just can’t stop riding the thing) . Bike previous to this was a 1998 zzr1100. That is an awesome bike, however completely over kill. Never ever utilised more than 20/25% of its capacity. No abs/no storage/no traction control. One rear tire could buy two complete sets on the forza.
Glad to hear such positive feedback from a motorcycle rider. Scooter are extremely underrated
After riding super sport motorcycles for 15 years with the constant stress on your wrist and elbows, I have chose to break the cycle with something a little with the same riding dynamics but less stress on the body! Yamaha Tmax 530 is perfect... the up riding position gets the stress off your elbows for a longer and comfortable riding experience with a strong two cylinder 530cc engine. This Maxi Scooter really handles well and I have no issues riding along side of my fellow rider on the larger motorcycles
It's great to hear that you've found the transport that suits your current needs well.
I have had Burgman 400 and 650"s for many years of trouble free riding. When they come out with one that has cruise control, I will be in the market again. I love my Suzuki Burgman
Glad you hear that you enjoy your scooters. Hope they serve you well for many more years.
i have a kawasaki vulcan 800 and a honda pcx125,in 2 seasons i havent touched the motorcycle.the scooter is so much more enjoyable.i would love to upgrade to almost any of them
Thanks for your reply. I'm glad that there are motorcycle riders who are not making their decisions only on the basis of "supposed manliness", but rather convenience. One enjoys a scooter, one rides a scooter!
By the way check out my new video about super scooters
ruclips.net/video/E7yYBrx2SgU/видео.html
I had had motorcycles all my life till i rented a scooter in Barca. Never looking back. Will sell my Z750 and get a 250-400cc scooter.
I realised that with my motorcycle I constantly try to go higher gear to quieten the loud engine in lower gears. On my scooter i enjoy a more laid back riding style, twist and go, quiet, nifty-shifty and practical. Bikes just demand a more aggressive riding style. Scooters are non-pretentious
I agree with you, I had a BMW GS 1200 and now I ride a kymco AK 550. I live in a big metropolis and without question it's much more pleasurable to ride the big scooter around town then the big motorcycle. The AK 550 works fine on the motorways as well, reaching over 180 kpm.
Kymco 400 xciting. A first class machine now packed with excellent features and has a lean angle most scooter riders can only dream about
The Honda Forza 300, the Piaggio MP3, and the big Qooder 4 wheeler, are my favorites, wish I could have each 1 mentioned.
Those are amazing picks
Very informative. I’m seriously considering a Burgman 650. I had a six cylinder Goldwing last but I’m aged 65 and it just got to be too heavy at 950 pounds. Something to zip around on would be nice, even an extended ride should be fine on the 650.
Right on! Hope you have a lot of fun riding it.
I've had a Burgman 650 since 2006. I highly recommend it. I can go on the interstate without any problems. It has a top speed of 120MPH although I've never had it above 90MPH.
@@bjbell52 I just bought a 2013 Burgman 650 about a month ago. I've got a V-Strom 1050 and a KLR and the Burger is all I ride anymore 😄
I have owned a few bikes over the years and I have racked up over 200000km on them. I currently have a Kawasaki Voyager 1700 with over 90000kms on the clock. I have a Suzuki Burgman 650 AN Executive scooter with close to 10000kms on the clock. Previously I owned and Yamaha XV1100 on which I clocked up about 100000kms and I also owned for a short time a Piaggio MP3 400. I didn't put many kilometres on that one as I bought it for my wife to learn on and when she didn't I sold it. I feel I have some credentials to talk about both bikes and scooters. In this video you mostly talk about scooters up to about 550cc. I know you say another video will look at the Burgman 650 but I reckon when there is a BMW 600 and 650 as well as the Aprilla 850 referred to by another commenter the 300s and 400s are not what you would call maxi scooters. I know you are looking at bigger than pizza delivery scooters that are still ok for the city commute but will hold their own on the open road but I don't expect to see any Piaggio Vespa GTS on the freeways or highways. For those looking for the 1000cc scooter I think that may be a forlorn hope. In Australia where I live bikes/scooters over 250cc are expensive to register (that is the charges set by the government so you can ride on the roads). The costs include a roadworthy inspection every year (at least in NSW), the registration charge and associated GST and compulsory third party insurance. For example my Suzuki Burgman costs nearly $850 to register each year and my Kawasaki 1700 costs about the same amount - perhaps a little bit more. I have ridden all my bikes on open roads and highways and I can say without a doubt that the Burgman is as good as any sports bike, tourer or cruiser on the open road but the Kawasaki is great for the open road and not much use in stop/start city traffic. At nearly 400kgs wet it is a heavy bike where as the scooter is much lighter and easier to zip around the city. If your main riding is the city, all of the scooters covered here will do the job. If you intend to do some touring and get out on country roads I would suggest nothing under the Gilera 500 - others I don't think will have the power and comfort for a long day's riding. Thanks for posting the video. Enjoy the ride on what ever it is you ride.
Thanks for such a detailed comment. Some valuable info you've got here.
Hi Roger, What state in Australia do you register the Burgman? I thought $800 is a bit excessive considering my 650 V-Strom is less than $400 inc. green slip, pink slip and the actual rego...I was considering trading the strom for the 650 Burgman...but if they cost that much to register....might reconsider.
Regards
Dave (From Sydney NSW)
My Kawasaki Voyager costs $130 to register in NSW + $625 for green slip (QBE)+$23 for Road worthy check. My Suzuki Burgman 650 is kept in Tasmania where they have MAIB (Motor Accident Insurance Board) which provides the CTP insurance as GIO once did in NSW. You are not required to have an annual road worthy inspection but all up to register the Burgman in Tas is about $800. I don't know what it would be in NSW. I am 65 so I think I am in the high risk group even though I have racked up close to 200k/kms and have had no claims either for CTP or comprehensive insurance and I haven't had a traffic infringement in over 10 years. No I'm not a goody two shoes and I did use to commute 200kms/day on my Kawasaki before retiring. Now I am lucky to be a regular weekend warrior.
I have owned both a Yamaha Majesty YP400 and (presently) a Suzuki Burgman Exec. While owning the Majesty I undertook a 640km trip from my place at Plainland (1 hr West of Brisbane, QLD) to a residence at Willawarrin (some 30km NW of Kempsie, NSW) - returning the next day - on the Yamaha Majesty 400. I still maintain that for a trip of that distance, the Majesty was a better choice than the current Burgman Exec would be. Engine size isn't everything - rider comfort counts highly on the longer distances. My fatigue level after a similar journey on the Burgman would exceed such on the Majesty. The rider also remains dryer when riding in wet weather on a Majesty, when compared to a Burgman 650.
Where the Burgman scores over the Majesty, however, is that due to its Horse Power reserve I can tow a 1220cm trailer with the Suzuki.
In fact, I might be more inclined to choose my Moto Guzzi V9 Bobber, for long trips, - excepting for that trailer towing option with the Burg. Both the Suzuki and the Moto Guzzi V9 make about 54HP.
John Klumpp Hi John thanks for your comments comparing the Suzuki 650 Burgman with the Yamaha YP400. I have no experience with the Yamaha but I can say that I have owned a Yamaha XV1100 Cruiser and it was a very good bike. I think the Japanese all make quality bikes/scooters. I've never towed anything with a bike or a car for that matter. I hope you are enjoying whatever you're riding and getting one the road whenever you can. Again thanks for the interest in my comments.
Though technically it's not a scooter but a dual transmission motorcycle I believe the Honda NM4 rules the road. In automatic mode it operates exactly like a scooter without giving away much of the power and beauty of a motorcycle, in fact it reminds me of the bat bike from Batman. Honda totally outdid themselves with that one, good work guys.
Thanks for your suggestion. I will feature it in the episode about super scooters
I think that is very informative. It will help me make an informed choice of scooters.
Oh cmon. I have 2 750s, a 1000 and an 1100 motorcycles, a 150cc trailie and I STILL have a super-scooter. It's ridiculously practical, can carry me my wife and a week's shopping, nippy round town and seems to run on petrol vapour. All I ever do is change the oil. No way would I sell it or not have one. Hardly ever use the car now. Sure it's not for long trips cause you get square-arse from the sit-up-and-beg riding position, but around the city it's a star.
Awesome to hear it from a motorcycle owner.
They are all good in their own way. Guess it's what floats your boat. Sym offer 5 yes 5yr warranty here in UK. Not to be sneezed at.
That quooter is where it's at! Nice...
Nice choice!
The AK550 is the only real option here. Affordable, modern, powerful, light, good brakes. I currently have the Burgman 650 which is better than anything here (powerful / manual & auto gears / electric folding wing mirrors for beating traffic / large storage), but it's damn heavy, the brakes are crap and the wheels are impossible to clean, is looking a bit dated and I need a replacement soon, and perhaps a change as my last 3 bikes have all been Burgmans. Might get that AK.
Go on try a Tmax
@@johnfelton4669 Too late. Had the AK for over a year now. Good points and bad over the Tmax.
You forgot the big boy..scooter's. The burgman 650,and the bmw 650gt.
Yes, those are really nice suggestions.
By the way. They will be featured in the future. I have a plan for a super scooters video ;) subscribe not to miss it!
Only if you live in Europe will you be able to buy the Suzuki 650 Burgman. U.S. Interest in big scooters is nil.
@@garygrasma559 The Suzuki Burgman 650 is available in the US and has been since 2003. www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Scooters.aspx
@@Ronald_Jones_13 The Suzuki Bergman 650 has also been available in 🇦🇺 Australia for a very long as well...
Yamaha TMax DX best one
I bought a new Yamaha Tmax 530 (2017 DX spec) in September 2018, but I have ridden it only 4 times.
Once on the way home from the dealer, once the day after, and then only to the dealer and back when I tried to take it back.
I advise that before you spend 1.4 million Yen (or equivalent) on this bike, that you insist on a test-ride first.
In many respects it is very good: It is smooth; it is quick you ask it to be; it handles very nicely even with a passenger; its low speed handling in traffic and car-parks (parking lots) is easy even with a passenger; its wind protection is quite good.
In just two respects, it is very disappointing (to me personally): The fuel economy is only 2/3 as reasonable as my 2013 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom, meaning the Yamaha only gives me 20-21 kilometres / Litre ridden gently; it makes an awful noise in this rev-range 3,700 - 4,800 RPM, which in Japan corresponds to legal cruising speeds of about 30-60 KPH.
Cager On Two Wheels (a popular bike reviewer from Portugal who reviews bikes in English, too) says it sounds 'aggressive', but in my (and my wife's) opinion, it is unbearable after about 30 minutes.
I am going to try noise-cancelling headphones / ear-plugs and see how that goes.
Just a heads-up to give you advanced notice.
ridden gently
See the videos by Cager On Two Wheels and The Missenden Flyer for detailed reviews of the Yamaha Tmax.
Appreciate the tips and a very detailed comments.
Scooters belong to a type of compact means of transportation and are rarely associated with power and performance. But there is one separate niche of scooters, maxi scooters that provide a level of power and comfort comparable to a motorcycle. Would you ever consider getting one of such rides for yourself?
I own a Jetmax 250 produced by CFMoto. Classified as a motorcycle here in NY (USA) and requiring a motorcycle endorsement. I ride it as much as possible to work or where ever else weather permitting. Considered on the low end of a maxi scoots I can run with the big dogs all day long and have on several motorcycle runs. The wife rides a CFMoto V5 (250 cc) and goes along on some adventures. Happy scootin to all :)
Appreciate you sharing your story! Happy scooting!
It's what they said about the Vespa back when it debuted; "more of a two wheeled car than a motorcycle"
The Maxsym Executive is also a great value.
It''s a good suggestion, I appreciate it.
All of them are realy beauties bit i prefere the AK550 by far from the othes and i wiil explain why. My personal point of view is that Kymco is the best value for money In the first place i was a bit suspisious about their price in all models SYM and KYMCO (Comparing always with the relevant cc of YAMAHA ,HONDA or SUZUKI.BMW in tge other hand she is a beauty as well I t's a German made scoooter But ....i don't know they look a kind of conservative. I am not try to be agresive with other fellow scooter riders and this experess my opinion
That's a fair point of view. Any manufacturer that makes scooters or motorcycles with a good package for a reasonable price deserves a lot of sales and respect.
Kawa J300 is made by Kymco
@@automotiveterritory but of course i just express my personal opoinion
Sure you can, thank you for doing so. And I actually supported your point of view.
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the SUSUKI 650 Bergman. That bike is awesome!
Appreciate the suggestion. The Burgman will be featured in my video about the Super Scooters 600cc +. Stay tuned
@@automotiveterritory I was told when I bought mine that they can do 80 or 90mph if the situation was right. I've had mine up to 120mph. One of the best scooters made. I would definitely buy another if something happened to mine.
Hope nothing happens to yours. 120 mph is fast, , I would say too fast. stay safe!
Yes the 650 Bergman will top out at 115-120, and cruise all day at 75 without even breathing hard.
Crazy speeds for a scooter, awesome and crazy at the same time. Working on the super scooters video already
The best video on Maxi Scooters till date. Thanks a gazillion for this video. 👏👏👏👏👏
Which one of these did you like the most?
@@automotiveterritory I liked Yamaha TMax & Kymco AK550 above all. Forza & Burgman are also good.
Check out this episode ruclips.net/video/O_A0QdOA77Q/видео.html
A couple of new maxis here as well
@@automotiveterritory Sure. Thank you! 🙂
I'm definitely going to wait until the tmac 530 is fifteen years old to import it from Japan to Canada because that's just what the Yamaha scooter I just actually want buy from Japan so badly right now at this moment in time guys
Yes!! I would trade my 2020 Street Glide Special... for a 2020 Maxi Scooter!!
What model would you get?
@@automotiveterritory
The Yahama 560 , or the Suzuki Bergman 650 , or the Kymko 550
I am 6feet and 250lbs and it seems like the bigger bikes would fit me better even though I really dig the Bergman 400 also and the Yahama xmax Iron max
I love everything 🏍️💨's & 🛵💨's I have the little Honda Grom 2014 all stock with just a slip on and I have a Yamaha Zuma 125CC lightly modded extremely fun both bikes are air-cooled both bikes are 125cc and when we race them they're extremely close
& on top of all that full coverage insurance is like $30 per month & 90 mpg even hauling ass. Top speed 58-65mph everything matters on a 125CC uphill, downhill, wind if you're tucked in or not tucked in along with tires you're using 🙄. But these little bikes can smoke most traffic off the start unless they're really trying to take off, then they will smoke u. Lol but they do pretty good in pretty much any type of city 🚦 they will Cruise right along without being tucked in at 55 mph VERY comfortably, I weight about 180lbs 6' with all my gear on when I'm riding
You've brought some good points ;)
Wait... no Honda SilverWing?
Bogdan Paun discontinued
I'd like to see a 1000 CC scooter😎
I actually don't see any manufacturer brave enough to make something like this. Maybe there is some unusual customization show that could pull a project like this off.
The closest thing is Gilera gp 800 / Aprilia srv 850. They are 840cc.
And then you can buy 1000cc cylinder kit for them. (Search on Gilera gp 1000).
Would you like to see a video about super scooters with displacement 600 cc and up?
Yes I would like to see more videos on super scooter's 600 C c's in up
Noted. Will try to come up with one.
Nice BMW c400
I have 155 Yamaha nvx. In the city twist and go is the answer. But on an open road my friends ninja. But really the nvx is more than enough for city commute
Glad to hear about your experience. How much did you get it for?
@@automotiveterritory I live in Malaysia, so currency and tax included is Rm 15 000 = 3700 usd. which is very expensive to us here. But worth it.
Have fun on the bike!
I belong to a scooter club but I really prefer to shift myself so I ride a vstar 650 it isn't any faster than a 650 Bergman but the cushy suspension and bigger wheels are more comfortable on pothole side roads
Thanks for sharing and best of luck with the transition. How do you feel about losing the cargo capacity of the Burgman though?
@@automotiveterritory
Yes - cargo capacity is a big PLUS factor, on the Bergman. Where I live one can purchase soda cans in 24 can or 30 can cartons. The Bergman can carry a carton of 30 PLUS a carton of 24 (total 54 cans) in its under-seat storage. This storage, which might normally take two helmets (or a helmet and your motorcycle jacket) is included at no extra cost. And there is still a helmet hook which is usable with a little cable loop stored on top of the took-kit - for when stuff stored under the seat excludes your helmet. I fastened a topbox on using holes where the passenger backrest attaches, to take stuff that is overflow from the under-seat area.
Most motorcycle sales consider panniers (saddlebags) as an extra-cost option. Ditto, the windscreen. (I once owned a Honda Shadow Bagger, with 'screen - the 'extras' were some $3000+ from my wallet.)
magkano ba ang presyo sa mga maxi bike na ito? ito ba ay chargable o hindi? pls. reply
You forgot the Suzuki Burgman 650;Executive Animal??.This is a close to a street rocket as you can get in a scooter??
Thanks for your comment. I kept that scooter for another video about super scooters. It will be released some time later this year, stay tuned
How do I purchase do you have monthly payments
i have a yamaha xmax my only complaint about its is the compartment runs so hot because its close to the engine and i dont know if a thermal cover even exist for it
Have you checked any bike related forums to see if anyone else is experiencing the same issue?
Very enjoyable to listen to. Very soothing voice. Goodbye
Have a nice day.
BMW by far is the coolest looking. I’ve rode motorcycles for a few years now and I kinda want a moped for the fact that I don’t have to change gears lol
Which of the BMWs did you like the most, the regular or electric one?
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews the 400x for sure! Best styling in my
Opinion
Gotcha. Thanks for sharing
Chaz mopes really? Their are no peddles
Good video!
WHERE IS THE SUZUKI BURGMAN 650 EXECUTIVE???? BY FAR THE BEST!!!
It will be featured in the upcoming episode about super scooters ;)
I'm getting one very soon.It's as close to a street rocket in a scooter as you can get
JUST PICKED MY BRAND NEW ONE LAST WEEK IN PEARL WHITE BEAUTIFUL MACHINE😂👍🏻
No it’s is not. I owned a 2007 burgman exc. and a bmw 650 gt change the weights or the variator and the bmw is way faster. Change the variator your beating a 600 super sport motorcycle. Trust I have done this and I’ve also owned 4 motorcycles including a Kawasaki ninja 1000
OH YES IT IS!!! IF I WANTED TOP END SPEED ID BUY A SPORTS BIKE!!!
i love automatic scooters. had more than 10 of them. piaggio x9 500, 200cc, burgman 400 and 650, yamaha majesty 250, piaggio x8 400, piaggio superhexagon 180cc, honda silverwing 400cc. and now am thinking of the honda silverwing 600. while would really like to have the BMW, gilera, or Tmax, I feel they are way too expensive because basically they will surely get devalued in time.
That's true. Depreciation has been hitting the automotive market like never before.
Tutti cessi..
Hi is the qoodo 400cc engine built by SYM?
Is it coming to Canada
3:48
so you have the vespa and xmax but not the bevely 350 which is one of the best scooters out there..ok
I have a xmax300blue core engine best handling,sudden acceralation,and economy Tmax DNA..
For 300cc just fit two cylinders engine with DCT 6 speed gearbox and not just those CVT
Norman Hughedicko Then it defeats the purpose of it being a scooter. No, keep the CVT...but put in the tein cylinder. That would be great.
Why is Honda NC750D Integra, or Aprilia SRV 850 not included?
Nice suggestions, these two somehow slipped my mind.
Would you like to see a video about super scooters? Your suggestions seem to fit this description
because their more like motor bikes than scooters
Can you explain why a gp800/srv850 is more a motor bike than a maxi scooter?
The power output alone puts these scooters into the motorcycles category, plus they have sportier design and riding positions
QOODER really greate
Thank you 👍👋
Glad you like it!
For long distance rides choose two cylinders max scooters
Why?
@@johnstack5008 Why not?
Space. Comfort. Leg position.
Meep! meep!!..........................Roadrunner
Sym make some really nice scooters like the sym gti 300i(21.3kw)which has more power than the honda(18.5kw) plus it makes a nice 400 and the 465twin tl (29.5kw)
Those are some good suggestions. I will look more into them and possibly use them in my future videos.
I just brought a cruisym 300 few weeks , it's really a nice scooter!!
Thanks for your feedback
And with maxi prices!
Maxi scoots are nice, I used to ride a Vespa 300 switched back to a bike
A Honda nc750x , I liked the Vespa a lot but it not quite enough for the
Wide open highways of Canada, gas tank was to small and with a speed
Limit of 110km it was at its limits, I was going to try t max 750 but the bars
Hit my knees , I thought about the burgman 650 but the dealer offered
A super deal on the Honda.
I would have no issues with a twist and go maxi scoot, and next machine
May well be one.
Hope to hear more of your feedback, when you get one or get more time riding it.
How the f... do You NOT include my BURGY!?
It is too awesome. I'm saving it for the super maxi scooter video ;)
Love my 200. Guys at the shop said I have to surrender my man card. I say, yeah, but I don't surrender my wallet at the gas pump each week. :D
Burn!!! Shots fired!!! ;)
A regular scooter is way more comfertible than any sport bike lol
Better than motorcycles on less than a 100 km ride, however 25% to 40% overpriced. A 750 Honda motorcycle with dual clutch automatic transmission is $7500 in the USA...
Agreed. Any many scooters are heavier with all the extra junk they put on them.
I’m not sure the Tmax gets cruise control in the US.
I'm double checking this now.
It appears, Tmax is not sold in the US at all, but it does have cruise control in Europe.
Great video what bike you would chose?
It's hard to choose. Most of them look amazing, the BMW ones look very similar to small cruiser motorcycles. If I were to choose, those are the ones I'd go for. What about you?
@@automotiveterritory yeah bmw's are good I would go for a kawasaki J300 its cheap and it would be fun with it
Also I still feel that scooters are predominantly used in city commutes and for city riding electric scooters would be the better choice.
@@automotiveterritory true but there is not that much electric scooters now I think better choice for city riding are elctric bikes what do you think?
I actually made a full video dedicated to about electric scooters some time ago. There aren't many electric maxi scooters but there is a lot of choice among regular sized ones. Would you like me to send you a link to that episode?
Nowdays 2021, Tricity 300
Seriously? Nothing about the Burgman 650? The market leader..they even had an MP 3 .. I had one of those...but traded it in for my Burgman 650..
Good day, John! The Burgman will be featured in another video about super scooters with displacements 600+ only.
What's wrong with the contraction mph?
@@automotiveterritory normally its voiced.. miles per hour.. NEVER.. mph.. unless it's a robot .. like a GPS.. that says turn right on RTE 75.. instead of route 75..too literal
I mention the speed metrics in my videos on multiple occasions, so would you rather wait for me to tell miles per hour every time than use the contraction?
Yes...
They always forget the 650 Bergman ,I have the executive model and is simply the best !
Awesome. How much did you get it for?
Got it in a deal , and very much like it so comfortable and smooth to ride .not a ninja by no means .but for in and out of traffic a pleasure to ride
Check out this video about super scooters ruclips.net/video/E7yYBrx2SgU/видео.html
The Burgman is there.
I plan on getting a 650 next year, I currently have a 400 and 200 burgman.
you shoulld have included Quadro qv3 the highest power to weight ratio tricycle !
Burgman 650 is the top of the line when it comes to Scooter designs with motorcycle output!
I will be featuring this scooter in the upcoming video about super scooters
@@automotiveterritory Great, looking forward to that.
Top of the line are the Honda Integra 750 S, the X-ADV and the BMW C650 Sport and GT. The Honda Integra has the biggest wheels and is at 100kph in about 5 seconds. It's the fastest of them all and when you put the sidebags and the big topcase on, it's one of the most practical too 👌
Disappointed owner of a two-year-old but virtually unused Tmax 530 DX (bought Sep 2018) wants a QUIET exhaust for it.
I hate the noise so much, I have done only 1,000 kilometres / 620 miles in two years.
Please help.
Must actually BE quiet, and not merely called "silent sports" etc.
Thank you.
I'm gonna guess the Vespas Trac control doesn't activate often
Why do you think so?
Who is a burger lover? Burger lovers dont need a car, they can rather buy the suzuki burgmab
I love my Burgmans, I have a 200 & 400. Both are very comfortable to ride.
@@rico-989 okokok
You forgot the piaggio beverly 350 sporttouring!!!
I'll check your suggestion out for sure.
Kymco Xciting 400i, Sym, Honda etc missing...
I only had 10 spots, so had to choose the best options in my opinion.
@@automotiveterritory Of course, except Vespa in my opinion. It is not a Maxi Scooter! 😁
I could agree with that. I also struggled with the decision to feature it, but the long history of the scooter convinced me to give it a chance
Kawasaki J300 and Qooder all made in Taiwan actually!
No Piaggio Beverly? Really???
The most honest humble economic cheap repaired scooter of all scooters is not in the list?! Shame of you! :)
My bad, I guess. Will add this scooter to my radar for the future videos
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Wow, I thought Harley Davidson Motorcycles were expensive, check out these scooters, lol.
Holly Dabisons do be aspensive, bruh.
So, amma git me a scoota some tam.
Yamaha Tmax build in europe now (France) so workmanship is high so the price is high! BMW big price it is on his nature! so Suzuki Burgman all made in Japan it is like made in Germany, pricey but what a hell of a scooter equipment!
OK guys, think of it this way, you buy a basic bike, then you want to turn it into a bagger/dresser, think of the cost for a full fairing, the storage/luggage, it mounts up.
A scooter, nee a maxi-scooter already has that in the price and the centre stand isn't a 300$ option, that's if, your model of motorcycle even offers one.
{Forgot to ask...Is Vetter still in business? They had some real beautiful full fairings and well thought out hard-bags.}
I can't believe they are $5,000 and up now
Fully-fledged.
I ride a Honda CTX 700 dct, automatic motorcycle. You can ride a motorcycle and not have to shift gears.
Awesome. How long have you had it for?
@@automotiveterritory I bought it brand new in 2018. I can’t wait until I get it out of storage in April.
Amazing you must also specify their price
It's listing all the price information that I could find.
The price for each one appeared on the right upper corner ..... all except one
Thanks for your help, Alfonso
Awesome
Which of these did you like the most?
@@automotiveterritory Kawasaki J300
@@automotiveterritory Shall Buy Kawasaki J300 If It Is Available In India in Future
Can't understand a word that is being said. What are you doing with the microphone or is it the accent?
These maxi scooters are so sexy and masculine. The scooters we have in India all have flat footboards that, in my opinion, is so feminine (which isn't a bad thing; just not meant for men).
These bigger scooters are completely unavailable in India?
I have t max 530 😍👍
32HP engine is NOT powerful, even for a 400. Coupled with that, an insane amount of weight makes the Qooder look like a slug. The AK550 by comparison has 53HP and nearly 100kg lighter. The only good thing about the Qooder is driving in really bad weather. That's the only reason I would look at this "bike". They don't sell it in the UK though it seems.
Please try the Honda Forza 300 I think you might change your mind
beverly 350 33 hp 330cc engine faster than the 400s
I have a Suzuki burgman 400 and a burgman 200, both are very comfortable. Next year I plan on getting a used burgman 650 executive. $11,000 US is a bit expensive for a brand new 650 for me
If you have checked, how much do used ones go for?
@@automotiveterritory I seen a nice 2015 burgman 650 with 7,000 miles for $5,500
Best of luck buying that 650! Ride on!
Mute robo voice.
You may do with the video whatever you wish, but if you listened closely, you'd know t hat it's not a robo voice.
Ak550 the best
I want a scooter with a Hayabusa engine in it, now that would be cool. Cheers
Would it still qualify for the name "scooter"?
Is this a robot channel?
Actually have no idea what you mean.
When I get the cash I want to buy myself a brand new Suzuki Burgman 650cc Executive scooter for myself and then modify the stink out of it and then add some NOS
Ok good.😎
Could you do a video on 3 & 4 wheeled maxi scooters
I will try, thanks!
No 👎 🤭
If it doesn't have 100bhp minimum you can't say "motorbike power"
Are these official standards for a motorbike? 100bhp?
QOODER 1 sztuka 4x4
Może być uzywane w dobrym stanie lub Nowe
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Gilera nexus 500???
I'll check this one out.
You left out the Suzuki 650 Burgman.
I know, sometimes this happens.
The scooter will be featured in the upcoming episode about super scooters. Stay tuned
If launched in India, their price will be very high...
You're probably right on this one.
The new Suzuki is the best and it's $7,500
How about sym
Which model?
Piaggio Vespa GTS 278cc. Maxi scooter??
Hi, Eric. I believe, I attempted to explain my choice of Vespa in the narration. Couldn't leave out the classic scooter
Where has Burgman 650 gone???
What do you mean?
@@automotiveterritory I saw 2020 Suzuki catalog and there was no Burgman 650. 400 was the biggest. (Europe, Poland).
Hopefully they are just planning to release a new version and that's why the catalogues won't feature the old one for now
You forgot the SYM 600
Hi there. It was in my preliminary list, but u chose to feature other models instead. Which bike from the video would you replace with a Sym?
And cruisym and gts sport 300 abs s& s. Exelente choices in mid sized scooters !
ruclips.net/p/PLcrVaYp-xS9sPrXK95KqcasulbH--LTqO
You forgot thé honda x-adv 750cc its the best for me
Oh, what a nice suggestion.
Saving it for the episode about super maxi scooters. Subscribe to my channel not to miss it ! :)
no computer voices. goodbye
You are correct, there are no computer voices on my channel. Good bye.